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Posted: 4/26/2020 4:42:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rustyboy: Most of extra gas is vented out the muzzle end of the gas regulator. It is drilled out, if you've noticed. There is no gas to the face. It's quite awesome. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rustyboy: Originally Posted By Magsz18: How's the gas to face? Given that its a pretty sealed system it should be quite pleasant. Thoughts? Most of extra gas is vented out the muzzle end of the gas regulator. It is drilled out, if you've noticed. There is no gas to the face. It's quite awesome. The gun is basically a G36's internal organs wearing the husk of an aluminum SCAR receiver  |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 4:48:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zeebz: Would you guys trade a AUG for a Bren 2? I love my AUG but am going back and forth on whether or not I want the 14" Bren 2 in 5.56, then I can pin/weld a flash hider on it to get it over 16", throw an ACR stock on it, and get some US made parts for 922r without going the tax stamp route. So to comply with 922r I am thinking HBI trigger/sear, HBI handguard, ACR stock, U.S. made mags and I should be good, if I were to go this route? That magazines count as 3 parts of I am not mistaken? I'd argue it's a more practical all around gun than the AUG...but practicality has little bearing for these sorts of 'less common' guns. The Bren is an improvement over the SCAR in my opinion, which puts it at or next to the top of piston-5.56 guns. The AUG is considered the best of the bullpups (though I personally think the homely RDB could easily nip at its heels) and is the most iconic bullpup behind maybe the P90. I'm not one for 'serious business' guns since I don't shoot seriously, but the Bren 2 seems to scream 'serious' to my hearing. So far it appears the gun is gaining rapid adoption wherever nations aren't being strong-armed into AR clones. |
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Posted: 4/26/2020 4:58:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gonnasellstuff: I cant imagine a better weapon than the Bren 2 so i would for sure. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gonnasellstuff: Originally Posted By Zeebz: Would you guys trade a AUG for a Bren 2? I love my AUG but am going back and forth on whether or not I want the 14" Bren 2 in 5.56, then I can pin/weld a flash hider on it to get it over 16", throw an ACR stock on it, and get some US made parts for 922r without going the tax stamp route. So to comply with 922r I am thinking HBI trigger/sear, HBI handguard, ACR stock, U.S. made mags and I should be good, if I were to go this route? That magazines count as 3 parts of I am not mistaken? I cant imagine a better weapon than the Bren 2 so i would for sure. Agreed; it's everything all the modern small arms expert couch-commandos & door-kickers both say is good in a rifle. The 805 was damn impressive for a company/country that hadn't done much in that area since Warsaw days, but the II fixed literally every complaint anyone had about the 805. My only gripes with it are the receiver endcap, which I think could be installed and latched in a way that 1) is self-tensioning so it doesn't wobble, 2) doesn't have a takedown pin backup to keep the latch from working loose under recoil. 3) I think the charging handle could be done different to result in a stronger part, but doesn't seem to be an issue so far. 4) The front end of the MS needed to be either longer like the II S guns we got originally, or shorter for a PDW-size front end (and attach in a more efficient manner than 12 screws or whatever it is). Real petty stuff that doesn't appreciably impact form, fit, or function, if I'm honest. I can't wait to see some custom, subsonic, PDW size builds; I'll take a wild guess that Daniel/Halcyon has one on the docket, since he makes BO versions of everything (that, or Wolverine )
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Posted: 4/26/2020 5:08:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lordboogie: I worked with euro-military.com to help bring in Bren 2s rails for those of use who have and want them since CZ-USA was unwilling to help. I'm still trying to get them to source the bottom pic rail, but the side rails are available for purchase. http://www.euro-military.com/CZ-Bren-2-S-Side-Weaver-Rails-Set-2pcs-d801.htm It says "no stock", but I placed an order anyway. Petr is a good dude, so we'll see. Now if I can just get a stock! |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2020 6:46:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By balthezor: Cross post: I have a Bren 2 MS 11" in 5.56. My friend has a brand new, never fired Bren 2 S version in 9 inch and 7.62x39. Do you guys think its worth to spend $1700 for it? I am very happy with my Bren 2MS, but since the S version is all sold out, was wondering if I should pull the trigger and add to the collection. Are the S version pretty valuable now? No one can tell you what the gun is worth. That is determined by you. If you're a collector then you can speculate on what the gun COULD be worth down the road. That's up to you. At 1700 bucks, its on par with what these are going for retail wise so I would say at 1700, yeah, its a "good deal". If you want a shooter, just get an MS. If you want something unique that may prove to be valuable down the road, get that S. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/26/2020 8:35:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Eichornchen]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lordboogie: I worked with euro-military.com to help bring in Bren 2s rails for those of use who have and want them since CZ-USA was unwilling to help. I'm still trying to get them to source the bottom pic rail, but the side rails are available for purchase. http://www.euro-military.com/CZ-Bren-2-S-Side-Weaver-Rails-Set-2pcs-d801.htm Awesome! I would also like to have pic rails all around like the military rifle if possible. Thanks for the heads up. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2020 12:26:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zeebz: Would you guys trade a AUG for a Bren 2? I love my AUG but am going back and forth on whether or not I want the 14" Bren 2 in 5.56, then I can pin/weld a flash hider on it to get it over 16", throw an ACR stock on it, and get some US made parts for 922r without going the tax stamp route. So to comply with 922r I am thinking HBI trigger/sear, HBI handguard, ACR stock, U.S. made mags and I should be good, if I were to go this route? That magazines count as 3 parts of I am not mistaken? Why would you need to worry about 922r if it's not going on a form 1? For the cost of doing all the 922r stuff, you could probably go with the Dan Haga ACR brace route and still get to rock the short barrel and get most of the functionality of a standard ACR. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2020 12:45:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Apec: Why would you need to worry about 922r if it's not going on a form 1? For the cost of doing all the 922r stuff, you could probably go with the Dan Haga ACR brace route and still get to rock the short barrel and get most of the functionality of a standard ACR. Don't you always need to follow 922r when converting a pistol to a rifle if it doesn't already have the parts in it? I've never done an SBR or anything, but I always thought you needed to have so many US made parts in a imported rifle? I know my Arsenal SAM7 had to have so many US parts on it, along with some other guns I've had. The Galil ACE in 7.62x39 has to use pmags or American made mags to be 922r compliant. I also don't have the patience to wait for a tax stamp, especially now I can't do my prints or anything for at least another 15 days due to everything being shut down from Covid. Local PD doesn't do them, and the only state PD near me that does do it is closed to the public for however long. |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 1:04:15 AM EDT
[#9]
All I know is I am going to go "socially distance" myself with my BREN 2 MS tomorrow or Tuesday at the private range. So neener.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2020 2:49:49 AM EDT
[#10]
Guys,
Go back a few pages. We just had a discussion on 922R. This is why we need a Bren 2 forum....Anyone here listening? lol. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:57:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eichornchen: Awesome! I would also like to have pic rails all around like the military rifle if possible. Thanks for the heads up. No problem. I'm also working with Preston Precision to get some rails developed for the Bren 2s as well. I sent him the M-LOK rails so he can get measurements and develop some renderings. I'll post when they are available as well. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:15:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: balthezor]
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zeebz: Don't you always need to follow 922r when converting a pistol to a rifle if it doesn't already have the parts in it? I've never done an SBR or anything, but I always thought you needed to have so many US made parts in a imported rifle? I know my Arsenal SAM7 had to have so many US parts on it, along with some other guns I've had. The Galil ACE in 7.62x39 has to use pmags or American made mags to be 922r compliant. I also don't have the patience to wait for a tax stamp, especially now I can't do my prints or anything for at least another 15 days due to everything being shut down from Covid. Local PD doesn't do them, and the only state PD near me that does do it is closed to the public for however long. Roll your own prints. Seriously, I was wasting so much time before going to my local PD, or paying money. Youtube esilencers video. I did it for the last 6 Form 1s/4s. From November 2019 and they all got approved in March, way faster than any other Form 4s I've ever done. No issues at all and the prints I did were better than the PDs. It's not hard and why wait for prints when you can wait for the stamp now. My only regret is that I didn't listen to people saying roll your own prints sooner. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:28:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Magsz18: Guys, Go back a few pages. We just had a discussion on 922R. This is why we need a Bren 2 forum....Anyone here listening? lol. The CZ Scorpion thread is up to 231 pages, wonder how many times 922R has been covered in that one Sighted in and shot a few mags this weekend, had one light primer strike on the first shot of a mag but other than that it ran flawless. Second time around it went bang. Shot sub 2 MOA group at 50 yards prone resting off mag with 55 grain reloads so I’m happy with its accuracy.  |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2020 7:59:58 PM EDT
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In case anyone has a Gemtech Halo, it works with the stock muzzle device.
