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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:09:21 PM EST
[#1]
Now there’s a movie I want to see. That looks cool.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:17:14 PM EST
[#2]
It looks like it COULD* be a good movie but for me there are two things that hold it back.
1.Hollywood has been $hit for the past what.. 15-20 years? so that play against it, and then not so big of a deal but... 2. The main character, like the new batman is BETA soy as HELL, he has the body of a 14 year old small boy, they are trying to idolize beta boys in our culture now, the Previous Dune's havent had a character this... manlet-like. Its not THAT big of a deal to me just kind of annoying, he does look somewhat like the previous Dune actor in the face a little, but that's it. I hope it will be good, but with TV series blowing away Hollywood movies for the past 20 years or so, they have to overcome a lot. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:22:18 PM EST
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Ok, probably read the books about 35 years ago, then read them again at some point, plus 2 movie adaptations... To me, I always pictured him as an athletic full grown young man in his early 20's. With thousands of years of selective breeding, I had no reason to picture them much different than Olympian Gods. Add too that he had been trained physically and mentally all of his life.
That actor might be 25, but he looks 16 to me, still waiting to hit his growth spurt. Of course that might be the ticket - estrogen therapy to make him see all man/woman sides. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:23:34 PM EST
[#4]
Paul Atriedes is supposed to look 15. Because that's how old he starts in the books.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:23:56 PM EST
[#5]
Dupe
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:24:00 PM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It looks like it COULD* be a good movie but for me there are two things that hold it back. 1.Hollywood has been $hit for the past what.. 15-20 years? so that play against it, and then not so big of a deal but... 2. The main character, like the new batman is BETA soy as HELL, he has the body of a 14 year old small boy, they are trying to idolize beta boys in our culture now, the Previous Dune's havent had a character this... manlet-like. Its not THAT big of a deal to me just kind of annoying, he does look somewhat like the previous Dune actor in the face a little, but that's it. I hope it will be good, but with TV series blowing away Hollywood movies for the past 20 years or so, they have to overcome a lot. Quote HistoryQuoted: It looks like it COULD* be a good movie but for me there are two things that hold it back. 1.Hollywood has been $hit for the past what.. 15-20 years? so that play against it, and then not so big of a deal but... 2. The main character, like the new batman is BETA soy as HELL, he has the body of a 14 year old small boy, they are trying to idolize beta boys in our culture now, the Previous Dune's havent had a character this... manlet-like. Its not THAT big of a deal to me just kind of annoying, he does look somewhat like the previous Dune actor in the face a little, but that's it. I hope it will be good, but with TV series blowing away Hollywood movies for the past 20 years or so, they have to overcome a lot.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Atreides The son of Duke Leto Atreides and the Lady Jessica, Paul is the heir of House Atreides, an aristocratic family that rules the planet Caladan. Jessica is a Bene Gesserit and an important key in the Bene Gesserit breeding program. According to the breeding program, she was to produce a daughter, who would be bred with Feyd-Rautha, a nephew of Baron Vladimir Harkonnen. However, Jessica falls in love with Leto and grants him the son he desires. Although Paul is a boy, Jessica gives him some training in the Bene Gesserit ways, including enhanced observation and the Sisterhood's specialized martial art. Initially described as "small for his age", Paul has secretly undergone the early Mentat training, and is also schooled in weapon use by Gurney Halleck and Duncan Idaho. In Dune (1965), Paul is fifteen years old; the Padishah Emperor Shaddam IV orders the family to leave Caladan and govern the desert planet Arrakis (known as Dune) |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:25:22 PM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It looks like it COULD* be a good movie but for me there are two things that hold it back. 1.Hollywood has been $hit for the past what.. 15-20 years? so that play against it, and then not so big of a deal but... 2. The main character, like the new batman is BETA soy as HELL, he has the body of a 14 year old small boy, they are trying to idolize beta boys in our culture now, the Previous Dune's havent had a character this... manlet-like. Its not THAT big of a deal to me just kind of annoying, he does look somewhat like the previous Dune actor in the face a little, but that's it. I hope it will be good, but with TV series blowing away Hollywood movies for the past 20 years or so, they have to overcome a lot. Paul was like 15 in the first book and small for his size. