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Posted: 9/8/2017 6:23:09 AM EST
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrMitch:
I know the 4P flash hider is the clone king, any use of the new Closed tine flash hider on CQBR's? I'm not interested in over paying and risking a fake on a 4P and prefer the look and function of a closed flash hider. Thanks guys! CD |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 9:38:05 AM EST
[Last Edit: Mister_Donut]
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Consider a 3P instead. CD Eventually he will snap, and somehow justify it in his mind that $400 is money well spent on a 4 prong. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 10:04:07 AM EST
[#3]
fuck HP printers.
shit has been telling me there was a jam all damn day when the thing is running fine, it was just being a lazy asshole and didnt want to print. 30rds of 5.56 from the mk18 pistol should clear a jam right? 
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Posted: 9/8/2017 10:06:33 AM EST
[#4]
For those that have recently bought Brownells uppers, have you had any issues with the takedown pins/holes? I've tried two lower receivers this morning, different brands, one with enhanced takedown pins and one with plain-jane BCM pins and it feels like I'm going to need a hammer to get them in. I've had tight pins on new receivers before, but nothing that I couldn't get in by hand.
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Posted: 9/8/2017 10:48:03 AM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jormungandr:
fuck HP printers. shit has been telling me there was a jam all damn day when the thing is running fine, it was just being a lazy asshole and didnt want to print. 30rds of 5.56 from the mk18 pistol should clear a jam right? https://i.imgur.com/Dzo19i6.jpg 
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Posted: 9/8/2017 11:06:12 AM EST
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I believe the DD uppers are known for being tight and they sent me some slightly undersize pins for one I had that was super tight in the past free of charge...
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Posted: 9/8/2017 11:56:37 AM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mister_Donut:
You know the OCD get to him eventually. It will start off as a thought in the back of his head after he buys the 3 prong. Then it will start to gnaw at him and he'll start thinking if I sell my 3 prong, it's only a bit more to get a 4 prong. He'll start staying up every night scouring EE and ebay for the right one, losing hours of sleep trying to find that gem. Eventually he will snap, and somehow justify it in his mind that $400 is money well spent on a 4 prong.  Funny that you described most of us on here.
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:15:04 PM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jormungandr:
fuck HP printers. shit has been telling me there was a jam all damn day when the thing is running fine, it was just being a lazy asshole and didnt want to print. 30rds of 5.56 from the mk18 pistol should clear a jam right? https://i.imgur.com/Dzo19i6.jpg 
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Posted: 9/8/2017 12:25:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: Mister_Donut]
[#9]
After a little shopping, a few parts here, a few parts there, some stuff from Fleabay, from the local EEs, and my spare parts box.........
(ignore the Smith flash hider and 2 rib panel, they were for something else) 
And I ended with something that I think looks ok? 
Lol, before someone gives me grief for the fake suppressor and fake ATPIAL, I can explain. Suppressors are prohibited in Canada, hence the fake, and only for pics. The ATPIAL, well, there aren’t any night events where I live, so it would be silly to spend about $2,000 (that’s about how much they go for here if you can find one) on an ornament I won’t use, not to mention getting NVGs (which cost God knows how much) I also will not likely use. I picked up the DD URG used off one of the local EEs, got an okay deal on it I think, but how much grief will I get for keeping the DD upper? Should I swap the parts over to a Colt upper or is this acceptable? Also, regarding the light, I checked and I know it’s not clone correct, but I think it was understood that this is “close enough” |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:19:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: daojag]
[#10]
Work In Progress Friday:
Those 1.2" of heresy will be chopped when my NT4 gets out of jail in a few months  . Brake for Sandman-S is sadly about .2" too close to the RIS II to get the can on.
Now I just need to decide if I can make the CQBR work with either of those 2 cans, or start saving up for an RC/RC2. First world problems . . . . |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:49:52 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Looks good Donut. I would ditch the fake PEQ and can tho. Just excess dead weight. AND, I think you should swap out that DD upper for a Colt. If for no other reason than to get rid of that god awful faux paint wear the previous owner left on it.  
