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Link Posted: 2/13/2022 7:46:27 PM EDT
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His family happily took the $200+ million from Bezos, so the blame ultimately falls on them.

Amazon has already greenlit five 20 episode seasons, with a billion dollar budget.
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 7:47:02 PM EDT
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Diversity means less no White people.

It is antiwhite propaganda created specifically because it is a piece of European artwork that appeals to White people who see in the work a reflection of the sufferings of their own nations under a Sauron like corruption.
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FIFY.

In a diversity utopia, white people have been eliminated.

Link Posted: 2/13/2022 7:47:51 PM EDT
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Underground dwarves have a lot of pigment?
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 7:48:02 PM EDT
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The comments are fricken' gold....
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The Smallocaust
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The Night of the Really Short Knives


Link Posted: 2/13/2022 7:48:46 PM EDT
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That may change after the ratings tank for the fist shit show.
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 7:54:48 PM EDT
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But they cannot spend a few million dollars to finish the last 3 Expanse books (in a series with one of the most diverse casts ever).
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 7:55:01 PM EDT
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They could have made the show about the East and the blue wizards if they were capable of writing anything.

The show runners only wrote Star Trek Discovery before this.
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Makes sense now.
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 7:55:44 PM EDT
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Makes sense now.
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The show runners only wrote Star Trek Discovery before this.


Makes sense now.


Link Posted: 2/13/2022 7:57:17 PM EDT
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Game of the Rangz

Lord of the Thrones
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 7:58:43 PM EDT
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Return of the Kangz.
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 7:59:55 PM EDT
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Some elves just have more rhythm than others.
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:01:11 PM EDT
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Makes sense now.
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The show runners only wrote Star Trek Discovery before this.


Makes sense now.

Yeah, tells you a lot about the direction of this new LOTR series. Thank God Peter Jackson got to make his movies before the woke revolution killed Hollywood.
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:01:23 PM EDT
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I can't imagine being the type of person who cares about such a thing.
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:01:35 PM EDT
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All that money invested and Amazon apparently couldn’t afford to hire anyone better to be showrunners than these two:

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Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:01:49 PM EDT
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They could have made the show about the East and the blue wizards if they were capable of writing anything.

The show runners only wrote Star Trek Discovery before this.


Makes sense now.


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Star Trek Beyond, my bad. Doesn't really  change much.

I can't stand it, I know you planned it
I'ma set it straight, this Watergate
I can't stand rockin' when I'm in here
'Cause your crystal ball ain't so crystal clear
So while you sit back and wonder why
I got this fuckin' thorn in my side
Oh my god, it's a mirage
I'm tellin' y'all, it's sabotage

Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:05:51 PM EDT
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I've never seen that movie, but it appears ridiculous.   The point stands.
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:10:11 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:10:24 PM EDT
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Who didn’t see this coming?
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:12:04 PM EDT
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The Last Samurai is actually a pretty solid movie and terrible history. Same screenwriter as Gladiator, same problem there. They at least treated the subject with respect (misguided or not).
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:12:30 PM EDT
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Amazon has already been calling fans racist who point out the diversity agenda.  There are videos all over YouTube about it.  The show is going to tank. Amazon is doing the same thing that happened to the Star Wars fan base. Bad-mouthing your target audience for refusing to take a bite of a s**t sandwich is bad business.
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:12:32 PM EDT
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I seriously doubt Tolkien would have ever given his family the rights to his works if he'd known what they were going to do with his life's work.  I sincerely hope that Amazon loses every cent they put into this project.  
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:13:14 PM EDT
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The ocs this time around are going to be white guys in Maga hats.

It's going to Sauron the white wizard of the kkk.


Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:13:59 PM EDT
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But they cannot spend a few million dollars to finish the last 3 Expanse books (in a series with one of the most diverse casts ever).
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But they cannot spend a few million dollars to finish the last 3 Expanse books (in a series with one of the most diverse casts ever).


And which no one ever complained about the diversity, because it's plausible and real, unlike WoT or LotR.



I think we can give The Wiz a pass here.
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:16:16 PM EDT
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That’s like writing a book about violent crime in Baltimore in the now, and making all the characters light skinned.
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:16:17 PM EDT
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The left has to destroy everything that doesn't fit their chosen narrative.
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:16:28 PM EDT
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Like you wouldn't?
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:17:08 PM EDT
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They won't get our money. We've got the 3 LOTR movies and the 3 Hobbit movies.
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:17:38 PM EDT
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If we go by what the guy who actually created that world wrote then something like this:

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5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5...gasp, wheeze, OMG my back hurts! 5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5.5
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:18:52 PM EDT
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So, super gay dudes?
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And here I thought most of the republic characters in Star Wars always looked super gay.
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:19:28 PM EDT
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Gonna be a dumpster fire most likely.

