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Link Posted: 6/18/2020 1:40:56 PM EDT
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Thanks to the army I will retire at 43.
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You mean, 'you could retire at 43' but you won't because you love the Army.  Right?
Link Posted: 6/18/2020 1:42:05 PM EDT
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Is the entire country NYC and does every cop in the country work for the NYPD and does every Union in the country only exist as the Union for the NYPD? No, it doesn't? OMG!

Because last I checked, I don't work for the NYPD, live in NYC, nor does my Union represent or have anything related to NYC.


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Combine that with dirty politicians

Okay, let's stop right there.  Who do the unions vote for and politic for?  As I've pointed out a number of times, NYC is endorsing liberal Democrats for office in the 2020 elections.  Want to go around the country?  

Also, as I said in a post very recently, do your job.  You can't protest your job.  Either you do it or you don't.

I'm a civil engineer designing a bridge.  I'm going to protest and ignore my responsibility because I'm angry at my boss.  Even though doing so could cause the life of innocent people.

I'm a cop responsible for answering calls.  I'm going to protest and ignore my responsibility because I'm angry at my boss.  Even though doing so could cause the life of innocent people.

Do you think #1 is criminal but #2 is no big deal?
Is the entire country NYC and does every cop in the country work for the NYPD and does every Union in the country only exist as the Union for the NYPD? No, it doesn't? OMG!

Because last I checked, I don't work for the NYPD, live in NYC, nor does my Union represent or have anything related to NYC.


Like you  said earlier, every PD around here supports mostly Republican candidates.  AND...around here so do the firefighters...mostly.  But that crooked mafia run machine IAFF sucks Joe Biden off.

Around here police or fire, you retire with what you put in.  We do not pay social security.  Our city opted out, not fair I know but lucky me.  We pay TMRS.  7% of my check every payday goes to TMRS.  I keep paying into it, as it is withdrawn from my check, until I retire.  You retire with what you have banked with interest.

I also have a 457b which I have withdrawn from my check to supplement that.  That goes into mutual funds of my choosing, FROM THE FUNDS THE PLAN ADMINSTRATOR OFFERS.  So I paid dearly into that to supplement my retirement.  

I am logging in to figures standby.


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Listen, I asked about this a couple of weeks ago.  I asked why cops would retire after twenty years.  If they loved their job, like they say they do, why wouldn't they stay in it until they reach 65 years of age?  I'm an engineer.  I love my job.  I don't want to retire when I'm 45 years old.  That's stupid.  I was told by MANY cops that after twenty years your retirement starts declining!  So you need to retire ASAP.

So argue with arfcom GD, not me.  You may not have seen the thread.
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@dannylgriffin, in Florida it is 30 years to reach full retirement and you don't get medical coverage wen you retire.

Try again.

Listen, I asked about this a couple of weeks ago.  I asked why cops would retire after twenty years.  If they loved their job, like they say they do, why wouldn't they stay in it until they reach 65 years of age?  I'm an engineer.  I love my job.  I don't want to retire when I'm 45 years old.  That's stupid.  I was told by MANY cops that after twenty years your retirement starts declining!  So you need to retire ASAP.

So argue with arfcom GD, not me.  You may not have seen the thread.


Hey, bro, are you an engineer?
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I stayed in for almost 32 years,
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And in another post you said you will be taking tricare, and I think you said you had a mil pension that your ex got some of.

So lets see, 20 years mil to get a pension then 32 years as a cop. Math is hard but that seems like your very old, unless you got a med discharge.

How old are ?

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Link Posted: 6/18/2020 1:43:23 PM EDT
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The International Association of Fire Fighters, the largest FF Union in the Country has endorsed Biden and has been heavily entrenched with Democrats for decades.
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Nice.  But why?
Link Posted: 6/18/2020 1:46:34 PM EDT
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Then do it.  You can't protest your job.  Either you do it or you don't.

I'm a civil engineer designing a bridge.  I'm going to protest and ignore my responsibility because I'm angry at my boss.  Even though doing so could cause the life of innocent people.

