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Posted: 7/27/2017 12:37:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FreefallRet]
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blcouch:
I was in the Mk12 Mod 0 and 1 pic thread from August 2006 but I just looked and the pictures are long gone so here: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/65572/IMG-8995-262863.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/65572/IMG-8994-262862.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/65572/IMG-8993-262860.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/65572/IMG-1193-262859.JPG I just realized hat the mag in the top two pics is one that came from Iraq circa 2007. A Friend of a Friend and all that. That upper was assembled by WES with parts I sent him except for the BCG. The lower was my doing. It arrived the Friday after Katrina hit. I had him overnight it because I had family down there with serious security issues and they knew I was a 'gun guy'. Not that I would have shot anyone at scope-needed distances, but better to have and not need and all that. The Algiers Militia kinda helped quell some of the lootlums. Anyway...... And this is the dedicated.22 Mod1 I just built: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/65572/IMG-0688-262865.JPG It uses a 261 bolt carrier group and Douglass barrel from CLE. Everything else is full on Mk12 goodness. I even have my KAC 'stripped lower' on there ;) |
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Posted: 7/27/2017 12:41:29 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EagleBeak:
We have a Czech guy in the house? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EagleBeak:
Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Dobrze Sir!!  |
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Posted: 7/27/2017 12:56:32 AM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Sling mounts are ITAR(ded)?  |
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Posted: 7/27/2017 1:05:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Mister_Donut]
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 78Staff:
Doesn't seem like they should be right. Mr D can expand on the details, but I do recall the posts on the ordeal of getting one as he could not find anyone to ship one to CA. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 78Staff:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Sling mounts are ITAR(ded)? I eventually got one privately, but if I wanted to buy a $30 part, I could have paid a company like irunguns.com, have them buy it, complete the proper export documents (they apparently have some sort of special super duper ITAR export license), then they ship it to their warehouse in Canada, and then they ship it to me. Probably would have cost $200 in fees just to do all the proper paper work.....all for a $30 part. |
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Posted: 7/27/2017 1:13:07 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
That looks awesome!!! I see the Arms Med rings, what Arms rail are they on? |
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Posted: 7/27/2017 11:47:40 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blcouch:
Errrrrrr......I THINK the #36(or 38) S-EX. It's also on the FDNY gun Coldbore redid and one other on I've seen in Iraq. I don't know if you can still get them but I need one for my rimfire Mod1. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blcouch:
Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
That looks awesome!!! I see the Arms Med rings, what Arms rail are they on? |
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Posted: 7/27/2017 12:02:47 PM EDT
[#7]
Will be at Manatee Gun Club tomorrow with the Mod Juan if anyone wants to come out. Been a few years since I've been down this way and figured I'd get some dope while I'm visiting the parents.
