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Posted: 7/22/2024 9:37:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QtrHorse: I'm now at 92 days for two, 82 days for one and started another today. With my luck, it will be 10 months. I don't have a common last name at all and no jr designation. All individual e-filed form 4's. Have used two separate shops. Here's to hoping for a quick batch approval. My only logical option now is to keep adding suppressors to the queue and hopefully that works! |
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Posted: 7/22/2024 9:50:54 PM EST
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Update: Awaiting Form 4s at 247 and 33 days. One Form 1 approved in 39 days.
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By costanza: Form/eForm XXXXXXX, control # XXXXXXX, was received on 11/18/23. As of 7/3/24, it is PENDING with ATF because it is in a DELAYED status with the FBI’s Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). DELAYED status with FBI/NICS could mean that there’s an issue in the applicant’s record, or something that needs to be corrected or clarified. ATF cannot complete the transfer without a definitive PROCEED from FBI/NICS. Officially at day 247 on this Form 4. Form/eForm XXXXXXX, control # XXXXXXX, was received on 6/10/24. As of 7/3/24, it is PENDING with ATF because it is in a DELAYED status with the FBI’s Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). DELAYED status with FBI/NICS could mean that there’s an issue in the applicant’s record, or something that needs to be corrected or clarified. ATF cannot complete the transfer without a definitive PROCEED from FBI/NICS. This Form 1 was APPROVED in 39 days. Form/eForm XXXXXXX, control # XXXXXXX, was received on 6/19/24. As of 7/3/24, the application is PENDING with ATF. The current processing times may be found at: https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/current-processing-times. Current average processing times are 130-248 days for Form 4s with a trust. Please know that the times listed are average processing times. Some applications may take longer due to many factors. Officially at day 33 on this Form 4. Originally reached out to my rep on 6/24. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 7/23/2024 6:04:15 AM EST
[#3]
Should I contact my state or federal congressman?
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Posted: 7/23/2024 8:01:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spearfish249: Should I contact my state or federal congressman? I would imagine your federal rep |
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Posted: 7/23/2024 8:09:07 AM EST
[#5]
Just ordered a aem 5. Waiting in the form 3 to clear then it's off to my local ffl. I expect that in about a week or so they will start the form 4. Hopefully it takes 5 days or less again once submitted. This is probably my last can for a bit as I have purchased one the past 3 months. This makes 3 for now.
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Posted: 7/24/2024 1:29:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spearfish249: Should I contact my state or federal congressman? I contacted my US House representative. Got the ball rolling last week. |
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Posted: 7/24/2024 1:54:16 PM EST
[Last Edit: FishKepr]
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thebomber: Yup, I got the emails from the ATF 3 days before SS email. One of mine took a year to get updated. I have two others that were approved over two weeks ago that have not received the SS notice on. My Form 1s approved in 2023 still have not been updated and I get auto-generated reminders to certify one of them. |
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Posted: 7/24/2024 2:14:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FishKepr: One of mine took a year to get updated. I have two others that were approved over two weeks ago that have not received the SS notice on. My Form 1s approved in 2023 still have not been updated and I get auto-generated reminders to certify one of them. You can go in and change the status to completed yourself as well as add a pdf of your approved form. |
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Posted: 7/24/2024 2:21:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tarheel7734: You can go in and change the status to completed yourself as well as add a pdf of your approved form. Yes, I uploaded the approvals to my ‘Wallet’, but that does not update order status. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 7/24/2024 3:07:09 PM EST
[#10]
I decided to roll the dice again and see if I could win the approval lotto. I certified a Polonium K on 7/15 and it looks like I missed out again on the 24 hr approvals. Hopefully I will get approved faster than the last 2 I did this year which took 23 and 56 days to approval.
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Posted: 7/24/2024 4:53:43 PM EST
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Posted: 7/24/2024 6:03:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By costanza: Update: One Form 4 approved at 249 days. One Form 1 approved in 39 days. Awaiting one Form 4 at 35 days. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By costanza: Update: One Form 4 approved at 249 days. One Form 1 approved in 39 days. Awaiting one Form 4 at 35 days. Originally Posted By costanza: Form/eForm XXXXXXX, control # XXXXXXX, was received on 11/18/23. As of 7/3/24, it is PENDING with ATF because it is in a DELAYED status with the FBI’s Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). This Form 4 was APPROVED on day 249. Form/eForm XXXXXXX, control # XXXXXXX, was received on 6/10/24. As of 7/3/24, it is PENDING with ATF because it is in a DELAYED status with the FBI’s Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). This Form 1 was APPROVED in 39 days. Form/eForm XXXXXXX, control # XXXXXXX, was received on 6/19/24. As of 7/3/24, the application is PENDING with ATF. The current processing times may be found at: https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/current-processing-times. Current average processing times are 130-248 days for Form 4s with a trust. Please know that the times listed are average processing times. Some applications may take longer due to many factors. Officially at day 35 on this Form 4. Originally reached out to my rep on 6/24. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/24/2024 6:15:37 PM EST
[#13]
Just passed 110 days on a form 4 individual and still waiting.
