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Link Posted: 12/28/2014 8:02:25 AM EDT
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Apparently John Galt is alive and well

Link Posted: 12/28/2014 8:06:32 AM EDT
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I blame Obama.
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 8:09:15 AM EDT
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  Neutrality is a motherfucker to maintain, unless you live in a place that nobody wants.

Like... Australia.
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1846 America was pretty damn good in the liberty department. And we're still doing better on the whole guns thing.


The real mistake was joining the Confederacy. Should have seceded, then sold beef and horse to both sides while claiming neutrality.

  Neutrality is a motherfucker to maintain, unless you live in a place that nobody wants.

Like... Australia.


Yeah right read this. 1 in 10 of our illegals come from the US

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/more-than-62000-people-living-illegally-in-australia-20141226-12dxod.html


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Yeah right read this. 1 in 10 of our illegals come from the US



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1846 America was pretty damn good in the liberty department. And we're still doing better on the whole guns thing.





The real mistake was joining the Confederacy. Should have seceded, then sold beef and horse to both sides while claiming neutrality.


  Neutrality is a motherfucker to maintain, unless you live in a place that nobody wants.



Like... Australia.





Yeah right read this. 1 in 10 of our illegals come from the US



http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/more-than-62000-people-living-illegally-in-australia-20141226-12dxod.html









 
8%, not 10.




Vacationers that overstayed their visas. Probably so drunk they missed their planes. We don't get beer out of our taps here in Murica.
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 8:18:09 AM EDT
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So you join up for protection only to eventually bite the hand that protected you. Those damn Yankees I tell ya!
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 8:31:56 AM EDT
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Vacationers that overstayed their visas. Probably so drunk they missed their planes. We don't get beer out of our taps here in Murica.
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1846 America was pretty damn good in the liberty department. And we're still doing better on the whole guns thing.


The real mistake was joining the Confederacy. Should have seceded, then sold beef and horse to both sides while claiming neutrality.

  Neutrality is a motherfucker to maintain, unless you live in a place that nobody wants.

Like... Australia.


Yeah right read this. 1 in 10 of our illegals come from the US

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/more-than-62000-people-living-illegally-in-australia-20141226-12dxod.html



  8%, not 10.

Vacationers that overstayed their visas. Probably so drunk they missed their planes. We don't get beer out of our taps here in Murica.


Well you cant walk here and be a "border jumper" can you.

No they are staying for the lifestyle and the horny women


Link Posted: 12/28/2014 8:34:41 AM EDT
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Not dragons there is already a well documented incident of what may have happened.

http://youtu.be/mi0fEZbBN3Q




Link Posted: 12/28/2014 8:40:37 AM EDT
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Vacationers that overstayed their visas. Probably so drunk they missed their planes. We don't get beer out of our taps here in Murica.





Well you cant walk here and be a "border jumper" can you.



No they are staying for the lifestyle and the horny women









 
I have heard that they go wild for American accents. I'd like to check it out someday, my grandfather is from the New Zealand part of Oz.
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 8:45:28 AM EDT
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To get away from the Australia / US dick measuring topic..............wasn't there an A-10 that went down in the mountains out west a while back ?? The investigators mentioned pilot hypoxia or something. Was the A-10 ever found ??
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 8:48:43 AM EDT
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I remember that...




The Australian co-pilot was jumping out and the American pilot involuntarily knocked down the landing gear with his dick as he was flying the plane and tossing his colleague a parachute.
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 8:48:44 AM EDT
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My guess is it entered a thunderstorm and went down.

I expect wreckage to be found by tonight.
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 8:56:50 AM EDT
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I have heard that they go wild for American accents. I'd like to check it out someday, my grandfather is from the New Zealand part of Oz.
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Well you cant walk here and be a "border jumper" can you.



No they are staying for the lifestyle and the horny women







 
I have heard that they go wild for American accents. I'd like to check it out someday, my grandfather is from the New Zealand part of Oz.
I've heard squids saying the women throw tennis balls with their numbers on them at the ship when they port there, also according to squid legend it's the place with the highest rate of squids not returning to the ship, and the women supposedly like American men because we're not as big of assholes as their men.

 
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 9:00:11 AM EDT
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First thing that I thought as well after reading about the request for a course deviation.
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 9:01:51 AM EDT
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A320FlyGuy http://cdn-www.airliners.net/graphics/ipflags/ca.gif From Canada, joined May 2012, 41 posts,
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My hopes and prayers are with the passengers and their families - I think we all know what the outcome is going to be, but one can always have hope.

While the weather on the route looks rather nasty, I have always found that the A320 is a really solid aircraft in turbulence. I've flown it through bad winter storms, tropical thunderstorms and all sorts of combined weather and I've never felt that the aircraft was being held together on a hope and a prayer. I would be shocked if this was a case of turbulence causing a major structural failure. To the best of my knowledge, the A320 has never had any sort of major in-flight structural failure.




