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Posted: 4/20/2023 1:18:58 PM EDT
[#1]
I CC a P365 X macro. Not worried at all.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 1:26:56 PM EDT
[#2]
My only Sig with a safety is a 230, and sure.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 1:31:11 PM EDT
[#3]
Sig guys: Your funeral, gonna get Glock leg.
Glock guys: Your funeral, they shoot themselves. HK guys: Your funera… Is that a scratch in my Tesla! This is all pants on head retarded. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 1:34:11 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Sig guys: Your funeral, gonna get Glock leg. Glock guys: Your funeral, they shoot themselves. HK guys: Your funera… Is that a scratch in my Tesla! This is all pants on head retarded. 
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Posted: 4/20/2023 2:44:28 PM EDT
[#5]
Fuck Bud! You’re going to have holes in both legs, and a fucked up Tesla!
Really though, I would have full confidence in any of the 3 and would carry either/or once I vetted it. I own several Sigs and Glocks. I had an HK once but the trigger had a distaste for me. Come to think of it, over 25 years of shooting pistols and I’ve never gotten a lemon. Not even a 1911. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 2:47:29 PM EDT
[#6]
My 320 went back for the "upgrade" or whatever they called it. I have no problems carrying it.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 2:49:59 PM EDT
[#7]
I was considering buying one until all the hullabaloo about them. I ended up with a Beretta 92x instead.
I'd reconsider if/when they put the specter of NDs completely behind them. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 2:50:16 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: P365 yea, P320 ehhhhhh Yep, I have a P365 not a P320. Why did you include the P365 OP? |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 2:56:44 PM EDT
[#9]
What's up with the 365?
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Posted: 4/20/2023 2:59:04 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What's up with the 365? Nothing |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 3:02:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's up with the 365? *Allegedly* reported issues with trigger return spring, ejector, extractor and internal safety. *Allegedly* You know how forums are. Mine has been 100%. I don’t have a P320 and won’t buy one. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 3:12:50 PM EDT
[#12]
I have a dozen sigs. The one I carry every day is a P938. No issues with it at all.
If I needed I would carry the P365 with no problem. I have carried one of my P226s before with no issues. I have a P320 and several P250s but have never carried them. I could see carrying the smaller P250 in .45ACP. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 3:35:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/20/2023 3:39:24 PM EDT
[#14]
Don’t currently have one and have zero plans to ever get one.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 3:49:11 PM EDT
[#15]
Yes for both my 226 and M18. I don't carry either, nor drop them so milage may vary as they only come out a few times a year
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Posted: 4/20/2023 3:54:45 PM EDT
[#16]
I never even bought a holster for my 320 and finally just sold it.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 4:07:25 PM EDT
[#17]
Are there any lawsuits or credible reports of "uncommanded discharge" with the p365? I think the (bs) reports were only for the p320.
The p320 cases piss me off. I am 90% sure the lawsuits are all BS, but I went big in p320 and have a couple of fcu plus a bunch of caliber conversation kits, different grip modules, threaded barrels, and a zillion or two magazines. Basically all the Lego. When my state implemented a mag ban I was faced with that 10% possibility by main pistol platform might be rendered undesirable so I was forced to go buy a bunch of other guns and magazine. I really would rather just have the p320 and sell the rest but waiting for this to work itself out. I have a couple of p365 as well including 380 add 9mm slides, threaded barrels, different length slides and different grips. I played with a lot of Lego as a kid. I like Lego. 
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Posted: 4/20/2023 4:33:58 PM EDT
[#18]
Yes
I also make a habit of paying attention to where my fingers are and if there is anything that can snag a light trigger to set it off If mine does go off in the holster Ill most likely assume I fucked up and caused it so YMMV |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 4:35:35 PM EDT
[#19]
My 228, 226s, 230 and 225, yes...