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Posted: 7/24/2024 6:20:44 PM EST
[#14]
Just received 2 suppressors, same day for both .
322 days, Efile form 4 trust. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 7/24/2024 6:41:57 PM EST
[#15]
Just ticked over day 142, efile trust with one RP
I might write my senator |
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Posted: 7/24/2024 9:07:03 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Enzo300: Just received 2 suppressors, same day for both . 322 days, Efile form 4 trust. I’m at 322 days as well. You are giving me hope. Trust with 1 RP and efiled as well on two suppressors same day. |
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Posted: 7/29/2024 8:52:29 AM EST
[#17]
Got my approval today. 126 days. Eform4 indv.
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MO, USA
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Posted: 7/29/2024 11:58:05 AM EST
[#18]
Have a corporate form 4 waiting since 4-22-24, I bought another from the same dealer a couple weeks ago individual approved in 4 days.
My corporate form 1s are averaging 4 days (I generally submit on Fridays, one was over a holiday) |
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Posted: 7/29/2024 12:23:52 PM EST
[#19]
17 weeks today. 119 days.
 Nothing |
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Posted: 7/29/2024 12:34:25 PM EST
[#20]
My aem 5 just got to my local dealer today.. Hopefully doesn't take them too long to certify..
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PA, USA
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Posted: 7/29/2024 1:02:06 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pestilence12: Got my approval today. 126 days. Eform4 indv. I’m close to 120 days eform 4 individual, so hopefully soon. |
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Posted: 7/31/2024 10:27:39 AM EST
[#22]
Just got the approval email this morning. 121 days
Finally! |
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Posted: 7/31/2024 12:58:19 PM EST
[#23]
Just received an approval. 210 days trust, 1rp
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/31/2024 5:55:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: terryj]
[#24]
3 more eform 4's approved today 1 submitted July 13 and 2 submitted July 24 all SS trusts. One of them was for my 6933.
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Posted: 7/31/2024 5:55:53 PM EST
[#25]
Just signed my form 4 today. Hope my ffl gets it submitted soon.
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USA
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Posted: 7/31/2024 6:10:29 PM EST
[#26]
Submitted 03/16/2024.
Silencershop. Two Silencerco Velos LBP Approved today which just happens to be my birthday! I was getting discouraged and after reading here, I was thinking about making a call to ATF. But, all good now. |
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Posted: 7/31/2024 6:19:40 PM EST
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Tracking thread here:
https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/EForm-4-Tracking-Thread-DO-NOT-POST-before-reading-the-rules-in-OP/17-530469/? NOTE: This is for data points only, not comments or discussions. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 11:03:53 AM EST
[#28]
Finally got the approval today, 118 days form 4 individual. Called yesterday afternoon and asked a lot of questions about why it’s taking so long, guy was very nice in his response, this morning got approved.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 8/1/2024 1:25:05 PM EST
[Last Edit: Wiskey_33]
[#29]
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Posted: 8/1/2024 8:20:21 PM EST
[#30]
I called today and was told pending on all 3 of mine. Since the 16th of April , The last paper form 4's my dealer did. He got some e-files back and some of those are still pending as well.
