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Posted: 7/21/2016 7:49:10 AM EST
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Looks like the two suspects were extremely agitated and making furtive movements and not following commands/orders. The one suspect with the weapon should've dropped the weapon. These tactical situations have many variables and can evolve from one extreme situation to another and due to the extreme tension can end rather badly for the suspects Are you drunk or trolling? |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 7:49:59 AM EST
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Thanks for the quote trees. We didn't see the quote the first hundred times.
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Posted: 7/21/2016 7:52:17 AM EST
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3 rounds seems excessive for an ND, unless they have rifles with burst? Unless something crazy happened in the cut footage, something is fucky.
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Posted: 7/21/2016 7:52:32 AM EST
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was there an actual 911 call that would merit even having a sidearm drawn?
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Posted: 7/21/2016 7:53:21 AM EST
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Well, that don't look good.
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Posted: 7/21/2016 7:56:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Negligent Discharge. I'm calling it. High possibility.... |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 7:56:28 AM EST
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Gonna get paid big time....  < He's dead, Jim.
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Posted: 7/21/2016 7:56:34 AM EST
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If you asked a member of ISIS why they shot somebody they wouldn't answer "I don't know". I mean,say what you want about the tenets of Salafist terrorism at least it's an ethos. Maybe see if you can change tour screen name to "outofline"? |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 7:57:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, that don't look good. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:00:06 AM EST
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If the story is accurate, I'd wager it was an ND.
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:00:35 AM EST
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That's the world we live in. Absolutely no need for cops with rifles to even be pointed at those two what the hell. I understand being aware but treating every person like they're a potential terrorist is ridiculous.
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:01:11 AM EST
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[url]http://media.photobucket.com/user/DanielHenke/media/Hesdeadjim_zpsb6d289e9.jpg.html?filters[term]=He's%20dead%20Jim&filters[primary]=images&filters[secondary]=videos&sort=1&o=19[/url] < He's dead, Jim. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Gonna get paid big time.... [url]http://media.photobucket.com/user/DanielHenke/media/Hesdeadjim_zpsb6d289e9.jpg.html?filters[term]=He's%20dead%20Jim&filters[primary]=images&filters[secondary]=videos&sort=1&o=19[/url] < He's dead, Jim. He sure does talk a lot for a dead guy. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:01:45 AM EST
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Negligent Discharge. I'm calling it. Sounds like that at the moment. Even the police need to follow the fundamental rules of gun safety. AKA keep your damn finger of the trigger. Hard to say with missing video. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:03:01 AM EST
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He sure does talk a lot for a dead guy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Gonna get paid big time.... He's dead, Jim. He sure does talk a lot for a dead guy. 
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:03:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Gonna get paid big time.... He's dead, Jim. He sure does talk a lot for a dead guy.  http://youtu.be/4X8aX4W7ubohe got better |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:03:32 AM EST
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That's the world we live in. Absolutely no need for cops with rifles to even be pointed at those two what the hell. I understand being aware but treating every person like they're a potential terrorist is ridiculous. When the police receive a man-with-a-gun call that mentions threats of suicide, they should absolutely be very cautious. But "cautious" does not mean violating Rule 1: Don't point your firearm at anything you are not prepared to kill. A proper low ready would be acceptable. Based on what little there is so far, I'd say an ND is the most likely explanation for this. Unfortunately careful observation of the rules of gun handling are not often enforced strictly at police departments. Stuff that's dangerous and wrong is often ignored because nobody got shot. I know of an instance where a police officer fired their weapon unintentionally and narrowly missed the head of another officer in the same room...but with absolutely no disciplinary action taken whatsoever. Because A. Diversity! and B. Nobody got shot, so it's not a big deal. You can guess where "But nobody got shot!" thinking ends up. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:03:37 AM EST
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Sounds like that at the moment. Even the police need to follow the fundamental rules of gun safety. AKA keep your damn finger of the trigger. Hard to say with missing video. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Negligent Discharge. I'm calling it. Sounds like that at the moment. Even the police need to follow the fundamental rules of gun safety. AKA keep your damn finger of the trigger. Hard to say with missing video. According to the guy who was shot and his lawyer, the PD has already approached about a settlement. If that's true, it sure sounds like it. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:04:10 AM EST
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Ephesians 6:12 A lot of you aren't ready or receptive to this message, but here goes: What do you think causes the rulers and agents of our government to act in this way? Our government has legalized murdering children and bondage (income tax). Who do you think its agents are really working for? Here's a hint: not you and not God and his Son. When you watch videos like this and wonder how police can make such poor decisions, it's because they're not making the decisions at all. There is a darker force pulling the strings. This is the work of Satan, and we are in the last days. When you say "I love Jesus" backward real fast with a British accent,it comes out as "As Satan I command all my police minions to kill as ordered by me and the New World Order". It's pretty scary. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:04:11 AM EST
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Not sure if posted, but a longer news story/interview here.
