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What really makes me wonder sometimes is people who substitute pets for children. I don't care if you want kids or not, but pets are not people. View Quote |
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Quoted: Am I the father? No? I don't recall making it with a white gorilla...but there was that one time we got drunk and snuck into the zoo, so....Send me a picture of the kid.... View Quote |
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Quoted: People who dont have kids should not be allowed to vote/ hold office, they have no stake in the future, so they should have no say in it. View Quote |
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Terrible point. First a non-sequitur, and also not true. Because they have a stake in all the future from now until they die, which is all you have as well, kids or not. Your involvement ends when you die.
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Yeah I might have considered it if my friends and former co-workers with kids would have stopped constantly complaining about what a burden their kids were. View Quote Then it's like pulling a string on a chatty doll, except this one is full of cliches. "Oh marriage/kids is wonderful, it's the best. You should get some too, it's so rich and vibrant." It's all bullshit. It's brain chemistry. When they are complaining, that's frontal cortex and rational thought. When they are spouting the other stuff, that's dopamine and oxytocin on the lizard brain. The anger is them trying to reconcile incompatibles without sounding silly even to themselves. |
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Quoted: Culture, not copulation is the issue..... View Quote Immigration of third world parasite farmers is the issue. |
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Quoted: Well the two posts I quoted suggested that low birth rates were the bane of civilized society. I was simply demonstrating that high birth rates were not an indication of a healthy society. Quite the opposite actually if we look at the present trends. The only places with growing birth rates are third world shitholes. Civilized, post industrial societies all have decreasing birth rates. Immigration of third world parasite farmers is the issue. View Quote |
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Fake well to do conservatives on here.
Wouldn't surprise me if half voted for Obama for free healthcare. I mean have you seen their mom's basement? |
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I know a couple of couples who don't want children. They've likely put more thought into that decision than anyone I know who does have children. If only we could get more of the socialists to stop breeding. View Quote |
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If we don't judge people on the choices they make.....What exactly are we supposed to judge them on? Their God given looks? Oh, I know, how they "feel" about things maybe? There is nothing BETTER to judge people on than THEIR CHOICES IN LIFE! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Having children or not is a choice made between partners. Judging people based on their choice is ridiculous. That is between them and nobody else's business. There is nothing BETTER to judge people on than THEIR CHOICES IN LIFE! |
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Bingo it's this. They just want more money to themselves. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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On an individual level, it should go without saying that it's your life to live as you choose. Anyone who says otherwise can fuck right off. My wife and I had one child, so we failed to even replace ourselves and are therefore contributing to the diminishing demographic and cultural dominance our kind once enjoyed. Whether or not that's a net positive or negative for the rest of the world is pretty subjective stuff.
On a societal/cultural level, the dangers of failing to maintain or grow your population should be pretty self evident. As mentioned above, Germany (and much of the EU) are experiencing negative population growth. To keep their economy running, they need immigrants. Those immigrants, by definition, are not culturally German. So German culture is diluted/diminished/pick-your-favorite-word as immigrants make up a growing segment of the population. Demographics really are destiny, and if you happen to enjoy your enlightened, liberal (in the classic sense, a society that values personal liberty) Western society... You know what you have to do. |
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The choices that people make in conducting their private, personal lives are rarely of any concern to me. I'm still not getting why other peoples' childbearing decisions matter to the person who started this thread. I am unswayed by the "moral imperative" and "preserving our precious way of life" arguments because those matters don't require the breeding of every able-bodied couple. View Quote |
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I hear this one a lot as welll,.. who will take care of you when your old?... My worst effing nightmare is forcing some poor soul to clean me, wipe my ass, help me do mundane tasks, I would never ever burdon someone with those things. When I'm to old to feed myself or wipe my own ass I will die a dignified death, if I make it that long. I know some people can't wrap their heads around this, but I like being alone, other people annoy me, I don't want them around...at all...period. It's not because I'm angry, or sad, or psycotic, or whatever, I'm super happy and love life,..as long as I don't have to put up with other people. View Quote |
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The doc let you get snipped at 23 with no kids? I didn't think they'd do that. Edit: I'm in no way trying to be insulting. Just curious View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Serious question: Do those of you with small children honestly expect your kids to have a better life than you have had? I ask that because (in my opinion), fathers for many generations have believed their kids could have a better life. Which is one of the many reasons we don't have children. . . View Quote I see no reason why they couldn't have a better life than me as long a they make good choices (it's my job to teach them how to make good choices). Why do you think current kids can't have a better life than their parents? It's not like we are going to turn into Ugunda in 20 years. |
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We should “elect” officals based on how many children a woman has. More children = more of a stake = higher office. It would be all women since men can fuck and run but moms and grandmas care for the babies. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: People who dont have kids should not be allowed to vote/ hold office, they have no stake in the future, so they should have no say in it. |
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These threads are always good entertainment.