Other that it looks good bro  |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 1:55:10 PM EST
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrMitch:
I know the 4P flash hider is the clone king, any use of the new Closed tine flash hider on CQBR's? I'm not interested in over paying and risking a fake on a 4P and prefer the look and function of a closed flash hider. Thanks guys! |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 2:06:13 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mister_Donut:
Yup, I definitely don't shoot with the fake can and PEQ on there, just for photos. Now, how kosher is a Colt upper with a square forge mark? There's one on the local EE for $300 CAD, complete upper minus the BCG, but I have a feeling it's one of those Colt Expanse uppers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mister_Donut:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Looks good Donut. I would ditch the fake PEQ and can tho. Just excess dead weight. AND, I think you should swap out that DD upper for a Colt. If for no other reason than to get rid of that god awful faux paint wear the previous owner left on it.
Other that it looks good bro So that one is good to go |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 2:07:53 PM EST
[#15]
Say no to fake paint wear.
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Posted: 9/8/2017 2:11:00 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
Say no to fake paint wear. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 2:11:19 PM EST
[Last Edit: NickOTime]
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mister_Donut:
Yup, I definitely don't shoot with the fake can and PEQ on there, just for photos. Now, how kosher is a Colt upper with a square forge mark? There's one on the local EE for $300 CAD, complete upper minus the BCG, but I have a feeling it's one of those Colt Expanse uppers. Just trying to point out a DD upper is technically clone correct(if you want to save some coin) but I'm not sure if I'm just full of b/s on this matter or not. Also not a fan of the DD laser engraved logo either but nothing a little Krylon can't hide. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 2:11:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: Mister_Donut]
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Any Colt upper is fine. All the big forgers have made military uppers for colt. Brass & aluminum enterprises, Cerro forge, Anchor Harvey, Alcoa etc. Some of those are more common on Colt A2 uppers, the main 2 I see for the M4 and M4A1 are Colt/Cerro (keyhole) and Colt/square (Brass&Alum) So that one is good to go |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 2:30:58 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NickOTime:
I agree with milspec about the uppers fake wear looking pretty terrible. However iirc didn't DD send out complete mk18 uppers to some units/armorers or am I just remembering incorrectly? Just trying to point out a DD upper is technically clone correct(if you want to save some coin) but I'm not sure if I'm just full of b/s on this matter or not. Also not a fan of the DD laser engraved logo either but nothing a little Krylon can't hide. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NickOTime:
Originally Posted By Mister_Donut:
Yup, I definitely don't shoot with the fake can and PEQ on there, just for photos. Now, how kosher is a Colt upper with a square forge mark? There's one on the local EE for $300 CAD, complete upper minus the BCG, but I have a feeling it's one of those Colt Expanse uppers. Just trying to point out a DD upper is technically clone correct(if you want to save some coin) but I'm not sure if I'm just full of b/s on this matter or not. Also not a fan of the DD laser engraved logo either but nothing a little Krylon can't hide.
From what I remember, in the threads early days there was a rumor that both DD and Colt 10.3 barrels were in use. I don't remember ever seeing any photographic evidence tho except of the CRANE chopped Colt 10.3. And I don't remember anything about DD receivers personally |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 2:34:56 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChrisWMT:
Is the fake PEQ made by Element? |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 2:36:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: NickOTime]
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Are you trying to fluster ECPrevatte? Cause this is exactly how you fluster ECPrevatte.
From what I remember, in the threads early days there was a rumor that both DD and Colt 10.3 barrels were in use. I don't remember ever seeing any photographic evidence tho except of the CRANE chopped Colt 10.3. And I don't remember anything about DD receivers personally Lol thanks for setting me straight. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 2:39:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: brodband8]
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Posted: 9/8/2017 2:40:13 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NickOTime:
See my memory is shit. I vaguely remembered it being a discusdion point but not the outcome. Lol thanks for setting me straight. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NickOTime:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Are you trying to fluster ECPrevatte? Cause this is exactly how you fluster ECPrevatte.
From what I remember, in the threads early days there was a rumor that both DD and Colt 10.3 barrels were in use. I don't remember ever seeing any photographic evidence tho except of the CRANE chopped Colt 10.3. And I don't remember anything about DD receivers personally Lol thanks for setting me straight.
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Posted: 9/8/2017 2:49:11 PM EST
[#25]
Repaint it for sure.
It'll look better when it wears in real spots. 
