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Posted: 9/9/2020 8:15:53 PM EST
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy shit that looks good. I can't wait. The cast is amazing |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 8:16:56 PM EST
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: i came up with this years ago It is by coffee alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by coffee alone I set my mind in motion. 
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Posted: 9/9/2020 8:21:50 PM EST
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You should watch Prisoners too, it's fucking amazing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sicario was amazing, by far my favorite movie. It's more of a mystery movie than an action movie. You should watch Prisoners too, it's fucking amazing. Prisoners gets me every time. Chilling movie. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 8:24:04 PM EST
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: the whole time i was like. Dune, isn't that the dumb movie with the giant sand worms. It is a very good book written in the 60s that was made into a cringy (imo) movie in the 80s. This adaptation will hopefully be much better, and more faithful to the book. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 8:24:10 PM EST
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I should read those books. It's one series I've never gotten around to. @sitdwnandhngon I'll probably be skewered for this, but I suggest reading "Dune" and stopping there. I found the next 2 boring as hell. The one after that, God Emperor of Dune, is better but pretty weird. Didn't care at all for anything that came next. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 8:44:12 PM EST
[#6]
5 pages and no comments on the Tranny?
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Posted: 9/9/2020 8:57:08 PM EST
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh look a new version of the hot salty garbage that is Dune. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 8:59:36 PM EST
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @sitdwnandhngon I'll probably be skewered for this, but I suggest reading "Dune" and stopping there. I found the next 2 boring as hell. The one after that, God Emperor of Dune, is better but pretty weird. Didn't care at all for anything that came next. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I should read those books. It's one series I've never gotten around to. @sitdwnandhngon I'll probably be skewered for this, but I suggest reading "Dune" and stopping there. I found the next 2 boring as hell. The one after that, God Emperor of Dune, is better but pretty weird. Didn't care at all for anything that came next. agreed. read Dune then just read the wikipedia summaries of the next 3 books |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 9:01:31 PM EST
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: agreed. read Dune then just read the wikipedia summaries of the next 3 books |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 9:03:08 PM EST
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @sitdwnandhngon I'll probably be skewered for this, but I suggest reading "Dune" and stopping there. I found the next 2 boring as hell. The one after that, God Emperor of Dune, is better but pretty weird. Didn't care at all for anything that came next. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I should read those books. It's one series I've never gotten around to. @sitdwnandhngon I'll probably be skewered for this, but I suggest reading "Dune" and stopping there. I found the next 2 boring as hell. The one after that, God Emperor of Dune, is better but pretty weird. Didn't care at all for anything that came next. You are not wrong. Frank Herbert wrote lots of AMAZING science fiction other than Dune. However, the sequels to Dune are not really among them. The Dosadi Experiment is incredible, as is the Destination: Void trilogy, and some of his short stories. But the second and third Dune books are not really that great. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 9:11:02 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You are not wrong. Frank Herbert wrote lots of AMAZING science fiction other than Dune. However, the sequels to Dune are not really among them. The Dosadi Experiment is incredible, as is the Destination: Void trilogy, and some of his short stories. But the second and third Dune books are not really that great. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 9:11:28 PM EST
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks good idk if the pink Floyd fits well Watch "Jodorowsky's Dune" and get back to us. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 9:15:16 PM EST
[#13]
It looks promising, as others have said the book is extremely hard to condense into a movie.
I hope they get this right. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 9:16:00 PM EST
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nerd alet. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You are not wrong. Frank Herbert wrote lots of AMAZING science fiction other than Dune. However, the sequels to Dune are not really among them. The Dosadi Experiment is incredible, as is the Destination: Void trilogy, and some of his short stories. But the second and third Dune books are not really that great. You betcha!
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Posted: 9/9/2020 9:21:41 PM EST
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You are not wrong. Frank Herbert wrote lots of AMAZING science fiction other than Dune. However, the sequels to Dune are not really among them. The Dosadi Experiment is incredible, as is the Destination: Void trilogy, and some of his short stories. But the second and third Dune books are not really that great. Is Dosadi a sequel or standalone? Either way, I just ordered it. 