http://wsvn.com/news/local/video-shows-moments-before-north-miami-police-shot-unarmed-man/ 1) This looks like a horrible, horrible shoot. This guy should be not have to work again, ever, if he doesn't want to, and the cop that shot him should be able to get no employment higher than dishwasher at waffle house. 2) Miami newscasters. Dang! Edit: interview posted while I was watching/typing. Points stand! |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:04:26 AM EST
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Negligent Discharge. I'm calling it. +1 Yep. The news is cutting the actual shoot because it "graphic." But I'm betting officer numbnuts was aiming at the autistic kid and hit the guy. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:06:11 AM EST
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Gonna get paid big time.... He's dead, Jim. He sure does talk a lot for a dead guy. http://youtu.be/4X8aX4W7uboDEAD PERSON: I'm getting better!
CUSTOMER: No, you're not -- you'll be stone dead in a moment. MORTICIAN: Oh, I can't take him like that -- it's against regulations. DEAD PERSON: I don't want to go in the cart! CUSTOMER: Oh, don't be such a baby. MORTICIAN: I can't take him... DEAD PERSON: I feel fine! CUSTOMER: Oh, do us a favor... MORTICIAN: I can't. CUSTOMER: Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? He won't be long. MORTICIAN: Naaah, I got to go on to Robinson's -- they've lost nine today. CUSTOMER: Well, when is your next round? MORTICIAN: Thursday. DEAD PERSON: I think I'll go for a walk. CUSTOMER: You're not fooling anyone y'know. Look, isn't there something you can do? DEAD PERSON: I feel happy... I feel happy. [whop] CUSTOMER: Ah, thanks very much. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:07:34 AM EST
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DEAD PERSON: I'm getting better!
CUSTOMER: No, you're not -- you'll be stone dead in a moment. MORTICIAN: Oh, I can't take him like that -- it's against regulations. DEAD PERSON: I don't want to go in the cart! CUSTOMER: Oh, don't be such a baby. MORTICIAN: I can't take him... DEAD PERSON: I feel fine! CUSTOMER: Oh, do us a favor... MORTICIAN: I can't. CUSTOMER: Well, can you hang around a couple of minutes? He won't be long. MORTICIAN: Naaah, I got to go on to Robinson's -- they've lost nine today. CUSTOMER: Well, when is your next round? MORTICIAN: Thursday. DEAD PERSON: I think I'll go for a walk. CUSTOMER: You're not fooling anyone y'know. Look, isn't there something you can do? DEAD PERSON: I feel happy... I feel happy. [whop] CUSTOMER: Ah, thanks very much. 
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:10:22 AM EST
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We just can't seem to catch a break. Fuck. I'm getting tired. 
