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Posted: 9/15/2022 9:54:03 AM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Auditard in the video already has a lawyer according to the narrator From the lawyer's perspective, it sounds like a good client to keep on speed dial. |
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Posted: 9/15/2022 9:55:08 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the "public easement" the auditor was on? In the video it looks like he's on the grass. If he was in the road I get it, but not the grass. Can people walk through your yard for a certain length if there are not sidewalks? Serious question. |
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Posted: 9/15/2022 10:00:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Roads have public easements that go into the grass usually. Especially if they're are any utility poles and underground utilities located underground along roadway These frauditors typically don’t understand easement law, 1st Amendment law or any law for that matter. The fact that a utility company has an easement doesn’t mean that the frauditor can automatically use that same easement for any purpose that they desire. The same applies for all sorts of easements. The law is far more complex than these frauditors like to play pretend with. |
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Posted: 9/15/2022 10:03:20 AM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: These frauditors typically don’t understand easement law, 1st Amendment law or any law for that matter. The fact that a utility company has an easement doesn’t mean that the frauditor can automatically use that same easement for any purpose that they desire. The same applies for all sorts of easements. The law is far more complex than these frauditors like to play pretend with. Seems like they win far more than they lose when it comes to the vids they publish. Looks like their lawyers know a bit more than the LEO trainers do, big surprise that. |
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Posted: 9/15/2022 12:07:03 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What constitutional right is this asshat “auditor” exercising? And yes, you fell right into the trap. You find some things morally objectionable, just like everyone else. Don’t act like you’re some sort of paragon of liberty because your threshold is different than mine is. Every moment of every day, each one of us is exercising the 4th Amendment. |
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Posted: 9/15/2022 12:13:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So we are going to call them all assholes because of one? Gee, I thought that was frowned upon around here. I guess it depends on who is getting painted. Weird. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A lot of these guys are really bad people. One of the auditors that got popular a while ago was a registered sex offender and I think it was against a child but I’m not sure. So we are going to call them all assholes because of one? Gee, I thought that was frowned upon around here. I guess it depends on who is getting painted. Weird. None of the local self proclaimed auditors are playing with all their marbles. I think they watched quite a few YouTube videos and latched onto the theme. |
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Posted: 9/15/2022 12:15:06 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: These frauditors typically don’t understand easement law, 1st Amendment law or any law for that matter. The fact that a utility company has an easement doesn’t mean that the frauditor can automatically use that same easement for any purpose that they desire. The same applies for all sorts of easements. The law is far more complex than these frauditors like to play pretend with. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Roads have public easements that go into the grass usually. Especially if they're are any utility poles and underground utilities located underground along roadway These frauditors typically don’t understand easement law, 1st Amendment law or any law for that matter. The fact that a utility company has an easement doesn’t mean that the frauditor can automatically use that same easement for any purpose that they desire. The same applies for all sorts of easements. The law is far more complex than these frauditors like to play pretend with. That is true. Easement doesn't always mean public. Its a broad term that needs more specific information. |
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Posted: 9/15/2022 12:15:57 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: These frauditors typically don’t understand easement law, 1st Amendment law or any law for that matter. The fact that a utility company has an easement doesn’t mean that the frauditor can automatically use that same easement for any purpose that they desire. The same applies for all sorts of easements. The law is far more complex than these frauditors like to play pretend with. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Roads have public easements that go into the grass usually. Especially if they're are any utility poles and underground utilities located underground along roadway These frauditors typically don’t understand easement law, 1st Amendment law or any law for that matter. The fact that a utility company has an easement doesn’t mean that the frauditor can automatically use that same easement for any purpose that they desire. The same applies for all sorts of easements. The law is far more complex than these frauditors like to play pretend with. Then trespass the guy and legally arrest him if his on land he's not allowed to be on. Seems like a better plan arresting the guy for protected first amendment activities (disturbing the cop's peace by telling him to fuck off). |
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Posted: 9/15/2022 12:17:34 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What further evidence would you need to justify the deputy's actions as we saw in the video? I've never seen this question answered in any of these threads. I wonder why... |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 12:56:26 AM EDT
[#10]
I’ll never understand the obsession with police by “conservatives”.
