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Posted: 9/4/2017 11:49:51 PM EST
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Thats fine. But I'm guessing that you don't develop national policy - or haven't worked close to that area in the past. Its not as simple as walking away once the smoke clears. It never has been. See Marshall Plan. Also see Iraq, Afghanistan et al. China basically created the entire scene anyway. Let them deal with it. Or not. IDC |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 12:24:55 AM EST
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I don't think that Kim Jong Un want's to provoke Poseidon's fury. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 12:36:06 AM EST
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China wants their buffer zone....have at it. China basically created the entire scene anyway. Let them deal with it. Or not. IDC The tiny little anime island of pixelated porn....enslaved them. We should have NEVER stole their Samurai swords? |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 1:05:19 AM EST
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Never been to the movies? Hollywood can fake anything, including earthquakes and especially the evidence one happened where nobody was there to actually validate it. Look at this graph - see it shows something! This is all about as believeable as colin powells speech on mobile chemical weapons laboritories and imminent mushroom clouds in continental US. Yet the mentally weak and doped up fucksticks can't see or are too stupid to care they are being lied to again and again and again and again and again..... 
Holly shit. Please seek professional help. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 1:16:36 AM EST
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Holly shit. Please seek professional help.
ETA: If I ever call out a normal guy for tinfoil(I wouldn't)...and actually bust out 4 ...I will spell holy shit right. It will give it a tad MOAR authority.
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Posted: 9/5/2017 1:26:54 AM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2017 1:31:12 AM EST
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Holly shit? BWAHAHHAAHAHA! That is worth 2
ETA: If I ever call out a normal guy for tinfoil(I wouldn't)...and actually bust out 4 ...I will spell holy shit right. It will give it a tad MOAR authority.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Holly shit. Please seek professional help.
ETA: If I ever call out a normal guy for tinfoil(I wouldn't)...and actually bust out 4 ...I will spell holy shit right. It will give it a tad MOAR authority..
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Posted: 9/5/2017 1:50:54 AM EST
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ETA: We can't spot a convoy of white Toyotas or a flotilla of Iranians. 
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Posted: 9/5/2017 2:20:05 AM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2017 2:27:09 AM EST
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I saw that. I would laughed if he would have ended it with "It'll be a blast"! He's got WW3 with Lil Kim, Hurricane Irma, Harvey Aftermath and DACA Announcement. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 2:28:14 AM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2017 2:39:34 AM EST
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But I don't think they have a way to stop artillery from hitting Seoul, and that's the only reason Kim is still breathing. On the bright side, Kim surely doesn't have an effective missile defense system... Except. No one HERE gives a fuck about KOREANS? 
ETA: or Korean americans...or 'mericans living as Koreans? |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 3:57:18 AM EST
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Why do I feel like we are all fixated on the hand with the rabbit when we know the trick is happening right before our eyes? Nobody can this stupid, even that little crazy fuck. I really feel like we are being played while something much bigger is happening elsewhere!  |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 4:19:21 AM EST
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Busy week. He's got WW3 with Lil Kim, Hurricane Irma, Harvey Aftermath and DACA Announcement. I think he's bearing up under the load quite nicely. 
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Posted: 9/5/2017 4:56:05 AM EST
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Trump should give China an ultimatum: Fatboy gives up his nukes and steps down, or Taiwan gets THAAD. South Korea: Re-equip Osan and Kunsan with nukes. Re-activate Kwang Ju, Suwon, and Taegu Air Bases, and nuke them up too. THAADs, C-Rams, Patriots etc. galore for all of the above. SK immediately begins developing their own domestic nuclear program with our full assistance. Japan: Same thing-- full expansion and nuke up, complemented with all best countermeasures and Japan simultaneously fast tracking domestic nuke development with our full help. Guam: Re-activate the 43rd (Nuclear) Bombardment Wing. Re-open the Nuclear weapon storage area for a full service operation, and restart the nuclear alert bomber area for on call 24/7 service. Taiwan: Covertly insert 20 fully loaded GLCM launchers and THAADS. Also install C-Ram, Patriots, equip their navy with Aegis, etc., etc., etc... Taiwan would need to be in secret, with the Nukes installed rapidly and only when they were ready to be rolled off and active. GLCMs in Taiwan would make China absolutely LOSE THEIR SHIT! We'd retain title to the GLCMs, and would be receptive to their removal once NK was completely divested of all Nuclear asssets and production capability--- directly verified by us.... What China doesn't control NK? Well, tough shit, it's a hard world. Get rid of those pesky Nork nukes, and then we can remove the nuclear shield when the neighborhood behaves. Otherwise pound sand... P.S.-- for folks who don't know what GLCMs are: 4 mobile Nuclear rounds of "Fuck You"  Attached FileWe got rid of them, but it wouldn't be a difficult system to resurrect. If it were a very high and top secret priority-- it could happen fast. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 5:11:02 AM EST
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Busy week. He's got WW3 with Lil Kim, Hurricane Irma, Harvey Aftermath and DACA Announcement. 