You guys need to start outing the the known bad ones, there's no brotherhood when they keep dragging the good ones down the drain. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:16:30 AM EST
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where did all the "we need the full story" people go?
oh wait |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:17:10 AM EST
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I vote bad shoot assuming there is something substantial in the missing video. Like the autistic guy pulled a gun and a cop fired and missed and hit the black guy on accident. Black guy admitted he was trying to control the autistic man which gives him force multiplier advantage. You can't underestimate retard strength. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:17:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You guys need to start outing the the known bad ones, there's no brotherhood when they keep dragging the good ones down the drain. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We just can't seem to catch a break. Fuck. I'm getting tired. You guys need to start outing the the known bad ones, there's no brotherhood when they keep dragging the good ones down the drain. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:17:39 AM EST
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Interested in seeing the qualification scores from range day/week where Mr. Officer tested.
Rifle handling and accuracy do not seem to be his forte'. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:18:01 AM EST
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Black guy admitted he was trying to control the autistic man which gives him force multiplier advantage. You can't underestimate retard strength. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I vote bad shoot assuming there is something substantial in the missing video. Like the autistic guy pulled a gun and a cop fired and missed and hit the black guy on accident. Black guy admitted he was trying to control the autistic man which gives him force multiplier advantage. You can't underestimate retard strength. never underestimate retarded posting, either.
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:19:18 AM EST
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I'll tag in with the ND on burst crowd
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:20:37 AM EST
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Do w have a complete video yet?
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:20:44 AM EST
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guy(s) lucky to be alive
bad shoot gives other blue-suitors a bad name |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:21:41 AM EST
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You guys need to start outing the the known bad ones, there's no brotherhood when they keep dragging the good ones down the drain. Out them to who? You make it sound like the higher ups don't know who the shitbirds are. Every cop I ever worked with who got fired and/or arrested was a known disaster that the admin/brass/IA refused to do anything about for years even after dozens of complaints from fellow officers. ETA: Perfect example is Joe Trimboli's IA investigation of Michael Dowd years ago and how the brass blocked him from doing anything even through they knew Dowd was a dirty cop. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:24:20 AM EST
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guy(s) lucky to be alive bad shoot gives other blue-suitors a bad name Again, do we have a complete video yet? |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:26:17 AM EST
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"BANG!"
"Stop or I'll.. uh ... shoot!" |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:35:45 AM EST
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Ephesians 6:12 A lot of you aren't ready or receptive to this message, but here goes: What do you think causes the rulers and agents of our government to act in this way? Our government has legalized murdering children and bondage (income tax). Who do you think its agents are really working for? Here's a hint: not you and not God and his Son. When you watch videos like this and wonder how police can make such poor decisions, it's because they're not making the decisions at all. There is a darker force pulling the strings. This is the work of Satan, and we are in the last days.
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:38:11 AM EST
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You guys really think the news is going to show the actual shooting during prime time? This isn't youtube, children. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They're gonna go crazy with the hands up don't shoot on this one. At least this one is true. really? where is the video of the shooting? You guys really think the news is going to show the actual shooting during prime time? This isn't youtube, children. Yes, they would and have for other shootings |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:42:26 AM EST
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Gonna get paid big time.... He's dead, Jim. He sure does talk a lot for a dead guy. http://youtu.be/4X8aX4W7ubohe got better He stay woke. 
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:46:31 AM EST
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According to the guy who was shot and his lawyer, the PD has already approached about a settlement. If that's true, it sure sounds like it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Negligent Discharge. I'm calling it. Sounds like that at the moment. Even the police need to follow the fundamental rules of gun safety. AKA keep your damn finger of the trigger. Hard to say with missing video. According to the guy who was shot and his lawyer, the PD has already approached about a settlement. If that's true, it sure sounds like it. And this is the thing that bugs people (not BLM) about the different rules for cops. Cop does a bad shoot? Settlement and CYA... Citizen involved in a shoot, good or bad? Pepper your angus... 