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:29:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Arguable, in the case of the Crusades for the Holy Land (the Muslims had been in possession of the Holy Land for a loooong time before the Emperor tried to get mercs from Pope Urban....which is what precipitated the First Crusade). The Northern Crusades (where the Teutonic Knights murdered the shit out of any pagans they saw) were expressly offensive campaigns, meant to colonize and convert the Baltic regions. The Reconquista was, again, only arguably "defensive", since it began long after the Muslim conquest of most of Iberia. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: One was defensive in nature, the other a conquest. Arguable, in the case of the Crusades for the Holy Land (the Muslims had been in possession of the Holy Land for a loooong time before the Emperor tried to get mercs from Pope Urban....which is what precipitated the First Crusade). The Northern Crusades (where the Teutonic Knights murdered the shit out of any pagans they saw) were expressly offensive campaigns, meant to colonize and convert the Baltic regions. The Reconquista was, again, only arguably "defensive", since it began long after the Muslim conquest of most of Iberia. Defensible actions. The Muslims had been conquering and enslaving Christian lands for a long time before the Christians decided to go on the offensive. It was a one-sided show of Muslim imperialism, piracy and rapey conquest before the pope decided to give his blessing with the 1089 papal bull to fight them and take back conquered lands. The Reconquista was a long haul of nativist resistance before they finally got support from the Church, and then it was a matter of gradual reclamation of territory over a long period of time before they took everything back. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:29:37 PM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy shit that looks bad |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:31:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Butlerian Jihad was in the past. If he is talking about a future event, either word might be appropriate.  |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:32:19 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It looks like it COULD* be a good movie but for me there are two things that hold it back. 1.Hollywood has been $hit for the past what.. 15-20 years? so that play against it, and then not so big of a deal but... 2. The main character, like the new batman is BETA soy as HELL, he has the body of a 14 year old small boy, they are trying to idolize beta boys in our culture now, the Previous Dune's havent had a character this... manlet-like. Its not THAT big of a deal to me just kind of annoying, he does look somewhat like the previous Dune actor in the face a little, but that's it. I hope it will be good, but with TV series blowing away Hollywood movies for the past 20 years or so, they have to overcome a lot. As I thought I remembered, Paul is SUPPOSED to be small. And if you think hollywood hasn't put anything good out in 20 years you're not paying attention. Yes, there's a lot of shit but there's also a lot of absolutely amazing movies that have been released. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:33:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why does Hollywood insist on sticking to a now very tired and worn out formula for trailers? Deep BOOM sounds to create a sense of dread, with an older pop/rock song, redone in a super slowed down dramatic fashion? I love Dune 1984 (we are watching it now with our 14 year old), so I'm not so sure about this one yet. So much CGI, the worms look fake as crap. Maybe it's just the way the trailer is done. I loved Bladerunner 2049 so I have hope.  How To Make A Blockbuster Movie Trailer |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:44:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Paul was like 15 in the first book and small for his size. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It looks like it COULD* be a good movie but for me there are two things that hold it back. 1.Hollywood has been $hit for the past what.. 15-20 years? so that play against it, and then not so big of a deal but... 2. The main character, like the new batman is BETA soy as HELL, he has the body of a 14 year old small boy, they are trying to idolize beta boys in our culture now, the Previous Dune's havent had a character this... manlet-like. Its not THAT big of a deal to me just kind of annoying, he does look somewhat like the previous Dune actor in the face a little, but that's it. I hope it will be good, but with TV series blowing away Hollywood movies for the past 20 years or so, they have to overcome a lot. Paul was like 15 in the first book and small for his size. