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Posted: 10/10/2017 1:52:01 PM EDT
[#1]
With 18 months to prepare, barring a major injury during training, I absolutely could complete bud/s.
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Posted: 10/10/2017 1:52:58 PM EDT
[#2]
I can swim.
I hate swimming. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 1:56:48 PM EDT
[#3]
Needs a maybe option. I could get in good enough physical condition in 18 months to start the course, but I that's all could guarantee.
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Posted: 10/10/2017 1:58:31 PM EDT
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"I met my (future) wife and didn't go, though. " That sort of decision making does not scream, "mentally tough." I'd make the same choice again. My wife saved my life. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 1:59:42 PM EDT
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If I was still 24 and knew then what I know now? MAYBE...that’s a big maybe.
One of my brothers friends is going to try and become a green beret. He’s in way better shape, mentally tough and he’s sweating the physical part |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:02:37 PM EDT
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There have been guys who showed up to BUD/S that did not know how to swim, eg AJ, from the movie Act of Valor. I think most of the dudes here who say they can pass BUD/S think it's JUST running and swimming and being "in shape." You got no fucking clue. 55 degree fucking water for 5 days? GTFO. Anybody see that pic of Jason Redman at the finish of BUD/S? The dude LOOKS like he couldn't make a high-school JV football team. Sitting in the surf zone in 50 degree water and thanking the guy next to you for pissing, because you has a second of warmth.... |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:08:02 PM EDT
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Not just no, but HELL NAW! No way I'm wearing Navy uniform(s), ever.  
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:09:49 PM EDT
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Have you ever met a SEAL those fucks are hard core crazy I had 7 in my airborne school chalk with me. 3 got recycled for climbing the 350 foot towers and doing pull ups on them  |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:09:54 PM EDT
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+1 24% of Arf respondents think they could pass BUD/S That's some funny shit!   an arfcom fitness thread combined with sealdeltaberetswat team awesomeness |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:13:39 PM EDT
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If the 13 old fat guys at the gun show were former seals, I can certainly pass.
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:32:33 PM EDT
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Hell no. I remember reading somewhere that the oldest graduate was 39. That's insane. A friend went through and fucked up his ankle right before the last week. When he enlisted his dad said “Oh you think those BUDs is hard? I passed a kidney stone while your mother was in labor with you.” |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:35:59 PM EDT
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You could be ready in 3 months. There's more to it than that.
When you go, there's a huge prep pipeline...helps on the physical but not the mental. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:37:07 PM EDT
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Thought this was interesting
Top 10 Things You Need to Know Before You Go to BUD/S 1. Arrive Fit! Not just able to do the minimum scores but the above average recommended PFT scores: - 500 yds swim - under 9:00 - Pushups - 100 in 2:00 - Situps - 100 in 2:00 - Pullups - 20 - 1.5 mile run - under 9:00 in boots and pants 2. Run in Boots and Swim with Fins At least 3-4 months prior to arriving at BUD/s get the legs used to swimming with fins and running in boots. They issue Bates 924s and UDT or Rocket Fins at BUD/S. The fins are difficult to find, so any stiff fin that requires you to wear booties will do. 5. BUD/S is Six Months Long Prepare for the long term, not the short term. Too many people lose focus early on their training and quit. It would be similar to training for a 10K race and running a Marathon by accident. You have to be mentally focused on running the Marathon - in this case a six month "marathon." 6. Weekly Physical Tests The four mile timed runs are weekly and occur on the beach - hard packed sand next to the water line. They are tough, but not bad if you prepare properly. The 2 mile ocean swims are not bad either if you are used to swimming with fins when you arrive. The obstacle course will get you too if you are not used to climbing ropes and doing pullups. Upperbody strength is tested to the max with this test. 8. Flutterkicks This seems to be a tough exercise for many. Practice 4 count flutterkicks with your abdominal workouts and shoot for sets of at least 100. There maybe a day you have to do 1000 flutterkicks. By the way - that takes 45 minutes! |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:39:36 PM EDT
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It would be interesting to try, I'd like to know how much of a bitch I am compared to those dudes.