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Posted: 9/5/2017 12:58:52 PM EST
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@limaxray or anyone else. Does NK have the ability to detect incoming ballistic missiles? They might also have "Tin Shield" which is even more capable. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 1:24:30 PM EST
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China established the 38th parallel. (NOT US) They can STILL taste the Jap boot. The tiny little anime island of pixelated porn....enslaved them. We should have NEVER stole their Samurai swords? |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 1:24:52 PM EST
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They have the Russian "Flap Lid" and "Big Bird" radars for the S300 system. They might also have "Tin Shield" which is even more capable. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 1:59:03 PM EST
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If I was a S. Korean civilian, i'd be headed as far south as i could right about now...or see if I had any relatives in the U.S. I could visit for a few months.
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Posted: 9/5/2017 2:09:06 PM EST
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They have the Russian "Flap Lid" and "Big Bird" radars for the S300 system. They might also have "Tin Shield" which is even more capable. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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@limaxray or anyone else. Does NK have the ability to detect incoming ballistic missiles? They might also have "Tin Shield" which is even more capable. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 2:35:39 PM EST
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If I was a S. Korean civilian, i'd be headed as far south as i could right about now...or see if I had any relatives in the U.S. I could visit for a few months. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 3:30:00 PM EST
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So if a USS missile boat in the Yellow Sea launched a Prompt Global Strike missile aimed at Kim's viewing stand at the Sep 9 parade, would the the NK's be able to detect it in the minutes before it landed? |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 3:37:55 PM EST
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So if a USS missile boat in the Yellow Sea launched a Prompt Global Strike missile aimed at Kim's viewing stand at the Sep 9 parade, would the the NK's be able to detect it in the minutes before it landed? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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@limaxray or anyone else. Does NK have the ability to detect incoming ballistic missiles? They might also have "Tin Shield" which is even more capable. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 3:39:58 PM EST
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Some radar operator might see it for 45-60 seconds, if the radar is turned on, but he probably won't have time to send the intel up the chain. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 3:45:49 PM EST
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You're pretty much guaranteed in an authoritarian regime like NK, that permission to launch is going to take a minute, too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Some radar operator might see it for 45-60 seconds, if the radar is turned on, but he probably won't have time to send the intel up the chain. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 3:55:07 PM EST
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Probably. Probably can't do anything about it either. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So if a USS missile boat in the Yellow Sea launched a Prompt Global Strike missile aimed at Kim's viewing stand at the Sep 9 parade, would the the NK's be able to detect it in the minutes before it landed? Would it be a different response than, for example, what our response would be if Iran nuked Tel-Aviv? |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 4:28:42 PM EST
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We could sure use some fresh ideas to deal with this idgit. Escort them into North Korean air space, with the orders to land and take the Nork leadership on the ride of their lives. Strength through Superior Pussypower. 
The only downside is that other nations may heighten their nuclear ambitions after seeing America's "ride them into compliance" policy. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 5:09:28 PM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2017 5:10:13 PM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2017 5:57:37 PM EST
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Seriously, do you suppose they know that the Korean war is still technically on? I wonder if they've even read the wikipedia page on it. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 5:59:00 PM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:10:57 PM EST
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So if a USS missile boat in the Yellow Sea launched a Prompt Global Strike missile aimed at Kim's viewing stand at the Sep 9 parade, would the the NK's be able to detect it in the minutes before it landed? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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@limaxray or anyone else. Does NK have the ability to detect incoming ballistic missiles? They might also have "Tin Shield" which is even more capable. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:12:44 PM EST
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IMAGE: MIM-104 Patriot surface-to-air missile system protecting the airspace above Seoul, South Korea.