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Posted: 7/27/2017 12:18:35 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86:
The 5.56 S-EX without the sight (#36) I believe is NLA. ARMS still seems to have the 5.56 #38 S-EX listed on their finally updated website, but honestly who knows how they're still in business right now. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 7/27/2017 2:24:54 PM EDT
[#9]
Still the wrong glass and I took some creative liberty with the ergo stock
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Posted: 7/27/2017 3:24:50 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AL1EN:
Still the wrong glass and I took some creative liberty with the ergo stock https://i.imgur.com/J1xL7Qx.jpg |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/27/2017 4:13:56 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JSchell1309:
Have a bit of a dilemma here, maybe you guys can help me out. I was excited to get in on the batch of M16A1 lowers that Brownells had last month for full price, $150 for my mod 1 clone. I have had that squirreled away in the safe until I can collect all the parts to do the build all at once. I noticed Brownells still has them in stock on their website, however they are the blem model with the safety markings on the right side where it should be blank, they are selling for $125. This got me thinking that I never did pay attention to the lower I got. I checked it out and sure enough they sent me blem model for the full $150 price when I purchased it as a non blem model. I contacted their customer service and got this back: So it's good they are willing to do a full refund. I'm still upset though as I was looking for a non blem good to go A1 lower. My options: Get full refund on the blem lower and wait god knows how long for Nodak or Brownells to get regular A1 lowers back in stock Ask for partial refund and get $25 refunded and use the blem as it is with markings on the wrong side. Sucks to pay such a premium for a lower and have it not correct. Ask for partial refund and send it off to be engraved with "GM Hydramatic" markings on the left side and ask them to fill in the blem markings on the right side. (I think this option looks appealing, Anyone have a good contact for these engravings and cost for filling in the wrong markings?) http://i.imgur.com/0eWEOsM.jpg |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 7/27/2017 4:15:01 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2:
So close, yet so far 
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Posted: 7/27/2017 4:59:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Engineer5]
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AL1EN:
Still the wrong glass and I took some creative liberty with the ergo stock https://i.imgur.com/J1xL7Qx.jpg 
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MI, USA
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Posted: 7/27/2017 6:05:56 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5:
The glass you get a pass on but the stock, the stock....my god man... |
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Posted: 7/27/2017 6:12:57 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AL1EN:
The stock is for my EOD mk18 that I'm building  Post up that EOD build when it's done.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 7/27/2017 6:24:35 PM EDT
[#16]
Will do! Gonna be a bit tho building on a budget. Hellabroke
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Posted: 7/27/2017 7:58:57 PM EDT
[#17]
So I received my TRC, and TRR today
 Attached FileAnd then this happened  Attached FileThe spacing on the rail is goofy. Is there a mount for an RMR that will fit the TRR? |
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Posted: 7/27/2017 8:16:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: blcouch]
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kb1:
So I received my TRC, and TRR today https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/61393/20170727-165459-1512x2016-264544.JPGAnd then this happened https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/61393/20170727-165429-1512x2016-264545.JPG The spacing on the rail is goofy. Is there a mount for an RMR that will fit the TRR? A file. If you want the mount to fit NOW, don't want to spend another dime and this a working gun and not a safe queen, use a good new file and file a notch in. I filed a $400 pistol barrel to fit because a 'former Colt custom shop gunsmith' couldn't put a notch in the right place. I works. You may not be one of those guys but if I've learned anything here in 13 years it's to weigh all the costs and risks and if the simplest answer is to diy then go for it. You'll have your red dot mounted, some 'street cred' and a sense of pride, especially if it works out right. Take your time, go slow and use the right tools. A cheap digital caliper is a God send on these type projects. YMMV. Good luck! |
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Posted: 7/27/2017 8:48:56 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blcouch:
This may sound crazy but hey, it's Arfcom: A file. If you want the mount to fit NOW, don't want to spend another dime and this a working gun and not a safe queen, use a good new file and file a notch in. I filed a $400 pistol barrel to fit because a 'former Colt custom shop gunsmith' couldn't put a notch in the right place. I works. You may not be one of those guys but if I've learned anything here in 13 years it's to weigh all the costs and risks and if the simplest answer is to diy then go for it. You'll have your red dot mounted, some 'street cred' and a sense of pride, especially if it works out right. Take your time, go slow and use the right tools. A cheap digital caliper is a God send on these type projects. YMMV. Good luck! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blcouch:
Originally Posted By kb1:
So I received my TRC, and TRR today https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/61393/20170727-165459-1512x2016-264544.JPGAnd then this happened https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/61393/20170727-165429-1512x2016-264545.JPG The spacing on the rail is goofy. Is there a mount for an RMR that will fit the TRR? A file. If you want the mount to fit NOW, don't want to spend another dime and this a working gun and not a safe queen, use a good new file and file a notch in. I filed a $400 pistol barrel to fit because a 'former Colt custom shop gunsmith' couldn't put a notch in the right place. I works. You may not be one of those guys but if I've learned anything here in 13 years it's to weigh all the costs and risks and if the simplest answer is to diy then go for it. You'll have your red dot mounted, some 'street cred' and a sense of pride, especially if it works out right. Take your time, go slow and use the right tools. A cheap digital caliper is a God send on these type projects. YMMV. Good luck! . Problem is that no matter how I place the mount, I would need to notch over one of the screws used to secure the TRR  .