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:45:19 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryWhich one is Paul? |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:45:43 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: . The main character, like the new batman is BETA soy as HELL, he has the body of a 14 year old small boy, they are trying to idolize beta boys in our culture now, the Previous Dune's havent had a character this... manlet-like. Its not THAT big of a deal to me just kind of annoying, he does look somewhat like the previous Dune actor in the face a little, but that's it. Paul Atreides was young, only about 15yo at the beginning of the book, and was noted in the very beginning to be small for his age. ETA beaten like Gurney Halleck in the Harkonnens' slave pits. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:50:36 PM EST
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As I thought I remembered, Paul is SUPPOSED to be small. And if you think hollywood hasn't put anything good out in 20 years you're not paying attention. Yes, there's a lot of shit but there's also a lot of absolutely amazing movies that have been released. The director of this movie (Denis Villenueve) so far has the Midas touch. BR2049, Arrival, Sicario and Prisoners are pretty much all fucking masterpieces.... Plus we have Hans Zimmer scoring it. This is a big reason why I'm looking foward to this. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:53:31 PM EST
[#17]
In the book, Paul is fifteen years old, and is described as small for his age
Some of you complaining that he looks small or like a “soy boy” should trying reading the book again, rather than criticizing the director, who apparently DID read the book. ETA: beaten like a soy boy. 
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:54:49 PM EST
[#18]
I guess it'd be weird for Henry Cavill or the like to play the dude named after a small desert mouse.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:54:54 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It is not that the Bene Gesserit are like the Jedi but vice versa. George Lucas based much of the original trilogy and some of the 2nd trilogy off Dune. Much of the Jedi was based off the Bene Gesserit. He even jacked names Princess Alia became princess Leah. From sand worms, trade federations, space Messiahs determined by a mystical force to much more, SW's success has its origins from the mind of Frank Herbert. I didn't get that much of a stolen vide until I got to the Honored Matres. Then it kinda felt jedi-ish all of a sudden. But yeah, the theft is pretty glaring in places. The weirding way is nearly force powers. Best quote of the whole series goes to Darwi Odrade "“All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible.” |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 3:57:48 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Defensible actions. The Muslims had been conquering and enslaving Christian lands for a long time before the Christians decided to go on the offensive. It was a one-sided show of Muslim imperialism, piracy and rapey conquest before the pope decided to give his blessing with the 1089 papal bull to fight them and take back conquered lands. The Reconquista was a long haul of nativist resistance before they finally got support from the Church, and then it was a matter of gradual reclamation of territory over a long period of time before they took everything back. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: One was defensive in nature, the other a conquest. Arguable, in the case of the Crusades for the Holy Land (the Muslims had been in possession of the Holy Land for a loooong time before the Emperor tried to get mercs from Pope Urban....which is what precipitated the First Crusade). The Northern Crusades (where the Teutonic Knights murdered the shit out of any pagans they saw) were expressly offensive campaigns, meant to colonize and convert the Baltic regions. The Reconquista was, again, only arguably "defensive", since it began long after the Muslim conquest of most of Iberia. Defensible actions. The Muslims had been conquering and enslaving Christian lands for a long time before the Christians decided to go on the offensive. It was a one-sided show of Muslim imperialism, piracy and rapey conquest before the pope decided to give his blessing with the 1089 papal bull to fight them and take back conquered lands. The Reconquista was a long haul of nativist resistance before they finally got support from the Church, and then it was a matter of gradual reclamation of territory over a long period of time before they took everything back. No one is disputing if the crusades are defensible actions. It was a holy war after all. The Battle of Tours in 732, defensive. Waiting 450 years is not a defensive war. And it is a rather odd note of history that the Christians and Jews weren't expelled from Jerusalem until 1099, as the First Crusade was marching on the city. