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Posted: 5/19/2023 9:37:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhy the fuck can’t those leeches buy their own ammo? |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 9:38:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you sure this article is correct? Taiwan BUYS something and aren’t demanding it for free? Well there’s a pleasant fucking change. Taiwan has PAID already money in our banks for billions of arms and simply hasn’t gotten it with China threatening them daily and they keep buying more waiting and hoping we’ll deliver someday. https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2022/08/25/chinas-neighbors-are-buying-us-weapons-washington-isnt-delivering/  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 9:41:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Losing European support against China would be significant. Not so much military as economic. If we had let Ukraine get rolled over, much of Europe would be trying to make nice with Russia, and would be definitely not be on board with cutting China off from investment in strategic technology. Some but not all of Europe https://www.politico.eu/article/emmanuel-macron-china-america-pressure-interview/  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 9:43:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With the ramping up of production of weapons and munitions that would be too late for China. The USA and NATO are drastically increasing production. China's best time to attack is now but they aren't ready. If they attack we will not be alone in defending Taiwan. Australia, South Korea and Japan are all gearing up in preparation to take on China. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The timeline is the issue and as I've posted on this page there's numerous delays on weapons both Taiwan and Ukraine both require https://breakingdefense.com/2022/10/navy-leader-cant-rule-out-chinese-invasion-of-taiwan-even-earlier-than-2027/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8840_jpeg-2822384.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8841_jpeg-2822385.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8843_jpeg-2822386.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8842_jpeg-2822387.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8844_jpeg-2822388.JPG Ramping up production means in 10 years we will have sufficient capability, not today and not 5 years. |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 9:46:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why the fuck can’t those leeches buy their own ammo? Russia deliberately destroyed Ukraine’s economy so at this point Ukraine would have to get loans approved and even if they win tomorrow it will be a long time to rebuild their economy and pay back loans. But I guess European countries could co-sign loans? https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/ukraines-economy-needs-saving-as-well/2023/02/03/e11a0cfc-a381-11ed-8b47-9863fda8e494_story.html  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 9:47:37 PM EDT
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NATO is either being prudent in increasing readiness or something has them spooked
“The proposed move comes as a top NATO official, Admiral Rob Bauer, warned that preparations were needed because "a conflict can present itself at any time." |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 9:51:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: NATO is either being prudent in increasing readiness or something has them spooked “The proposed move comes as a top NATO official, Admiral Rob Bauer, warned that preparations were needed because "a conflict can present itself at any time." https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-nato-alliance-war-1801199?amp=1  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 9:52:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Australia is far, a small country and China is trying to bribe naval bases in the Solomon Islands to cut them off from USA support and they won't get the subs before 2030. Japan has a 5 year plan to grow its military so that's 2028. Ukraine wants South Korea's stuff. But PACOM last and current commanders say war is likely no later than 2027 https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/05/17/asia/ukraine-zelenska-south-korea-non-lethal-military-hardware-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8857_jpeg-2822431.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8861_jpeg-2822432.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8858_jpeg-2822433.JPG |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 9:55:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So 6 years would be too late for China. Glad you agree. What am I supposedly agreeing with? |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 9:57:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ramping up production means in 10 years we will have sufficient capability, not today and not 5 years. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The timeline is the issue and as I've posted on this page there's numerous delays on weapons both Taiwan and Ukraine both require https://breakingdefense.com/2022/10/navy-leader-cant-rule-out-chinese-invasion-of-taiwan-even-earlier-than-2027/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8840_jpeg-2822384.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8841_jpeg-2822385.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8843_jpeg-2822386.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8842_jpeg-2822387.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8844_jpeg-2822388.JPG Ramping up production means in 10 years we will have sufficient capability, not today and not 5 years. One of the good things this was has shown is that our production capabilities is to low. We're fixing that shortcoming. |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 10:01:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everything I've seen says 3-5 years for total production boost. Meanwhile we're doubling and tripling production and stock piling weapons. If China waits 6 years they're fucked. The time for them to take Taiwan is now. But they aren't ready. They need to arm up and we're drastically increasing our production now. In 5 years we will be pumping out missiles and ammo. One of the good things this was has shown is that our production capabilities is to low. We're fixing that shortcoming. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The timeline is the issue and as I've posted on this page there's numerous delays on weapons both Taiwan and Ukraine both require https://breakingdefense.com/2022/10/navy-leader-cant-rule-out-chinese-invasion-of-taiwan-even-earlier-than-2027/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8840_jpeg-2822384.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8841_jpeg-2822385.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8843_jpeg-2822386.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8842_jpeg-2822387.