I'm a cop responsible for answering calls.  I'm going to protest and ignore my responsibility because I'm angry at my boss.  Even though doing so could cause the life of innocent people.
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Or I am a cop and do my job correctly and the DA charges me with MURDER

Sorry your examples do not work.
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80 % or so of my county voted for Trump. I wonder how many other place had that high of a %
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84%
Link Posted: 6/18/2020 1:47:31 PM EDT
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Listen, I asked about this a couple of weeks ago.  I asked why cops would retire after twenty years.  If they loved their job, like they say they do, why wouldn't they stay in it until they reach 65 years of age?  I'm an engineer.  I love my job.  I don't want to retire when I'm 45 years old.  That's stupid.  I was told by MANY cops that after twenty years your retirement starts declining!  So you need to retire ASAP.

So argue with arfcom GD, not me.  You may not have seen the thread.
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@dannylgriffin, in Florida it is 30 years to reach full retirement and you don't get medical coverage wen you retire.

Try again.

Listen, I asked about this a couple of weeks ago.  I asked why cops would retire after twenty years.  If they loved their job, like they say they do, why wouldn't they stay in it until they reach 65 years of age?  I'm an engineer.  I love my job.  I don't want to retire when I'm 45 years old.  That's stupid.  I was told by MANY cops that after twenty years your retirement starts declining!  So you need to retire ASAP.

So argue with arfcom GD, not me.  You may not have seen the thread.


Lol

Jesus. You don't see the difference between a low risk physical job such as yours to being a LEO, FF etc.?
Link Posted: 6/18/2020 1:48:04 PM EDT
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Only ONE person is responsible for that death...

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My current benefit today per month if I retired with 28 years 6 months of service would be $3515/month.  That benefit would extend to my wife after my death.

My 457b that I heavily invested in has to pick up the slack.

I am eligible to buy insurance from the city for me at 85% of the full cost.  As an employee they subsidize a good bit more while I work, when I retire 85% of the cost belongs to me.  That is about $1300/month currently for retirees.  That ends when you are old enough for medicare.



Why does the IAFF suck off the demoncrats, because it is an organized crime family.

I have nothing to do with them.  They do not receive my money and haven't for years.
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How old are you danny? Early to mid twenties?
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63.  Project Manager for multi-million dollar projects every year for products you probably own.  My degree is in Computer Engineering.  You?
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Hey, bro, are you an engineer?
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Link Posted: 6/18/2020 1:54:45 PM EDT
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You design the most perfect bridge in the world. Guy jumps off it and commits suicide. You go to jail for murder.
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Are you on drugs?  That has nothing to do with my analogy.  My analogy is people being hired to do their job who refuse to do it adequately because they are angry at their boss.  Either do it to the best of your ability or quit.  If you find that you can no longer do your job, then gracefully resign.  Burn no bridges.  Hire in somewhere else where you can be effective.
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63.  Project Manager for multi-million dollar projects every year for products you probably own.  My degree is in Computer Engineering.  You?
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That explains why you know so much about everything.
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Also, as I said in a post very recently, do your job.  You can't protest your job.  Either you do it or you don't.

I'm a civil engineer designing a bridge.  
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Civil engineers don't have to deal with violent felons on PCP, aren't hated by the media, or are expected to die while doing their job due to political grandstanding of the DA and Mayor.

Link Posted: 6/18/2020 1:55:17 PM EDT
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Ha trying to buy them off for $500 each?

Fuck. That. Noise.
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JUST IN: Every Atlanta police officer to receive a one-time, $500 bonus today as thanks for their hard work during protests and COVID-19:



Ha trying to buy them off for $500 each?

Fuck. That. Noise.


Sounds like bribery.
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Listen, I asked about this a couple of weeks ago.  I asked why cops would retire after twenty years.
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Loving your job doesn't mean not getting burned out on the whole thing and taking what you had, and walking away and doing something different.
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We do it for the military.

What's your point.
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Not any more.
Link Posted: 6/18/2020 2:01:18 PM EDT
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Boy, has this thread spun out of control.
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Hey, bro, are you an engineer?
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@dannylgriffin, in Florida it is 30 years to reach full retirement and you don't get medical coverage wen you retire.

Try again.

