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Posted: 8/29/2019 3:06:13 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By JohnStoner:
Like the CTR, but Sopmod balances just a little better

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don't know what it is but the CTR looks way better, and i love my sopmod stocks don't get me wrong

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NotAnOper8r Joined Mar 2019 Posts 63 EE 100% (6) TX, USA	Posted: 8/29/2019 3:33:45 PM EDT [#2] I always think the same. The CTR looks great on an URGI but then I use one of my CTRs and remember why it's not on my URGI

Stillnothere Member Joined Jun 2013 Posts 281 EE 100% (2) AFG	Posted: 8/29/2019 11:42:17 PM EDT [#3] My humble submission.

FreefallRet Old Paratrooper Joined Mar 2002 Posts 46447 EE 100% (185) USA	Posted: 8/30/2019 1:34:46 AM EDT [#4] Quote History Originally Posted By airmandaniel: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/355044/rifle-1072058.jpg My humble submission. View Quote Where is the MK16 rail?
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Posted: 8/30/2019 11:47:26 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Where is the MK16 rail?

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Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:

Originally Posted By airmandaniel:
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My humble submission.

Where is the MK16 rail?

Is there a single URG-I component on that upper?

FreefallRet Old Paratrooper Joined Mar 2002 Posts 46450 EE 100% (185) USA	Posted: 8/30/2019 1:51:37 PM EDT [Last Edit: FreefallRet] [#6] Quote History Originally Posted By pezboytate: Is there a single URG-I component on that upper? View Quote Doesn't look like it. More like URG-I inspired
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Posted: 8/30/2019 5:21:01 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Doesn't look like it.

More like URG-I inspired

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Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:

Originally Posted By pezboytate:

Is there a single URG-I component on that upper?

Doesn't look like it.

More like URG-I inspired

Mostly inspired. I decided to take mine in a slightly different direction.

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Posted: 8/30/2019 5:35:53 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By airmandaniel:
Mostly inspired. I decided to take mine in a slightly different direction.

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Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:

Originally Posted By pezboytate:

Is there a single URG-I component on that upper?

Doesn't look like it.

More like URG-I inspired

Mostly inspired. I decided to take mine in a slightly different direction.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/The-Official-Geissele-Picture-Thread/118-693440/?page=1

pweasenosteppy Closer to Acceleration Joined Jul 2018 Posts 1887 EE 100% (1) NH, USA	Posted: 8/30/2019 7:00:43 PM EDT [#9] Quote History Originally Posted By airmandaniel: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/355044/rifle-1072058.jpg My humble submission. View Quote How's that optic treating you?
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ArmyPilot12 GOB Joined Dec 2012 Posts 4242 EE 100% (16) TX, USA	Posted: 8/30/2019 7:17:16 PM EDT [#10] Damn, the mothership (Brownells not G) is running $500 off clone uppers if anybody is looking. G URG-I upper sale @ Brownells
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Posted: 8/30/2019 7:46:15 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By pweasenosteppy:

How's that optic treating you?

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I'm actually liking it quite a bit, it's my first real variable of its type. It's got the horseshoe reticle so its pretty easy and intuitive to use. Not cheap, but was cheaper than my Elcan SpectreDR. I just need to find a good range where I can stretch it out to its full capabilities

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Posted: 8/31/2019 12:41:25 PM EDT

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I’m just curious, is there any 100% proof that the URGI is being issued and used in combat? Or at least the 14.5” CHF with Midlength gas?

Based on the Crane test, it seems to me like the increased reliability and durability of the barrel and gas system would be foolish to discard because of the rail, especially because they could just replace the MK16 rails with stronger predecessors. Unless they found out something negative about the Midlength gas system that didn’t manifest in the Crane test?

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Posted: 8/31/2019 12:50:57 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By FlyingMailman:
I’m just curious, is there any 100% proof that the URGI is being issued and used in combat? Or at least the 14.5” CHF with Midlength gas?

Based on the Crane test, it seems to me like the increased reliability and durability of the barrel and gas system would be foolish to discard because of the rail, especially because they could just replace the MK16 rails with stronger predecessors. Unless they found out something negative about the Midlength gas system that didn’t manifest in the Crane test?

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Posted: 8/31/2019 12:57:57 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By FlyingMailman:
I’m just curious, is there any 100% proof that the URGI is being issued and used in combat? Or at least the 14.5” CHF with Midlength gas?

Based on the Crane test, it seems to me like the increased reliability and durability of the barrel and gas system would be foolish to discard because of the rail, especially because they could just replace the MK16 rails with stronger predecessors. Unless they found out something negative about the Midlength gas system that didn’t manifest in the Crane test?

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USASOC is issuing them now.

