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Posted: 9/14/2023 10:25:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I spend a lot of time reviewing hand written notes. Fuck cursive. The variations in form make it fucking useless for record keeping. I spend more time deciphering inconsistent curves and bullshit swoops. Records written in print do not require this extra effort. Further, cursive is for lazy people trying to write faster. Learn to type grandpa. Or develop some work ethic and write in print.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta41xU-tkFAETA: we homeschool, so our kids will know how to speak Latin and write in cursive. That just triggered a memory of something I hadn't thought of in a loooong time. My parents had an old cursive typewriter. I remember classmates and teachers going, "Wow. I didn't even know there was such a thing". |
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Posted: 9/14/2023 10:27:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How are you with rithmetic? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I absolutely can read and rite in cursive. There is some god-awful handwriting out there that is a challenge to decipher, however. Personally I think it is important more so for developing fine motor skills than as a means of communication. How are you with rithmetic? Dunno, but I'd bet he can rite in the rain 
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Posted: 9/14/2023 10:28:51 PM EDT
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Tear down the statues! You can find pictures on the internet!
Erase history and rewrite it. Because people can’t read history. |
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Posted: 9/14/2023 10:28:51 PM EDT
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Yes to both.
Went to a private school in the 80's. Theres lots of stuff we learned that was standard back then that hasn't been taught in decades. |
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Posted: 9/14/2023 10:29:19 PM EDT
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Cursive is on the upper slope as humanity rockets down the hill to "Idiocracy" and soon they will only be able to communicate using texting abbreviations
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Posted: 9/14/2023 10:34:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes its a problem because kids can't sign thier name. Some minimum level of cursive literacy is required. Discovered this a few weeks ago when my 13 year didn't know how to maintain his name. And this is not a public school only issue.  Was just talking to a bank teller who mentioned younger people taking a painfully long time to sign their names. While it's true that most signatures are cursive, practicing signing your name was something kids did over and over, refining their signatures while dreaming of the day they were old/mature enough to finally need to sign something. Do kids not do that anymore? |
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Posted: 9/14/2023 10:35:48 PM EDT
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Easily read it . I used to write it all the time. A bit rusty but can do it.
I wrote a check today for 3995.65 in cursive. The letters don't flow like they used to but yes I can do it. |
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Posted: 9/14/2023 10:37:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That just triggered a memory of something I hadn't thought of in a loooong time. My parents had an old cursive typewriter. I remember classmates and teachers going, "Wow. I didn't even know there was such a thing". I think it was somewhere in middle school my family got a dox matrix printer and I asked my teachers if I could use the ancient word processor program on our very early home computer, to do my reports and homework. Talking black screen with green text here. 5 1/4 inch floppy disks and long before the internet. At first they refused to accept it but after a while...I think they just got tired of trying to read my chicken scratch. Finally relented and told me to turn it in, out of sight of my classmates. They didn't want the idea spreading I guess. From that day forward to high school graduation I just typed and printed out all my work. Somewhere along the line it became more and more common, I stopped being the exception. |
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Posted: 9/14/2023 10:37:46 PM EDT
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Im glad its not universally taught. There needs to be something to help adults in the future tell the cultured, educated and well-off from the poor illiterate. I wouldn't want my children, as adults, inevertedly inviting print only retards who can only check facebook to communicate to a social event and infecting their children with low class dirt living.
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Posted: 9/14/2023 10:37:59 PM EDT
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I'm 46. I haven't written in cursive since I was in 5th grade and being graded on my handwriting. I can still read it.
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Posted: 9/14/2023 10:47:51 PM EDT
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There is no chance I could write a proper upper and lower case cursive alphabet these days without looking it up.
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Posted: 9/14/2023 10:52:27 PM EDT
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Some of you would be horrified to learn I still write letters by hand - cursive, although my chicken scratch is a hodgepodge of cursive and printing. Long letters. People write me back, too. It’s enjoyable, writing letters. I love my tech, but there’s just something about correspondence on paper. I write several letters a week.
I got D- for handwriting in third grade. LOL |
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Posted: 9/14/2023 10:52:57 PM EDT
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Funny how the schools stop teaching cursive when virtually all of the important historical legal documents this country was founded on are all done in cursive.
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Posted: 9/14/2023 10:53:01 PM EDT
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I haven't written in cursive in 25 years, but it is a now useless skill I still possess.
