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So are the long collars for aesthetics or are they necessary for the suppressor? My HCS upper has the short collar and I'm wondering.
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Originally Posted By TheGunslinger:
So are the long collars for aesthetics or are they necessary for the suppressor? My HCS upper has the short collar and I'm wondering. View Quote Aesthetics, mainly. The shoulders are in the same location regardless of length. All military issued Mk12s had long collars, so they're more in demand. |
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Originally Posted By Davey_Sickboy:
I really didn't mind before.....but now it's driving me nuts! The short collars look like fuckin penis helmets. Guess I'll be jumping on the band wagon. http://<a href=http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww245/Davey_Sickboy/20150930_121950-01_zpsc8xd0vvw.jpeg</a>" /> View Quote I actually laughed pretty hard at penis helmet. |
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Yeah Davey thats why i had to remove mine asap lol. Fuckin penis helmet was killin me
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PRI is having an inventory reduction sale dudes, if you're wanting PRI Gas Blockss or Gasbusters, handguards, etc now seems to be the time.
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Originally Posted By Movistar: Mailman was good to me today: http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac228/Fivejackmans/EF4781EA-8A05-4912-9E2C-A00924751996_zpsbvrjrarb.jpg View Quote Doin' inventory, end of the month shit at work, and I'm stuck working late. A man can only take so much. |
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Originally Posted By Movistar:
Mailman was good to me today: <a href="http://s902.photobucket.com/user/Fivejackmans/media/EF4781EA-8A05-4912-9E2C-A00924751996_zpsbvrjrarb.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac228/Fivejackmans/EF4781EA-8A05-4912-9E2C-A00924751996_zpsbvrjrarb.jpg</a> View Quote Nice! |
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
If it's marked TS-30, I'll strangle you while you sleep. Doin' inventory, end of the month shit at work, and I'm stuck working late. A man can only take so much. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By Movistar:
Mailman was good to me today: http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac228/Fivejackmans/EF4781EA-8A05-4912-9E2C-A00924751996_zpsbvrjrarb.jpg Doin' inventory, end of the month shit at work, and I'm stuck working late. A man can only take so much. sadly it is not marked TS30. It is a Mildot reticle. Which I like. MK4 MR/T 3-9X36 with M3 turrets. The Ebay ad said M2, but looking at the pics after I bought it and calling Leupold it was special ordered with M3 elevation. They will change to M2 for 90 bucks. I paid $800 and it came with a set of lever stops #22 highs, Leupold brand ARD and Leupold brand lens caps. Also came with a "Mk12 mod 1 77grn" big font turret and an OEM 168 grn 308 turret. In hindsight I while I am happy with this, but probably should have just stuck with my 2.5-8 which I sold for 800 bucks. I figured it was straight across trade at 800/800 and I'd get a set of high rings, a kill flash and leupold caps out of it. The AD said "M2 turrets" but now I have to send it in to have it changed to actually have the M2. So maybe if I sell the rings I'll have broken even. I honestly didn't know it was the Same magnification. I honestly though I was getting one more power lol. |
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Originally Posted By Movistar: sadly it is not marked TS30. It is a Mildot reticle. Which I like. MK4 MR/T 3-9X36 with M3 turrets. The Ebay ad said M2, but looking at the pics after I bought it and calling Leupold it was special ordered with M3 elevation. They will change to M2 for 90 bucks. I paid $800 and it came with a set of lever stops #22 highs, Leupold brand ARD and Leupold brand lens caps. Also came with a "Mk12 mod 1 77grn" big font turret and an OEM 168 grn 308 turret. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Movistar: Originally Posted By secretwheelman: Originally Posted By Movistar: Mailman was good to me today: http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac228/Fivejackmans/EF4781EA-8A05-4912-9E2C-A00924751996_zpsbvrjrarb.jpg Doin' inventory, end of the month shit at work, and I'm stuck working late. A man can only take so much. sadly it is not marked TS30. It is a Mildot reticle. Which I like. MK4 MR/T 3-9X36 with M3 turrets. The Ebay ad said M2, but looking at the pics after I bought it and calling Leupold it was special ordered with M3 elevation. They will change to M2 for 90 bucks. I paid $800 and it came with a set of lever stops #22 highs, Leupold brand ARD and Leupold brand lens caps. Also came with a "Mk12 mod 1 77grn" big font turret and an OEM 168 grn 308 turret. Hell of a buy, though. |
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You think so? I was wondering if I paid too much haha
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"Not proud of everything I've done, but at least you know I did it well."