 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:02:14 PM EDT
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Oh, forgot to ask!
M3 Pmags compatible with the 5.56 guns? Any issues with the over travel stop on the magazine and the polymer insert? |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:05:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rustyboy: That's what I did wrt 922r. Never ran an AUG, so no help there. @rustyboy Just had my FFL order me a 14" Bren 2 (keeping the AUG as well, not selling it). What flash hider did you pin to the barrel? Wondering how long one has to be to get it to 16"? I assume a 2.5" FH should be long enough. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2020 9:58:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zeebz: @rustyboy Just had my FFL order me a 14" Bren 2 (keeping the AUG as well, not selling it). What flash hider did you pin to the barrel? Wondering how long one has to be to get it to 16"? I assume a 2.5" FH should be long enough. I have a Sandman, so NOX comp. |
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:13:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Magsz18: Oh, forgot to ask! M3 Pmags compatible with the 5.56 guns? Any issues with the over travel stop on the magazine and the polymer insert? No issues. Good half my mags are m3 mags. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/27/2020 10:33:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BisonWorld: No issues. Good half my mags are m3 mags. Excellent! Thank you! |
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Posted: 4/28/2020 8:25:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Smurgeon: In case anyone has a Gemtech Halo, it works with the stock muzzle device. https://i.imgur.com/acb6jfp.jpg https://i.imgur.com/P9sRpMi.jpg Was going to go with a saker, but I do like the stock FH. Decision, decisions ... |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2020 1:57:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: balthezor]
[#21]
What part from Dan Haga do I need to attach the Tailhook to the ACR stock? I can't find it on his website
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2020 2:23:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By balthezor: What part from Dan Haga do I need to attach the Tailhook to the ACR stock? I can't find it on his website https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-2fcw2pv1dn/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/114/525/Bren201__60072.1557542299.jpg?c=2&imbypass=on https://danhagadesigns.com/tailhook-adapter-for-acr-stock/ |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2020 2:23:18 PM EDT
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Here you go:
https://danhagadesigns.com/tailhook-adapter-for-acr-stock/ |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2020 8:07:34 PM EDT
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anyone heard from CZ on stocks or barrel kits? I'd like an 11" barrel.
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NE, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2020 10:11:06 PM EDT
[#25]
Finally finished my fixed acr stock adapter to my bren 2 ms. Also pinned the flash hider to the barrel. All I need now is a longer handguard! What do u guys think?
