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It seems the trend moves to smooth except where you need it. Resale value is probably low? View Quote Personally I cant stand mlok. I like keymod better out of the two. |
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My go to rifle has a DD quad. Just bought a fn 20' upper with a quad from kac. I'm a big quad guy.
When I go to the dinner I get a quad order of browns with two eggs and ketchup I'm a through and through quad guy. |
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I sold mine to one of my friends. 12.5" YHM Diamond rail with a government profile barrel. It was heavy and obsolete but I still kind of miss it
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In reality, a plastic hand guard is all 99+% of us really need. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I was happy as anything when DD started making the smooth MFR's. Quad rails got demoted to .22 AR duty. Glad to be rid of the cheese grater stuff.
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I just put a Centurion C4 carbine cutout rail on a rifle last week and it is lighter than the Colt M4 plastic handguards that it replaced .
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Mine are still kickin'.
I just ordered a BCM QRF 7" to put on a 6920. It's half the weight of the RISII that's on it now. Did Keymod and MLOK, I'm sticking with quads and plastic double heat shield Colts. Attached File |
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Free floated mlok/keymod rails tend to be easier (and therefor cheaper) to manufacture than quad rails, since you can start out with a smaller piece of metal that spends less time in the CNC machine.
And being lighter and smoother is obviously also nice. For a standard issue rifle for a police department or military where it keeps getting turned into an armory and re-issued to different people who keep removing and adding different attachments to it in different configurations, I think quad rails make more sense. Installing/uninstalling stuff on a quad rail is much more idiot-proof than on mlok. But for a civilian customer who attaches their stuff on the rail the way they want it once and rarely or never changes it, I think mlok/keymod makes a little more sense. Then again, even as a civilian I do like the idea of not needing to have an allen wrench to install anything on my rail. Being able to set stuff up with a flathead or even a lever like on some of LaRue's mounts would be cool. |
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More Quads,,DD 15",,Magpul XTM,,easy on off of accessories,,lights,bipod PEQhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/29829/IMG_20200217_193205351_jpg-1280528.JPG View Quote |
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Quads are for boomer fudds, poors, and gays.
Don’t be the only guy in the stack with a quad rail. Team won’t let you shower with them after ops. |
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So this is the thread I can score some quad rails y’all plan to throw away??
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op doesnt have nightvision. get nightvision and youll love quad rails again. View Quote Attached File |
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They still get the job done, pick what you like and roll with it
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I think they’re just fine. MLOK is pretty good too although I attach sections of Picatinny where I need them and rarely actually use MLOK attachments.
The only one I don’t like, and have removed, it keymod...I just hate the look. After covering it completely with rail covers, it’s thick and heavy. |
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I agree with the move to slick sides and adding pic sections at 3-6-12 only where needed but I think threaded solutions as done by LMT, Colt, LWRC, SIG, Geissele Mk1, etc. were the answer. I absolutely fucking revile MLOK and don't understand why people like it. I'd rather have a quadrail. I divested myself of the last of my MLOK products last year and have unified onto either pic or threaded pic sections on everything. Never liked KeyMod. I tried to like MLOK, I really did, but it's like taking a step backward solely because everyone else is doing it. I'm not doing it anymore, I'm out. View Quote |
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Prefer quad for strength or the dicks for convenience, but to each his own. Not mad that there are more options.