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The black kid on South Park?
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:19:56 PM EDT
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I'm not going to lie.  It's in my top 10.
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:21:08 PM EDT
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Middle Earf
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Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:24:28 PM EDT
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This is now apparently what elves and dwarfs look like in Middle-earth.

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Jackson got it wrong before the current infestation of racism and whinerism in hollywood ... amazon won't do better.

All the signals I have seen point at them utterly defiling the story, wondering why people who really like the story aren't happy and whining about t he evil *ists who don't agree with destroying everything good about the story.

Amazon already hired people to handle on-set sex scenes, they picked the part of the silmarilliion that is one of the darkest in the setting, and the book is think on details. All indicators are that they're going to turn it into a hyper-intersectionalist shove the disgusting in your face perv-gore fest.

Because everything has to be that and clearly that's what tolkein's books were all about.
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:24:29 PM EDT
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The very same.
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:27:48 PM EDT
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The sandwich maker and I just rewatched all of the LOTR movies. I commented to her that it is one of the last great movies of our time. Meaning that there is no way you could make that series again today with the cast that they used.

Not surprised to see they are going to ruin the cast with diversity and inclusiveness.
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:28:37 PM EDT
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Pretty sure they don't get that fat from a diet of leaves and crackers.

Waiting to see the Saving Private Ryan remake with black trannies dancing up Venice beach to liberate Californieurope from the Trumpnazis. Boa feathers flapping in the breeze. Sparkle shrapnel everywhere. It's OK though, noone dies, cuz guns are icky.
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:37:06 PM EDT
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Drow and Dark Iron Dwarves?
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We wuz Elves'n sheet
Link Posted: 2/13/2022 8:39:53 PM EDT
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https://boundingintocomics.com/2022/02/10/amazon-prime-video-uses-vanity-fair-to-attack-critics-of-the-lord-of-the-rings-the-rings-of-power-as-trolls/

Amazon Prime Video Uses Vanity Fair To Attack Critics Of The Lord of The Rings: The Rings Of Power As “Trolls”
John F. Trent
February 10, 2022
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Amazon’s Prime Video appears to be using Vanity Fair to attack The Lord of the Rings fans who have criticized the show for not staying faithful to Tolkien’s original work.
Source: The Lord of the Rings Amazon Original Series

As is expected in this modern era of woke Hollywood, Prime Video’s The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power executive producer Lindsey Weber explained in a puff piece for Vanity Fair the show altered and race swapped multiple characters in order to “reflect what the world actually looks like.”

In the article by Vanity Fair, the outlet reveals the show will include Lenny Henry playing a Harfoot, Sophia Nomvete playing a dwarf princess named Disa, and Ismael Cruz Córdova playing an elf.

Weber explained these casting changes stating, ““It felt only natural to us that an adaptation of Tolkien’s work would reflect what the world actually looks like.”
She argued, “Tolkien is for everyone. His stories are about his fictional races doing their best work when they leave the isolation of their own cultures and come together.”

One would think that when adapting a piece of fiction that has a storied history, one might think it would have been natural to reflect what Tolkien actually wrote rather than “what the world actually looks like.”
It begs the question as why Amazon would even want to adapt Tolkien if they didn’t want to actually reflect what he wrote.

Interestingly, the puff piece by Vanity Fair then paints people who wanted Prime Video to stay true to Tolkien’s work as “trolls.”
Vanity Fair’s Anthony Breznican and Joanna Robinson write, “When Amazon released photos of its multicultural cast, even without character names or plot details, the studio endured a reflexive attack from trolls—the anonymous online kind.”

RELATED: The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power: Prime Video Releases 23 New Posters Highlighting Various Characters
They go on to try and deride the fans by citing a so-called Tolkien scholar named Mariana Rios Maldonado. Maldonado is not a Tolkien scholar, but is rather a PhD student at the University of Glasgow who “is interested in ethics, feminist theory, and encountering the Other in Tolkien’s works.” That sounds like a social justice warrior if there ever was one.
If that didn’t convince you, Maldonado also happens to be “the Equality and Diversity Officer for the University of Glasgow’s Centre for Fantasy and the Fantastic.”

Nevertheless, Vanity Fair, and one suspects Amazon by association, prop up this feminist as a Tolkien scholar to attack their fans.
Maldonado tells Vanity Fair, “Obviously there was going to be push and backlash, but the question is from whom? Who are these people that feel so threatened or disgusted by the idea that an elf is Black or Latino or Asian?”
Well, that’s actual fans of Tolkien’s work who want an adaptation of it to stay true it. What a tough question. And wanting to stay true to the work does not mean you or threatened or disgusted to imply as such shows you what kind of Tolkien scholar this person is, their first thought is to attack people. Sounds like a Tolkien villain named Grima Wormtongue.