 
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/28/2020 10:32:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cryo_tech: anyone heard from CZ on stocks or barrel kits? I'd like an 11" barrel. The barrels would be compatible between the 2S and 2 MS models? Also between 7.62 can use 5.56 barrels? |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2020 12:16:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hodgi_: Finally finished my fixed acr stock adapter to my bren 2 ms. Also pinned the flash hider to the barrel. All I need now is a longer handguard! What do u guys think?https://i.imgur.com/IiAqbTp.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/NLTqciG.jpg That is some LOP. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2020 1:28:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lordboogie]
[#28]
Hello, I've been working with Harry Preston of Preston Precision to develop picatinny rails for the Bren 2s platform. He sent me the first renderings today, and I'm looking to gauge interest to see how many he should machine for the first run. He's looking to set pricing at $100 for all three rails with free shipping. Please see below the first renderings, also if there is interest he has to ability to machine in QD mounts if people wanted to see something like that, I asked for the OEM style Picatinny rails for the first run. Please check out his website and sign up for the waitlist if interested, he will be adding additional renderings tonight: https://www.prestonprecision.net/misc/cz-bren-2s-picatinny-rails-set
    
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Posted: 4/29/2020 1:35:19 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Magsz18: This is why we need a Bren 2 forum....Anyone here listening? lol.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 1:45:14 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lordboogie: Hello, I've been working with Harry Preston of Preston Precision to develop picatinny rails for the Bren 2s platform. He sent me the first renderings today, and I'm looking to gauge interest to see how many he should machine for the first run. He's looking to set pricing at $100 for all three rails with free shipping. Please see below the first renderings, also if there is interest he has to ability to machine in QD mounts if people wanted to see something like that, I asked for the OEM style Picatinny rails for the first run. Please check out his website and sign up for the waitlist if interested, he will be adding additional renderings tonight: https://www.prestonprecision.net/misc/cz-bren-2s-picatinny-rails-set https://i.imgur.com/T2oXO16.jpg https://i.imgur.com/SvMpN3q.jpg https://i.imgur.com/taUbgEV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wkzJRPJ.jpg I need several of these piccatini rail sets. Are they aluminum or polymer? |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2020 2:04:17 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lordboogie: Hello, I've been working with Harry Preston of Preston Precision to develop picatinny rails for the Bren 2s platform. He sent me the first renderings today, and I'm looking to gauge interest to see how many he should machine for the first run. He's looking to set pricing at $100 for all three rails with free shipping. Please see below the first renderings, also if there is interest he has to ability to machine in QD mounts if people wanted to see something like that, I asked for the OEM style Picatinny rails for the first run. Please check out his website and sign up for the waitlist if interested, he will be adding additional renderings tonight: https://www.prestonprecision.net/misc/cz-bren-2s-picatinny-rails-set https://i.imgur.com/T2oXO16.jpg https://i.imgur.com/SvMpN3q.jpg https://i.imgur.com/taUbgEV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/wkzJRPJ.jpg I'm interested in a set as well. Like gonnasellstuff asked, though, what material are they? If they are aluminum then I am most definitely in. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2020 2:07:28 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zeebz: I'm interested in a set as well. Like gonnasellstuff asked, though, what material are they? If they are aluminum then I am most definitely in. These will be made out of aluminum and anodized black. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2020 2:22:46 PM EDT
[#33]
Hi this is Harry with Preston Precision. These will be CNC machined out of 6061-t6 Aluminum and then Mil-Spec Type 3 Hard coat anodized black.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2020 2:41:37 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By notserp13: Hi this is Harry with Preston Precision. These will be CNC machined out of 6061-t6 Aluminum and then Mil-Spec Type 3 Hard coat anodized black. Hi Harry thanks for making these. I would love to have these with a qd mount. Also, would you look at making a front handguard replacement for the ms to give it a more military s model look that could use your pic rails? |
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GU, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2020 2:41:57 PM EDT
[#35]
I will take a set for my 2s, much appreciated guys for doing this.
