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Posted: 11/7/2023 11:50:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryFINALLY Ok now someone review it |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 12:41:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MAKAK47: FINALLY Ok now someone review it Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MAKAK47: FINALLY Ok now someone review it I think you just volunteered. 
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Posted: 11/8/2023 12:44:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryMe want! |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 11/8/2023 1:09:09 AM EDT
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I'm gonna wait until the next Manticore VHS release, and if it's not something that overlaps with these, get both
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USA
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Posted: 11/8/2023 9:09:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRat: I'm gonna wait until the next Manticore VHS release, and if it's not something that overlaps with these, get both Was it this month they were releasing more stuff? |
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USA
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Posted: 11/8/2023 9:09:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: I think you just volunteered. I’m ‘broke’ at the moment |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 11/8/2023 9:16:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MAKAK47: Was it this month they were releasing more stuff? I think that was the plan after their move |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 11/8/2023 9:25:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MAKAK47: Was it this month they were releasing more stuff? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MAKAK47: Was it this month they were releasing more stuff? Yeah that was the last word from the man himself. Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms: Next upgrade is in the final stages of production, and will launch as soon as we are in iir new South Carolina shop in November. Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 9:53:20 AM EDT
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A flared magwell is a must and it is the biggest "issue" I have with the original design ... I actually quite like the OEM safety and bolt release design ... I've got used to it ... but the tiny mag funnel has got to GO!
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Posted: 11/8/2023 2:33:55 PM EDT
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 VHS-2 suppressed |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 3:42:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRat: Yeah that was the last word from the man himself. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRat: Originally Posted By MAKAK47: Was it this month they were releasing more stuff? Yeah that was the last word from the man himself. Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms: Next upgrade is in the final stages of production, and will launch as soon as we are in iir new South Carolina shop in November. Sven Manticore Arms The parts for the next uograde are in our shop but we are dtill getting caught up from the move from Illinois to South Carolina. I hope to have it on the webstore in the next 30 days. Sven Manticore Arms |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 4:39:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms: The parts for the next uograde are in our shop but we are dtill getting caught up from the move from Illinois to South Carolina. I hope to have it on the webstore in the next 30 days. Sven Manticore Arms Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Manticore_Arms: Originally Posted By TheRat: Originally Posted By MAKAK47: Was it this month they were releasing more stuff? Yeah that was the last word from the man himself. Originally Posted By Manticore_Arms: Next upgrade is in the final stages of production, and will launch as soon as we are in iir new South Carolina shop in November. Sven Manticore Arms The parts for the next uograde are in our shop but we are dtill getting caught up from the move from Illinois to South Carolina. I hope to have it on the webstore in the next 30 days. Sven Manticore Arms Hope its either A) a magwell or B) G36 mag conversion ... |
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USA
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Posted: 11/8/2023 4:58:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MAKAK47]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Hope its either A) a magwell or B) G36 mag conversion ... Or C) 7.62x39mm kit that takes AK mags Or D) Folding stock mod Or E) US made built in optic carry handle |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 5:02:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: thehun06]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MAKAK47: Or C) 7.62x39mm kit that takes AK mags Or D) Folding stock mod Or E) US made built in optic carry handle Folding stock on a Hellion … can’t wait to hear your thought process on that … You sure you want all those on a Hellion … 7.62x39 conversion would be cool but I don’t follow D or E whatsoever… |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 5:25:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Folding stock on a Hellion … can’t wait to hear your thought process on that … You sure you want all those on a Hellion … 7.62x39 conversion would be cool but I don’t follow D or E whatsoever… Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By MAKAK47: Or C) 7.62x39mm kit that takes AK mags Or D) Folding stock mod Or E) US made built in optic carry handle Folding stock on a Hellion … can’t wait to hear your thought process on that … You sure you want all those on a Hellion … 7.62x39 conversion would be cool but I don’t follow D or E whatsoever… He was led astray by your desire for G36 mags. He'll be wanting Mexican markings next. |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 6:43:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: He was led astray by your desire for G36 mags. He'll be wanting Mexican markings next. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By MAKAK47: Or C) 7.62x39mm kit that takes AK mags Or D) Folding stock mod Or E) US made built in optic carry handle Folding stock on a Hellion … can’t wait to hear your thought process on that … You sure you want all those on a Hellion … 7.62x39 conversion would be cool but I don’t follow D or E whatsoever… He was led astray by your desire for G36 mags. He'll be wanting Mexican markings next. I guess ... lol ... hope he knows the original VHS-2 uses G36 mags across the bond ... |