My 320??? Welll.... I did send it back.. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 4:37:39 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was considering buying one until all the hullabaloo about them. I ended up with a Beretta 92x instead. I'd reconsider if/when they put the specter of NDs completely behind them. Well Negligent discharges are caused by a user so... |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 4:40:35 PM EDT
[#21]
Yes, but I don’t have any of their p320/365 guns so it’s a different story lol
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Posted: 4/20/2023 4:41:32 PM EDT
[#22]
Don't own a 320 but I feel safe with my 365 and 365XL, although the grip texture likes to collect skin samples!
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Posted: 4/20/2023 4:46:04 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't own a 320 but I feel safe with my 365 and 365XL, although the grip texture likes to collect skin samples! I sanded down the stipling on the grip module where it was rubbing the skin off my back. I have it at 5'oclock. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 4:52:06 PM EDT
[#24]
yeah, more than any other guns I have ever owned.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 5:14:52 PM EDT
[#25]
The Milwaukee police don’t trust theirs. Milwaukee police said they were so afraid of their department-issued handguns randomly firing, they wouldn't bring them home near their family
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Posted: 4/20/2023 5:22:13 PM EDT
[#26]
I trust my folded slide P226.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 5:44:23 PM EDT
[#27]
I have two 320's, yes I would trust them to carry and have carried them in the past IWB.
I didn't care for the 365, went with a used Hellcat. I would prefer the 320's had a trigger "safety", but it hasn't stopped me from carrying them. I don't think there is a problem with the design. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 7:08:17 PM EDT
[#28]
Pole fails, no option to split the vote.
Have carried 365 for several years now and almost a thousand rounds downrange, I am not worried about anything. The 320 however was a turd in my hands, the trigger sucked. I'll hang on to my hammer fired SIG for full size pistols. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:15:00 PM EDT
[#29]
Almost 26% say no. Interesting.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:16:35 PM EDT
[#30]
My P365’s have Manual Safety levers.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:46:06 PM EDT
[#31]
The first gen 320's were not drop safe, but that's been fixed.
I'm still waiting for someone to take one of the "self firing 320's", disassemble it, and show us which part broke or jiggled or got bypassed to allow it to fire in the holster or otherwise uncommanded. I'd think that with as many incidents as there have been, someone would have been able to repeat this and demonstrate the failure, even if only on the actual pistol that fired while holstered. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 9:55:07 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Milwaukee police don’t trust theirs. Milwaukee police said they were so afraid of their department-issued handguns randomly firing, they wouldn't bring them home near their family And I don’t trust Milwaukee PD to handle firearms safely in the first place, so I guess the score is even. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:01:21 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The first gen 320's were not drop safe, but that's been fixed. False. Because there was no mandatory consumer protection recall there are unknown thousands of Sig 320s out there that are not drop safe. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:05:23 PM EDT
[#34]
Yes.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:08:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:16:12 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: P365 yea, P320 ehhhhhh Kinda where I am at. I carry a 365 EDC. Occasionally I carry a 320 in a backpack to certain events and places. I have complete confidence in the 365 |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:26:45 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: False. Because there was no mandatory consumer protection recall there are unknown thousands of Sig 320s out there that are not drop safe. It's true for all practical purposes as far as the 320 platform is concerned. The design was fixed, all new pistols are drop safe, and the free fix was made available to everyone. At this point, anyone who hasn't their first gen 320 fixed is doing so willfully or deliberately, and assuming that liability themselves. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:28:28 PM EDT
[#38]
I prefer my Steyr S9 over an Uhmerican knockoff.