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Posted: 8/2/2024 2:12:42 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By arjohnson: Finally got the approval today, 118 days form 4 individual. Called yesterday afternoon and asked a lot of questions about why it’s taking so long, guy was very nice in his response, this morning got approved. @arjohnson Who did you call? ATF or dealer? |
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Posted: 8/2/2024 2:36:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: tarheel7734]
[#32]
Just got certified and status is submitted. Let's see how long this one takes. Would be really nice if it was less than 5 days this time. Wish mine came back within 24 hours like some.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 8/2/2024 3:12:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JTX23: @arjohnson Who did you call? ATF or dealer? Called ATF, don’t know if calling made a difference but first time I called, asked questions and pointed out that I’m almost double the average wait time according to your website, then next morning got approved. |
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Posted: 8/2/2024 10:43:34 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tarheel7734: Just got certified and status is submitted. Let's see how l9ng this one takes. Would be really nice if it was less than 5 days this time. Wish mine came back within 24 hours like some. Good luck. I'm still waiting on an individual form 4 submitted May 6 and 3 trust form 4s submitted July 3. If I ever get around to listing some stuff on the EE I may have 4 or 5 more form 4s submitted before any of these get approved. |
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Posted: 8/2/2024 10:50:25 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Elvis121: Good luck. I'm still waiting on an individual form 4 submitted May 6 and 3 trust form 4s submitted July 3. If I ever get around to listing some stuff on the EE I may have 4 or 5 more form 4s submitted before any of these get approved. Both my July and May form 4 submissions took 5 days |
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Posted: 8/2/2024 11:09:23 PM EST
[#36]
It is quite strange that you can get a FFL and a SOT much faster than a F4 approval despite there being additional hoops and the same background check.
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Posted: 8/3/2024 1:43:40 AM EST
[#37]
Got my ScytheTi back, 114 days, Form 4 trust. I was hoping the Spectre would come back at the same time, but sadly didn't, its only at 74 days though.
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Posted: 8/3/2024 7:54:30 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By turbobrick: Got my ScytheTi back, 114 days, Form 4 trust. I was hoping the Spectre would come back at the same time, but sadly didn't, its only at 74 days though. They didn't batch approve both? |
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Posted: 8/3/2024 12:55:21 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PointBlank82: They didn't batch approve both? I just got one back at 210 days. My other one is still ticking along at 165 days.
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Posted: 8/3/2024 1:38:50 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mk4dubbin: I just got one back at 210 days. My other one is still ticking along at 165 days. I’d say its time for a call then |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/3/2024 6:59:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: bnc]
[#41]
I've been waiting a month on 2 Form 4s filed at the same time, trust (that I used before 41p days) with 1 RP. I might give them a call next week, but maybe my hopes were a bit skewed from all the reports of near instant approval.
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Posted: 8/3/2024 9:10:28 PM EST
[#42]
Just got my 2 Fat Cat's approved, e-filed with electronic finger prints via SS on a trust on 12/28/23. Approved 7/30/2024. Gotta love feds
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Posted: 8/4/2024 2:00:07 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PointBlank82: They didn't batch approve both? |
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Posted: 8/4/2024 6:54:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By turbobrick: Those lazy bastards did not. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By turbobrick: Originally Posted By PointBlank82: They didn't batch approve both? Man that sucks. I have eight more items certified on my NFA Trust and was hoping they'll get batch approved in a month or two. Maybe the ATF decided to slow roll things again just to be punitive given all the recent rulings against them. |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 8/4/2024 8:15:49 PM EST
[#45]
80 days in on 2 e form 4 individual
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NH, USA
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Posted: 8/4/2024 10:05:46 PM EST
[Last Edit: Praimfiya]
[#46]
Took 6 months for my first suppressor as a single shot trust thru SS.
Took 4 days for my 2nd suppressor as as individual thru SS. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 8/6/2024 8:10:08 PM EST
[#47]
Submitted on 7/5 for my second can. Just hit a month.
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UT, USA
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Posted: 8/6/2024 8:23:05 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JTX23: It is quite strange that you can get a FFL and a SOT much faster than a F4 approval despite there being additional hoops and the same background check. You can't get a ffl and sot in 2 to 5 days. I think it's also safe to assume that the examiners approving form 4s aren't interviewing potential FFL holders and giving them licenses. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 8/6/2024 8:29:35 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By turbobrick: Got my ScytheTi back, 114 days, Form 4 trust. I was hoping the Spectre would come back at the same time, but sadly didn't, its only at 74 days though. Odd, they have been batching like crazy, and they usually get em all. My 3rd customer of the day picked up 13 cans, but they did not approve his 14th. I didn't look how long it had been locked up, but he told me it's been in jail the shortest. F4 umbrella trust. That being said, I'm seeing most trusts come back at 4 months. The single shots seem to be the most consistent (which makes sense). I actually find this impressive seeing as how much work everyone keeps giving them. 
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/6/2024 8:33:34 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bnc: I've been waiting a month on 2 Form 4s filed at the same time, trust (that I used before 41p days) with 1 RP. I might give them a call next week, but maybe my hopes were a bit skewed from all the reports of near instant approval. |
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