Not only does Vanity Fair and by association Amazon Studios attack The Lord of the Rings fans, but they also reveal that the casting changes were cause for fans to be concerned that if you can’t get that right, you won’t get the rest right either.
And that appears to be the case as Vanity Fair reports that showrunners “[JD] Payne and  [Patrick] McKay have compressed events into a single point in time.” That’s right they’ve completely done away with Tolkien’s timeline.
The showrunners explain  their decision, ““If you are true to the exact letter of the law, you are going to be telling a story in which your human characters are dying off every season because you’re jumping 200 years in time, and then you’re not meeting really big, important canon characters until season four. Look, there might be some fans who want us to do a documentary of Middle-earth, but we’re going to tell one story that unites all these things.”

Ironically, Vanity Fair noted how important the timeline and details were to Tolkien earlier in the article when they stated, “These timelines, genealogies, and notes on language and culture became so important to Tolkien that he even stalled the publication of the final book, The Return of the King, to complete them.”
They even quote Tolkien’s letter to Allen & Unwin, the Swedish publishers of The Lord of The Rings, on the importance of the appendices. Vanity Fair noted Tolkien stated, “they play a major part in producing the total effect.”
In the same letter, they also quoted Tolkien writing that the appendices produce “the compelling sense of historical reality.”

In fact, Tolkien wrote, “My chief interest in being translated is pecuniary, as long as the basic text is treated with respect; so that even if the touchiness of parenthood is outraged, I should wish to refrain from doing or saying anything that may damage the good business of being published in other countries. And I have also Messrs. Allen and Unwin to consider. But the matter of the Appendices has a pecuniary aspect.”
He would add, “I do not believe that they give the work a ‘scholarly’ (? read pedantisk) look, and they play a major part in producing the total effect: as Messrs. Gebers’ translator has himself pointed out (selecting the detail and the documentation as two chief ingredients in producing the compelling sense of historical reality).”
Tolkien even noted, “Actually, an analysis of many hundreds of letters shows that the Appendices have played a very large part in reader’s pleasure, in turning library readers into purchasers (since the Appendices are needed for reference), and in creating the demand for another book. A sharp distinction must be drawn between the tastes of reviewers (‘donnish folly’ and all that) and of readers! I think I understand the tastes of simpleminded folk (like myself) pretty well.”

Aside from the attack on The Lord of the Rings fans, maybe the most concerning point of the entire article is Payne and McKay’s pride that they can do Tolkien better than Tolkien.
McKay told Vanity Fair that the driving question behind the show was, “Can we come up with the novel Tolkien never wrote and do it as the mega-event series that could only happen now?”
“We think the work will eventually speak for itself,” Payne would also tell them. “Before an orchestra starts, audiences will talk to each other, but then as soon as the music begins, you’re in and you’re listening to that music.”

The work is speaking for itself already and it is clearly deviating heavily from J.R.R. Tolkien’s appendices and The Silmarillion as many fans suspected when they first made casting announcements.
What do you make of Prime Video and Vanity Fair’s attack on The Lord of the Rings fans who want the show to stay faithful to Tolkien’s work?
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They are using this IP to destroy this ip. We know this, they know we know this, and they continue to do it.

They don't want to give the book a visual adaptation. They want to use it as a surface to plant their ideas onto. The sad irony is, they will be using racism to do it, and they continue to push the idea that if someone doesn't look like you in some completely subjective arbitrary way, you can't relate to them, and they couldn't possibly understand you. Meanwhile, who cares how the books describe the characters and people of a nation. Pfff, just ignore that.
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They are using this IP to destroy this ip. We know this, they know we know this, and they continue to do it.

They don't want to give the book a visual adaptation. They want to use it as a surface to plant their ideas onto. The sad irony is, they will be using racism to do it, and they continue to push the idea that if someone doesn't look like you in some completely subjective arbitrary way, you can't relate to them, and they couldn't possibly understand you.
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Exactly. Just destroying something "we" like / liked. Not just Amazon and not just this series. Even Halo... Yes, lets hire developers to make Halo that hate Halo. Very good idea. It has been very beneficial for the franchise.
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Will they wield their swords sideways?
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Galadriel’s world is a raging sea. Far from the wise, ethereal elven queen that Cate Blanchett brought to Peter Jackson’s acclaimed films, the Galadriel played by Morfydd Clark in Amazon’s upcoming series The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power is thousands of years younger, as angry and brash as she is clever, and certain that evil is looming closer than anyone realizes. By episode two, her warnings set her adrift, literally and figuratively, until she’s struggling for survival on a raft in the storm-swept Sundering Seas alongside a mortal castaway named Halbrand (Charlie Vickers), who is a new character introduced in the show. Galadriel is fighting for the future; Halbrand is running from the past. Their entwined destinies are just two of the stories woven together for a TV series that, if it works, could become a global phenomenon. If it falls short, it could become a cautionary tale for anyone who, to quote J.R.R. Tolkien, delves too greedily and too deep.