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 4:02:09 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The director of this movie (Denis Villenueve) so far has the Midas touch. BR2049, Arrival, Sicario and Prisoners are pretty much all fucking masterpieces.... Plus we have Hans Zimmer scoring it. This is a big reason why I'm looking foward to this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As I thought I remembered, Paul is SUPPOSED to be small. And if you think hollywood hasn't put anything good out in 20 years you're not paying attention. Yes, there's a lot of shit but there's also a lot of absolutely amazing movies that have been released. The director of this movie (Denis Villenueve) so far has the Midas touch. BR2049, Arrival, Sicario and Prisoners are pretty much all fucking masterpieces.... Plus we have Hans Zimmer scoring it. This is a big reason why I'm looking foward to this. I haven't seen all of those, but I have seen BR and Arrival and loved both of them. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 4:03:23 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven't seen all of those, but I have seen BR and Arrival and loved both of them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: As I thought I remembered, Paul is SUPPOSED to be small. And if you think hollywood hasn't put anything good out in 20 years you're not paying attention. Yes, there's a lot of shit but there's also a lot of absolutely amazing movies that have been released. The director of this movie (Denis Villenueve) so far has the Midas touch. BR2049, Arrival, Sicario and Prisoners are pretty much all fucking masterpieces.... Plus we have Hans Zimmer scoring it. This is a big reason why I'm looking foward to this. I haven't seen all of those, but I have seen BR and Arrival and loved both of them. Sicario was amazing, by far my favorite movie. It's more of a mystery movie than an action movie. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 4:03:41 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't get that much of a stolen vide until I got to the Honored Matres. Then it kinda felt jedi-ish all of a sudden. But yeah, the theft is pretty glaring in places. The weirding way is nearly force powers. Best quote of the whole series goes to Darwi Odrade "“All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible.” Star Wars is Dune with a two-digit IQ. Honestly, George Lucas got lucky with Star Wars. If his wife wasn't there to edit his original dogshit cut into something watchable, and he didn't have someone else make a good sequel, nobody would have remembered it. All the other Star Wars movies since have ranged from meh to total garbage. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 4:09:32 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sicario was amazing, by far my favorite movie. It's more of a mystery movie than an action movie. You should watch Prisoners too, it's fucking amazing. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 4:12:59 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sicario was amazing, by far my favorite movie. It's more of a mystery movie than an action movie. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: As I thought I remembered, Paul is SUPPOSED to be small. And if you think hollywood hasn't put anything good out in 20 years you're not paying attention. Yes, there's a lot of shit but there's also a lot of absolutely amazing movies that have been released. The director of this movie (Denis Villenueve) so far has the Midas touch. BR2049, Arrival, Sicario and Prisoners are pretty much all fucking masterpieces.... Plus we have Hans Zimmer scoring it. This is a big reason why I'm looking foward to this. I haven't seen all of those, but I have seen BR and Arrival and loved both of them. Sicario was amazing, by far my favorite movie. It's more of a mystery movie than an action movie. It's one of those I've meant to watch forever and just haven't got around to it. As far as other great movies over the last 20 years...it's just absurd to claim Hollywood only puts out trash. Gladiator. Interstellar. BoB and Chernobyl if we can count miniseries. Pan's Labyrinth. What We Do in the Shadows. The Death of Stalin. The Endless. Mad Max if you're into that kind of thing...certain Marvel movies even (Guardians???) Lord of the Rings. Some kids movies have turned out great- Finding Nemo and the Incredibles for example. Even fun stuff like John Wick. I could go on and on. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 5:42:24 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I must not hype. Hype is the joy-killer. Hype is the over-excitement that brings total disappointment. I will face my hype. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when hype has gone past I will turn my outer eye to the screen to see the actual product. Where the hype has gone there will be critique. Only it will remain. Post of the year! I’m starting to have hope for 2020! |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 5:46:16 PM EST
[#27]
Sweet!