The police are not the friends of freedom. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 1:11:54 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Doubt it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Cop in California had the smart idea to play a mainstream song so they couldn't post it on YouTube without being flagged. Smart. One of these days the band will post it to their channel and make fun of him and his kids will get bullied for it. Doubt it. It would be a good way to handle it and fun to watch. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 1:45:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So we are going to call them all assholes because of one? Gee, I thought that was frowned upon around here. I guess it depends on who is getting painted. Weird. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A lot of these guys are really bad people. One of the auditors that got popular a while ago was a registered sex offender and I think it was against a child but I’m not sure. So we are going to call them all assholes because of one? Gee, I thought that was frowned upon around here. I guess it depends on who is getting painted. Weird. Is that what I said? Nope it was pretty clear. Lot of people love to broad brush groups. Cops Auditors Gun Owners Liberals whatever. I've watched hundreds of these videos maybe over a thousand at this point so I feel like I have a decent idea of what's out there. There are a lot them that are really bad at it and the videos are all but unwatchable. Bad cameras, audio, incoherrent dialog, baiting and/or antagonizing, and some break laws like the fool that called 911 and reported himself as suspicious trying to escalate the encounter. I've been watching a lot of Long Island Audit lately and he does a pretty good job of exposing bad acting people and officers while maintaining his calm which just makes the bad ones look worse. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 2:16:10 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that what I said? Nope it was pretty clear. Lot of people love to broad brush groups. Cops Auditors Gun Owners Liberals whatever. I've watched hundreds of these videos maybe over a thousand at this point so I feel like I have a decent idea of what's out there. There are a lot them that are really bad at it and the videos are all but unwatchable. Bad cameras, audio, incoherrent dialog, baiting and/or antagonizing, and some break laws like the fool that called 911 and reported himself as suspicious trying to escalate the encounter. I've been watching a lot of Long Island Audit lately and he does a pretty good job of exposing bad acting people and officers while maintaining his calm which just makes the bad ones look worse. I just watched one of Long Island Audit's videos in another thread recently, and I was rather impressed with how well he conducted himself. Both he and the people he was dealing with were all calm, civil, and polite, even though he wasn't willing to back down from his convictions and entered their "restricted" areas despite their warnings. No one was arrested, no angry words were exchanged, and everyone went home safe in the end. That's a win/win in my book, and I love seeing videos like that. Some of these mouth-breathing retards that consider themselves "Auditors" are the last people I want representing me and the firearms community as a whole, but I still have to applaud their tenacity, even though their level of tact leaves much to be desired. Anything that helps educate the public or members of the law enforcement community about our constitutional rights is a good thing in my book, though there are times where I wish the children would sit down and let the adults speak instead. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 3:03:26 AM EDT
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FCSO Sergeant 'no longer employed' after review of recorded incident
... Deputies said the investigation determined numerous sheriff's office policy violations happened during the incident. Sgt. Morrison is no longer employed by the sheriff's office as a result of the investigation and the incident has been transferred to the 12th Circuit Solicitor's Office, the sheriff's office said. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 3:11:19 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He's a professional, but the other guy shouldn't have put him in a position to violate his rights. Wait.... lol... What in the fuck is this post even saying? HAHAHA. Holy fuck. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 3:15:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shitty cops can get fired. Creepy fucking asshats who insist on trying to act like terrorists while recording folks trying to live their fucking lives can't. In truth the cops should have never even been called here, because it should be perfectly legal for the people working in that building to come out and pummel the fucking jackass within an inch of his for refusing to leave. .. jesus.. christ... recording is terrorism... you are the patriot act incarnate, aren't you. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 8:43:54 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: FCSO Sergeant 'no longer employed' after review of recorded incident ... Deputies said the investigation determined numerous sheriff's office policy violations happened during the incident. Sgt. Morrison is no longer employed by the sheriff's office as a result of the investigation and the incident has been transferred to the 12th Circuit Solicitor's Office, the sheriff's office said. It's amazing what a little publicity can do to help hold people accountable for their actions. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 9:23:10 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: These frauditors typically don’t understand easement law, 1st Amendment law or any law for that matter. The fact that a utility company has an easement doesn’t mean that the frauditor can automatically use that same easement for any purpose that they desire. The same applies for all sorts of easements. The law is far more complex than these frauditors like to play pretend with. Utility easements aren't the same as public easements. I've never seen a road that didn't have a public easement. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 9:55:59 AM EDT
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http://www.fcso.org/press-releases/642-sheriff-joye-responds-to-youtube-incident
Press Releases On Monday, September 12, 2022 we became aware of an incident involving one of our deputies when we received a written complaint from the person arrested and his video was posted on Youtube. We promptly opened an Internal Affairs Investigation which included a review of all known video, including body worn camera video and interviews of the deputies on scene. The Internal Affairs Investigation determined numerous FCSO Policy violations during the incident. As a result of the investigation, Sgt. Morrison is no longer employed by the Florence County Sheriffs Office. The matter has been referred to the 12th Circuit Solicitor's Office. By way of further transparency, we have met with the individual involved and his attorney and all existing video has been made available in its entirety. Our agency has conducted training on the handling of First Amendment rights and that training is ongoing. We will continue to respect the First Amendment rights of the citizens of Florence County and those who travel here. Sheriff TJ Joye |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 10:00:54 AM EDT
[#20]
"transferred to the 12th Circuit Solicitor's Office"
What does that even mean? |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 10:01:36 AM EDT
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He's already got another job, no doubt. Will the solicitor's office do anything? Doubt.
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Posted: 9/16/2022 10:07:50 AM EDT
[#22]
he'll be in another dept soon with higher pay probably
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Posted: 9/16/2022 10:15:04 AM EDT
[#23]
How does a cop in 2022 fall for this shit?
Fired for stupidity. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 10:15:35 AM EDT
[#24]
lol, just setting up bait and he took it.
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Posted: 9/16/2022 10:21:59 AM EDT
[#25]
Some guys are just roid-headed hall monitors.
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Posted: 9/16/2022 10:30:21 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lol, just setting up bait and he took it. I posted this in another thread, officers fill baited after the fact. (He Baited Us ??) IA Files New Smyrna Beach PD.  (He Baited Us ??) IA Files New Smyrna Beach PD. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 10:31:22 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryHe’ll be hired by a neighboring county and continue to be a JBT. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 11:13:06 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "transferred to the 12th Circuit Solicitor's Office" What does that even mean? a) We're punting it to the DA so when nothing happens it isn't our fault. b) We think the deputy committed a serious crime and we want the DA to indict him. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 11:49:01 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: To save everybody some trouble, it's a video by one of those "audits" douchebags. What is the trouble? Douche bag deputy violated the law and his oath fuck him hope he gets sued. If you don't know the laws and how to be professional don't become a cop. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 11:52:30 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How does a cop in 2022 fall for this shit? Fired for stupidity. This one was different. The officer showed up looking for a fight, and went straight into attack mode. Based on a previous comment for one of the business employees to "call their husband", it's possible the officer is married to someone that works at that business, and this attack was extremely personal in nature. I'd really like someone to confirm or deny the officer's possible connection to the business. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 12:10:57 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: a) We're punting it to the DA so when nothing happens it isn't our fault. b) We think the deputy committed a serious crime and we want the DA to indict him. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "transferred to the 12th Circuit Solicitor's Office" What does that even mean? a) We're punting it to the DA so when nothing happens it isn't our fault. b) We think the deputy committed a serious crime and we want the DA to indict him. Yes, in SC, a Solicitor is our version of a district/county/state attorney. They are elected within judicial circuits which cover multiple counties. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 12:30:06 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems to be the case. My kid works at Dove. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I haven’t watched the video, I won’t reward the morons who make it with the click revenue. These same guys showed up in front of my workplace nearby a year or so ago. They were total jerks, asked leading questions and made veiled accusations trying to get a negative reaction for them to post online. Please don’t reward their behavior by helping them get paid for these videos. I know the officer personally, I’ve done gun work for him. He’s a solid dude, a good man and this isn’t the first time he’s had to deal with these scumbags. Naw. Your buddy is a pos. Hope he loses everything. Seems to be the case. My kid works at Dove. @SCPigpen @Red_SC Do either of you know if the officer involved is the husband of one of the employees there? I'm extremely curious about the "call your husband" comment mentioned earlier, and you two seem to be the best chance of getting a straight answer directly from the source. Thanks in advance! |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 12:45:27 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: To save everybody some trouble, it's a video by one of those "audits" douchebags. Oh look, it’s officer friendly.  I am thankful for “auditors”. They are out doing the Lords work getting shitty cops fired and exposing the corruption in law enforcement. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 12:52:30 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Shitty cops can get fired. Creepy fucking asshats who insist on trying to act like terrorists while recording folks trying to live their fucking lives can't.] In truth the cops should have never even been called here, because it should be perfectly legal for the people working in that building to come out and pummel the fucking jackass within an inch of his for refusing to leave. Pummel a person on a public right of way doing nothing illegal? You’re okay with that?
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Posted: 9/16/2022 1:11:21 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, in SC, a Solicitor is our version of a district/county/state attorney. They are elected within judicial circuits which cover multiple counties. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: "transferred to the 12th Circuit Solicitor's Office" What does that even mean? a) We're punting it to the DA so when nothing happens it isn't our fault. b) We think the deputy committed a serious crime and we want the DA to indict him. Yes, in SC, a Solicitor is our version of a district/county/state attorney. They are elected within judicial circuits which cover multiple counties. Thanks for the clarification, I was thinking DA. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 1:12:35 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pummel a person on a public right of way doing nothing illegal? You’re okay with that? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Shitty cops can get fired. Creepy fucking asshats who insist on trying to act like terrorists while recording folks trying to live their fucking lives can't.] In truth the cops should have never even been called here, because it should be perfectly legal for the people working in that building to come out and pummel the fucking jackass within an inch of his for refusing to leave. Pummel a person on a public right of way doing nothing illegal? You’re okay with that? That's pretty typical for GD, really. I've seen people here openly advocate for physical assault and arson because they didn't like the color someone painted their house. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 1:20:06 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am thankful for “auditors”. They are out doing the Lords work getting shitty cops fired and exposing the corruption in law enforcement. Yep, more and more people are waking up to the absolute shitshow that is American policing because of 1A auditors. And I can say that in praise of them, and yet also say that they're running a hustle, and 1A activism is just a means to an end. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 1:27:28 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Roads have public easements that go into the grass usually. Especially if they're are any utility poles and underground utilities located underground along roadway In Virginia, the Commonwealth owns the road, plus 21' of either side of the centerline, for one lane (each way) roads. As for the STB-felon of an ex-deputy is it "he's gone" as in fired or is it "he's gone" because he did the honorable thing and suck started his shotgun. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 1:41:19 PM EDT
[#39]
Deputy thought the guy was such a threat that he kept both hands in his pocket until he went to the sucker punch arrest?