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:40:58 PM EDT
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You could be ready in 3 months. There's more to it than that. When you go, there's a huge prep pipeline...helps on the physical but not the mental. If you don't have the discipline to get up every day and give yourself a tune up, then I don't really consider you all that mentally tough. Being fit and having discipline certainly isn't all that it takes, but if you can't even push yourself enough to achieve that.....then what makes anyone think they'd pass ANY sort of difficult test? |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:43:12 PM EDT
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We carried Seals a few times when my ship was in the Gulf. Most of them that I met were not overly muscular. They were fit and often quiet on the ship. However, when they did speak you could tell there was something a little different about them. Not saying that was a bad thing or a good thing but it was noticeable and I can’t really put my finger on it.
And to answer the question, no fucking way. Not even when I was at the peak of my physical fitness. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:43:42 PM EDT
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Thought this was interesting Top 10 Things You Need to Know Before You Go to BUD/S 1. Arrive Fit! Not just able to do the minimum scores but the above average recommended PFT scores: - 500 yds swim - under 9:00 - Pushups - 100 in 2:00 - Situps - 100 in 2:00 - Pullups - 20 - 1.5 mile run - under 9:00 in boots and pants 2. Run in Boots and Swim with Fins At least 3-4 months prior to arriving at BUD/s get the legs used to swimming with fins and running in boots. They issue Bates 924s and UDT or Rocket Fins at BUD/S. The fins are difficult to find, so any stiff fin that requires you to wear booties will do. 5. BUD/S is Six Months Long Prepare for the long term, not the short term. Too many people lose focus early on their training and quit. It would be similar to training for a 10K race and running a Marathon by accident. You have to be mentally focused on running the Marathon - in this case a six month "marathon." 6. Weekly Physical Tests The four mile timed runs are weekly and occur on the beach - hard packed sand next to the water line. They are tough, but not bad if you prepare properly. The 2 mile ocean swims are not bad either if you are used to swimming with fins when you arrive. The obstacle course will get you too if you are not used to climbing ropes and doing pullups. Upperbody strength is tested to the max with this test. 8. Flutterkicks This seems to be a tough exercise for many. Practice 4 count flutterkicks with your abdominal workouts and shoot for sets of at least 100. There maybe a day you have to do 1000 flutterkicks. By the way - that takes 45 minutes! *Flame suit on, prepared to be asked when I ship and prepared for lackies to try and make me feel bad because I'm fit. ETA: Arfcom really should have some sort of competition that doesn't require you to chug poison till you puke. No gimmicks, just good ole physical torture. I'd go in a heart beat. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:47:39 PM EDT
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I guess the mental part would be the weak link for me, because I crush all that shit physically speaking.* *Flame suit on, prepared to be asked when I ship and prepared for lackies to try and make me feel bad because I'm fit. ETA: Arfcom really should have some sort of competition that doesn't require you to chug poison till you puke. No gimmicks, just good ole physical torture. I'd go in a heart beat. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:52:28 PM EDT
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It would be interesting to try, I'd like to know how much of a bitch I am compared to those dudes. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:52:50 PM EDT
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Chugging until you puke is physical torture, the other shit is cake.
Coca cola. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:53:20 PM EDT
[#21]
Schools like BUD/S are more than physical and mental toughness. They're about misery, gut check. They are designed to weed out even those who are in excellent shape by increasing the suck factor till everyone who isn't 100% committed to being a SEAL quits.
In that regard, since I have no desire to ever have been a SEAL, even in my best physical shape plus a year 1.5 years of prep, plus lots of steroids and HGH, I'd still fail because who the fuck wants to be a SEAL? Kids who play too many video games or watch too many movies, who usually know fuck all about warfare, military history, or the realities of ground combat. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:54:11 PM EDT
[#22]
Lol, no.
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:56:57 PM EDT
[#23]
I'm 38 now. Even in my prime at 18 - 20's I couldn't do it. Never have been comfortable in water. The athleticism wouldn't have been a problem. The water mental game would kill me. I would have to spend 18 months just learning to swim and then another 18 just to get comfortable. Not gonna happen. I had dreamed of aspirations for some type sf career but I'm honest and realistic with myself. Serious swim work would have to be put in.
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:57:09 PM EDT
[#24]
If I do sweating to the oldies for a few weeks will that set me up for a success in seal training?
should do it for me that tape is TOUGH |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:58:45 PM EDT
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At age 60?
No. Nope. NO. I'd probably stumble getting off the bus and break an ankle. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 2:59:46 PM EDT
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You’ve got a quality beard, so you’ve met one of the requirements already. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:00:50 PM EDT
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I get tired DRIVING to my PT test.....