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:14:31 PM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:24:39 PM EST
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A B2 with it's belly full of JDAMs is harder to detect. A ballistic missile can be launched from 50 miles out of Pyongyang and will come down at mach 5. They make them for subs with conventional warheads, AFAIK. We could do him, most of his ministry, most of mil leadership, and simultaneously hit all NK nuke sites similarly, catch them with their pants down. Godfather ending type of attack. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:29:47 PM EST
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My plan involves possible confirmed static location of Kim Jung Un and his entourage during the Sep 9th indepence day parade. So big black bomber overhead is pretty obvious, especially considering the likely aircraft flyover traffic. A ballistic missile can be launched from 50 miles out of Pyongyang and will come down at mach 5. They make them for subs with conventional warheads, AFAIK. We could do him, most of his ministry, most of mil leadership, and simultaneously hit all NK nuke sites similarly, catch them with their pants down. Godfather ending type of attack. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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A B2 with it's belly full of JDAMs is harder to detect. A ballistic missile can be launched from 50 miles out of Pyongyang and will come down at mach 5. They make them for subs with conventional warheads, AFAIK. We could do him, most of his ministry, most of mil leadership, and simultaneously hit all NK nuke sites similarly, catch them with their pants down. Godfather ending type of attack. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:39:19 PM EST
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Yeah - they'll never think of that. Especially 2 months after he started to use doubles to avoid such a decapitation. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:50:01 PM EST
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Ok here's my opening bid... South Korea: Re-equip Osan and Kunsan with nukes. Re-activate Kwang Ju, Suwon, and Taegu Air Bases, and nuke them up too. THAADs, C-Rams, Patriots etc. galore for all of the above. SK immediately begins developing their own domestic nuclear program with our full assistance. Japan: Same thing-- full expansion and nuke up, complemented with all best countermeasures and Japan simultaneously fast tracking domestic nuke development with our full help. Guam: Re-activate the 43rd (Nuclear) Bombardment Wing. Re-open the Nuclear weapon storage area for a full service operation, and restart the nuclear alert bomber area for on call 24/7 service. Taiwan: Covertly insert 20 fully loaded GLCM launchers and THAADS. Also install C-Ram, Patriots, equip their navy with Aegis, etc., etc., etc... Taiwan would need to be in secret, with the Nukes installed rapidly and only when they were ready to be rolled off and active. GLCMs in Taiwan would make China absolutely LOSE THEIR SHIT! We'd retain title to the GLCMs, and would be receptive to their removal once NK was completely divested of all Nuclear asssets and production capability--- directly verified by us.... What China doesn't control NK? Well, tough shit, it's a hard world. Get rid of those pesky Nork nukes, and then we can remove the nuclear shield when the neighborhood behaves. Otherwise pound sand... P.S.-- for folks who don't know what GLCMs are: 4 mobile Nuclear rounds of "Fuck You" https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53338/IMG_1506-299569.JPG We got rid of them, but it wouldn't be a difficult system to resurrect. If it were a very high and top secret priority-- it could happen fast. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump should give China an ultimatum: Fatboy gives up his nukes and steps down, or Taiwan gets THAAD. South Korea: Re-equip Osan and Kunsan with nukes. Re-activate Kwang Ju, Suwon, and Taegu Air Bases, and nuke them up too. THAADs, C-Rams, Patriots etc. galore for all of the above. SK immediately begins developing their own domestic nuclear program with our full assistance. Japan: Same thing-- full expansion and nuke up, complemented with all best countermeasures and Japan simultaneously fast tracking domestic nuke development with our full help. Guam: Re-activate the 43rd (Nuclear) Bombardment Wing. Re-open the Nuclear weapon storage area for a full service operation, and restart the nuclear alert bomber area for on call 24/7 service. Taiwan: Covertly insert 20 fully loaded GLCM launchers and THAADS. Also install C-Ram, Patriots, equip their navy with Aegis, etc., etc., etc... Taiwan would need to be in secret, with the Nukes installed rapidly and only when they were ready to be rolled off and active. GLCMs in Taiwan would make China absolutely LOSE THEIR SHIT! We'd retain title to the GLCMs, and would be receptive to their removal once NK was completely divested of all Nuclear asssets and production capability--- directly verified by us.... What China doesn't control NK? Well, tough shit, it's a hard world. Get rid of those pesky Nork nukes, and then we can remove the nuclear shield when the neighborhood behaves. Otherwise pound sand... P.S.-- for folks who don't know what GLCMs are: 4 mobile Nuclear rounds of "Fuck You" https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/53338/IMG_1506-299569.JPG We got rid of them, but it wouldn't be a difficult system to resurrect. If it were a very high and top secret priority-- it could happen fast. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:50:46 PM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:53:45 PM EST
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Yeah - they'll never think of that. Especially 2 months after he started to use doubles to avoid such a decapitation. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:54:16 PM EST
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The chicken is in the pot.