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:29:16 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's true for all practical purposes as far as the 320 platform is concerned. The design was fixed, all new pistols are drop safe, and the free fix was made available to everyone. At this point, anyone who hasn't their first gen 320 fixed is doing so willfully or deliberately, and assuming that liability themselves. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: False. Because there was no mandatory consumer protection recall there are unknown thousands of Sig 320s out there that are not drop safe. It's true for all practical purposes as far as the 320 platform is concerned. The design was fixed, all new pistols are drop safe, and the free fix was made available to everyone. At this point, anyone who hasn't their first gen 320 fixed is doing so willfully or deliberately, and assuming that liability themselves. Or a used gun buyer who doesn’t hang out on gun forums |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:55:45 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Or a used gun buyer who doesn’t hang out on gun forums I think you're using a needlessly pedantic definition of "fixed" to describe the 320 platform solely for the purpose of shitting on it, but you do you. Yeah, there will always be a first gen 320 somewhere out there that's not drop safe, but the drop safe issue has been corrected per my definition of "fixed". New production and availability of a free fix meets my definition, but we'll probably never be in agreement on that, vs what sounds like your definition of 100% of first gens being corrected. To draw an analogy, I think this is like arguing the AR15/M16 platform is terribly unreliable because it doesn't have a chrome lined barrel/chamber, wasn't issued with a cleaning kit, and the ammo was loaded with the wrong powder. Yeah, there's still an original M16 in the jungle somewhere, but I think those problems have been fixed. The bigger concern for me is the uncommanded firing, and why no one's been able to demo it or show what's happening. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:56:20 PM EDT
[#41]
Not my 320
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Posted: 4/20/2023 10:57:38 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: False. Because there was no mandatory consumer protection recall there are unknown thousands of Sig 320s out there that are not drop safe. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The first gen 320's were not drop safe, but that's been fixed. False. Because there was no mandatory consumer protection recall there are unknown thousands of Sig 320s out there that are not drop safe. Just think of how many Glock grenades (Gen3 G22s) are in circulation. Waaaay more than P320s that weren't updated. |
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Posted: 4/20/2023 11:20:44 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think you're using a needlessly pedantic definition of "fixed" to describe the 320 platform solely for the purpose of shitting on it, but you do you. Yeah, there will always be a first gen 320 somewhere out there that's not drop safe, but the drop safe issue has been corrected per my definition of "fixed". New production and availability of a free fix meets my definition, but we'll probably never be in agreement on that, vs what sounds like your definition of 100% of first gens being corrected. To draw an analogy, I think this is like arguing the AR15/M16 platform is terribly unreliable because it doesn't have a chrome lined barrel/chamber, wasn't issued with a cleaning kit, and the ammo was loaded with the wrong powder. Yeah, there's still an original M16 in the jungle somewhere, but I think those problems have been fixed. The bigger concern for me is the uncommanded firing, and why no one's been able to demo it or show what's happening. I have been unable to replicate this with a XCompact. The first few threads on the subject (year or 2 ago) gave me pause for alarm so I abused it in the holster in all manner of ways with a snap cap. Nothing. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 12:34:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have been unable to replicate this with a XCompact. The first few threads on the subject (year or 2 ago) gave me pause for alarm so I abused it in the holster in all manner of ways with a snap cap. Nothing. I worked mine over with a mallet and couldn't get it to do anything either. I want to give these people the benefit of the doubt, but since no one has come forward with a pistol with a broken part or something out of spec that fires when they do xyz, I'm really leaning towards this just being a bad holster/snagged trigger issue. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 12:36:36 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well Negligent discharges are caused by a user so... Well aren't you the clever boy |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 12:44:03 AM EDT
[#46]
I own 2 sig pistols. neither have a safety.
ETA RIF, yes I trust my p365. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 12:52:10 AM EDT
[#47]
I trust them, but I do treat them as I would a 1911 with no grip safety and and no manual safety. Basically, treat a form-fitting holster as a manual safety. I visually check/verify clear holsters with no clothing or other obstructions. I remove iwb holsters for reholstering.
Edit: I treat my Glocks and Apex triggered M&P the same way Option 2 is Israeli- carry for the squeamish. That said, I personally prefer a dasa semi-auto for concealed carry. Then, I even feel comfortable with mexi-carry. |
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Posted: 4/21/2023 12:52:35 AM EDT
[#48]
My only Sig is a metal pistol with decocker, made in Germany. I do trust it- 100 percent as my #1 carry.
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Posted: 4/21/2023 1:10:31 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2023 1:22:45 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryYou could draw those lines on any pistol. I've never held a 320. |
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