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Originally Posted By Hunterex: No, I think you did just fine. Mailman was good to me today, too. Off to go paint. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Hunterex: Originally Posted By Movistar: You think so? I was wondering if I paid too much haha No, I think you did just fine. Mailman was good to me today, too. Off to go paint. |
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Hell, that could mean anything coming from you. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By Hunterex:
Originally Posted By Movistar:
You think so? I was wondering if I paid too much haha No, I think you did just fine. Mailman was good to me today, too. Off to go paint. Something simple today, but it means I have to tear down and paint both Mk12s. |
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Originally Posted By Hunterex:
Something simple today, but it means I have to tear down and paint both Mk12s. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Hunterex:
Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By Hunterex:
Originally Posted By Movistar:
You think so? I was wondering if I paid too much haha No, I think you did just fine. Mailman was good to me today, too. Off to go paint. Something simple today, but it means I have to tear down and paint both Mk12s. Ooh ooh. I think know what it is... Pick me teacher!!! It rhymes with "shmarms 22 mings" |
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Originally Posted By Movistar:
sadly it is not marked TS30. It is a Mildot reticle. Which I like. MK4 MR/T 3-9X36 with M3 turrets. The Ebay ad said M2, but looking at the pics after I bought it and calling Leupold it was special ordered with M3 elevation. They will change to M2 for 90 bucks. I paid $800 and it came with a set of lever stops #22 highs, Leupold brand ARD and Leupold brand lens caps. Also came with a "Mk12 mod 1 77grn" big font turret and an OEM 168 grn 308 turret. In hindsight I while I am happy with this, but probably should have just stuck with my 2.5-8 which I sold for 800 bucks. I figured it was straight across trade at 800/800 and I'd get a set of high rings, a kill flash and leupold caps out of it. The AD said "M2 turrets" but now I have to send it in to have it changed to actually have the M2. So maybe if I sell the rings I'll have broken even. I honestly didn't know it was the Same magnification. I honestly though I was getting one more power lol. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Movistar:
Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By Movistar:
Mailman was good to me today: http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac228/Fivejackmans/EF4781EA-8A05-4912-9E2C-A00924751996_zpsbvrjrarb.jpg Doin' inventory, end of the month shit at work, and I'm stuck working late. A man can only take so much. sadly it is not marked TS30. It is a Mildot reticle. Which I like. MK4 MR/T 3-9X36 with M3 turrets. The Ebay ad said M2, but looking at the pics after I bought it and calling Leupold it was special ordered with M3 elevation. They will change to M2 for 90 bucks. I paid $800 and it came with a set of lever stops #22 highs, Leupold brand ARD and Leupold brand lens caps. Also came with a "Mk12 mod 1 77grn" big font turret and an OEM 168 grn 308 turret. In hindsight I while I am happy with this, but probably should have just stuck with my 2.5-8 which I sold for 800 bucks. I figured it was straight across trade at 800/800 and I'd get a set of high rings, a kill flash and leupold caps out of it. The AD said "M2 turrets" but now I have to send it in to have it changed to actually have the M2. So maybe if I sell the rings I'll have broken even. I honestly didn't know it was the Same magnification. I honestly though I was getting one more power lol. They renamed the 3-9 to more accurately reflect the actual magnification., so they should provide roughly the same mag. |
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Originally Posted By Zakk101abn:
Ooh ooh. I think know what it is... Pick me teacher!!! It rhymes with "shmarms 22 mings" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Zakk101abn:
Originally Posted By Hunterex:
Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By Hunterex:
Originally Posted By Movistar:
You think so? I was wondering if I paid too much haha No, I think you did just fine. Mailman was good to me today, too. Off to go paint. Something simple today, but it means I have to tear down and paint both Mk12s. Ooh ooh. I think know what it is... Pick me teacher!!! It rhymes with "shmarms 22 mings" Not yet on those, but soon. |
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A1 lower???
Lance in your opinion is there more clone value in having a 3-9x36 over the 2.5-8x36? |
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Alright man I give up. What is it????
