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Posted: 1/10/2019 11:55:41 PM EDT
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I had 90k last year through my usp. It works fine
Would recommend . 10 out 10. Would purchase again |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 12:01:13 AM EDT
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It's a duty gun. Trigger's... Bleugh. But it works.
USP9 Stainless is absolutely gorgeous.  Full size uses polymer P8 magazines. They're very light, and pretty good for the most part, but tend to still be expensive.
The USP compact is much more ergonomic due to the smaller grip; however, it uses a different magazine, the same one as the P2000, IIRC. The USP9 feels much better in the hand than the USP45 for some reason, even though the outward grip dimensions are very similar. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 12:01:58 AM EDT
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THE only reason to not buy a USP is the gay proprietary rail.
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Posted: 1/11/2019 12:20:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/11/2019 1:36:13 AM EDT
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THE only reason to not buy a USP is the gay proprietary rail. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 1:42:03 AM EDT
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It was the first rail on a pistol, before the proprietary one on the Glock. The HK45/P30 are updated with 1913 rails, if you want the modern attachment method. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 1/11/2019 2:24:23 AM EDT
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Quoted: It was the first rail on a pistol, before the proprietary one on the Glock. The HK45/P30 are updated with 1913 rails, if you want the modern attachment method. Quoted: There is also the GG&G rail adaptor for the full size and compact. Holsters are a bitch for any usp with a light though. New one works with surefire x300s and XC1 in addition to the TLR. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 2:54:08 AM EDT
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Like a lot of pistols with the notable exception of Glocks, USP's do use some roll pins and roll pins suck.
But unlike most of those non-Glock pistols, they're also kind of awesome, so it more than balances out. Primary reason not to go with one is cost; if you need one handgun, you usually actually need a few handguns and a pile of parts and mags for them. If the choice is between one 1 USP and some mags and springs and 3 Glocks and some mags and springs and that is your entire budget, then it's an easy decision. If you can afford 3 USP's and mags and springs... then that's entirely different. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 8:41:47 AM EDT
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The Double Action is definitely tough. However that's how DA is supposed to be. And you can live your entire life never using DA and only using SA. It was designed to be carried safely in Single action, with the safety on. Yeah it's a non factor. If you hate the Doubke action, don't use it. The USP can be used in many ways. Nobody is pointing a gun to your head saying you must use the DA trigger. Link The S is the safety frame. V3 is the DA/SA decocker. You can get a V3 in a safety frame, but that defeats the purpose of the DA mode. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 8:45:54 AM EDT
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Buy with confidence, op. The only real downside is that they multiply like gremlins..... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/112774/20181013_203812_jpg-803100.JPG 
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Posted: 1/11/2019 8:57:00 AM EDT
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Its the mall ninja pistol of choice for a reason: its fatness makes you look less fat.
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Posted: 1/11/2019 8:57:07 AM EDT
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I had 90k last year through my usp. It works fine Would recommend . 10 out 10. Would purchase again |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 8:59:27 AM EDT
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It was the first rail on a pistol, before the proprietary one on the Glock. The HK45/P30 are updated with 1913 rails, if you want the modern attachment method. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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THE only reason to not buy a USP is the gay proprietary rail. I like the Universl rail. I think the gun looks more cool than if it had a 1913 rail. And you can an get adapter for it anyway. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 9:38:12 AM EDT
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I had 90k last year through my usp. It works fine Would recommend . 10 out 10. Would purchase again If I understand your post correctly, you fired 90,000 rounds through a USP last year? The same gun? That is damn impressive. Which model USP exactly? What year was it made? What is the total round count through the pistol? Did you have to replace any springs? |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 9:41:01 AM EDT
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Like a lot of pistols with the notable exception of Glocks, USP's do use some roll pins and roll pins suck. But unlike most of those non-Glock pistols, they're also kind of awesome, so it more than balances out. Primary reason not to go with one is cost; if you need one handgun, you usually actually need a few handguns and a pile of parts and mags for them. If the choice is between one 1 USP and some mags and springs and 3 Glocks and some mags and springs and that is your entire budget, then it's an easy decision. If you can afford 3 USP's and mags and springs... then that's entirely different. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 1:02:14 PM EDT