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Posted: 9/9/2020 5:50:26 PM EST
[#28]
Looks great.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 6:00:51 PM EST
[#29]
I will watch it in a theatre
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Posted: 9/9/2020 6:03:22 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Crusade" instead of "Jihad?"  I'd rather be a Crusader than a Jihadi even if I was a Freman Budhislamist. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 6:05:01 PM EST
[#31]
Brolin better not screw up the role of Gurney Halleck.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 6:06:29 PM EST
[#32]
"A rain of blue uniforms came over the cliff wall in front of him, falling in low-suspensor slowness. In the flashing instant, Hawat had time to see that they were Sardaukar, hard faces set in battle frenzy, that they were unshielded and each carried a knife in one hand, a stunner in the other. A thrown knife caught Hawat's Fremen companion in the throat..."
The Sardaukar versus Fremen... |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 6:08:46 PM EST
[#33]
Looks like they remade Dune 1984 which sucked.
The Mini-series was better. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 6:27:27 PM EST
[#34]
Looks a lot like the last 3 Harry Potter movies to me. I love Dune so I will be watching for sure.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 6:32:49 PM EST
[#35]
Looks like everybody wanted to be in this one...dam....several A listers in the trailer.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 6:41:04 PM EST
[#36]
Jason Momoa as Duncan Idaho and Josh Brolin as Gurney Halleck are good choices.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 7:03:59 PM EST
[#37]
Baron Harkonnen is played by Stellan Skarsgard. The actor who plays Feyd is also named Skarsgard. Maybe a son or nephew. Makes sense, Feyd and Beast Rabban were nephews of the Baron.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 7:08:00 PM EST
[#38]
The worms look closer to the depiction in the Dune Encyclopedia than the miniseries or 1984 film.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 7:09:06 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dune really calls for a longer treatment than a 2 hour movie, but we'll see. I honestly think they could split it into a 3 part trilogy: Part 1 - intro to Dune, and everything that happens up to the Harkonnen attack Part 2 - escape, hiding, etc. Part 3 - Paul turns into a man and comes back to defeat the Emperor There's absolutely no reason to deal with any of the later books. To be honest, they're just not that good. (And I say that as somebody who re-reads them every 5-10 years, with the mistaken hope that I'll be pleasantly surprised). God Emperor isn't too bad, but the rest are tedious reads, with a few tidbits here and there. By the time Chapterhouse comes along, it's just hundreds of pages of scheming nuns. That sounds a lot like a certain other 3 part space opera that ripped off Dune
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Posted: 9/9/2020 7:11:01 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It looks like it COULD* be a good movie but for me there are two things that hold it back. 1.Hollywood has been $hit for the past what.. 15-20 years? so that play against it, and then not so big of a deal but... 2. The main character, like the new batman is BETA soy as HELL, he has the body of a 14 year old small boy, they are trying to idolize beta boys in our culture now, the Previous Dune's havent had a character this... manlet-like. Its not THAT big of a deal to me just kind of annoying, he does look somewhat like the previous Dune actor in the face a little, but that's it. I hope it will be good, but with TV series blowing away Hollywood movies for the past 20 years or so, they have to overcome a lot. For #2, Paul is 15 at the beginning of the book and is described as being small for his age. He's not a big dude by any stretch. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 7:16:00 PM EST
[#41]
i came up with this years ago
It is by coffee alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by coffee alone I set my mind in motion. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 7:20:25 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: i came up with this years ago It is by coffee alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by coffee alone I set my mind in motion. Words to live by for sure. This one has a great cast and Villeneuve is an amazing director. Should be an awesome flick. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 7:26:22 PM EST
[#43]
the whole time i was like. Dune, isn't that the dumb movie with the giant sand worms.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 7:30:09 PM EST
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Posted: 9/9/2020 7:30:12 PM EST
[#45]
I can't wait for this shit.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 7:44:14 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, that looks amazing. It won't take much to improve on a David Lynch film so my bar is pretty low, but the casting, tone and visuals seem on point. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 7:57:33 PM EST
[#47]
Been waiting for this for a long time.
Friday is time to show the family the older version |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 8:09:11 PM EST
[#48]
That looks good.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 8:10:14 PM EST
[#49]
Look pretty good.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 8:14:26 PM EST
[#50]
Oh look a new version of the hot salty garbage that is Dune.
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