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Posted: 7/27/2017 9:09:23 PM EDT
[#20]
That sucks.
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Posted: 7/27/2017 9:18:12 PM EDT
[#21]
I've been pondering a build for several years. Ended up building a budget 18" but still yearning for a spr. How hard is it to source parts for these? Debating on itching that scratch.
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Posted: 7/27/2017 9:50:15 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Weasel_Master:
I've been pondering a build for several years. Ended up building a budget 18" but still yearning for a spr. How hard is it to source parts for these? Debating on itching that scratch. |
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Posted: 7/27/2017 10:19:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: blcouch]
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Weasel_Master:
I've been pondering a build for several years. Ended up building a budget 18" but still yearning for a spr. How hard is it to source parts for these? Debating on itching that scratch. KAC FFRAS Long Certain SWAN sleeves by A.R.M.S MAYBE certain flip up sights The NF "correct" scope The Leupold "correct" scope These things are kinda like M40Ax rifles: in the early years there were set 'items' that were canon and anything else was an interpretation, not a clone. Now, as time has gone on, more scopes have been used, different stocks, ect. You have to make the decision to make an "original" clone, i.e. circa 2001-2005, or something more contemporary. It's your rifle so it's up to you to decide if you want a CLONE of a specific type, a CLONE of a specific rifle pictured in a .mil photo or just a great shooting rifle you're proud of. I'm building am M40A1 clone that is correct for every detail except I'm having a brake and suppressor mounted. No photos exist of such an animal but I have it on good authority that they did exist in extremely limited numbers. That and I don't shoot unsuppressed guns anymore. So to the Clone Army, it won't be 100% correct. But it will be absolutely correct in every detail other than the brake and can, and that's good enough for me(though later rifles such as the A5 did use brakes and cans). Good luck and search long and often in every forum on the net. You may find everything you need and you may not. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2017 7:05:38 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5:
Which model? 0,1 or H? |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2017 8:52:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AL1EN]
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Weasel_Master:
Preferably 0. If that's too tough I'd do 1, not H. www.precisionreflex.com has all you need to get started. but good luck finding the original swan sleeve |
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Posted: 7/28/2017 11:27:45 AM EDT
[#26]
More parts came in:
A sum of the parts: 
I was going to wait until I got everything, but I couldn't resist last night so I started to piece it together. 
As you can see, the barrel is completely wrong. It's not a bad barrel, in fact, this particular Colt HBAR produced sub MOA groups, but I didn't like the look of the build it was sitting in so I parted out the rifle, kept the barrel and started collecting Mk12ish parts. 
Since the barrel was not correct, I had no idea where to mount the collar, so trial and error, I had it pretty close to the gas block at first. 
Later on, I shifted it forward. It doesn't look horrendous, but the barrel is clearly two inches too long to be considered a proper clone. 
I threw my Patrol on there, which looks slightly off, but at least the rings are somewhat correct, lol! Also just grabed a bipod adapter and one of my Champion pivot bipods. I'll spring for the correct mount and a Harris one day, but I'm not in a hurry for those parts. 
I borrowed the lower from my Mk18 just to see what a complete rifle would look like, and I like what I have so far. It's not perfect, but I like the look a lot more than this: 
I'm still waiting out on those stripped SR-15 lowers, and a few other bits here and there. Will post pics when I get them. |
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Posted: 7/28/2017 11:35:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: blcouch]
[#27]
 Attached FileThe measurment of 2.018 is the distance from the end of the brake external threads to the front edge of the TAPER of the collar. Even if not a 'correct' barrel, at least the distance would theoretically, not practically, allow the can to index properly. In a fashion it would be 'correct'. |
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Posted: 7/28/2017 11:42:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: kb1]
[#28]
Technically not clone correct, but it'll be close to the movie
. Just need to chop the extra rail off. It will be nice to have a rds as well.