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:55:30 PM EST
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:58:06 PM EST
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Don't we have the ability to shoot them down and if so, why not post a ship out there to do it?
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:58:56 PM EST
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Don't we have the ability to shoot them down and if so, why not post a ship out there to do it? |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 8:10:59 PM EST
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So you think he's going to send a double to host the biggest public appearance of the year without anyone finding out? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah - they'll never think of that. Especially 2 months after he started to use doubles to avoid such a decapitation. "Anyone finding out"?? 1. Who exactly is going to "find out"? 2. What do you think would happen if someone in the regime said something about it? Its not as if they are inviting the world media to cover it. This is the most secretive and controlling country in the world. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 8:13:52 PM EST
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Why should we care? I never did figure this out.
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Posted: 9/5/2017 8:22:12 PM EST
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Why should we care? I never did figure this out. I can't muster any fucks to give |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 8:24:00 PM EST
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He has done it recently at a launch site. Its not guessing - he is doing it. "Anyone finding out"?? 1. Who exactly is going to "find out"? 2. What do you think would happen if someone in the regime said something about it? Its not as if they are inviting the world media to cover it. This is the most secretive and controlling country in the world. The Sep 9th parade isn't a midnight missile launch in the middle of nowhere, its fat boy presiding on an old style commie parade involving hundreds of thousands of people all looking at Kim Chunk Un. Its one of the biggest of the year. SK or others obviously have some HUMINT in country, though likely limited. Any number of whom can hide a phone and binos and report back if its really Kim. And that's joe blow, i bet someone has mid to high level people some outside Intel agency have compromised who can feed us the Intel should we pay enough. NK are corrupt as fuck, they would do a lot for duffel bag worth of cash. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 8:32:01 PM EST
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Its not a guarantee he'll be there but you're acting as if there is no chance he'll be there and I'd like to know how you know this. Is it based off your knowledge of security measures commonly used by dictators or is it on your inside knowledge of Kim himself and the NK govt The Sep 9th parade isn't a midnight missile launch in the middle of nowhere, its fat boy presiding on an old style commie parade involving hundreds of thousands of people all looking at Kim Chunk Un. Its one of the biggest of the year. SK or others obviously have some HUMINT in country, though likely limited. Any number of whom can hide a phone and binos and report back if its really Kim. And that's joe blow, i bet someone has mid to high level people some outside Intel agency have compromised who can feed us the Intel should we pay enough. NK are corrupt as fuck, they would do a lot for duffel bag worth of cash. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He has done it recently at a launch site. Its not guessing - he is doing it. "Anyone finding out"?? 1. Who exactly is going to "find out"? 2. What do you think would happen if someone in the regime said something about it? Its not as if they are inviting the world media to cover it. This is the most secretive and controlling country in the world. The Sep 9th parade isn't a midnight missile launch in the middle of nowhere, its fat boy presiding on an old style commie parade involving hundreds of thousands of people all looking at Kim Chunk Un. Its one of the biggest of the year. SK or others obviously have some HUMINT in country, though likely limited. Any number of whom can hide a phone and binos and report back if its really Kim. And that's joe blow, i bet someone has mid to high level people some outside Intel agency have compromised who can feed us the Intel should we pay enough. NK are corrupt as fuck, they would do a lot for duffel bag worth of cash. |
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