Just as Tolkien entrusted his quest to Frodo Baggins and Samwise Gamgee, Amazon chose two unlikely newcomers. McKay and Payne are high school friends from northern Virginia who have been writing in Hollywood together for 13 years. The Rings of Power is their first credited IMDB listing. They know—it’s astounding to them too. “We’ve worked on so many projects with so many awesome and exciting people that never got made or worked on things that did get made and we didn’t get credit,” says McKay. “We were a little bit of a dark horse. And Amazon talked to absolutely everybody—whoever had any idea for Lord of the Rings.” Adds Payne: “We were passionate about the material and had a take that matched Amazon’s appetites and ambition.” They also apparently had a significant champion in J.J. Abrams, who knew them from their writing on a Star Trek movie and reportedly sang their praises.


There was one leak in 2019 that, however innocuous, worried some of those watching from afar. The show’s resident Tolkien scholar—a widely respected academic named Tom Shippey—gave an apparently unsanctioned interview to a German fan site that July, opining on what the show could and could not explore. Not long after that, Shippey was no longer involved with the series. Both he and the showrunners decline to say what exactly happened, but the obvious assumption was made by fans. “It seems like the NDA is basically ‘If you tell anyone, we can put you through a wood chipper,’?” says Drout, the Tolkien professor. Amazon no longer shares the names of its scholars.


After news broke that Amazon had hired an intimacy coordinator for its New Zealand set, some fans feared that the production might have lost sight of what makes Tolkien Tolkien. “My worry would be if it becomes a Game of Thrones in the Second Age,” says Dimitra Fimi, a Tolkien scholar and lecturer at the University of Glasgow. “That wouldn’t be what one would associate with Tolkien’s vision. It would also be derivative.” So will there be Westerosi levels of violence and sex in Amazon’s Middle-earth? In short, no. McKay says the goal was “to make a show for everyone, for kids who are 11, 12, and 13, even though sometimes they might have to pull the blanket up over their eyes if it’s a little too scary. We talked about the tone in Tolkien’s books. This is material that is sometimes scary—and sometimes very intense, sometimes quite political, sometimes quite sophisticated—but it’s also heartwarming and life-affirming and optimistic. It’s about friendship and it’s about brotherhood and underdogs overcoming great darkness.”

Translation: We're going to go pg-13 and push it as close to r-rated as we possibly can.

Speaking of Sauron, the villain’s presence is a major factor throughout the Second Age, culminating in his resurrection as a tyrant. As the show begins, there are only hints of the danger to come. Some see them clearly; others don’t necessarily want to. Bayona drew from his memories growing up in Spain, a country still recovering from a civil war decades before he was born. “We had a dictatorship for 40 years, so you notice the repercussions of war and the shadow of the past,” he says, noting that “Shadow of the Past” is in fact the title of the first episode. “I think this is all about the repercussions of war. There is an idea that feels very faithful to Tolkien, which is intuition. Galadriel has an intuition that things are not fixed, and there is still something lurking.”

In the novels, the aforementioned things take place over thousands of years, but Payne and McKay have compressed events into a single point in time. It is their biggest deviation from the text, and they know it’s a big swing. “We talked with the Tolkien estate,” says Payne. “If you are true to the exact letter of the law, you are going to be telling a story in which your human characters are dying off every season because you’re jumping 200 years in time, and then you’re not meeting really big, important canon characters until season four. Look, there might be some fans who want us to do a documentary of Middle-earth, but we’re going to tell one story that unites all these things.”

There it is. The acorn seed that will grow into the titanic oak tree of changes, changes, everywhere, and not for good reasons, not for story, definitely not to bring the book to visual format.

https://archive.is/20220210193532/https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/02/amazon-the-rings-of-power-series-first-look

It gets tiring to see this repeat over and over.

Off to get EAC and my cds of the silmarillion so I can listen to it again.

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That was actually the plot point for that one.  Good try though.
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They can bastardize it all they want... doesn't mean I have to watch it.  I'll happily just watch the original trilogy or read the books.  No matter how hard they want to they can't erase history lol.
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