But the market seems to think that the average AR buyer has soft, baby sized hand that need smooth, tiny rails, and lacks the upper body strength to handle the extra 4 ounces of weight. |
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Quoted: They already have gone somewhere. They used to be the go-to, now they are tier-2 "well I won't get rid of mine (because with a few exceptions they are worth very little on the open market) but I'm not buying any new ones" for most people. View Quote |
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I'm thinking about non drop in. but I can see that being an issue. I have a similar issue with the thorntail everywhere though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My DD Omega is just a tad too slim IMHO. When I tried using my Thorntail adapter, the SF Scout light wouldn't clear the front hand guard cap. On the other hand, my Troy drop in quad rail worked just fine, but is significantly fatter across the horizontal plane than the Omega. |
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Yet they are still readily available options from virtually every manufacturer. So it seems like they havent gone any where to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: They already have gone somewhere. They used to be the go-to, now they are tier-2 "well I won't get rid of mine (because with a few exceptions they are worth very little on the open market) but I'm not buying any new ones" for most people. DD has pared down their quad lineup pretty significantly over the past few years, same for KAC. Only new “mainstream” quad rail design I can think of is the QRF. I don’t think they’ll ever go away completely, but when .mil begins switching over to something more modular, I think their market share will start sinking like a rock. The civilian market has started moving on and without there being a potential .gov purchaser, there isn’t much incentive to update and modernize current designs, let alone continue producing them in the numbers they currently do. It’s pretty telling of the times to come when you examine what’s being sold on the majority of new rifles, and that’s modular. |
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I like the newer minimalist rails. This one is a MI gen 3 flat top. It’s stupid light. And I love it. https://i.postimg.cc/05t6rwyR/B3639-B06-EBF4-4-FBA-93-B3-E91-C5326-AA89.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/4yFn0rSN/C721-E04-C-9964-432-D-9-C2-A-D2742-F3-DC960.jpg But my favorite build was my sopmod ish clone 14.5 with the kac quad rail. It just handled really well . I miss it. Pics are weirdly cropped because photobucket decided to choke on a giant cock.... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427508/57F41E88-03C5-4E13-8996-FB1F37FEBE07_jpe-1280570.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427508/E3887D03-3680-449A-84A7-2FC402594C4D_jpe-1280572.JPG View Quote |
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I love the people that buy rails all the way to the muzzle and then just cover them all up with rail covers because that is what they saw other people doing on IG.
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I've got them on rifles I use primarily on bipods. For guns I hold I tend to have thin MLOKs and cheapo Railscales I can get a good grip on.
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Mk18 RIS II rails still probably cost one of your testicles. I would love a Mk18 build personally.
I always wanted the quad rail from Transformers 3 for my ACR but those were custom made and would cost a shitload to reproduce, so I'll never get one. I'm still using the polymer handguard. Other than to replicate those two rifles, I have no real desire for a quad rail. |
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I still have a few rifles with quad rails, and even have an extra YHM 9" sitting in the parts bin for the next build.
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Lets them LARP as Costa doing his stiff arm grip thing. lol
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it's like you couldn't afford the full railed model, so you cheaped out and got the ones that are partly railed in places that might actually be used. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
it's like you couldn't afford the full railed model, so you cheaped out and got the ones that are partly railed in places that might actually be used. |
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If anyone wants to donate their quad rails to me send me a pm. Check fleabay for Knights quads, you’ll be surprised.
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My first AR, an M4 inspired build, and an m16a4 Inspired build both have quad rails. My 10.5 pistol and dedicated .22 AR both have Mlok rails. I think Mlok is the way of the future, but i still like my quads on those guns.
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Thin Aluminum bends. Thin holes in aluminum with stuff bolted threw them will deform the thin holes.
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They still work as well as the first day they were invented.
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I'm pretty sure I could cut a tree down with my first build......
Probably the only part of the gun that would make a decent melee weapon. |
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Their fade into obscurity will be a lot slower than Keymod, IMO, just because so many manufacturers have already invested into numerous models, but it’s slowly happening. DD has pared down their quad lineup pretty significantly over the past few years, same for KAC. Only new “mainstream” quad rail design I can think of is the QRF. I don’t think they’ll ever go away completely, but when .mil begins switching over to something more modular, I think their market share will start sinking like a rock. The civilian market has started moving on and without there being a potential .gov purchaser, there isn’t much incentive to update and modernize current designs, let alone continue producing them in the numbers they currently do. It’s pretty telling of the times to come when you examine what’s being sold on the majority of new rifles, and that’s modular. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: They already have gone somewhere. They used to be the go-to, now they are tier-2 "well I won't get rid of mine (because with a few exceptions they are worth very little on the open market) but I'm not buying any new ones" for most people. DD has pared down their quad lineup pretty significantly over the past few years, same for KAC. Only new “mainstream” quad rail design I can think of is the QRF. I don’t think they’ll ever go away completely, but when .mil begins switching over to something more modular, I think their market share will start sinking like a rock. The civilian market has started moving on and without there being a potential .gov purchaser, there isn’t much incentive to update and modernize current designs, let alone continue producing them in the numbers they currently do. It’s pretty telling of the times to come when you examine what’s being sold on the majority of new rifles, and that’s modular. But you can argue it has already happened on the civilian side. Most new factory ARs come with MLOK rails. Since they're cheaper (or should be) it is a no brainer why the switch has happened if for higher margins than anything. |
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