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USA
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Posted: 11/8/2023 6:52:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MAKAK47]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: He was led astray by your desire for G36 mags. He'll be wanting Mexican markings next. You just created point F) Mexican markings in a Croatian gun that uses German G36 mags… or French Famas mags, or if I get my way, AK mags |
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Posted: 11/8/2023 7:54:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: backbencher]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MAKAK47: You just created point F) Mexican markings in a Croatian gun that uses German G36 mags… or French Famas mags, or if I get my way, AK mags Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MAKAK47: Originally Posted By backbencher: He was led astray by your desire for G36 mags. He'll be wanting Mexican markings next. You just created point F) Mexican markings in a Croatian gun that uses German G36 mags… or French Famas mags, or if I get my way, AK mags Not even the French want to use FAMAS mags anymore. They were supposed to be disposable. ETA: There is not yet an Unbullpups your VHS video yet. Soon. Maybe they'll add a folding stock. |
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USA
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Posted: 11/9/2023 12:41:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By backbencher: Not even the French want to use FAMAS mags anymore. They were supposed to be disposable. ETA: There is not yet an Unbullpups your VHS video yet. Soon. Maybe they'll add a folding stock. IMAGINE THE COMPACTNESS?? |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 1:50:45 PM EDT
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Just bought one of the bolt release levers. I'll post once I receive/get it installed.
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USA
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Posted: 11/10/2023 3:30:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChengSMGT: Just bought one of the bolt release levers. I'll post once I receive/get it installed. Looking forward to your report! Please let us know how clear the instructions are and ease of install, thanks |
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Posted: 11/10/2023 6:38:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MAKAK47: Looking forward to your report! Please let us know how clear the instructions are and ease of install, thanks I'm here to be your guinea pig! |
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Posted: 11/13/2023 5:54:51 PM EDT
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Purchased on Friday, got a tracking number yesterday and USPS is showing it in their possession today. Company is based in Kansas, delivery is scheduled for Thursday. Hoping I might get it Wednesday as sometimes that does happen.
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USA
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Posted: 11/13/2023 9:07:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChengSMGT: Purchased on Friday, got a tracking number yesterday and USPS is showing it in their possession today. Company is based in Kansas, delivery is scheduled for Thursday. Hoping I might get it Wednesday as sometimes that does happen. Sweet! |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2023 2:04:18 AM EDT
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 An Honest Review of The Springfield Armory VHS Hellion - We Should have Gone with Betamax I really hate the trigger..Its not what the youtubers said it showed it would be.. These guys show why I might actually hate it.. |
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VT, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2023 6:40:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Odinforever2000:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQVJvurxe0gI really hate the trigger..Its not what the youtubers said it showed it would be.. These guys show why I might actually hate it.. Couple of dunces there. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2023 7:36:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Scrapple]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Odinforever2000: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQVJvurxe0gI really hate the trigger..Its not what the youtubers said it showed it would be.. These guys show why I might actually hate it.. That video was poorly executed. Clearly, they receive their popularity from being overly dramatic and critical. I just shot mine yesterday, and yet again, it shot under 1 MOA. With a trigger upgrade, I don't know if it would be any more accurate, but I could certainly shoot it faster. With that said, the trigger isn't good, and an upgrade would be a welcome addition. I have lots of complaints and quibbles about the VHS-2, but overall it is a very well made rifle. I'm an avid AR guy, but this rifle is certainly staying in my armory. It's the best bullpup that I've encountered, and with a few slight changes, it could be next to perfect. |
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Posted: 11/15/2023 8:53:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: thehun06]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Odinforever2000: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQVJvurxe0gI really hate the trigger..Its not what the youtubers said it showed it would be.. These guys show why I might actually hate it.. That review is absolute cringe worthy ... just saying ... that is the pure example of people being resistant to change and going OVER THE TOP with negativity to get clickbait ... There are some things with the Hellion ... sure ... but nearly ALL of it is mitigated by actually using it ... the trigger in that video is WAY overblown ... WAY ... there are a lot of worst triggers in the world ... like a FS2000, G36, UMP, MP5 etc etc ... |
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Posted: 11/15/2023 8:56:41 AM EDT
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Springfield releases colored Hellions ... nice to see it ...