Listen, I asked about this a couple of weeks ago.  I asked why cops would retire after twenty years.  If they loved their job, like they say they do, why wouldn't they stay in it until they reach 65 years of age?  I'm an engineer.  I love my job.  I don't want to retire when I'm 45 years old.  That's stupid.  I was told by MANY cops that after twenty years your retirement starts declining!  So you need to retire ASAP.

So argue with arfcom GD, not me.  You may not have seen the thread.


Hey, bro, are you an engineer?
He has no concept of the reality
Link Posted: 6/18/2020 2:03:16 PM EDT
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You mention NYC.  Their union advocated for liberals.  Their union is still advocating for liberals.  So, WTF?  I don't like Hitler but my union supports Hitler so whatever?  I thought cops weren't gender studies graduates who wear pussy hats off duty.  Guess I was wrong.
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I said NYS. There is more to NYS than NYC.
Upstate NY is overwhelmingly Republican, but the NYC population completely cancels out the upstate voters
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It is thrown out because a lot of people think that LE Unions are cock sucking the Democrats when the largest Police Union in the nation isn't. But God forbid a Firefighter Union is mentioned and the truth is that they're a Democratic stooge. Double Standards and all that.

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The International Association of Fire Fighters, the largest FF Union in the Country has endorsed Biden and has been heavily entrenched with Democrats for decades.
Everybody knows and you gotta keep parading  that around in every thread that pops up

Maybe you could give that shit a rest for one day maybe???

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It is thrown out because a lot of people think that LE Unions are cock sucking the Democrats when the largest Police Union in the nation isn't. But God forbid a Firefighter Union is mentioned and the truth is that they're a Democratic stooge. Double Standards and all that.

I know man. I needed more emojis
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63.  Project Manager for multi-million dollar projects every year for products you probably own.  My degree is in Computer Engineering.  You?
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Then you should be much smarter at this stage of your life than you are.

Seriously.
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Listen, I asked about this a couple of weeks ago.  I asked why cops would retire after twenty years.  If they loved their job, like they say they do, why wouldn't they stay in it until they reach 65 years of age?  I'm an engineer.  I love my job.  I don't want to retire when I'm 45 years old.  That's stupid.  I was told by MANY cops that after twenty years your retirement starts declining!  So you need to retire ASAP.

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When is the last time you had to go hands on with a customer, knowing that if it didn't go right, you could be charged with murder?
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Boy, has this thread spun out of control.
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It spun out of control early this morning.
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If I was a cop there, why would I want to serve under an administration that would charge me with murder for protecting myself?
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Agree.  So then resign and move somewhere else.  You don't refuse to do your job and risk the lives of innocent people just because you are butthurt.  Either do your job or quit, just like everyone else in America.  Or probably the world for that matter.

Just read on CBS:  "Prosecutors across the country are defying cozy relationships with police, swiftly charging officers. Progressive prosecutors ushered into office on promises of overhauling the criminal justice system are throwing their weight behind proposals to scrap laws that conceal police records from the public and barring prosecutors from accepting campaign cash and police union endorsements."

You've paid the Left, via the police unions, to have your sins covered up for decades.  Perhaps not any longer.
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Agree.  So then resign and move somewhere else.  You don't refuse to do your job and risk the lives of innocent people just because you are butthurt.  Either do your job or quit, just like everyone else in America.  Or probably the world for that matter.

Just read on CBS:  "Prosecutors across the country are defying cozy relationships with police, swiftly charging officers. Progressive prosecutors ushered into office on promises of overhauling the criminal justice system are throwing their weight behind proposals to scrap laws that conceal police records from the public and barring prosecutors from accepting campaign cash and police union endorsements."

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The courts have ruled more than once that the police are not obligated to put themselves between the general public and danger, so even if they "refuse to do their job", they aren't really refusing to do their job.  They are doing it exactly as standing law has prescribed.
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My grandfather didn't stop doing engineering work until his eyes got too bad in his late '80's to read the plans, even blowing them up on a monitor.
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@dannylgriffin, in Florida it is 30 years to reach full retirement and you don't get medical coverage wen you retire.

Try again.