As for reading it, anyone can figure it out pretty quick. It's not like it's hieroglyphics or something. |
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Posted: 9/14/2023 10:54:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes its a problem because kids can't sign thier name. Some minimum level of cursive literacy is required. Discovered this a few weeks ago when my 13 year didn't know how to sign his name in cursive. And this is not a public school only issue. There is no law that says your signature has to be in cursive. |
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Posted: 9/14/2023 10:55:13 PM EDT
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I do once in a while. There's something nice about a good fountain pen and a couple paragraphs in strict cursive writing.
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Posted: 9/14/2023 10:55:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still get contracts that have spots for name (print) and name (signed). I guess people leave it blank. We are regressing to 100 years ago when people just " made their mark" to sign documents. |
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Posted: 9/14/2023 10:57:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny how the schools stop teaching cursive when virtually all of the important historical legal documents this country was founded on are all done in cursive. If someone has been taught to read but can't decipher cursive, they're too stupid to understand those documents in the first place. |
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Posted: 9/14/2023 10:59:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We are regressing to 100 years ago when people just " made their mark" to sign documents. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Still get contracts that have spots for name (print) and name (signed). I guess people leave it blank. We are regressing to 100 years ago when people just " made their mark" to sign documents. That's all a lot of signatures were for the last 100 years anyway. One or two legible characters and some scribbles. |
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Posted: 9/14/2023 10:59:22 PM EDT
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I have not written anything in cursive for 40+ years.
Read it.. sure. Write cursive..now. Doubtful it would pass as writing. The need disappeared long ago. |
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Posted: 9/14/2023 11:00:32 PM EDT
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I learned it in school but never used it much past that. I probably can't write using it now.
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Posted: 9/14/2023 11:12:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/14/2023 11:50:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is no law that says your signature has to be in cursive. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes its a problem because kids can't sign thier name. Some minimum level of cursive literacy is required. Discovered this a few weeks ago when my 13 year didn't know how to sign his name in cursive. And this is not a public school only issue. There is no law that says your signature has to be in cursive. Most likely but given the amount of money I'm spending on their education they should be able to sign thier name. Maybe I'm being snotty but do we really want people signing documents in box letters? Seems like a step backwards |
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Posted: 9/15/2023 12:02:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most likely but given the amount of money I'm spending on their education they should be able to sign thier name. Maybe I'm being snotty but do we really want people signing documents in box letters? Seems like a step backwards I would argue that using ink and pieces of paper, at all, is a step backwards. I refinanced my house a few years ago to take advantage of the low rates and I remember having to sign my name, legit at least 20 times. I told the lady that kept handing me things to sign that this is fucking stupid. She agreed. I asked her if anyone actually checked the signature. She said yes the borrowers signature must be there. I said no, I mean does anyone actually sit around looking at all this shit, to make sure the handwriting matches. Ya know the whole point of a signature, to help make sure it's the actual person saying they agree. She just laughed and handed me another piece paper to sign. |
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Posted: 9/15/2023 12:07:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes its a problem because kids can't sign thier name. Some minimum level of cursive literacy is required. Discovered this a few weeks ago when my 13 year didn't know how to sign his name in cursive. And this is not a public school only issue. My guess is you are not home schooling. Most home schoolers make it mandatory |
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Posted: 9/15/2023 12:11:38 AM EDT
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I can write in cursive with both hands (not at the same time though) and taught my kids how to read and write it. Same with learning to drive a manual. They will probably never see one ever again, but I think it's a good skill to have just in case.
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Posted: 9/15/2023 12:14:42 AM EDT
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I can read it and write it, but you can't read it.
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Posted: 9/15/2023 12:15:43 AM EDT
[#28]
I write in cursive all the time.
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Posted: 9/15/2023 12:23:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How are you with rithmetic? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I absolutely can read and rite in cursive. There is some god-awful handwriting out there that is a challenge to decipher, however. Personally I think it is important more so for developing fine motor skills than as a means of communication. How are you with rithmetic? I didn't get this at first.  My stupid keyboard on my laptop is dying. It either doesn't type some letters when I press those keys or it somehow bangs out a double or triple. If I typee a sntenc wwithout looking back and proofreading befor posting it looks lik this. |
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Posted: 9/15/2023 12:28:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Me? Absolutely My kids? Not so much Yea, I had to make it a point that the kids learned. Without, it's a handicap. Not in day to day life, but if they're unable to comprehend historical documents, I consider it a handicap |
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Posted: 9/15/2023 12:30:47 AM EDT
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I couldn't do my job if I couldn't read cursive.
The trouble is, so many people write so differently that it's really almost "decoding" to read it. I work in title and all the old indices were written in cursive, and all the deeds were before the typewriter was invented. |
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Posted: 9/15/2023 12:32:46 AM EDT
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I can. I don't think reading in cursive is the problem.