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Posted: 9/9/2020 9:22:13 PM EST
[#16]
Denis Villeneuve and a great, big production budget. Should be good. Will Watch.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 9:24:37 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Crusade" instead of "Jihad?"  yeah gheeyyyyyy |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 9:37:19 PM EST
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @sitdwnandhngon I'll probably be skewered for this, but I suggest reading "Dune" and stopping there. I found the next 2 boring as hell. The one after that, God Emperor of Dune, is better but pretty weird. Didn't care at all for anything that came next. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I should read those books. It's one series I've never gotten around to. @sitdwnandhngon I'll probably be skewered for this, but I suggest reading "Dune" and stopping there. I found the next 2 boring as hell. The one after that, God Emperor of Dune, is better but pretty weird. Didn't care at all for anything that came next. Unpopular opinion, but I agree with this and not only for being boring. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 9:37:40 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Butlerian Jihad was in the past. If he is talking about a future event, either word might be appropriate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "Crusade" instead of "Jihad?" The Butlerian Jihad was in the past. If he is talking about a future event, either word might be appropriate. Pretty sure Frank Herbert meant "jihad" and not "crusade." The Fremen culture and even language was derived from Arabic, and the religion they followed was "Zensunni," a blending of Buddhism and Sunni Islam. This is an attempt to PC a book that has principles steeped in fanatical Islam. That being said, the Dune novels are my favorite book series of all time. I also like that they chose Jason Momoa to play Duncan Idaho. If the movies continue beyond the first book, we will be seeing him in a lot of movies. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 9:38:21 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is Dosadi a sequel or standalone? Either way, I just ordered it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You are not wrong. Frank Herbert wrote lots of AMAZING science fiction other than Dune. However, the sequels to Dune are not really among them. The Dosadi Experiment is incredible, as is the Destination: Void trilogy, and some of his short stories. But the second and third Dune books are not really that great. Is Dosadi a sequel or standalone? Either way, I just ordered it. Dosadi is a stand-alone novel (although I belive it’s in the same universe, and possible shares a character with Whipping Star, another great novel.) Destination:Void is the first book in a trilogy (with the Ascension Factor, and The Lazarus Effect being the two other books) ... and I think a fourth book, the name of which I forget. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 9:40:22 PM EST
[#21]
It looks just like every other big budget movie that's been made in the past 10+ years. I was hoping to see something different from that trailer.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 9:40:37 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh look a new version of the hot salty garbage that is Dune. The good news is you can probably find the twilight saga on DVD in bargain bins at this point. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 9:44:25 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Right - but that is AFTER he meets them, right? If the quote from the trailer is from before he meets them, then it could be appropriate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Butlerian Jihad was in the past. If he is talking about a future event, either word might be appropriate. In the book he constantly references the potential Fremen conquest as a jihad. Not sure if I care if they change it in the movie. Right - but that is AFTER he meets them, right? If the quote from the trailer is from before he meets them, then it could be appropriate. Except for the fact that the word "crusade" is not used in the book. Pre-and post meeting the Fremen, the word "Jihad" is used. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 9:56:18 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why does Hollywood insist on sticking to a now very tired and worn out formula for trailers? Deep BOOM sounds to create a sense of dread, with an older pop/rock song, redone in a super slowed down dramatic fashion? I love Dune 1984 (we are watching it now with our 14 year old), so I'm not so sure about this one yet. So much CGI, the worms look fake as crap. Maybe it's just the way the trailer is done. I loved Bladerunner 2049 so I have hope. I loved the 1984 Dune too, but it seems we’re a minority. Guess we gotta get our Jihad on. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 9:56:49 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like they remade Dune 1984 which sucked. The Mini-series was better. Fucking BS the mini series was good, but 1984 Dune was art. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 10:00:37 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nerd alet. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You are not wrong. Frank Herbert wrote lots of AMAZING science fiction other than Dune. However, the sequels to Dune are not really among them. The Dosadi Experiment is incredible, as is the Destination: Void trilogy, and some of his short stories. But the second and third Dune books are not really that great. Yep 
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Posted: 9/9/2020 10:07:39 PM EST
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I loved the 1984 Dune too, but it seems we’re a minority. Guess we gotta get our Jihad on. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why does Hollywood insist on sticking to a now very tired and worn out formula for trailers? Deep BOOM sounds to create a sense of dread, with an older pop/rock song, redone in a super slowed down dramatic fashion? I love Dune 1984 (we are watching it now with our 14 year old), so I'm not so sure about this one yet. So much CGI, the worms look fake as crap. Maybe it's just the way the trailer is done. I loved Bladerunner 2049 so I have hope. I loved the 1984 Dune too, but it seems we’re a minority. Guess we gotta get our Jihad on. Crusade!!!