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:01:14 PM EDT
[#28]
Going on 51, way too much joint and lung damage to be able to do BUD/S even with 18 months to lose weight and build muscle
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:02:02 PM EDT
[#29]
No.
I have some serious hangups regarding claustrophobia in the water. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:02:50 PM EDT
[#30]
Looking at the pipeline failure rate, if a person can make it past first phase, then they're likely to graduate, so the real question is can you get to and gut out first phase.
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:02:55 PM EDT
[#31]
Nope. Don't have the mental/emotional strength.
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:03:56 PM EDT
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No. I have some serious hangups regarding claustrophobia in the water. What is it about water that makes you uncomfortable? I've never heard of this so I'm genuinely asking. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:05:08 PM EDT
[#33]
I'm 45. No way.
If I had 18 months to prepare, and same social freedom in your scenario (no family, obligations, etc..) I am confident I could make it through Basic Training again, but that aint sayin much. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:07:38 PM EDT
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Coca cola. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:12:00 PM EDT
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In my opinion, being physically fit is part of mental toughness. If you don't have the discipline to get up every day and give yourself a tune up, then I don't really consider you all that mentally tough. Being fit and having discipline certainly isn't all that it takes, but if you can't even push yourself enough to achieve that.....then what makes anyone think they'd pass ANY sort of difficult test? 
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:12:16 PM EDT
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most people have no idea what they can do and what they cant do
or even what they'd be good at or not good at I can't tell you how many times bright minded people have told me that they started engineering school but "they couldn't handle the math" the truth is that they couldn't handle sitting there working the problems until it clicked, which might take 2 or 3 hours per assignment I can't do it = I don't feel like doing it suppose they locked you in a jail cell with four calculus books and said you can leave when you get an A+ in all four courses most people with an IQ over about 110 could leave jail eventually. might take some of them 5 years but it would happen so who knows? maybe it all comes down to desire if desire > pain, maybe you could do it |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:14:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:15:29 PM EDT
[#38]
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Thought this was interesting Top 10 Things You Need to Know Before You Go to BUD/S 1. Arrive Fit! Not just able to do the minimum scores but the above average recommended PFT scores: - 500 yds swim - under 9:00 - Pushups - 100 in 2:00 - Situps - 100 in 2:00 - Pullups - 20 - 1.5 mile run - under 9:00 in boots and pants 2. Run in Boots and Swim with Fins At least 3-4 months prior to arriving at BUD/s get the legs used to swimming with fins and running in boots. They issue Bates 924s and UDT or Rocket Fins at BUD/S. The fins are difficult to find, so any stiff fin that requires you to wear booties will do. 5. BUD/S is Six Months Long Prepare for the long term, not the short term. Too many people lose focus early on their training and quit. It would be similar to training for a 10K race and running a Marathon by accident. You have to be mentally focused on running the Marathon - in this case a six month "marathon." 6. Weekly Physical Tests The four mile timed runs are weekly and occur on the beach - hard packed sand next to the water line. They are tough, but not bad if you prepare properly. The 2 mile ocean swims are not bad either if you are used to swimming with fins when you arrive. The obstacle course will get you too if you are not used to climbing ropes and doing pullups. Upperbody strength is tested to the max with this test. 8. Flutterkicks This seems to be a tough exercise for many. Practice 4 count flutterkicks with your abdominal workouts and shoot for sets of at least 100. There maybe a day you have to do 1000 flutterkicks. By the way - that takes 45 minutes! Has anyone posted what the required underwater swim for passing is? I could do all of the above, but that swim is probably a no go. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:16:39 PM EDT
[#39]
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suppose they locked you in a jail cell with four calculus books and said you can leave when you get an A+ in all four courses
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:19:14 PM EDT
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most people have no idea what they can do and what they cant do or even what they'd be good at or not good at I can't tell you how many times bright minded people have told me that they started engineering school but "they couldn't handle the math" the truth is that they couldn't handle sitting there working the problems until it clicked, which might take 2 or 3 hours per assignment I can't do it = I don't feel like doing it suppose they locked you in a jail cell with four calculus books and said you can leave when you get an A+ in all four courses most people with an IQ over about 110 could leave jail eventually. might take some of them 5 years but it would happen so who knows? maybe it all comes down to desire if desire > pain, maybe you could do it
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:20:44 PM EDT
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Interesting. Claustrophobia IN the water. You're not meaning claustrophobia AND water? What is it about water that makes you uncomfortable? I've never heard of this so I'm genuinely asking. Honestly it may be something that could be trained out of me, but it would be a big hang up. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:24:35 PM EDT
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Current age? Definitely not.