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Posted: 7/28/2017 11:55:34 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blcouch:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/65572/IMG-2337-264943.JPG The measurment of 2.018 is the distance from the end of the brake external threads to the front edge of the TAPER of the collar. Even if not a 'correct' barrel, at least the distance would theoretically, not practically, allow the can to index properly. In a fashion it would be 'correct'. |
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Posted: 7/28/2017 12:01:42 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mister_Donut:
Wow, thanks for that! Will have to readjust.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/28/2017 12:18:15 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blcouch:
No problem. In fact here's all the specs if anyone wants to make a solid dummy can or what not. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/65572/IMG-2336-264961.JPG I managed to find an airsoft can for my Mk18, but I would never think of shooting with it on. Maybe I can source an airsoft can for the Mk12, but not sure I'd be able to find one that has matching threading. |
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Posted: 7/28/2017 12:58:33 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mister_Donut:
Would be cool to have a dummy can on there for photos. I managed to find an airsoft can for my Mk18, but I would never think of shooting with it on. Maybe I can source an airsoft can for the Mk12, but not sure I'd be able to find one that has matching threading. |
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Posted: 7/28/2017 1:05:11 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blcouch:
If I don't get an email saying that what I just ordered isn't available anymore, I'll have an answer for you in about 13 days. I also have the correct tap and drill bit to make an adapter if the threads are wrong ;) Was it this one you were looking at? http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Accessories_Silencers_Z_Parts_MK12_Suppressor_for_MK12_MOD1_Set.htm 
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Posted: 7/28/2017 1:08:24 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mister_Donut:
For those of you who are wondering why in hell I am talking about airsoft cans, it's because Canada has decided that banning suppressors will save thousands of babies. Was it this one you were looking at? http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Accessories_Silencers_Z_Parts_MK12_Suppressor_for_MK12_MOD1_Set.htm http://img-cdn.redwolfairsoft.com/upload/product/img/Z-KIT-007-1L.jpg
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Posted: 7/28/2017 1:13:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KavonTN]
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2017 1:54:39 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mister_Donut:
For those of you who are wondering why in hell I am talking about airsoft cans, it's because Canada has decided that banning suppressors will save thousands of babies. Was it this one you were looking at? http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Accessories_Silencers_Z_Parts_MK12_Suppressor_for_MK12_MOD1_Set.htm http://img-cdn.redwolfairsoft.com/upload/product/img/Z-KIT-007-1L.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mister_Donut:
Originally Posted By blcouch:
If I don't get an email saying that what I just ordered isn't available anymore, I'll have an answer for you in about 13 days. I also have the correct tap and drill bit to make an adapter if the threads are wrong ;) Was it this one you were looking at? http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Accessories_Silencers_Z_Parts_MK12_Suppressor_for_MK12_MOD1_Set.htm http://img-cdn.redwolfairsoft.com/upload/product/img/Z-KIT-007-1L.jpg 
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Posted: 7/28/2017 2:04:44 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SSOUNN:
I sent them an email asking if it'll thread on a Allen Engineering or Ops Inc Muzzle Brake.. I got "YES IT WILL FIT" I hope he/she is right lol.. CA is up there to with saving thousands if not millions of babies.. |
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Posted: 7/28/2017 2:08:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SSOUNN]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mister_Donut:
Well, I guess I'll order one then, lol! |
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Posted: 7/28/2017 2:47:32 PM EDT
[#39]
If I built a 22lr clone, I'd probably shoot it with the airsoft supressor on. Lol! Man, hope that lady was right and the threads match up, haha!