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@Dboy11 If I understand your post correctly, you fired 90,000 rounds through a USP last year? The same gun? That is damn impressive. Which model USP exactly? What year was it made? What is the total round count through the pistol? Did you have to replace any springs? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I had 90k last year through my usp. It works fine Would recommend . 10 out 10. Would purchase again If I understand your post correctly, you fired 90,000 rounds through a USP last year? The same gun? That is damn impressive. Which model USP exactly? What year was it made? What is the total round count through the pistol? Did you have to replace any springs? It had like 5 FTF in that time frame and needed springs etc. They were going to keep going not sure if they did. At 90k the pistol got sent in for a repair I don’t remember what for. That’s like $20k in ammo The USP is a classic the P30 is a more than capable replacement with better ergos. The USP is love hate with some but rarely is there a complaint about it. If anything the It May be the trigger. The LEM is awesome as well as the SA. I personally hate DA/SA. For those striker guys there is the VP9. The whole VP9 is not as well made is BS. I own all the above so take that as you like |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 1:10:51 PM EDT
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Compare a USP to a striker fire Walther PPQ. Night and day. The USP's even with the updated match triggers leave something to be desired. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 1:17:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a documented P30 that was at 90k It had like 5 FTF in that time frame and needed springs etc. They were going to keep going not sure if they did. At 90k the pistol got sent in for a repair I don’t remember what for. That’s like $20k in ammo The USP is a classic the P30 is a more than capable replacement with better ergos. The USP is love hate with some but rarely is there a complaint about it. If anything the It May be the trigger. The LEM is awesome as well as the SA. I personally hate DA/SA. For those striker guys there is the VP9. The whole VP9 is not as well made is BS. I own all the above so take that as you like I don't think I have ever had a malfunction from an H&K pistol. I doubt, however, that I will ever get one to 90k rounds unless someone else is buying the ammo or components. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 1:34:06 PM EDT
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I think one of mine might be preggo. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/31717/HK_Family-694704.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Buy with confidence, op. The only real downside is that they multiply like gremlins..... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/112774/20181013_203812_jpg-803100.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/31717/HK_Family-694704.jpg 
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Posted: 1/11/2019 5:41:19 PM EDT
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All this USP talk reminded me I need to pick a few extra mags up for mine.
So I did |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 5:47:50 PM EDT
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Been carrying a USPc with an LEM trigger for years. If there's a higher-quality pistol out there, I'd like to see it.
I installed a "light LEM" trigger kit, and am very happy with it. I've even successfully hunted deer with it. I looked into having the slide milled for a red dot sight, but was told there's not enough meat in it. That's the only downside that I can think of. Just counted, I have 21 mags. Guess I got a little carried away during the last high-capacity scare... |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 6:08:20 PM EDT
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Bud, with the exception of the VP pistols, HK SUCKS! The USP’s are blocky, expensive, antiques! They weren’t any good when they came out! Buy a Glock, get it over with. Superior to ANY HK handgun!
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Posted: 1/11/2019 6:10:28 PM EDT
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Bud, with the exception of the VP pistols, HK SUCKS! The USP’s are blocky, expensive, antiques! They weren’t any good when they came out! Buy a Glock, get it over with. Superior to ANY HK handgun! 
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Posted: 1/11/2019 6:11:40 PM EDT
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Bud, with the exception of the VP pistols, HK SUCKS! The USP’s are blocky, expensive, antiques! They weren’t any good when they came out! Buy a Glock, get it over with. Superior to ANY HK handgun! |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 6:32:29 PM EDT
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Bud, with the exception of the VP pistols, HK SUCKS! The USP’s are blocky, expensive, antiques! They weren’t any good when they came out! Buy a Glock, get it over with. Superior to ANY HK handgun! |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 7:04:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ckxx try here they don’t show out of stock like most http://allstatepolice.com/216169R-Match-Trigger-Kit-fullsize-USP-only-AllState-Police |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 7:33:48 PM EDT
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OOS. The guy said he hasn't seen any in 9+ months. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Ckxx try here they don’t show out of stock like most http://allstatepolice.com/216169R-Match-Trigger-Kit-fullsize-USP-only-AllState-Police I went out and shot my USP45 today and I need to convert it to LEM. It's a DA/SA with the thumb safety. I carry it cocked and locked but tried the DA today. I really hate a DA trigger and this one is no exception. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 8:07:05 PM EDT
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Bud, with the exception of the VP pistols, HK SUCKS! The USP's are blocky, expensive, antiques! They weren't any good when they came out! Buy a Glock, get it over with. Superior to ANY HK handgun! LOL |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 8:13:50 PM EDT
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https://i.imgur.com/JniNRvf.jpg (Word to the wise; STI mags don't care for flat-nose S&B 10mm bullets, unless there's some trick to make them raise their nose more reliably while feeding upward) Maybe put it in the HK handgun section.