The midlength barrel isn't really compatible with the RIS II. It can work but isn't designed for it.

stoner63a Clinging to my God and Guns Joined Aug 2003 Posts 19380 EE 100% (192) FL, USA	Posted: 8/31/2019 5:35:18 PM EDT [#15] Quote History Originally Posted By ArmyPilot12: Damn, the mothership (Brownells not G) is running $500 off clone uppers if anybody is looking. G URG-I upper sale @ Brownells View Quote Clone don't come with Wonka Golden Ticket anymore?
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FDEinAZ Joined May 2016 Posts 293 EE 100% (148) AZ, USA	Posted: 8/31/2019 6:06:55 PM EDT [#16] Quote History Originally Posted By ArmyPilot12: Damn, the mothership (Brownells not G) is running $500 off clone uppers if anybody is looking. G URG-I upper sale @ Brownells View Quote VFC gets another $110 off $900 and Active Junky is 8% right now. Just ordered a complete 10.3” to compliment my 14.5” clone.

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Posted: 8/31/2019 6:31:42 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By FDEinAZ:

VFC gets another $110 off $900 and Active Junky is 8% right now. Just ordered a complete 10.3” to compliment my 14.5” clone.

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Does the upper from Brownells come with the Super 42 buffer & spring? Not bad at $869 plus another 8% with AJ discount.
G has them for $999 plus you get a SSA & Super 42 with H3 buffer. Which is a better buy?

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Posted: 8/31/2019 8:29:18 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By FONTY:

Does the upper from Brownells come with the Super 42 buffer & spring? Not bad at $869 plus another 8% with AJ discount.
G has them for $999 plus you get a SSA & Super 42 with H3 buffer. Which is a better buy?

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Not sure my 14.5” clone was bought direct from G a while ago so this is my first URGI from Brownells. Got the AJ confirmation and for $800 to my door either way I’m happy with it.

As to which is a better buy guess that depends but prob pretty close if you include the other stuff. I have a pistol lower already built just sitting in my safe so I didn’t need anything else anyway.

Edit: one of the Q&A questions on B’s site says it does come with the super 42 and buffer.

duke23433 Member Joined Aug 2014 Posts 6026 EE 100% (42) NC, USA	Posted: 8/31/2019 8:52:03 PM EDT [Last Edit: duke23433] [#19] Quote History Originally Posted By ArmyPilot12: Damn, the mothership (Brownells not G) is running $500 off clone uppers if anybody is looking. G URG-I upper sale @ Brownells View Quote Wow that's a good deal kicking myself for buying from G over the 4th. Guess I got a free trigger with mine though so can't complain too much
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brx123 Joined Jan 2018 Posts 518 EE 0% (0) PA, USA	Posted: 9/1/2019 12:54:43 AM EDT [#20] I picked up a 10.3 urgi from brownells and it shipped with an H3

-KentuckyWindage- Bluegrass State of Mind Joined Dec 2018 Posts 817 EE 100% (125) KY, USA	Posted: 9/1/2019 10:10:42 AM EDT [#21] Looks like maybe a MK16 rail in the back? Attached File

dday_1944 Joined Jul 2019 Posts 69 EE 100% (21) FL, USA	Posted: 9/1/2019 10:36:30 AM EDT [#22] There’s a couple with MK16 rails. The biggest badass is the older guy in the center of the pic with no headgear and the old M4 in his left hand.

TBone556 Joined Dec 2015 Posts 641 EE 100% (5) TX, USA	Posted: 9/1/2019 10:59:01 AM EDT [#23] Quote History Originally Posted By dday_1944: There’s a couple with MK16 rails. The biggest badass is the older guy in the center of the pic with no headgear and the old M4 in his left hand. View Quote Is that general miller in the front?

BNW Joined Mar 2018 Posts 476 EE 100% (2) MO, USA	Posted: 9/1/2019 11:11:32 AM EDT [#24] Quote History Originally Posted By TBone556: Is that general miller in the front? View Quote Looks like a URX 4 in there too. Cool That's a hell of deal at Brownells

dday_1944 Joined Jul 2019 Posts 70 EE 100% (21) FL, USA	Posted: 9/1/2019 11:44:23 AM EDT [Last Edit: dday_1944] [#25] Quote History Originally Posted By TBone556: Is that general miller in the front? View Quote Yes, that’s Scott Miller

Combat_Diver Never Home Joined Jan 2003 Posts 9840 EE 100% (87) AFG	Posted: 9/1/2019 11:58:50 AM EDT [#26] Quote History Originally Posted By dday_1944: Yes, that’s Scott Miller View Quote Too bad you don't see his right hip and his M1911A1 CD
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dday_1944 Joined Jul 2019 Posts 71 EE 100% (21) FL, USA	Posted: 9/1/2019 12:39:34 PM EDT [#28] Quote History Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Too bad you don't see his right hip and his M1911A1 CD View Quote Yep - when he became a GO he officially had his “unit” issued 1911 registered as his GO sidearm.