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The larger screw is really nice. I didn't know enough to think that it was different than the Ops Long Collar or not that way.
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Got my long collars in yesterday, very nice. Matches the BO gas block finish perfectly on my MOD 1. Out of curiosity measured my HCS douglas barrel shoulder to collar, and it seems to be about 1/4
short of the spec 2". I suspect the collar step is machined were it is supposed to be, but the muzzle threads were machined about 1/4" too much accounting for the distance from shoulder to step being short. The end of the barrel/crown sticks out about that much when fully torqued down with the supplied crush washer. Kind of disapointed with HCS's QC as of late. You spend alot of money to buy the closest to "spec" as possible, and you get the opposite. It's not a big deal in the whole scheme of things. I don't live in a free state and don't ever foresee mounting a suppressor, but it would still be nice to get what you pay for when you dole out top dollar. |
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Originally Posted By HardballR:
Got my long collars in yesterday, very nice. Matches the BO gas block finish perfectly on my MOD 1. Out of curiosity measured my HCS douglas barrel shoulder to collar, and it seems to be about 1/4 short of the spec 2". I suspect the collar step is machined were it is supposed to be, but the muzzle threads were machined about 1/4" too much accounting for the distance from shoulder to step being short. The end of the barrel/crown sticks out about that much when fully torqued down with the supplied crush washer. Kind of disapointed with HCS's QC as of late. You spend alot of money to buy the closest to "spec" as possible, and you get the opposite. It's not a big deal in the whole scheme of things. I don't live in a free state and don't ever foresee mounting a suppressor, but it would still be nice to get what you pay for when you dole out top dollar. View Quote And you're measuring from the middle of the taper on the collar (where the can would touch the collars taper) to the shoulder right? That is what I believe should be 2 inches. And to those who would say "who cares shoot the hell out of it.".. This isn't a debate about how many threads you should have. When I went I put my can on it basically didn't go all the way around once. As much as I advocate for shooting the hell out of anything (all about it) I do not want to have someone ruin a can they wanted a year for because we told them to shoot It without their can properly attached. Much love to all the brother that have helped me in this thread with awesome advice. |
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Originally Posted By Movistar:
And you're measuring from the middle of the taper on the collar (where the can would touch the collars taper) to the shoulder right? That is what I believe should be 2 inches. And to those who would say "who cares shoot the hell out of it.".. This isn't a debate about how many threads you should have. When I went I put my can on it basically didn't go all the way around once. As much as I advocate for shooting the hell out of anything (all about it) I do not want to have someone ruin a can they wanted a year for because we told them to shoot It without their can properly attached. Much love to all the brother that have helped me in this thread with awesome advice. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Movistar:
Originally Posted By HardballR:
Got my long collars in yesterday, very nice. Matches the BO gas block finish perfectly on my MOD 1. Out of curiosity measured my HCS douglas barrel shoulder to collar, and it seems to be about 1/4 short of the spec 2". I suspect the collar step is machined were it is supposed to be, but the muzzle threads were machined about 1/4" too much accounting for the distance from shoulder to step being short. The end of the barrel/crown sticks out about that much when fully torqued down with the supplied crush washer. Kind of disapointed with HCS's QC as of late. You spend alot of money to buy the closest to "spec" as possible, and you get the opposite. It's not a big deal in the whole scheme of things. I don't live in a free state and don't ever foresee mounting a suppressor, but it would still be nice to get what you pay for when you dole out top dollar. And you're measuring from the middle of the taper on the collar (where the can would touch the collars taper) to the shoulder right? That is what I believe should be 2 inches. And to those who would say "who cares shoot the hell out of it.".. This isn't a debate about how many threads you should have. When I went I put my can on it basically didn't go all the way around once. As much as I advocate for shooting the hell out of anything (all about it) I do not want to have someone ruin a can they wanted a year for because we told them to shoot It without their can properly attached. Much love to all the brother that have helped me in this thread with awesome advice. Yes. |
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I got some good news and bad news.