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Posted: 9/8/2017 3:11:34 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By daojag:
For those that have recently bought Brownells uppers, have you had any issues with the takedown pins/holes? I've tried two lower receivers this morning, different brands, one with enhanced takedown pins and one with plain-jane BCM pins and it feels like I'm going to need a hammer to get them in. I've had tight pins on new receivers before, but nothing that I couldn't get in by hand. Donut: Faux paint wear aside, that CQBR looks great. I'd probably just slap some fresh paint on the upper and maybe the lower as well, but leave the RIS II in proper FDE form. Then go shoot and let it wear naturally. If you strip it back to black, you'll have that giant Mk18 laser etched logo to contend with. I'm not sure those can be stripped completely, so I'd probably just repaint it if you're going to keep the upper receiver. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 3:20:22 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jormungandr:
fuck HP printers. shit has been telling me there was a jam all damn day when the thing is running fine, it was just being a lazy asshole and didnt want to print. 30rds of 5.56 from the mk18 pistol should clear a jam right? https://i.imgur.com/Dzo19i6.jpg |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 3:36:57 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8:
I like the varying colors to this gun but I have to agree paint it and let it wear on its own. I will admit though it's a pretty neat setup, especially if some of the other parts were real but I understand your situation so it will likely have to do. It shows wear in all the wrong places as is. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8:
I like the varying colors to this gun but I have to agree paint it and let it wear on its own. I will admit though it's a pretty neat setup, especially if some of the other parts were real but I understand your situation so it will likely have to do. It shows wear in all the wrong places as is. Originally Posted By krdt:
Donut: Faux paint wear aside, that CQBR looks great. I'd probably just slap some fresh paint on the upper and maybe the lower as well, but leave the RIS II in proper FDE form. Then go shoot and let it wear naturally. If you strip it back to black, you'll have that giant Mk18 laser etched logo to contend with. I'm not sure those can be stripped completely, so I'd probably just repaint it if you're going to keep the upper receiver. Rattlecan project this weekend! Also, just bought a previously enjoyed and slightly blemished LE6920 lower so whenever it shows up, I’ll rattle can that too. And I’ll be careful to mask off or remove the RIS II before painting. I kind of like the color it is now. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 3:40:29 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By daojag:
For those that have recently bought Brownells uppers, have you had any issues with the takedown pins/holes? I've tried two lower receivers this morning, different brands, one with enhanced takedown pins and one with plain-jane BCM pins and it feels like I'm going to need a hammer to get them in. I've had tight pins on new receivers before, but nothing that I couldn't get in by hand. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 4:33:04 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By purevl2:
Pinned MK12. The RIGHT way.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 5:28:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: krdt]
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mister_Donut:
Yeah, good point, if I strip the paint, the DD markings will appear, the 5.56 is already showing as it is. If it’s got fresh paint on it, then at least it will make it a bit harder to tell if it’s a DD or Colt. This one has the key hole Cerro forge mark on it, but no C. The other one I saw on EE as the C on it next to a square. I think I’ll just paint it and leave it as is rather than tearing it all down and swapping parts over a forge mark and a C. Rattlecan project this weekend! Also, just bought a previously enjoyed and slightly blemished LE6920 lower so whenever it shows up, I’ll rattle can that too. And I’ll be careful to mask off or remove the RIS II before painting. I kind of like the color it is now. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 6:03:39 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mister_Donut:
After a little shopping, a few parts here, a few parts there, some stuff from Fleabay, from the local EEs, and my spare parts box......... snip
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Posted: 9/8/2017 6:42:00 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mister_Donut:
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Posted: 9/8/2017 7:37:00 PM EST
[#35]
is it just me or is there a simplistic beauty in an irons only mk18?
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Posted: 9/8/2017 7:53:46 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By daojag:
For those that have recently bought Brownells uppers, have you had any issues with the takedown pins/holes? I've tried two lower receivers this morning, different brands, one with enhanced takedown pins and one with plain-jane BCM pins and it feels like I'm going to need a hammer to get them in. I've had tight pins on new receivers before, but nothing that I couldn't get in by hand. On my Colt lower I can't get the pins in or out without a hammer and punch. I'm hoping they loosen up a bit. 