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Posted: 11/15/2023 9:35:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Findsman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Springfield releases colored Hellions ... nice to see it ... The colors look good. My wallet is screaming in terror.    https://www.springfield-armory.com/hellion-series/hellion-rifles/ Looks like just the 16" versions right now, though I'm sure the 18" and 20" will follow before long. I guess I could get a 16" FDE, 18" gray, and 20" ODG. ETA - I love the AUG and Tavor but I didn't feel compelled to get all the colors as they came available. ODG was good, bam, done. The VHS is just very different to me for some reason. |
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VT, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2023 10:05:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Springfield releases colored Hellions ... nice to see it ... CURSES! Bought mine 10 months too soon. 
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Posted: 11/15/2023 10:28:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Springfield releases colored Hellions ... nice to see it ... I don't think you can say "colored" in 2023. Augmented pigmentation maybe. |
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USA
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Posted: 11/15/2023 10:33:11 AM EDT
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20” gray… come on baby!!! I’d use it for coyotes
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PA, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2023 10:35:26 AM EDT
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As much as I like the idea of buying another one in green so that I can get the updated safety, I'm not going to sell my rifle just to do that. I'll stick with what I have.
Cool that they are adding these options though. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2023 10:44:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Odinforever2000]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Scrapple: That video was poorly executed. Clearly, they receive their popularity from being overly dramatic and critical. I just shot mine yesterday, and yet again, it shot under 1 MOA. With a trigger upgrade, I don't know if it would be any more accurate, but I could certainly shoot it faster. With that said, the trigger isn't good, and an upgrade would be a welcome addition. I have lots of complaints and quibbles about the VHS-2, but overall it is a very well made rifle. I'm an avid AR guy, but this rifle is certainly staying in my armory. It's the best bullpup that I've encountered, and with a few slight changes, it could be next to perfect. Oh it wont be more accurate..Id just like the trigger more that I do...I like my factory RDB trigger and Billspringfield modified MDRX trigger much better...They are also lighter as my Hellion trigger pull is around 8lbs. |
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Posted: 11/15/2023 10:55:03 AM EDT
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I want a 20" in ODG!
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Posted: 11/15/2023 11:16:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Findsman: The colors look good. My wallet is screaming in terror. https://files.springfield-armory.com/wp-content/uploads/HL916556F-FB1-1200x1200-2-1024x1024.jpg https://files.springfield-armory.com/wp-content/uploads/HL916556G-FB1-1200x1200-1-1024x1024.jpg https://files.springfield-armory.com/wp-content/uploads/HL916556Y-FB1-1200x1200-1-1024x1024.jpg https://www.springfield-armory.com/hellion-series/hellion-rifles/ Looks like just the 16" versions right now, though I'm sure the 18" and 20" will follow before long. I guess I could get a 16" FDE, 18" gray, and 20" ODG. ETA - I love the AUG and Tavor but I didn't feel compelled to get all the colors as they came available. ODG was good, bam, done. The VHS is just very different to me for some reason. |
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Posted: 11/15/2023 1:35:55 PM EDT
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Anyone know why the VHS2 has the nitride bbl instead of the mil bbl? If the X95 can have the mil CHF/CL bbl, why not the VHS2?
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Posted: 11/15/2023 1:54:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: thehun06]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tomac: Anyone know why the VHS2 has the nitride bbl instead of the mil bbl? If the X95 can have the mil CHF/CL bbl, why not the VHS2? Only thing I can think of is maybe a dumb gov rule or company HS Produkt policy not to install military barrels in spotting rifles … same happens with HK … but at least we get nitriding … HK at $3000+ price tag still runs barrels unlined… |
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VT, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2023 10:03:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MVolkJ: I want a 20" in ODG! Me too. |
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Posted: 11/15/2023 10:37:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BSJ: Me too. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BSJ: Originally Posted By MVolkJ: I want a 20" in ODG! Me too. With the green bayonet? Hawwwwt |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2023 11:41:30 PM EDT
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Every time I'm tempted to pick one up, there is a new reason to wait lol.