Listen, I asked about this a couple of weeks ago.  I asked why cops would retire after twenty years.  If they loved their job, like they say they do, why wouldn't they stay in it until they reach 65 years of age?  I'm an engineer.  I love my job.  I don't want to retire when I'm 45 years old.  That's stupid.  I was told by MANY cops that after twenty years your retirement starts declining!  So you need to retire ASAP.

So argue with arfcom GD, not me.  You may not have seen the thread.


Lol

Jesus. You don't see the difference between a low risk physical job such as yours to being a LEO, FF etc.?

My grandfather didn't stop doing engineering work until his eyes got too bad in his late '80's to read the plans, even blowing them up on a monitor.


Well, I'll be sure to send a 80 year old cop to a DV call.
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Agree.  So then resign and move somewhere else.  You don't refuse to do your job and risk the lives of innocent people just because you are butthurt.  Either do your job or quit, just like everyone else in America.  Or probably the world for that matter.
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Fuck them and fuck the entitled children with this opinion that think you get to demand someone be put in jeopardy of life in prison for your MMQB read of a deadly force incident in the most biased light possible.  They don’t have to come to work to help you.  You got the answers.  Get it fucking done yourself.
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Btw, I work in IT, PM's are frequently the least useful and knowledgeable people I deal with, even worse than H1B's in many cases.
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How old are you danny? Early to mid twenties?

63.  Project Manager for multi-million dollar projects every year for products you probably own.  My degree is in Computer Engineering.  You?

Does Computer Engineering even count towards a PE?

Btw, I work in IT, PM's are frequently the least useful and knowledgeable people I deal with, even worse than H1B's in many cases.


And Danny continues providing evidence in support of your opinion.
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Btw, I work in IT, PM's are frequently the least useful and knowledgeable people I deal with, even worse than H1B's in many cases.
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How old are you danny? Early to mid twenties?

63.  Project Manager for multi-million dollar projects every year for products you probably own.  My degree is in Computer Engineering.  You?

Does Computer Engineering even count towards a PE?

Btw, I work in IT, PM's are frequently the least useful and knowledgeable people I deal with, even worse than H1B's in many cases.


You're working with the wrong PM's. Cracker.
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A) no one gives a fuck you're an engineer. I know PE's with decades of experience that mention it less than you do;

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I'm just giving an analogy with something I'm familiar with.  I'm not a civil engineer, I'm a computer engineer.  I'm a project manager for stuff here in the USA.  And no, I won't be replaced with an H1B ever, even if I wasn't retired, which I just did last year.  My point still holds: if you refuse to do your job, then resign.  Quit.  Go elsewhere if you have any dignity.  You can try to reframe it all you want, but it all boils down to you are refusing to do the job you were hired to do.
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Well, I'll be sure to send a 80 year old cop to a DV call.
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That explains why you know so much about everything.
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Are you on drugs?  That has nothing to do with my analogy.  My analogy is people being hired to do their job who refuse to do it adequately because they are angry at their boss.  Either do it to the best of your ability or quit.  If you find that you can no longer do your job, then gracefully resign.  Burn no bridges.  Hire in somewhere else where you can be effective.
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You design the most perfect bridge in the world. Guy jumps off it and commits suicide. You go to jail for murder.

Are you on drugs?  That has nothing to do with my analogy.  My analogy is people being hired to do their job who refuse to do it adequately because they are angry at their boss.  Either do it to the best of your ability or quit.  If you find that you can no longer do your job, then gracefully resign.  Burn no bridges.  Hire in somewhere else where you can be effective.



You won't understand this, but I'll just throw it out there: What if you love your job? You love the people you serve? You truly want to be a force for good in their lives, and have done so for years or even decades?  And then along comes some cocksucker of a prosecuting attorney, and an even greater cocksucker of a mayor, who unilaterally decide that you should be treated like a criminal for just doing that job you love?  What if you don't WANT to relocate away from the places and people that you love?  What if you would rather try to get rid of those two cocksuckers who have made it downright dangerous for you to do your job to the best of your ability?  What do you do?  Apparently, if I'm to take your advice, I quit, move, and take up a new career as a printer repairman or some-damn-thing.  