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Posted: 9/8/2017 7:57:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CrawdadsRevenge:
Mine is extremely tight as well. On my Colt lower I can't get the pins in or out without a hammer and punch. I'm hoping they loosen up a bit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CrawdadsRevenge:
Originally Posted By daojag:
For those that have recently bought Brownells uppers, have you had any issues with the takedown pins/holes? I've tried two lower receivers this morning, different brands, one with enhanced takedown pins and one with plain-jane BCM pins and it feels like I'm going to need a hammer to get them in. I've had tight pins on new receivers before, but nothing that I couldn't get in by hand. On my Colt lower I can't get the pins in or out without a hammer and punch. I'm hoping they loosen up a bit. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 8:10:21 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shogek:
Personally I don't see that as a problem, tight pins are better than a sloppy fit in my opinion! |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 8:11:47 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CrawdadsRevenge:
Mine is extremely tight as well. On my Colt lower I can't get the pins in or out without a hammer and punch. I'm hoping they loosen up a bit. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CrawdadsRevenge:
Originally Posted By daojag:
For those that have recently bought Brownells uppers, have you had any issues with the takedown pins/holes? I've tried two lower receivers this morning, different brands, one with enhanced takedown pins and one with plain-jane BCM pins and it feels like I'm going to need a hammer to get them in. I've had tight pins on new receivers before, but nothing that I couldn't get in by hand. On my Colt lower I can't get the pins in or out without a hammer and punch. I'm hoping they loosen up a bit. |
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Posted: 9/8/2017 11:07:31 PM EST
[#40]
DD upper was supposed to be here today...FedEx says they delivered it, when my wife was home, but it's not here.
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Posted: 9/8/2017 11:27:45 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnySasaki20:
God damn that thing is aids, lol. I was sort of going for this look: 
Or this one: 
Anyway. It still needs a lot of work :) |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 12:11:48 AM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrMitch:
I know the 4P flash hider is the clone king, any use of the new Closed tine flash hider on CQBR's? I'm not interested in over paying and risking a fake on a 4P and prefer the look and function of a closed flash hider. Thanks guys! |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 12:15:57 AM EST
[Last Edit: brodband8]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
I've never seen anyone try to pass a copy off for a real one. The person who made them was very open about it. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 1:52:44 AM EST
[#44]
Fake 4Ps are cancer and plenty of people selling them as 2nd and 3rd owners not knowing that they have replicas vs real ones.
If you can't afford a real one for $250 then you shouldn't be cloning. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 2:27:49 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mister_Donut:
Lol, yeah, it's definitely a hodge podge of parts sourced from lots of different places, which have probably exchanged hands more than a meth eating crackwhore. |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 9:24:45 AM EST
[#46]
Took some better pictures, still not great, but better.....
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Posted: 9/9/2017 9:24:51 AM EST
[Last Edit: Mister_Donut]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnySasaki20:
By aids, I meant because of the fake la-5, fake nt4, and fake paint wear. As for the fake supressor, lol, I would definitely spring for a real one if I could, but those are prohib in Canada. I'll keep my eye out for a SF4P because at least that way, I can spin on a Flash Warden or a supressor trainer from Surefire. At least those are legal here. Anyway, the fake stuff was just for photos, I wouldn't shoot with those things on it. The paint, well, it was used and came that way. I've followed the suggestions of othere here and have a rattle can of Krylon ready :) |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 10:02:30 AM EST
[Last Edit: Mister_Donut]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
One thing to keep in mind if you're going to use a pattern - like the tried and true laundry bag - is that you'll need to paint the pattern with the upper and lower assembled together to have it match up. Otherwise, if it's a solid color or you want that "assembled from spare parts in the armory" look, then it doesn't matter. Also, painting with them assembled makes for a lot less masking work. 
Anyway, I'll probably give the upper a fresh coat of paint jist to cover up the DD markings. And as many have suggested, let it wear naturally. When the other lower shows up, I may paint that too. Kind of exciting, never painted my guns before. Painting our rifles at work is a huge no-no and I can't imagine how much shit I'd get into if I tried, lol! |
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Posted: 9/9/2017 12:17:19 PM EST
[#49]
Drop the fake can and laser in the trash, does nothing but make your gun heavier and pics look dumber. Makes it look like an airsoft toy instead of a nice, legit rifle.
Replace the DD billboard upper with any mil-spec forged M4 upper. Don't you have easy access to Diemaco stuff up there? That'd be perfect and badass. Would also take care of the gay fake paint all at once. 
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Posted: 9/9/2017 12:37:00 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Drop the fake can and laser in the trash, does nothing but make your gun heavier and pics look dumber. Makes it look like an airsoft toy instead of a nice, legit rifle. Replace the DD billboard upper with any mil-spec forged M4 upper. Don't you have easy access to Diemaco stuff up there? That'd be perfect and badass. Would also take care of the gay fake paint all at once. https://i.imgur.com/JwmDFbU.jpg 
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