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Posted: 11/16/2023 1:32:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MVolkJ: I want a 20" in ODG! JFC. Will it never end? |
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Posted: 11/16/2023 9:33:35 AM EDT
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✔️ Civilian VHS-2
✔️ 20" barrel ✔️ Bayonet lug ✔️ Bayonet ✔️ FDE and ODG ⭕ Military grip ⭕ G36 magwell ⭕ Factory optic It's getting more and more irresistible. As much as I want the craptastic factory optic, I'm probably gonna cave when the 20" comes out in green or tan.
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Posted: 11/16/2023 12:23:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd: JFC. Will it never end? NEVER 
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Posted: 11/16/2023 4:35:48 PM EDT
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Is it wrong that the OD green picture arouses me?
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Posted: 11/16/2023 5:52:00 PM EDT
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Ok, here's the skinny on the LunarTech enhanced bolt release. Received it today in a small padded envelope. I did note a small hole in the envelope where the extension of the release poked through. This is what you get inside:
 I have a downloaded version of the factory manual so I looked at the parts diagram on page 37 to see what I needed to do. You are looking at parts 128 (pin), 168 (bolt release) and 169 (spring). Using a 3/32" pin punch I knocked out the pin with a brad hammer. By pushing it completely out I was able to use the punch to keep things in place and control it. Once at that point you push the release towards the rear (compressing the spring). I then removed the punch and pulled up on the front of the release to remove it from the lower. The spring isn't very strong so I don't think there's much chance of launching things across the room. Here is what the two pieces look like together:  The new part looks good. The factory release has striations for grip, the LunarTech has a pebbled finish for that. Swap the spring over to the new part and put things back together. I was able to push the pin back in place using the punch for most of its length, then tapped it in the rest of the way with the hammer. All told it took about five minutes to swap. Easy-peasy. |
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Posted: 11/16/2023 7:36:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Findsman: The colors look good. My wallet is screaming in terror. https://files.springfield-armory.com/wp-content/uploads/HL916556F-FB1-1200x1200-2-1024x1024.jpg https://files.springfield-armory.com/wp-content/uploads/HL916556G-FB1-1200x1200-1-1024x1024.jpg https://files.springfield-armory.com/wp-content/uploads/HL916556Y-FB1-1200x1200-1-1024x1024.jpg https://www.springfield-armory.com/hellion-series/hellion-rifles/ Looks like just the 16" versions right now, though I'm sure the 18" and 20" will follow before long. I guess I could get a 16" FDE, 18" gray, and 20" ODG. ETA - I love the AUG and Tavor but I didn't feel compelled to get all the colors as they came available. ODG was good, bam, done. The VHS is just very different to me for some reason. |
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Posted: 11/16/2023 9:49:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ChengSMGT: Ok, here's the skinny on the LunarTech enhanced bolt release. Received it today in a small padded envelope. I did note a small hole in the envelope where the extension of the release poked through. This is what you get inside: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53336690463_2a79f4c965_c.jpg I have a downloaded version of the factory manual so I looked at the parts diagram on page 37 to see what I needed to do. You are looking at parts 128 (pin), 168 (bolt release) and 169 (spring). Using a 3/32" pin punch I knocked out the pin with a brad hammer. By pushing it completely out I was able to use the punch to keep things in place and control it. Once at that point you push the release towards the rear (compressing the spring). I then removed the punch and pulled up on the front of the release to remove it from the lower. The spring isn't very strong so I don't think there's much chance of launching things across the room. Here is what the two pieces look like together: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53335583007_815d0a1011_c.jpg The new part looks good. The factory release has striations for grip, the LunarTech has a pebbled finish for that. Swap the spring over to the new part and put things back together. I was able to push the pin back in place using the punch for most of its length, then tapped it in the rest of the way with the hammer. All told it took about five minutes to swap. Easy-peasy. Would love to see the finished product |
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NV, USA
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Posted: 11/17/2023 7:45:21 AM EDT
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Grey looks spectacular:
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