When I was 24? I would give myself about a 15% chance. I was a decent athlete. Ran track and CC in college. The constant discomfort, cold surf+sand+abuse. Probably not. Now that I think on it a little bit more, maybe a 5% chance. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:25:22 PM EDT
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With my fcked up shoulder I can barely put on a Tshirt.
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:26:47 PM EDT
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You're right, it's claustrophobia amplified by being in the water. Being blindfolded upside down while trying to disassemble/reassemble equipment underwater would generate a great deal of panic. Honestly it may be something that could be trained out of me, but it would be a big hang up. You'd probably hate something like a ditch and recover exercise though. Be 20 feet under water and have someone pull your mask off and regulator out of your mouth. Swim to the surface, get your breath then swim back down for your gear. Finding the reg while the salt water is burning your eyes and you're low on air was not fun. I don't mind the water at all but it's a little hairy. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:30:03 PM EDT
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The only time I drink pop all year is at Cola Warrior, and it's what separates the winners and losers. I'm in the same time frame as winners when I start my chug....then it all goes to shit. I'll work out all year to prepare, but chugging is way worse than any "pain" I've been in from running and lifting. I've never been able to chug though, it's my kryptonite. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:31:00 PM EDT
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Huh. And yeah I'm sure you could overcome it. You'd probably hate something like a ditch and recover exercise though. Be 20 feet under water and have someone pull your mask off and regulator out of your mouth. Swim to the surface, get your breath then swim back down for your gear. Finding the reg while the salt water is burning your eyes and you're low on air was not fun. I don't mind the water at all but it's a little hairy. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:55:58 PM EDT
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Thinking about it a little more. Some of the water stuff would probably have gotten me washed out.
I'm a decent swimmer but I don't know how well I would handle doing tasks underwater while oxygen deprived. The urge to get to the surface RIGHT NOW is pretty strong for me. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 3:56:13 PM EDT
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In my opinion, being physically fit is part of mental toughness. If you don't have the discipline to get up every day and give yourself a tune up, then I don't really consider you all that mentally tough. Being fit and having discipline certainly isn't all that it takes, but if you can't even push yourself enough to achieve that.....then what makes anyone think they'd pass ANY sort of difficult test? It can certainly give you a boost but when you get to exhaustion, and everyone does, it's mental all the way. I got early bonuses for getting elite scores on my boot camp and BUD/S entry PST. I remember I did like 105 pushups in the boot camp one and 120 in the BUD/S one. But when you are in a 700-800 push up "beating", the physical aspect becomes absolutely irrelevant. There are several aspects like that. |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 4:01:02 PM EDT
[#49]
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most people have no idea what they can do and what they cant do or even what they'd be good at or not good at I can't tell you how many times bright minded people have told me that they started engineering school but "they couldn't handle the math" the truth is that they couldn't handle sitting there working the problems until it clicked, which might take 2 or 3 hours per assignment I can't do it = I don't feel like doing it suppose they locked you in a jail cell with four calculus books and said you can leave when you get an A+ in all four courses most people with an IQ over about 110 could leave jail eventually. might take some of them 5 years but it would happen so who knows? maybe it all comes down to desire if desire > pain, maybe you could do it when most people say 'I can't' it really means 'I won't' |
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Posted: 10/10/2017 4:01:46 PM EDT
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most people have no idea what they can do and what they cant do or even what they'd be good at or not good at I can't tell you how many times bright minded people have told me that they started engineering school but "they couldn't handle the math" the truth is that they couldn't handle sitting there working the problems until it clicked, which might take 2 or 3 hours per assignment I can't do it = I don't feel like doing it suppose they locked you in a jail cell with four calculus books and said you can leave when you get an A+ in all four courses most people with an IQ over about 110 could leave jail eventually. might take some of them 5 years but it would happen so who knows? maybe it all comes down to desire if desire > pain, maybe you could do it So with that said, I have zero desire to be SEAL and so my pain tolerance to become one is also about zero
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