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Posted: 1/11/2019 8:20:42 PM EDT
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Comparing a Glock to an HK USP is like comparing a Toyota Camry to a Mercedes SL. Sure the Toyota is reliable but don't give me that "superior" shit. LOL Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bud, with the exception of the VP pistols, HK SUCKS! The USP's are blocky, expensive, antiques! They weren't any good when they came out! Buy a Glock, get it over with. Superior to ANY HK handgun! LOL Wilson Combat EDC X9, that's a Mercedes SL. Nighthawk is a BMW 7 series. USP vs Glock is |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 8:38:49 PM EDT
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Exaggerate much? The USP is no better made than a Glock. Both are polymer service pistols, neither are hand fitted at all, both make extensive use of MIM, and both are typically reliable out of the box (USP 45 mag springs not so much). USPs are NOT expensive or exclusive in any way, they're $700-$800 plastic pistols that offer no tangible benefits over a typical $500 Glock or M&P. Wilson Combat EDC X9, that's a Mercedes SL. Nighthawk is a BMW 7 series. USP vs Glock is Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bud, with the exception of the VP pistols, HK SUCKS! The USP's are blocky, expensive, antiques! They weren't any good when they came out! Buy a Glock, get it over with. Superior to ANY HK handgun! LOL Wilson Combat EDC X9, that's a Mercedes SL. Nighthawk is a BMW 7 series. USP vs Glock is And each pistol has to go to 2 different Proof Houses to be tested in Germany. It damn sure gets alot more QC checks than any Glock. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 8:49:45 PM EDT
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USPs can be had for 500 bucks. And each pistol has to go to 2 different Proof Houses to be tested in Germany. It damn sure gets alot more QC checks than any Glock. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Bud, with the exception of the VP pistols, HK SUCKS! The USP's are blocky, expensive, antiques! They weren't any good when they came out! Buy a Glock, get it over with. Superior to ANY HK handgun! LOL Wilson Combat EDC X9, that's a Mercedes SL. Nighthawk is a BMW 7 series. USP vs Glock is And each pistol has to go to 2 different Proof Houses to be tested in Germany. It damn sure gets alot more QC checks than any Glock. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 8:56:23 PM EDT
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Bud, with the exception of the VP pistols, HK SUCKS! The USP’s are blocky, expensive, antiques! They weren’t any good when they came out! Buy a Glock, get it over with. Superior to ANY HK handgun! 
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Posted: 1/11/2019 8:58:55 PM EDT
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Can you go more in depth with that conversion? The deal with the mag especially. Maybe put it in the HK handgun section. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://i.imgur.com/JniNRvf.jpg (Word to the wise; STI mags don't care for flat-nose S&B 10mm bullets, unless there's some trick to make them raise their nose more reliably while feeding upward) Maybe put it in the HK handgun section. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 9:00:10 PM EDT
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Bud, with the exception of the VP pistols, HK SUCKS! The USP's are blocky, expensive, antiques! They weren't any good when they came out! Buy a Glock, get it over with. Superior to ANY HK handgun! LOL Wilson Combat EDC X9, that's a Mercedes SL. Nighthawk is a BMW 7 series. USP vs Glock is And each pistol has to go to 2 different Proof Houses to be tested in Germany. It damn sure gets alot more QC checks than any Glock. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 9:13:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Man I tried. I went out and shot my USP45 today and I need to convert it to LEM. It's a DA/SA with the thumb safety. I carry it cocked and locked but tried the DA today. I really hate a DA trigger and this one is no exception. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 9:21:09 PM EDT
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My carry P30sk and my nightstand P30l are both LEM. All my USP’s will be converted at some point. The 45 is the only one that gets carried regularly. I carry in a chest rig with .45 super around my property,woods tractor etc
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Posted: 1/11/2019 9:22:52 PM EDT
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I sent my two USP’s to Bill Springfield. Both triggers are now much better.
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Posted: 1/11/2019 9:25:15 PM EDT
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I love to hear complaints by "Men" about how the HK USP is too big.