 
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I doubt that guy flys any airline. That is one of the stupidest statements I have ever read.
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 9:02:33 AM EDT
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First thing that I thought as well after reading about the request for a course deviation.
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I expect wreckage to be found by tonight.


First thing that I thought as well after reading about the request for a course deviation.


Agreed, request to deviate course for bad weather.
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 9:06:07 AM EDT
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Apparently a leaked photo of the Air Traffic Control screen showing 36300 ft and climbing but only 353 knots.
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That is ground speed. If there is a 100 knot headwind, that is a perfectly normal airspeed.

If there is no headwind, it is not.
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 9:06:47 AM EDT
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Did this  Airbus have carbon fibre control surfaces?
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 9:11:34 AM EDT
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Did not see the climb info. I'll look again.

ETA- I see the up arrow. Why are the posters thinking that is ground speed and not IAS?
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Apparently a leaked photo of the Air Traffic Control screen showing 36300 ft and climbing but only 353 knots.
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Why is that bad?

With a lower speed he could be descending, maneuvering, climbing, etc. Granted, I believe that may be below the stall speed at that altitude.

  Climbing while at a low speed may suggest that they are headed towards a stall?  Similar to the Air France flight.

All speculation at the moment though.  It could mean that there's a dragon holding onto the plane


Did not see the climb info. I'll look again.

ETA- I see the up arrow. Why are the posters thinking that is ground speed and not IAS?


because ATC gets ground speed on their display, not airspeed.
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 9:27:46 AM EDT
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Smaller area to search than the Malaysian one, I imagine.
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 9:29:27 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/28/2014 9:32:33 AM EDT
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I expect wreckage to be found by tonight.



There is no reason to fly through a thunderstorm in peacetime.

— Sign over squadron ops desk at Udorn RTAFB, Thailand, 1970.


not saying they did it on purpose.

At night or embedded, all you see on the radar is the heavy precipitation. Most pilots leave a large distance because extreme turbulence and hail can be a mile from the cell for ever 10 knots of wind.

You also can not see the cell building in the vertical before it has precip in it.
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 9:37:57 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/28/2014 9:38:39 AM EDT
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No mention of an ELT?

These damn things seem to fail 100% of the time lately.
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 9:40:43 AM EDT
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A shitty way to go.
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I expect wreckage to be found by tonight.



A shitty way to go.


I wasn't aware that there is a good way, save for smacking a mountain doing 500 knots and never knowing it was there.
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 9:43:45 AM EDT
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I blame your stupid fucking avatar.




























Link Posted: 12/28/2014 9:43:52 AM EDT
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http://www.reddit.com/live/u5bkiqteljl4


 


Link Posted: 12/28/2014 9:44:40 AM EDT
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I doubt that guy flys any airline. That is one of the stupidest statements I have ever read.
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A320FlyGuy http://cdn-www.airliners.net/graphics/ipflags/ca.gif From Canada, joined May 2012, 41 posts,
Reply 91, posted Sun Dec 28 2014 16:00:05 your local time (1 hour 46 secs ago) and read 17282 times:
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My hopes and prayers are with the passengers and their families - I think we all know what the outcome is going to be, but one can always have hope.

While the weather on the route looks rather nasty, I have always found that the A320 is a really solid aircraft in turbulence. I've flown it through bad winter storms, tropical thunderstorms and all sorts of combined weather and I've never felt that the aircraft was being held together on a hope and a prayer. I would be shocked if this was a case of turbulence causing a major structural failure. To the best of my knowledge, the A320 has never had any sort of major in-flight structural failure.




 


I doubt that guy flys any airline. That is one of the stupidest statements I have ever read.


I agree, but I suspect he is saying that he flew it is the same as fans saying "my team"
He flew on it
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 9:45:09 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/28/2014 9:56:36 AM EDT
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Plane still missing?

eta: Yup.
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 10:01:23 AM EDT
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Now two planes have been hijacked and are being prepped for terror activities.
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 10:04:38 AM EDT
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I've been told that turbulence has never brought down a plane.
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 10:08:54 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/28/2014 10:09:54 AM EDT
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First prayers to family's going out....

Okay let me get this straight Obunghole called Putin....they conferenced in aliens and dragons.....snatched plane and took it......to wherever.. The last plane went

I think the dragons did this on their own, mainly because they have been repressed, and racially profiled for attacking and eating shit that is not in their food group.....basterds-!  Where is al and holder now!

Apparently weaving the wookie
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 10:19:23 AM EDT
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Flight Simulator 10 is awesome



 
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 10:20:54 AM EDT
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  Dude...Qantas is the 2nd oldest airline in the world and flies a ton of long haul, including the longest route in the world.  It's a major airline, not an airline that specialises in short domestic trips.

Seriously, lay off the weed.  You are making an ass of yourself.
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Compare how many aircraft qatas has with our SMALLEST airline and their flight schedule. Then get back to me. Sure, a little company-relatively speaking- will have a smaller accident incident, but if you're good at math, which yo me, it doesn't seem like you are, the numbers speak for themselves. USA! USA!