Most people would rather fight for what they hold dear.
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Yes, all the charges are absolute bullshit. You don’t like cops we get it. Go start your own and quit muddying this one up with your childlike perspective of how things work.
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We'll see if Rolfe spends any time in prison.
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And in another post you said you will be taking tricare, and I think you said you had a mil pension that your ex got some of.

So lets see, 20 years mil to get a pension then 32 years as a cop. Math is hard but that seems like your very old, unless you got a med discharge.

How old are ?

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I'm 57.
My Guard time was concurrent to my other jobs. My deployment time allows me to draw earlier than I would have otherwise.

The ex gets roughly a third of the state pension.
She'll get half of the military pension once I start drawing that

I got to keep the various IRAs, deferred compensation, TSP accounts in exchange for my part of the house value at the time of divorce.

The part time gig replaces what I lose to the ex, or was meant to. Covid-19 threw a wrench into that plan, and I retired a year sooner than I had planned because the part time job was an option that wouldn't be available a year later.

I just sat in on the virtual briefing for retiring from the retired reserve as a grey area soldier and start drawing the military pension. I'd forgotten how much I disliked military death by PowerPoint...
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Agree.  So then resign and move somewhere else.  You don't refuse to do your job and risk the lives of innocent people just because you are butthurt.  Either do your job or quit, just like everyone else in America.  Or probably the world for that matter.

Just read on CBS:  "Prosecutors across the country are defying cozy relationships with police, swiftly charging officers. Progressive prosecutors ushered into office on promises of overhauling the criminal justice system are throwing their weight behind proposals to scrap laws that conceal police records from the public and barring prosecutors from accepting campaign cash and police union endorsements."

You've paid the Left, via the police unions, to have your sins covered up for decades.  Perhaps not any longer.
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So now we see your issue you use CBS as a source.
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Damn, I thought I was up late last night. There’s only so many years you can fuck off on sleep before it starts eating your soul.

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I blew my load for absolutely nothing....I'm fucking grounded right now for staying up so late, and sleeping in!

Damn you OP, I'm only on the net now cause my parents are at work.  I also blame the late night degenerate crew
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Any chance of actual news instead of you guys pantywaving your man-thongs?
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And in another post you said you will be taking tricare, and I think you said you had a mil pension that your ex got some of.

So lets see, 20 years mil to get a pension then 32 years as a cop. Math is hard but that seems like your very old, unless you got a med discharge.

How old are ?

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I stayed in for almost 32 years,


And in another post you said you will be taking tricare, and I think you said you had a mil pension that your ex got some of.

So lets see, 20 years mil to get a pension then 32 years as a cop. Math is hard but that seems like your very old, unless you got a med discharge.

How old are ?

@tc556guy
Don't ingage with this.... individual... this is the same guy who will willingly enforce unconstitutional laws. And openly admits to being willing to enforce the safe act.
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The DA also said Brooks was cooperative and cordial. In fact he lied on multiple claims he made.
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Oh, the DA completely left out the part where Brooks fought with the cops.  I know that.  We all know that the DA is a sack of sh*t.  You still have to counteract his claims.  I don't think they can all be discounted.
Link Posted: 6/18/2020 2:24:47 PM EDT
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I'm just giving an analogy with something I'm familiar with.  I'm not a civil engineer, I'm a computer engineer.  I'm a project manager for stuff here in the USA.  And no, I won't be replaced with an H1B ever, even if I wasn't retired, which I just did last year.  My point still holds: if you refuse to do your job, then resign.  Quit.  Go elsewhere if you have any dignity.  You can try to reframe it all you want, but it all boils down to you are refusing to do the job you were hired to do.
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Ever hear the term, 'hostile work environment'?

In this instance the idea behind calling out en masse is to force change in 'management'. 'As long as management persists in ignoring protocols and insists on malicious prosecutions based only in political ambition...you can do the job yourself.'

In any reality I can imagine...the citizenry will eventually demand the same changes the police officers seek.
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Oh, the DA completely left out the part where Brooks fought with the cops.  I know that.  We all know that the DA is a sack of sh*t.  You still have to counteract his claims.  I don't think they can all be discounted.
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If I was a member of the Jury and the only source of info was what is available now the cop would be found not guilty on all charges at least by me,
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