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Only 1 photo and it's a common one found on google. Either this seller is like the EE fudds selling $1000s of stuff without pics, or a scammer.
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Quoted: Mig 29s https://www.trade-a-plane.com/search?category_level1=Jets&make=MIKOYAN&model=MIG+29&listing_id=2391481&s-type=aircraft 4x low-time MiG-29s for sale. One MiG-29 UB (2-seat) Fulcrum is flyable and has FAA experimental AW cert and N-number (~820 hrs TTSN), another Fulcrum UB can be made flyable easily (2-seat, ~800 hrs TTSN, must be uncrated & assembled), and two UAs (single seat) are parts birds. Asking $5.6M for all 4 aircraft and parts, $4.5M for each flyable MiG. Includes 4x engines (2 engines still in original sealed shipping containers) 2x Slotback 1 RADARs, 2x IRST systems, hot ejection seats. MX/Flt Logs included, no damage history. Which arfom millionare's gonna ante up on this one? View Quote No second-owner Blackhawks on there? |
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Red flag "rentals?"
I'm guessing the US hired the owner to play the adversary in exercises. Wonder if/why that revenue stream dried up? |
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Thanks for the info. I will get right on that after I bid on Johnny Ramone's Venture Mosrite.
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Would be better if they were F-15s and came with hellfire missiles.
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Does anyone else think it would be a scream to go buzz around the legal limits of the local air guard base with one of these? Or just show up at that big red flag fighter jet exercise and see if anyone notices? It wouldn’t be any fun if you weren’t ruffling feathers.
That and would it be legal to have dummy missiles installed on the pylons? |
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You should probably be part of the "tres commas club" if you want to buy and actually use those.
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That billionaire that flew with SpaceX last week may buy the lot for 5.6m. Would be great additions to his stable of SAABs and F18s.
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Just a quick comment and question here. There have been a few threads here where posters have stated Mig-29 has a poor combat record. Any truth to this?
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Quoted: Just a quick comment and question here. There have been a few threads here where posters have stated Mig-29 has a poor combat record. Any truth to this? View Quote Well the only real combat they saw was outnumbered 100:1 vs the USAF in Desert storm and the balkans. So yeah rather obviously they died. More interestingly the Ex E german ones fought in excercises vs vipers and f18s and did quite well. |
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Quoted: Well the only real combat they saw was outnumbered 100:1 vs the USAF in Desert storm and the balkans. So yeah rather obviously they died. More interestingly the Ex E german ones fought in excercises vs vipers and f18s and did quite well. View Quote Back before we had the 9X, their AA11 Archer was wicked. |
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That site has a really good looking mostly complete Mig21 that’s been hanger lepta for 20yrs for $39,000 that’s cool.
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If I won a big lottery, I'd go I to tank and fighter jet restoration.
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I’ve seen the AirUSA 2 Mig-29s a couple times land for fuel on the other end of their range at out local airport. Very distinctive engine sound.
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Quoted: Well the only real combat they saw was outnumbered 100:1 vs the USAF in Desert storm and the balkans. So yeah rather obviously they died. More interestingly the Ex E german ones fought in excercises vs vipers and f18s and did quite well. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Just a quick comment and question here. There have been a few threads here where posters have stated Mig-29 has a poor combat record. Any truth to this? Well the only real combat they saw was outnumbered 100:1 vs the USAF in Desert storm and the balkans. So yeah rather obviously they died. More interestingly the Ex E german ones fought in excercises vs vipers and f18s and did quite well. East Germany was a scary Warsaw Pact opponent if shit ever turned sideways back then, methinks. I'm talking ground forces as well. It has also been said that East Germany was probably USSR's most loyal ally. |
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Quoted: When the Soviet Union broke up, they were for sale @ $100k each with 2 spare crated engines. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: how tf do you even buy stuff like that in the first place lol. Mig 29s weren't as they were fairly new at the time. But Mig 21s could be found for that. |
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Quoted: Probably about a grand an hour to fly it. View Quote Waaayyyyy more. A Bell Jet Ranger helicopter is around $1500 and that involves easy to find parts for your maintenance program and nowhere near the fuel burn. On top of that, you would essentially need full time maintainers just like the Russian airforce had. |
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Quoted: I bet it would be $10k an hour or damn close to it. Maintenance costs on those are going to be astronomical. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I agree. Just how much cash would it set you back to fly one of those things for an hour. Anyone know? I bet it would be $10k an hour or damn close to it. Maintenance costs on those are going to be astronomical. $10k is a pretty good guess. That's what NASA used to pay per flight hour for their leased F-104 time back in the late 90's. That was an all in number back then including paying the pilot, some markup for overhead, and some profit. |
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Thinking about it, if I had MIG-29 money, I'd waste it to force a Form 1 DD surface to air missile on the ATF.
Actually building one with some discrimination as to most jamming sources is possible with UV sensing and an excess of the shelf processing power. The pain is having to sue them to force it, and possibly failing. |
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We have 2 or 3 L-39s parked at the Quincy IL airport. ???? Kirlin restores / rebuilds them leases them back to DOD for training.
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Quoted: Thinking about it, if I had MIG-29 money, I'd waste it to force a Form 1 DD surface to air missile on the ATF. Actually building one with some discrimination as to most jamming sources is possible with UV sensing and an excess of the shelf processing power. The pain is having to sue them to force it, and possibly failing. View Quote Bruh, if you have MiG-29 money.... you pay other people to sue them for you and possibly fail. Either way, you don't give a fuck because you're going to fly at lunch and go get that $12,000 hamburger. |
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Quoted: Probably about a grand an hour to fly it. View Quote You need a lot of educating about fighter jet operating costs. It cost over $5k/hr to operate a Phantom 30 years ago. Today an F-18E/F, the most similar US fighter to a Mig-29 costs over $11k/hr to operate and projected costs go up to $32k/hr. |
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Quoted: You need a lot of educating about fighter jet operating costs. It cost over $5k/hr to operate a Phantom 30 years ago. Today an F-18E/F, the most similar US fighter to a Mig-29 costs over $11k/hr to operate and projected costs go up to $32k/hr. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Probably about a grand an hour to fly it. You need a lot of educating about fighter jet operating costs. It cost over $5k/hr to operate a Phantom 30 years ago. Today an F-18E/F, the most similar US fighter to a Mig-29 costs over $11k/hr to operate and projected costs go up to $32k/hr. Yup, I'm a poor dude. I can't afford it. |
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Quoted: I'm rich enough to afford a Google search for fighter operating costs to tell me I'm really poor. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Yup, I'm a poor dude. I can't afford it. I'm rich enough to afford a Google search for fighter operating costs to tell me I'm really poor. Well maybe I didn't think to Google it. Break my balls.... |
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