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:49:57 AM EST
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where did all the "we need the full story" people go? oh wait Right here. Here is another shooting. Cut a chunk out of the middle and you have another fully compliant suspect suddenly turning into a dead guy. Weird shit happens, right now all we have is guy got shot and he says "hands up don't shoot"
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:51:28 AM EST
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His lawyer must be cringing when the guy says the shot was "like a mosquito bite"
Although these days I suppose they are going to write you a big check to not get the community whipped up into a frenzy
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:51:56 AM EST
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And this is the thing that bugs people (not BLM) about the different rules for cops. Cop does a bad shoot? Settlement and CYA... Citizen involved in a shoot, good or bad? Pepper your angus... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Negligent Discharge. I'm calling it. Sounds like that at the moment. Even the police need to follow the fundamental rules of gun safety. AKA keep your damn finger of the trigger. Hard to say with missing video. According to the guy who was shot and his lawyer, the PD has already approached about a settlement. If that's true, it sure sounds like it. And this is the thing that bugs people (not BLM) about the different rules for cops. Cop does a bad shoot? Settlement and CYA... Citizen involved in a shoot, good or bad? Pepper your angus... Civil and criminal liability are two different things, pursued down two different paths. Internal discipline is yet a third thing, pursued down yet another path. None of these things are instant, as the real world is not a one hour (including commercials,) television drama. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:53:27 AM EST
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IN for full video
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:54:00 AM EST
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His lawyer must be cringing when the guy says the shot was "like a mosquito bite" Although these days I suppose they are going to write you a big check to not get the community whipped up into a frenzyMeh, his lawyer can surely find quite a few people who can testify that the moment of getting shot felt like a mosquito bite, a bee sting, a hot sensation, a punch, but then testify to the pain that follows once the shock wears off, and the lengthy, and often only partial, recovery process. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 8:56:46 AM EST
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His lawyer must be cringing when the guy says the shot was "like a mosquito bite" Although these days I suppose they are going to write you a big check to not get the community whipped up into a frenzy"Something jumped up and bit mee Lt.Dan!" |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 9:01:48 AM EST
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So your patient runs off, and you call 911 and say he's suicidal and has a gun?
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I think the 911 caller was the caretaker after the retard took off and wanted to fix the glitch. Little did he know the trigger happy cop would shoot the colored than the dullard. So your patient runs off, and you call 911 and say he's suicidal and has a gun?
From what I gather the 911 caller WAS NOT the caretaker. I doubt very seriously that a professional counselor would tell 911 that a boy with a truck had a gun. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 9:05:15 AM EST
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Even when we get a full video the cop literally says "I don't know" when asked why he shot, he is fucked.
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Posted: 7/21/2016 9:10:32 AM EST
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Again, let's wait for the facts...........lots of video missing. Why is there video missing? If he got shot for no reason? Sure, charge the officer. Wait for the missing video. either way you can hear the guy telling them he is a therapist and the fat guy is autistic, which would be easily verifiable by sending an officer or calling to validate without having to escalate the situation unnecessarily the stinking clinic is probably not too far away. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 9:15:42 AM EST
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*SNIP* The suggestion was made that perhaps the knee-jerk reaction to avoid publicly admitting fault among colleagues was somewhat unique to law enforcement. The original complainants didn't come back to the thread. It was quite eye-opening. Medical is like this as well, for both valid and invalid reasons. Particularly within mutual systems/corporations. Ethics and honesty tend to get clouded when the liability and professional ramifications can put you out of a job in increasingly risk-adverse climates where alternative options may be limited due to network consolidations. There's pride in being honest, but I know of at least one physician who was black-balled from working in a metro area for speaking out against others within his own network. Later ended up committing suicide under some odd circumstances. Back to the video at hand, ND from the low-ready with a stray fragment striking the victim's leg sounds very plausible. |
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Posted: 7/21/2016 9:16:43 AM EST
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Fire the cop & prosecute him for Attempted Manslaughter or Aggravated Battery.
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Posted: 7/21/2016 9:18:00 AM EST
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I'm thinking they thought the fat guy had a weapon and missed him the "I don't know"( why I shot ) quote if accurate is going to hang that cop I suspect Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Negligent Discharge. I'm calling it. Officer fired 3 times.... Something totally fucky about this story.. the "I don't know"( why I shot ) quote if accurate is going to hang that cop I suspect It's clear from the video that the fat guy had no gun in his hands. |
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