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8844_jpeg-2822388.JPG Ramping up production means in 10 years we will have sufficient capability, not today and not 5 years. One of the good things this was has shown is that our production capabilities is to low. We're fixing that shortcoming. For the US, there are several future funding decision points that will need to be made and the last one is in 5 years, so not close to be fully ramped up in 3-5 years. |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 10:02:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ramping up production means in 10 years we will have sufficient capability, not today and not 5 years. If you are taking about big ticket items like ships, you after probably right. Ammo will be faster “The think tank's report noted that defense contractors have committed to tripling the annual production of 155 mm shells over the next few years.” https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/us-defense-industry-scrambles-boost-artillery-production-aid-ukraine-deter-china |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 10:03:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For the US, there are several future funding decision points that will need to be made and the last one is in 5 years, so not close to be fully ramped up in 3-5 years. |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 10:04:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia deliberately destroyed Ukraine’s economy so at this point Ukraine would have to get loans approved and even if they win tomorrow it will be a long time to rebuild their economy and pay back loans. But I guess European countries could co-sign loans? https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/ukraines-economy-needs-saving-as-well/2023/02/03/e11a0cfc-a381-11ed-8b47-9863fda8e494_story.html https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8870_jpeg-2822478.JPG They have some onlyfans girls, no? Send them to me and I’ll make Faded Sun look Russian. 
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Posted: 5/19/2023 10:05:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why the fuck can’t those leeches buy their own ammo? Ukraine? Because they don’t have enough money. Ukrainian GDP is about the same as Arkansas, which is a great state… but I don’t think it could hold off Russia by its lonesome. |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 10:06:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you are taking about big ticket items like ships, you after probably right. Ammo will be faster “The think tank's report noted that defense contractors have committed to tripling the annual production of 155 mm shells over the next few years.” https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/us-defense-industry-scrambles-boost-artillery-production-aid-ukraine-deter-china Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ramping up production means in 10 years we will have sufficient capability, not today and not 5 years. If you are taking about big ticket items like ships, you after probably right. Ammo will be faster “The think tank's report noted that defense contractors have committed to tripling the annual production of 155 mm shells over the next few years.” https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/us-defense-industry-scrambles-boost-artillery-production-aid-ukraine-deter-china There are like 3 future funding decisions points to be made to reach that capability, the last one is about 5 years out. Meaning that is aspirational and depends on funding adds yet to be made. |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 10:07:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everything I've seen says 3-5 years for total production boost. Meanwhile we're doubling and tripling production and stock piling weapons. If China waits 6 years they're fucked. The time for them to take Taiwan is now. But they aren't ready. They need to arm up and we're drastically increasing our production now. In 5 years we will be pumping out missiles and ammo. One of the good things this was has shown is that our production capabilities is to low. We're fixing that shortcoming. You’re saying China is not ready but 2 Admirals responsible for the AO told Congress otherwise. That’s not even including the Taiwanese foreign minister, CIA or rando Air Force generals. China gets to decide when they want to conduct operations much like Moscow when it invaded Ukraine over pretext of claiming to rescue “Russian speakers persecuted by Kiev and nazis” |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 10:09:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're saying China is not ready but 2 Admirals responsible for the AO told Congress otherwise. That's not even including the Taiwanese foreign minister, CIA or rando Air Force generals. China gets to decide when they want to conduct operations much like Moscow when it invaded Ukraine over pretext of claiming to rescue "Russian speakers persecuted by Kiev and nazis" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Everything I've seen says 3-5 years for total production boost. Meanwhile we're doubling and tripling production and stock piling weapons. If China waits 6 years they're fucked. The time for them to take Taiwan is now. But they aren't ready. They need to arm up and we're drastically increasing our production now. In 5 years we will be pumping out missiles and ammo. One of the good things this was has shown is that our production capabilities is to low. We're fixing that shortcoming. You're saying China is not ready but 2 Admirals responsible for the AO told Congress otherwise. That's not even including the Taiwanese foreign minister, CIA or rando Air Force generals. China gets to decide when they want to conduct operations much like Moscow when it invaded Ukraine over pretext of claiming to rescue "Russian speakers persecuted by Kiev and nazis" |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 10:11:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ukraine? Because they don’t have enough money. Ukrainian GDP is about the same as Arkansas, which is a great state… but I don’t think it could hold off Russia by its lonesome. From what I’ve seen, Arkansas would be in Moscow by now. |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 10:19:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're the one posting links saying China won't be ready for six years. That's what I'm responding to. ? No PACOM says no later than 2027 but even if it were 2027 Taiwan has 4 years to acquire, train for proficiency and employ that weaponry BEFORE April of 2027. I guess everyone is impressed by Ukraine’s performance but learning to effectively operate, command and control and create maintenance structure for weapons isn’t overnight and there’s no Romania or Poland for Taiwan to receive aid, assistance or maintenance from. |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 10:22:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're the one posting links saying China won't be ready for six years. That's what I'm responding to. https://amp.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3196553/us-navy-should-prepare-invasion-taiwan-soon-year-fleet-chief-says  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 10:23:20 PM EDT
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If PedoJoe is for it, it is a shitty plan.