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Posted: 9/9/2020 10:14:25 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Star Wars is Dune with a two-digit IQ. Honestly, George Lucas got lucky with Star Wars. If his wife wasn't there to edit his original dogshit cut into something watchable, and he didn't have someone else make a good sequel, nobody would have remembered it. All the other Star Wars movies since have ranged from meh to total garbage. You are correct. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 10:16:26 PM EST
[#29]
I have somehow become a Dune lover over the decades. Lynch's version was very influential in my youth. The book is perfection in literature. The SciFi miniseries was stylistically simple, but did a much better job than Lynch's, where he skipped most of the good stuff with a montage.
This movie looks to be the best adaptation yet. Everything in the trailer looks perfect, from Ornithopters to the look and feel of characters. If they focus on the Fremen (Free Men) and the tribal bonding of Paul and his transition to a messiah, then it will be undoubtedly excellent. I really loved the look and feel of Oblivion. This film looks like a very similar cinematographically. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 10:26:42 PM EST
[#30]
Loved the book, haven't read it in decades. HATED the original movie. Hopefully this will be better.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 10:29:57 PM EST
[#31]
Dune 1984 is amazing. Never understood the hate.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 10:58:41 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I loved the 1984 Dune too, but it seems we're a minority. Guess we gotta get our Jihad on.  "Dune" (1984): The Sleeper Must Awaken |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:01:35 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dune 1984 is amazing. Never understood the hate. I suspect it’s because people focus on the cheesy parts and disregard the genius parts. And the purists are upset because it isn’t 18 hours long. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:02:48 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dune 1984 is amazing. Never understood the hate. Look at Alien, Blade Runner, etc. Dune (1984) has a very inconsistent balance of effort in the scenes, and was dated before it ever hit theaters. ETA: As I said in the earlier thread, I think a determined party with access to all the original film and everything that hit the cutting room floor could salvage the 1984 work. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:10:48 PM EST
[#35]
I really hope the new one adds the inner monologues. So much of the book's depth comes from the inner monologues.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:19:02 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You are not wrong. Frank Herbert wrote lots of AMAZING science fiction other than Dune. However, the sequels to Dune are not really among them. The Dosadi Experiment is incredible, as is the Destination: Void trilogy, and some of his short stories. But the second and third Dune books are not really that great. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I should read those books. It's one series I've never gotten around to. @sitdwnandhngon I'll probably be skewered for this, but I suggest reading "Dune" and stopping there. I found the next 2 boring as hell. The one after that, God Emperor of Dune, is better but pretty weird. Didn't care at all for anything that came next. You are not wrong. Frank Herbert wrote lots of AMAZING science fiction other than Dune. However, the sequels to Dune are not really among them. The Dosadi Experiment is incredible, as is the Destination: Void trilogy, and some of his short stories. But the second and third Dune books are not really that great. He also wrote a lot of...not so great fiction. Hellstrom's Hive and Green Brain were... something. I kinda gave up on him after that, so I never read Dune. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:23:21 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He also wrote a lot of...not so great fiction. Hellstrom's Hive and Green Brain were... something. I kinda gave up on him after that, so I never read Dune. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I should read those books. It's one series I've never gotten around to. @sitdwnandhngon I'll probably be skewered for this, but I suggest reading "Dune" and stopping there. I found the next 2 boring as hell. The one after that, God Emperor of Dune, is better but pretty weird. Didn't care at all for anything that came next. You are not wrong. Frank Herbert wrote lots of AMAZING science fiction other than Dune. However, the sequels to Dune are not really among them. The Dosadi Experiment is incredible, as is the Destination: Void trilogy, and some of his short stories. But the second and third Dune books are not really that great. He also wrote a lot of...not so great fiction. Hellstrom's Hive and Green Brain were... something. I kinda gave up on him after that, so I never read Dune. Yeah -I deliberately didn’t mention those two.