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jwramp Joined Oct 2011 Posts 181 EE 100% (4) PA, USA	Posted: 9/2/2019 1:56:56 PM EDT [Last Edit: jwramp] [#30] Assuming everyone got the email about full URGI guns from G$ - looks like a pretty decent price to me. https://geissele.com/super-duty-urg-i-14-5.html EDIT: and by decent price I meant the $500 off they had over labor day...

EHilderbrand Domari Nolo Joined May 2003 Posts 7778 EE 100% (33) PA, USA	Posted: 9/2/2019 7:03:45 PM EDT [#31] Not a clone, but has a 9.3" rail and NSN ACH, which does suck with a suppressor.
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Dunderway Member Joined Aug 2013 Posts 12622 EE 0% (0) USA	Posted: 9/2/2019 7:48:02 PM EDT [#32] Quote History Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Too bad you don't see his right hip and his M1911A1 CD View Quote I had to find it. Sorry to derail the thread.

tactical_dude Joined Mar 2009 Posts 1338 EE 100% (122) USA	Posted: 9/2/2019 8:43:42 PM EDT [#33] Quote History Originally Posted By jwramp: Assuming everyone got the email about full URGI guns from G$ - looks like a pretty decent price to me. https://geissele.com/super-duty-urg-i-14-5.html View Quote Has the wrong flash hider, upper, and bcg for a full clone. But if you dont care about being clone correct great URG.

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Posted: 9/2/2019 9:50:06 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By bwhited:
Has the wrong flash hider, upper, and bcg for a full clone. But if you dont care about being clone correct great URG.

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Originally Posted By jwramp:
Assuming everyone got the email about full URGI guns from G$ - looks like a pretty decent price to me.

https://geissele.com/super-duty-urg-i-14-5.html

Has the wrong flash hider, upper, and bcg for a full clone. But if you dont care about being clone correct great URG.

The flash hider is a weird choice. Pretty sure the 215A is for the older Legacy suppressors.

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oldbrowndog Member Joined Jun 2015 Posts 372 EE 100% (149) VA, USA	Posted: 9/2/2019 9:59:01 PM EDT [#35] Quote History Originally Posted By StevieJ309: The flash hider is a weird choice. Pretty sure the 215A is for the older Legacy suppressors. View Quote Picture looks like it's a standard 4 prong

tactical_dude Joined Mar 2009 Posts 1342 EE 100% (122) USA	Posted: 9/2/2019 10:03:07 PM EDT [Last Edit: tactical_dude] [#36] Quote History Originally Posted By oldbrowndog: Picture looks like it's a standard 4 prong View Quote Description says: "MUZZLE DEVICE SureFire, FH556-215A"

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Posted: 9/2/2019 10:23:04 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By bwhited:

Description says:

"MUZZLE DEVICE SureFire, FH556-215A"

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Yeah, saw that. My guess is that since SF doesn't have the SF4P listed on their website, someone at Geissele didn't know what to call it and picked the name of the only 4-prong flash hider that is visible on SF's website, thinking it was close enough. Would be really strange for the only company with a line on civi sales of SF4P's to suddenly drop them for an outdated design. Or I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

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Posted: 9/3/2019 2:15:01 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By oldbrowndog:

Yeah, saw that. My guess is that since SF doesn't have the SF4P listed on their website, someone at Geissele didn't know what to call it and picked the name of the only 4-prong flash hider that is visible on SF's website, thinking it was close enough. Would be really strange for the only company with a line on civi sales of SF4P's to suddenly drop them for an outdated design. Or I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

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The point of the 4 prong was to be clone correct. Since these are not clone correct it would not surprise me if the description was correct.

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pezboytate They hold no quarter. Joined Nov 2007 Posts 4528 EE 100% (282) IN, USA	Posted: 9/4/2019 8:07:15 AM EDT [#41] Quote History Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: 7th SFGA guns https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_8452_jpg-1078470.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_8453_jpg-1078471.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_8457_jpg-1078472.JPG CD View Quote Would you please take some pics of gas blocks? Thanks

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H8train375 Member Joined Mar 2008 Posts 274 EE 100% (28) FL, USA	Posted: 9/4/2019 2:21:14 PM EDT [Last Edit: H8train375] [#43] Attached File How did I do? Waiting on G front and rear buis to add to it Fatso in the back did not come with upper from G

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ryee30 Joined Apr 2005 Posts 36 EE 100% (28) CA, USA	Posted: 9/5/2019 12:51:14 AM EDT [#49] I ordered from Geissele over the Labor Day Weekend. Curious to know how long does it take for them to fulfill the order? thanks,

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I ordered from Geissele over the Labor Day Weekend. Curious to know how long does it take for them to fulfill the order?

thanks,

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The last time I ordered it was like 3 weeks before it shipped... and that was not during a holiday sale. It’s to the point that I basically won’t buy from them. Nothing “in stock” should take more than a day or so to ship.

That said, my Black Friday (2018) order came in less than a week.

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