Bolsheviks vs Breeders, round 10. |
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The 'point' about breeding more conservatives isn't much of one in my mind. How can you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that your children will grow up to have the same political views that you do? Kids are their own people, not your xerox clones.
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The 'point' about breeding more conservatives isn't much of one in my mind. How can you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that your children will grow up to have the same political views that you do? Kids are their own people, not your xerox clones. View Quote "Oh, there is a 10% chance my kids could become liberal. Better give up now." I'm pretty much when I hear the particular complaint that they might grow up to be liberal. |
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All my married friends are exactly the same. Complain and moan, until you pipe up with, "Yeah, I'm glad i didn't get married/have children." Then it's like pulling a string on a chatty doll, except this one is full of cliches. "Oh marriage/kids is wonderful, it's the best. You should get some too, it's so rich and vibrant." It's all bullshit. It's brain chemistry. When they are complaining, that's frontal cortex and rational thought. When they are spouting the other stuff, that's dopamine and oxytocin on the lizard brain. The anger is them trying to reconcile incompatibles without sounding silly even to themselves. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Yeah I might have considered it if my friends and former co-workers with kids would have stopped constantly complaining about what a burden their kids were. Then it's like pulling a string on a chatty doll, except this one is full of cliches. "Oh marriage/kids is wonderful, it's the best. You should get some too, it's so rich and vibrant." It's all bullshit. It's brain chemistry. When they are complaining, that's frontal cortex and rational thought. When they are spouting the other stuff, that's dopamine and oxytocin on the lizard brain. The anger is them trying to reconcile incompatibles without sounding silly even to themselves. Parenthood Is indeed full of contradictions. It's the toughest and most thankless job, and also the most rewarding. You can spout all you want about "dopamine and oxytocin" but if you know those words, than you know enough to realize that our entire consciousness is "Brain chemistry". The "Lizard brain" bit, just makes you sound like a jealous and clueless geek. You can throw it out, along with "crotchfruit" and the like. All parts of our brain, contribute to who we are. The part that you term "Lizard brain", is actually, the complete opposite. Without it, we would have no Self sacrifice, no love of family, God or country. Nothing that makes us human. Nothing that makes life worth living. You, participating in a conversation about parenthood, would be like me complaining about my taxes, to immigrants from Africa. They could relate on some level, but they wouldn't and couldn't truly understand. |
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Quoted: Because as the Germans are finding out, when you fail to replicate your culture through reproduction of natives- it has NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES FOR EVERYONE THAT'S A PART OF THAT CULTURE. View Quote It's not like the ROPers bred their current populations in Germany. They all came there after the fact because Germany invited them. Germany is more a lesson on unchecked immigration than it is a treatise on why people should be guilted into procreation. |
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Quoted: That isn't how it works. There is a time gap between being independent and needing to go into a home. That gap can be for several years, maybe even more than a decade, if you have family who can visit a couple of times a week, help with the bills/taxes, make sure you get doctor visits, etc. Without kids to help out, you end up in a home much sooner, plus you want kids to check up on to make sure you are being treated well in the home. Without kids checking up, a sadistic nurse could do all sorts of nasty shit, and who would know, especially if you are too old to communicate? Nursing homes are definitely a circle of hell, but the patients w/o family are the lowest circle of all. View Quote If I can't take care of myself, and never will be able to again.... I'm not going to wait around to die. |
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No, Germany is finding out that when you introduce a massive number of people suddenly, it changes your culture. It's not like the ROPers bred their current populations in Germany. They all came there after the fact because Germany invited them. Germany is more a lesson on unchecked immigration than it is a treatise on why people should be guilted into procreation. View Quote Could it be the fact that their birth levels are below replacement rates, creating a vacuum in service and industrial jobs (normally taken by young people)? |
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