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:33:20 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dune 1984 is amazing. Never understood the hate. I think that comes from the fans of the book. Heard the same griping over Jackson's version of the Lord of the Rings. Fortunately, I went into both having never read Dune or LOTR. The film whet my appetite for Tolkien. Read The hobbit, LOTR and Silmarillion after the last trilogy film. I saw the 1980s Dune in the original release. Thoroughly enjoyed it. If it happens to come on the tube, I get sucked in again. I will finally read Dune after seeing this film. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:43:54 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How is Duncan Idaho a mentat? Unless he later became one as a ghola(clone). I don’t recall that. I never read much past the first four (?, first three for sure). He was more like a personal bodyguard I thought. Idaho was recloned over and over and over. What was it I read, over 200 times? |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:49:17 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I loved the movie as well. Despite it's obvious limitations, mostly due to the movie format and effects limitations of the time, it felt like it captured the tone of the books so well. There was a sense of gravitas you get from reading a lot of the dialogue, and Lynch captured that better than the Sci Fi version IMHO. I think it had a lot to do with the cast - Jurgen Prochnow, Patrick Stewart, and the rest gave it a very Shakespearean sense of depth that I just loved. While there was much I loved about the Sci Fi version, the actors just didn't speak with that kind of gravitas that made you want to read the lines over and over to find some new depth.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAUqvzNaN2o Yeah, the gravitas coupled with incomprehensibility is great. The future should be weird, and for the aesthetic, Lynch was the perfect dude. Like the scene where the union rep for the Spacing Guild rolls in and demands answers from the emperor. On its face it’s a clunky exposition scene that explains the trap being laid for Atreides. But everything from the mutated navigator in the spice gas tank, to the guy mad-dogging the Emperor before he walks out, to the guy with the squeegee, is pitch perfect: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGqdE1NdMTg |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:53:50 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, the gravitas coupled with incomprehensibility is great. The future should be weird, and for the aesthetic, Lynch was the perfect dude. Like the scene where the union rep for the Spacing Guild rolls in and demands answers from the emperor. On its face it's a clunky exposition scene that explains the trap being laid for Atreides. But everything from the mutated navigator in the spice gas tank, to the guy mad-dogging the Emperor before he walks out, to the guy with the squeegee, is pitch perfect: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AGqdE1NdMTg |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 11:54:07 PM EST
[#42]
So how....woke Is it ?
What character changes were made for SJW purposes ? |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 12:24:50 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Crusade" instead of "Jihad?" CRUSADE! DEUS VULT! |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 12:29:13 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dune 1984 is amazing. Never understood the hate. Dune 1984 Alan Smithee version was the best. I was just watching a fan edit that was better than Lynch's version. I'm looking forward to Villenueve's version. I understand it's the first half of the book, and that the second half WILL be made per Villeneuve's contract. I'm hoping that Dune Messiah will be made. Frank Herbert used Dune Messiah to accomplish what he started with the first book, which was to warn us about following heroes. |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 12:30:24 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It was very poorly done. It was so poorly done that the director wouldn't even put his real name to it. Look at Alien, Blade Runner, etc. Dune (1984) has a very inconsistent balance of effort in the scenes, and was dated before it ever hit theaters. ETA: As I said in the earlier thread, I think a determined party with access to all the original film and everything that hit the cutting room floor could salvage the 1984 work. This is incorrect. There was an extended version that was shown on cable, to which he would not attach his name. It is superior to his own version in every respect. |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 12:35:54 AM EST
[#46]
I’ll make a prediction now that this will do well but not gangsta numbers just like his other movies.
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Posted: 9/10/2020 1:32:28 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You are not wrong. Frank Herbert wrote lots of AMAZING science fiction other than Dune. However, the sequels to Dune are not really among them. The Dosadi Experiment is incredible, as is the Destination: Void trilogy, and some of his short stories. But the second and third Dune books are not really that great. A lot of Herberts work was kind of a spiritually related to the concepts in Dune. God is Man, Computers are God, God is created by Man, reality is created by thought. See the Jesus Effect and sequels, specifically see the Godmakers. Dune is a really, really, really boring book. It's tedious to get thru. The series is actually some of his worst writing. Of course there all better than the crap is son put out.... Read the first book, read the summaries of the other books. Don't read anything that was put out after he died. It all comes down at the end to be akin to Foundation actually (it's kind of a rip-off) with the AI's and the humans. The 1984 movie is to the books like Starship Trooper is to the book, it kind of uses the ideas and names, but it has an agenda. I watch Dune the same way I watch ST, for the fun of it. I wonder if they'll had out a glossary of definitions before the movie like they did in 1984? (What's a Cuisinart Hatrack?) 
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Posted: 9/10/2020 4:56:30 AM EST
[#48]
Nice, though I am not sure about the Floyd music being used in it.
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Posted: 9/10/2020 5:07:03 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In the book, Paul is fifteen years old, and is described as small for his age Some of you complaining that he looks small or like a “soy boy” should trying reading the book again, rather than criticizing the director, who apparently DID read the book. ETA: beaten like a soy boy. My gripe is that he Talks like a soyboy and acts like a soyboy. Looks-wise, he’s passable. |
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Posted: 9/10/2020 5:20:53 AM EST
[#50]
All my life I have been a prolific reader of Science Fiction.
For some strange reason I could never finish Dune, although I tried a couple of times. The story just did not capture my interest. Everybody else talks about how great it is but the story was boring to me. I like other Frank Herbert books but not Dune. Oh well. |
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