  Dude...Qantas is the 2nd oldest airline in the world and flies a ton of long haul, including the longest route in the world.  It's a major airline, not an airline that specialises in short domestic trips.

Seriously, lay off the weed.  You are making an ass of yourself.


I have flown Qantas between LAX and SYD (flight approx 15 hrs) and SYD and HKG (approx 9 hours - these flights long haul enough for you?) numerous times. It is one of the best airlines in the world and its pilots are top notch professionals. Anyone running down Qantas is doing so out of ignorance.

US airlines are a sad joke. Trying to save a little money vs Cathay  I just flew from Narita to EWR on United. I'll spare you a rant and simply say 'never again'. United isn't even close to being in the same league as Cathay, Qantas, or several other int'l carriers. It's an embarrassment.

ETA: and don't even get me started on EWR. I've seen cleaner and more efficient airports in the third world. What a first impression  for foreigners arriving in the US. It's a disgrace.




Link Posted: 12/28/2014 10:34:25 AM EDT
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_587

However, terrorism was officially ruled out as the cause by the National Transportation Safety Board, which instead attributed the disaster to the first officer's overuse of rudder controls in response to wake turbulence or jet wash from a Japan Airlines Boeing 747-400 that took off minutes before it. According to the NTSB, this aggressive use of the rudder controls by the co-pilot caused the vertical stabilizer to snap off the plane.
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Link Posted: 12/28/2014 10:37:36 AM EDT
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Why this will end-up being more than a two-day story even after wreckage is found is beyond me.
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 10:41:51 AM EDT
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Shit.
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Flight 370 definitely had nefarious activity.  I'm going with storm related on this one until more info is available.
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... your spelling is atrocious!



 
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 10:53:23 AM EDT
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Someone needs to invent a find my airplane app.
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 11:00:46 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/28/2014 11:01:11 AM EDT
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I'm trying to remember how the Malaysian story broke. Was it a big story during the 7 hours that it was in the air or did it take few days to make it big?
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... Newark Liberty International Airport



 
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Compare how many aircraft qatas has with our SMALLEST airline and their flight schedule. Then get back to me. Sure, a little company-relatively speaking- will have a smaller accident incident, but if you're good at math, which yo me, it doesn't seem like you are, the numbers speak for themselves. USA! USA!

  Dude...Qantas is the 2nd oldest airline in the world and flies a ton of long haul, including the longest route in the world.  It's a major airline, not an airline that specialises in short domestic trips.

Seriously, lay off the weed.  You are making an ass of yourself.


I have flown Qantas between LAX and SYD (flight approx 15 hrs) and SYD and HKG (approx 9 hours - these flights long haul enough for you?) numerous times. It is one of the best airlines in the world and its pilots are top notch professionals. Anyone running down Qantas is doing so out of ignorance.

US airlines are a sad joke. Trying to save a little money vs Cathay  I just flew from Narita to EWR on United. I'll spare you a rant and simply say 'never again'. United isn't even close to being in the same league as Cathay, Qantas, or several other int'l carriers. It's an embarrassment.

ETA: and don't even get me started on EWR. I've seen cleaner and more efficient airports in the third world. What a first impression  for foreigners arriving in the US. It's a disgrace.






What's EWR?




Newark airport code.
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Compare how many aircraft qatas has with our SMALLEST airline and their flight schedule. Then get back to me. Sure, a little company-relatively speaking- will have a smaller accident incident, but if you're good at math, which yo me, it doesn't seem like you are, the numbers speak for themselves. USA! USA!

  Dude...Qantas is the 2nd oldest airline in the world and flies a ton of long haul, including the longest route in the world.  It's a major airline, not an airline that specialises in short domestic trips.

Seriously, lay off the weed.  You are making an ass of yourself.


I have flown Qantas between LAX and SYD (flight approx 15 hrs) and SYD and HKG (approx 9 hours - these flights long haul enough for you?) numerous times. It is one of the best airlines in the world and its pilots are top notch professionals. Anyone running down Qantas is doing so out of ignorance.

US airlines are a sad joke. Trying to save a little money vs Cathay  I just flew from Narita to EWR on United. I'll spare you a rant and simply say 'never again'. United isn't even close to being in the same league as Cathay, Qantas, or several other int'l carriers. It's an embarrassment.

ETA: and don't even get me started on EWR. I've seen cleaner and more efficient airports in the third world. What a first impression  for foreigners arriving in the US. It's a disgrace.






What's EWR?

Newark Liberty Airport, New Jersey.

IIRC, the picture of the radar track showed the plane's altitude as just above 35,000 36,300 feet. That would be one Hell of a thunderstorm that had enough energy to wreck a commercial jet at that height.
Link Posted: 12/28/2014 11:11:45 AM EDT
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Tag


Link Posted: 12/28/2014 11:11:49 AM EDT
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I worked in my kitchen all day yesterday, avoided the computer and woke up to this?  Wow.  Helluva story.
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... your spelling is atrocious!
 


Yes, yes it is.

I have other failings too.  But this iPad auto corrects to that for some reason.

Anyway are they?

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