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Posted: 7/28/2017 5:32:29 PM EDT
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2017 6:14:03 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mvician:
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f240/mvician/newbuild/P1250510_zpskvxjnwlc.jpg |
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Posted: 7/28/2017 7:43:33 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SSOUNN:
Would that be a Fulton Armory A1 Stock..?? |
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Posted: 7/28/2017 7:47:00 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mister_Donut:
If I built a 22lr clone, I'd probably shoot it with the airsoft supressor on. Lol! Man, hope that lady was right and the threads match up, haha!
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2017 7:50:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SSOUNN]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blcouch:
When I get mine, if the threads don't match and the threaded piece can come out, I may look into having a correct threaded piece done up by someone. If it's feasible, I may have more than one made. This may be a business opportunity for me: buy airsoft 12th Models and sell them to those behind enemy lines for photo ops Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blcouch:
Originally Posted By Mister_Donut:
If I built a 22lr clone, I'd probably shoot it with the airsoft supressor on. Lol! Man, hope that lady was right and the threads match up, haha! 
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/28/2017 7:57:17 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mvician:
I believe so but not certain, bought it "used" on the EE and the seller never mentioned where he got it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mvician:
Originally Posted By SSOUNN:
Would that be a Fulton Armory A1 Stock..?? I'm digging it bro..
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Posted: 7/29/2017 12:04:41 AM EDT
[#46]
Took out the Mod0 for a beautiful range session
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Posted: 7/29/2017 1:03:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 78Staff]
[#47]
Oddly enough, having a hard time finding this info....
For a Mod 1 and a NF 2.5-10x24, which is correct rings to clear correct buis (KAC 200-600 non-micro rear) - X-High/1.375" or XX-High/1.5" ? Or alternatively, which NF Unimount, if acceptable for the Mod1? |
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Posted: 7/29/2017 1:29:51 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_FMJ:
For me they are just right......I can get a consistent cheek weld as long as I don't slouch behind the gun, as far a build quality I love them. I think you might have to play around with how far forward you mount your rings and scope to get the proper eye relief. http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a556/USMC_FMJ/DSC_0002_zpsvnhjc4zw.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USMC_FMJ:
Originally Posted By TheGunslinger:
Originally Posted By USMC_FMJ:
Originally Posted By TheGunslinger:
Originally Posted By Great_Balls_of_Fire:
Double shot https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5564/30139289201_20839b50b3_k.jpg I think you might have to play around with how far forward you mount your rings and scope to get the proper eye relief. http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a556/USMC_FMJ/DSC_0002_zpsvnhjc4zw.jpg And, I finally figured out how to search for it, the x kept throwing the seach of, you must use quotes ie "x-high" |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/29/2017 3:06:21 AM EDT
[#49]
Had to swap ARMS #22-M rings for the High rings. Leupold clearance issues with the rear BUIS. I also found out why they say rings without lever-stop... but I just put levers on bolt-release side, no issues.
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USA
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Posted: 7/29/2017 11:56:34 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mister_Donut:
For those of you who are wondering why in hell I am talking about airsoft cans, it's because Canada has decided that banning suppressors will save thousands of babies. Was it this one you were looking at? http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Accessories_Silencers_Z_Parts_MK12_Suppressor_for_MK12_MOD1_Set.htm http://img-cdn.redwolfairsoft.com/upload/product/img/Z-KIT-007-1L.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mister_Donut:
Originally Posted By blcouch:
If I don't get an email saying that what I just ordered isn't available anymore, I'll have an answer for you in about 13 days. I also have the correct tap and drill bit to make an adapter if the threads are wrong ;) Was it this one you were looking at? http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Accessories_Silencers_Z_Parts_MK12_Suppressor_for_MK12_MOD1_Set.htm http://img-cdn.redwolfairsoft.com/upload/product/img/Z-KIT-007-1L.jpg |
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