A metric ton of high school and college kids can barely read regular print. Get one to read out loud. Holy shit! |
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Posted: 9/15/2023 12:35:52 AM EDT
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I guess I'm all weird. I write in capital letters with some cursive and lower case letters sometimes lol. It is really legible but now that I read the description I used it sounds like a kidnapping ransom letter lol.
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Posted: 9/15/2023 12:39:30 AM EDT
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Quoted: I am hearing more and more about younger folks not being able to read/write in cursive. I have not noticed this to be true....but I am not really in a situation where it ever comes up. To me , cursive is normal. What are your experiences with cursive? Do you see that younger folks can not read and/or write it? Do you think it matters? No… |
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Posted: 9/15/2023 12:41:09 AM EDT
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Lazlo Biro made it irrelevant in the 1940's and Marcel Bich drove the final stake into its heart in the 1950's. My parents weren't even born yet.
I was taught to read and write it, but outside of writing a check here or there, I never use it. |
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Posted: 9/15/2023 12:49:27 AM EDT
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Quoted: I am hearing more and more about younger folks not being able to read/write in cursive. I have not noticed this to be true....but I am not really in a situation where it ever comes up. To me , cursive is normal. What are your experiences with cursive? Do you see that younger folks can not read and/or write it? Do you think it matters? I can read and write in cursive. Many of my tenants, especially those under 35, cannot read or write in cursive. It’s very common for those under 30 to be unable to read or write it. The vast majority (85-90%) younger than 25 can’t read or write it. (And it’s weirder renting to someone born in 2005.) Does it matter..? It means I have to type everything. Otherwise my tenants can’t read whatever I need to communicate to them. |
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Posted: 9/15/2023 12:50:19 AM EDT
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Why is it important to write in cursive?
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Posted: 9/15/2023 1:18:56 AM EDT
[#38]
sure
we learned that in school and I write that way still today |
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Posted: 9/15/2023 1:21:49 AM EDT
[#39]
One of my hobbies is researching my family tree. Read some documents (wills, deeds) from the 1700’s and tell me cursive is a good thing.
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Posted: 9/15/2023 1:22:42 AM EDT
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In my opinion people who have good handwriting appear more professional. Someone who's writing looks like a 2nd grader just gives a bad impression.
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Posted: 9/15/2023 1:25:02 AM EDT
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I still pay most of my bills by check. I write cursive. The shitty school system out here did not teach my boys cursive, so we did it at home. Is it a problem? yes. The constitution is written in cursive.
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Posted: 9/15/2023 2:12:23 AM EDT
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I’d say it’s mostly pointless. Kids now should Spend the time learning to type and properly use word /excel / email and general pc usage instead. New grads are really not served well by mostly only knowing phones and apps and not being so well versed in actual computer skills.
As far as “sign your name”. One can teach that without the whole rigamarole or full on cursive writing or reading. First letters and some squiggles will do. And digital signatures are much more common. Sort of like we don’t teach everyone typewriter usage or how to get around on a horse. Calligraphy can still be an elective. Or taught if your career field needs it. Like say you are a history major. |
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Posted: 9/15/2023 2:23:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Constitution and declaration are cursive. Most of our governing historical documents are. That's why it's not taught anymore. Erase peoples ability to read. 
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Posted: 9/15/2023 2:31:26 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/15/2023 4:57:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I absolutely can read and write in cursive. There is some god-awful handwriting out there that is a challenge to decipher, however.  I switched to block lettering decades ago so I could read what I wrote. |
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Posted: 9/15/2023 5:31:45 AM EDT
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I have a client who has the most perfect cursive writing ever. It really is a thing of beauty.
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Posted: 9/15/2023 5:48:56 AM EDT
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Yes, I can, though it is not the neatest.
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Posted: 9/15/2023 8:54:31 AM EDT
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Out of curiosity I just tried. I remembered most letters. I wrote a few sentences and the letters I thought I didn't know I did know once I wrote. It was still as barely legible as it was 25 years ago too.
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Posted: 9/15/2023 9:08:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tear down the statues! You can find pictures on the internet! Erase history and rewrite it. Because people can’t read history. I do think it's important to have several copies of documents that you know have been rewritten correctly. I also think that about the Bible, it just usually requires several different versions. |
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Posted: 9/15/2023 9:13:28 AM EDT
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Johnson & Johnson is changing its company logo because they’re concerned that too many people are now too retarded to be able to read it.
 https://apnews.com/article/johnson-logo-change-cursive-7236463751d2ba89a7a8858c3accf162 I’m half surprised they didn’t ditch the mysterious ampersand too. |
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