I checked if the 805 rails will fit and will not, soooo close though |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2020 2:43:48 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JuanCarlos: Hi Harry thanks for making these. I would love to have these with a qd mount. Also, would you look at making a front handguard replacement for the ms to give it a more military s model look that could use your pic rails? Doing some with a QD is possible. Where would you like it and I can come up with a revised Image. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2020 2:44:53 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ar671: I will take a set for my 2s, much appreciated guys for doing this. I checked if the 805 rails will fit and will not, soooo close though No problem. If you haven't already sign up on the waitlist on my site. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 2:48:27 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By notserp13: No problem. If you haven't already sign up on the waitlist on my site. Thanks Harry and lord boogie for making this happen! |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2020 3:17:28 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By notserp13: Hi this is Harry with Preston Precision. These will be CNC machined out of 6061-t6 Aluminum and then Mil-Spec Type 3 Hard coat anodized black. Hi Harry. Signed up on your waitlist. Thank you to you and @lordboogie for making this happen. |
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USA
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Posted: 4/29/2020 3:44:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gonnasellstuff]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By notserp13: Doing some with a QD is possible. Where would you like it and I can come up with a revised Image. Hi Harry Id prefer without the qd on rails. I would want exactly same setup as the Czech military models. Thank you for doing these. Make atleast 300 sets because Im sure everyone that owns these here will want them. :) |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 3:53:49 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gonnasellstuff: Hi Harry Id prefer without the qd on rails. I would want exactly same setup as the Czech military models. Thank you for doing these. Make atleast 300 sets because Im sure everyone that owns these here will want them. :) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gonnasellstuff: Originally Posted By notserp13: Doing some with a QD is possible. Where would you like it and I can come up with a revised Image. Hi Harry Id prefer without the qd on rails. I would want exactly same setup as the Czech military models. Thank you for doing these. Make atleast 300 sets because Im sure everyone that owns these here will want them. :) Can someone point me in the direction of the waitlist for these? I have a Bren 2 s and would love a set. Thanks |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 3:59:20 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gonnasellstuff: Hi Harry Id prefer without the qd on rails. I would want exactly same setup as the Czech military models. Thank you for doing these. Make atleast 300 sets because Im sure everyone that owns these here will want them. :) I agree, I think 90%+ of 2S owners would just want normal rails like this:  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:00:02 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thearmschest: Can someone point me in the direction of the waitlist for these? I have a Bren 2 s and would love a set. Thanks https://www.prestonprecision.net/misc/cz-bren-2s-picatinny-rails-set |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:04:47 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryThanks. I will purchase a set for sure. 
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GU, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:15:58 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By notserp13: No problem. If you haven't already sign up on the waitlist on my site. Thanks signed up already But would like rails without the QD |
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USA
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:23:00 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thearmschest: Thanks. I will purchase a set for sure. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thearmschest: Thanks. I will purchase a set for sure. |
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Posted: 4/29/2020 4:24:53 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi: I've always thought we should convert the vz.58 forum to just "Czech Arms" or something like that. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/78310/myCzechGuns_jpg-1392521.JPG Yes, there is an HK forum and an FN forum, there should be a CZ forum |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2020 5:15:29 PM EDT
[#48]
Picked up my NIB Bren 2 S today. I was planning on getting the 11" 5.56 Bren 2 MS, but I can't ignore getting the rare S version for less than $1650. When I heard about the Bren 2 last year, I did wanted the 9" 7.62, but after watching reviews, reading about it, I changed my mind to the 5.56. I'll probably get the 11" 5.56 Bren 2 MS down the road if I end up loving it. Very happy to finally join the club.
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/29/2020 5:28:27 PM EDT
[#49]
So I am not a fan of the way the carbine variant of the Bren 2 looks. The long handguard and gas system just don't look appealing to me. I much prefer the way the pistols look. That said, there was a guy on Reddit a long time ago that got made fun of because he wanted to CZ to create a 5.56 version of the Scorpion, and people tried pointing him to the 805 Bren. He didn't want any part of it and was solely stuck on the idea of a "5.56 Scorpion".
Looking at the carbine variant of the Bren 2MS, it reminds me a lot of the CZ Scorpion carbine. Looks like he finally got his wish: 
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USA
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Posted: 4/29/2020 5:54:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: longsview]
[#50]
I just picked up a Bren 2 ms carbine last week from Nagels in Tx. Love it ! Makes the Scar 16 look cheap in comparison. I like the pistols too but the carbine is too sweet to pass up. I'm sure the handguards can be swapped out if you don't like. It feels really good in the hands. The folding stock is nice and tight unlike the wobbly pistols mount. It came with a nice three button green pouch full of tools, cleaning rod, oil, cleaning brushes - really nice touch. I'm a happy camper !!
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