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Posted: 9/16/2022 1:42:10 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @SCPigpen @Red_SC Do either of you know if the officer involved is the husband of one of the employees there? I'm extremely curious about the "call your husband" comment mentioned earlier, and you two seem to be the best chance of getting a straight answer directly from the source. Thanks in advance! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I haven’t watched the video, I won’t reward the morons who make it with the click revenue. These same guys showed up in front of my workplace nearby a year or so ago. They were total jerks, asked leading questions and made veiled accusations trying to get a negative reaction for them to post online. Please don’t reward their behavior by helping them get paid for these videos. I know the officer personally, I’ve done gun work for him. He’s a solid dude, a good man and this isn’t the first time he’s had to deal with these scumbags. Naw. Your buddy is a pos. Hope he loses everything. Seems to be the case. My kid works at Dove. @SCPigpen @Red_SC Do either of you know if the officer involved is the husband of one of the employees there? I'm extremely curious about the "call your husband" comment mentioned earlier, and you two seem to be the best chance of getting a straight answer directly from the source. Thanks in advance! @ConcernedCitizen I'll check with my kid |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 1:58:20 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pummel a person on a public right of way doing nothing illegal? You’re okay with that? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Shitty cops can get fired. Creepy fucking asshats who insist on trying to act like terrorists while recording folks trying to live their fucking lives can't.] In truth the cops should have never even been called here, because it should be perfectly legal for the people working in that building to come out and pummel the fucking jackass within an inch of his for refusing to leave. Pummel a person on a public right of way doing nothing illegal? You’re okay with that? Some LEOs will never ever admit another LEO messed up. Then we have LEOs like BamaShooter who post about LEOs messing up and he generally calls it straight on the particular situation and not broadbrush the Blue Line. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 2:04:44 PM EDT
[#42]
@ConcernedCitizen
My kid is not sure. She said there is a husband and wife that work at dove so that may be where the calling husband comment came from. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 2:32:03 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @ConcernedCitizen My kid is not sure. She said there is a husband and wife that work at dove so that may be where the calling husband comment came from. @SCPigpen Thank you, I appreciate you taking the time to ask. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 2:39:33 PM EDT
[#44]
Update - Florance County Deputy Is No Longer With The Department
 Update - Florence County Deputy Is No Longer With The Department |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 2:47:10 PM EDT
[#45]
Is he working for another department yet?
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Posted: 9/16/2022 2:48:23 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: FCSO Sergeant 'no longer employed' after review of recorded incident ... Deputies said the investigation determined numerous sheriff's office policy violations happened during the incident. Sgt. Morrison is no longer employed by the sheriff's office as a result of the investigation and the incident has been transferred to the 12th Circuit Solicitor's Office, the sheriff's office said. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 2:51:37 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pummel a person on a public right of way doing nothing illegal? You’re okay with that? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Shitty cops can get fired. Creepy fucking asshats who insist on trying to act like terrorists while recording folks trying to live their fucking lives can't.] In truth the cops should have never even been called here, because it should be perfectly legal for the people working in that building to come out and pummel the fucking jackass within an inch of his for refusing to leave. Pummel a person on a public right of way doing nothing illegal? You’re okay with that? Never seen a thread where someone is filming kids at a park or beach and posters type out their reactions? |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 3:03:56 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: These frauditors typically don’t understand easement law, 1st Amendment law or any law for that matter. The fact that a utility company has an easement doesn’t mean that the frauditor can automatically use that same easement for any purpose that they desire. The same applies for all sorts of easements. The law is far more complex than these frauditors like to play pretend with. Why are you even posting? To show how little you know? South Carolina usually has 66' right of way for state roads. Can be as little as 16' from centerline of. 2 lane road. The guy was in the right of way. Fucking grass has nothing to do with it. Jesus.."he was in the grass"..LOL.. |
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Posted: 9/16/2022 3:09:03 PM EDT
[#49]
Holy fuck is that guy annoying
 I guess if your business is getting beat up he's good at it
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Posted: 9/16/2022 9:04:07 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @SCPigpen @Red_SC Do either of you know if the officer involved is the husband of one of the employees there? I'm extremely curious about the "call your husband" comment mentioned earlier, and you two seem to be the best chance of getting a straight answer directly from the source. Thanks in advance! @ConcernedCitizen No, that wasn’t a reference to him. |
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