The good news: My AEM5 to M4 collar and flash hider came in from ADCO. The bad news: The collar was missing the set screw, but....The SIG barrel is a bit too big in diameter to work with the collar. Literally like 0.5mm too big. It's also a bit longer by about 0.02" The better news: I called Ron Allen, and he's freakin' awesome. |
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Sam's Misguided Children I was cloning before cloning was cool: Mk12, Mk13, Mk18, M4 Block II |
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Sam's Misguided Children I was cloning before cloning was cool: Mk12, Mk13, Mk18, M4 Block II |
Originally Posted By Hunterex: And done until my rings come in Saturday or Monday. http://img.pixady.com/2015/10/957465_mod0newup.jpg Matches up well enough from a distance. Went from this http://img.pixady.com/2015/10/953983_ckeyhole.jpg To this http://img.pixady.com/2015/10/990962_caf.jpg That's it. Nothing fancy at all, but it crosses off one of the last to-dos on this rifle. http://img.pixady.com/2015/10/940341_swan1.jpg http://img.pixady.com/2015/10/829808_swan2.jpg http://img.pixady.com/2015/10/622120_arms17.jpg No winged swan logos on this rifle. Last two things to do, change the podloc and switch to a full address set screw FSB. View Quote |
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I've used ADCO several times, but I can't recall if they are able to modify a standard 18" barrel to the correct Mk12 profile? I have a standard DD 18" barrel (mid length) that I am working on.
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Originally Posted By AmericanCheese: I've used ADCO several times, but I can't recall if they are able to modify a standard 18" barrel to the correct Mk12 profile? I have a standard DD 18" barrel (mid length) that I am working on. View Quote It would be cheaper to get the measurements of your barrel and call up Ron Allen and have him make a AEM5 to M4 barrel collar. Or, you you give me dimensions of yours, I may be able to tell you if the ones offered will work. Ron is making me a collar at no charge because the one I had wouldn't fit (AEM5 to M4 barrel). Classy man and great guy. Or White Oak barrels are like $275ish ADCO should be able to profile the barrel for the ARM5/12th Model |
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Sam's Misguided Children I was cloning before cloning was cool: Mk12, Mk13, Mk18, M4 Block II |
Love that upper Hunterex!!!! I love it!
Bohguy needs one of those... |
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Originally Posted By AmericanCheese:
I've used ADCO several times, but I can't recall if they are able to modify a standard 18" barrel to the correct Mk12 profile? I have a standard DD 18" barrel (mid length) that I am working on. View Quote For a MK12? You gotta get rifle gas and a Douglas in my opinion Edit: make it 1/7 while you're at it |
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Thanks DD...I might just send it off and have them work it real time.
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Originally Posted By Movistar:
For a MK12? You gotta get rifle gas and a Douglas in my opinion View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Movistar:
Originally Posted By AmericanCheese:
I've used ADCO several times, but I can't recall if they are able to modify a standard 18" barrel to the correct Mk12 profile? I have a standard DD 18" barrel (mid length) that I am working on. For a MK12? You gotta get rifle gas and a Douglas in my opinion So like all the incorrect barrels used in m4 clone builds and CQBR's? You are poo pooing WOA and BCM Mk12 profiled barrels? |
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Originally Posted By Movistar: For a MK12? You gotta get rifle gas and a Douglas in my opinion Edit: make it 1/7 while you're at it View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Movistar: Originally Posted By AmericanCheese: I've used ADCO several times, but I can't recall if they are able to modify a standard 18" barrel to the correct Mk12 profile? I have a standard DD 18" barrel (mid length) that I am working on. For a MK12? You gotta get rifle gas and a Douglas in my opinion Edit: make it 1/7 while you're at it WOA Master Race |
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Sam's Misguided Children I was cloning before cloning was cool: Mk12, Mk13, Mk18, M4 Block II |
Or I could just relocate gas port, have adco make cuts, and have the only legit profiled DD Mk12 in existence.....mind blower
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Originally Posted By AmericanCheese:
So like all the incorrect barrels used in m4 clone builds and CQBR's? You are poo pooing WOA and BCM Mk12 profiled barrels? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AmericanCheese:
Originally Posted By Movistar:
Originally Posted By AmericanCheese:
I've used ADCO several times, but I can't recall if they are able to modify a standard 18" barrel to the correct Mk12 profile? I have a standard DD 18" barrel (mid length) that I am working on. For a MK12? You gotta get rifle gas and a Douglas in my opinion So like all the incorrect barrels used in m4 clone builds and CQBR's? You are poo pooing WOA and BCM Mk12 profiled barrels? I won't poo poo WOA or BA or BCM they seem to be correct dimensions. But one time at my work I met a guy who was on the team that developed the Mk12 SPR and when I told him I was gonna build one he said repeatedly "remember the barrel is the heart of the weapon system"... I inquired and he said Douglas 1/7 rifle gas 18 inch ... Now true there have been some barrels in this thread lately that have been made incorrectly (wrong dimensions) but if I'm building my MK12 I'm gonna spend an extra $100 dollars (these systems are 4k total, what's 100 bucks for the right part?) to have right one for a lifetime. I started out planning on a Noveske switchblock barrel and the wrong scope.... Over time you come to realize that clones are well... Different. I don't try to better the gun. I try to replicate the gun. |
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Originally Posted By Hunterex: I'll get there. I look forward to the disappointment when the reveal shows the change is pointless. http://img.pixady.com/2015/10/235132_opscollars.jpg Decided while I have the Mod 0 in pieces to post a comparison between an original Ops Inc 12th long and Glass1's. Ops long, Glass1, Ops short. Tall guy in the back is an AE M4 to SPR. Identical in every way save for the larger set screw which I really appreciate. View Quote can you throw a caliper on the inside and let us know the top an bottom measurements? |
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
can you throw a caliper on the inside and let us know the top an bottom measurements? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
Originally Posted By Hunterex:
I'll get there. I look forward to the disappointment when the reveal shows the change is pointless. http://img.pixady.com/2015/10/235132_opscollars.jpg Decided while I have the Mod 0 in pieces to post a comparison between an original Ops Inc 12th long and Glass1's. Ops long, Glass1, Ops short. Tall guy in the back is an AE M4 to SPR. Identical in every way save for the larger set screw which I really appreciate. can you throw a caliper on the inside and let us know the top an bottom measurements? Be happy to when I find my calipers. I can tell you that it fits loose on Bison barrels and fits just right on Ballistic Advantage, requiring a bump over my paint. I think you just got screwed by tolerance stacking. ETA - So the Mod 0 got disassembled again because I managed to strip out not one but both lugs in the top rail of the PRi handguard. PRi gets another $45 from me. In the meanwhile, gotta make lemonade out of this so.... |
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
Lemonade..... <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s23.postimg.org/b05wjnpjv/20151001_231853.jpg</a> View Quote That's a mighty fine glass of lemonade you got there....your gonna be attracting some thirsty motherfuckers |
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Originally Posted By HardballR: Originally Posted By Movistar: Originally Posted By HardballR: Got my long collars in yesterday, very nice. Matches the BO gas block finish perfectly on my MOD 1. Out of curiosity measured my HCS douglas barrel shoulder to collar, and it seems to be about 1/4 short of the spec 2". I suspect the collar step is machined were it is supposed to be, but the muzzle threads were machined about 1/4" too much accounting for the distance from shoulder to step being short. The end of the barrel/crown sticks out about that much when fully torqued down with the supplied crush washer. Kind of disapointed with HCS's QC as of late. You spend alot of money to buy the closest to "spec" as possible, and you get the opposite. It's not a big deal in the whole scheme of things. I don't live in a free state and don't ever foresee mounting a suppressor, but it would still be nice to get what you pay for when you dole out top dollar. And you're measuring from the middle of the taper on the collar (where the can would touch the collars taper) to the shoulder right? That is what I believe should be 2 inches. And to those who would say "who cares shoot the hell out of it.".. This isn't a debate about how many threads you should have. When I went I put my can on it basically didn't go all the way around once. As much as I advocate for shooting the hell out of anything (all about it) I do not want to have someone ruin a can they wanted a year for because we told them to shoot It without their can properly attached. Much love to all the brother that have helped me in this thread with awesome advice. Yes. |
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Originally Posted By Davey_Sickboy:
Was it on their site? I couldn't find anything on sale. I'm probably just late as always. :( View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Davey_Sickboy:
Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:
PRI is having an inventory reduction sale dudes, if you're wanting PRI Gas Blockss or Gasbusters, handguards, etc now seems to be the time. Was it on their site? I couldn't find anything on sale. I'm probably just late as always. :( towards the upper right of their website....."Inventory Reduction Sale". |
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