My old lady is 5'2" 130 lbs and absolutely loves shooting my USP .45 Tactical and has zero problems handling it; whatsoever.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 9:33:38 PM EDT
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USP are great guns. Rail accessories are a little tough though.
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Posted: 1/11/2019 9:56:35 PM EDT
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Too broad a question.
There is a difference between a USPc9 and a USPT45. A lot. There are a lot of USPs and they are all made for a specific use. So if someone were to compare a USPc9 with an LEM to a G26, that would be a fair comparison. For $1000, name me something as rugged, reliable and accurate than a USPT45. Name me a better value than a police trade in USP 40 for $400. No reason not to buy a USP. At all. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 10:06:56 PM EDT
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Too broad a question. There is a difference between a USPc9 and a USPT45. A lot. There are a lot of USPs and they are all made for a specific use. So if someone were to compare a USPc9 with an LEM to a G26, that would be a fair comparison. For $1000, name me something as rugged, reliable and accurate than a USPT45. Name me a better value than a police trade in USP 40 for $400. No reason not to buy a USP. At all. Glock 23 police trade for less than $400. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 10:10:11 PM EDT
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For $1000, name me something as rugged, reliable and accurate than a USPT45. No reason not to buy a USP. At all. Hickok45 in his USP video talks about meeting 5th Group guys out of Fort Campbell Kentucky. Saying they all really like the USP. |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 10:14:35 PM EDT
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Sorry, I saw this and realized that I said that incorrectly. That is 90k in the past 4 years total.
I shot some matches with it, but my neighbor and I shoot throughout the week too. I have not replaced a single thing, and often times laugh as I am just seeing how long it will go at this point. Trigger isn’t the best, it’s combat Tupperware for dudes with midget hands (thanks to that wonderful location for the mag release) You do get used to the takeup, and it breaks clean, it’s just a lot of real estate to cover that takes some practice I shoot my Wilson’s often now, mixed with a p30, but some days, it’s like sliding that old pair of boots on, damn if it just doesn’t fit right. It’s more accurate than me, and most cleanings consist of whatever stuff is in the toolbox of my truck that day. It’s got scuffs and marks, scratches and some worn checkering on the grip, The trigger pull, atleast the length of pull, is as long as the Golden Gate Bridge, and the paint wore off the sights so now it sports the last color of yellow flourescent paint that I used to mark some water lines. And yet, it is still the first one I grab LOL |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 10:24:45 PM EDT
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@nightdh
 A History of the HK USP OP, you should watch this. Glock is just as good as a USP.  That's as dumb as the old arguments that Bushmaster was as good as Colt.
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Posted: 1/11/2019 10:30:15 PM EDT
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Glock 21, 10 extra mags and a case of ammo. My preference would be to spend a tad bit more for a Dan Wesson 1911. $1k for a mass produced polymer pistol? No way. Glock 23 police trade for less than $400. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Too broad a question. There is a difference between a USPc9 and a USPT45. A lot. There are a lot of USPs and they are all made for a specific use. So if someone were to compare a USPc9 with an LEM to a G26, that would be a fair comparison. For $1000, name me something as rugged, reliable and accurate than a USPT45. Name me a better value than a police trade in USP 40 for $400. No reason not to buy a USP. At all. Glock 23 police trade for less than $400. ETA: Can the Glock 21 do 45 Super out of the box? |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 10:44:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You do realize you'd have to install suppressor sights on that Glock and a threaded barrel to get to the same point as the USPT, right? Isn't exactly a fair comparison, to do a stripped down model to a fully loaded, in the terms of price. ETA: Can the Glock 21 do 45 Super out of the box? |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 10:52:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought that was my P89DC? My very first gun.  DSC_0360-P89DC by FredMan, on Flickr
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Posted: 1/11/2019 10:52:40 PM EDT
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It's recommended to use a heavier recoil spring, so for $8, yes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You do realize you'd have to install suppressor sights on that Glock and a threaded barrel to get to the same point as the USPT, right? Isn't exactly a fair comparison, to do a stripped down model to a fully loaded, in the terms of price. ETA: Can the Glock 21 do 45 Super out of the box? |
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Posted: 1/11/2019 11:21:53 PM EDT
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@nightdh  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5ZbFh3jW8g
OP, you should watch this. Glock is just as good as a USP. That's as dumb as the old arguments that Bushmaster was as good as Colt.Thank you for all the info. |
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