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Posted: 5/19/2023 10:24:21 PM EDT
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What a shit show
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Posted: 5/19/2023 10:34:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/19/2023 10:48:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Losing European support against China would be significant. Not so much military as economic. If we had let Ukraine get rolled over, much of Europe would be trying to make nice with Russia, and would be definitely not be on board with cutting China off from investment in strategic technology. Some but not all of Europe https://www.politico.eu/article/emmanuel-macron-china-america-pressure-interview/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8866_jpeg-2822453.JPG I fully expect if war with China comes, all of the European countries begging the US to help in Ukraine will vanish and say it is not their war. It would be a very European thing to do. Only the UK and Poland were very adamant about supporting Ukraine. Some of the Baltic as well, but those could not contribute in any meaningful way. The rest would only do something if the US did it first. That is part of the reason why I am happy Japan is building up its military. |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 11:14:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is where all republican legislators need to go war with the Biden admin to stop this craziness. They’ll sit silent and argue over minutia instead. But but mah christian savior Putin will vanquish the globohomos |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 11:19:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I fully expect if war with China comes, all of the European countries begging the US to help in Ukraine will vanish and say it is not their war. It would be a very European thing to do. Only the UK and Poland were very adamant about supporting Ukraine. Some of the Baltic as well, but those could not contribute in any meaningful way. The rest would only do something if the US did it first. That is part of the reason why I am happy Japan is building up its military. Britain probably contributes a couple subs, a couple aircraft, a handful of ships and a couple battalions of infantry in coordination with Australia https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-japan-boost-defense-chips-semiconductors-ties-g7/amp/  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/19/2023 11:58:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/taiwan-flags-risk-stinger-missile-delays-says-pressing-us-2022-05-03/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8830_jpeg-2822368.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8831_jpeg-2822369.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8832_jpeg-2822370.JPG I'll be honest, I usually scroll past your posts. I know I know, you used to be pretty cool but I just don't get what you are trying to say. Here we have screenshots of 3 articles, two from 2022 worrying about supplying stingers to Taiwan that sandwich around an article from 2023 saying Taiwan is going to buy more. You give a link to the article for the first screenshot, but not the others. What are you trying to say? |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 4:13:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll be honest, I usually scroll past your posts. I know I know, you used to be pretty cool but I just don't get what you are trying to say. Here we have screenshots of 3 articles, two from 2022 worrying about supplying stingers to Taiwan that sandwich around an article from 2023 saying Taiwan is going to buy more. You give a link to the article for the first screenshot, but not the others. What are you trying to say? Ninja magic best to just keep scrolling past |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 5:14:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: None It'll be American and nato pilots.. Says you? It’s impossible for Ukrainian pilots to ever adapt for another platform 
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Posted: 5/20/2023 5:15:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's literally a Russian bot. Anything he says is literally Russian propaganda. Oswald was interesting too
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Posted: 5/20/2023 5:18:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you sure this article is correct? Taiwan BUYS something and aren’t demanding it for free? Well there’s a pleasant fucking change. Taiwan isn’t being Bombed and invaded right now. Ukraine is |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 5:21:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What production rate will we be at in 5 years? I've seen reports that our artillery production will be 100k a month and missile production will be quadruple what it is now in 4 years Fy 24 has the purchase of a thousand JASMs |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 5:31:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why the fuck can’t those leeches buy their own ammo? Having their economy cratered and being bombed may have something to do with that. |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 5:45:46 AM EDT
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There is evidently an agenda by some to ramp up the threat of a Chinese invasion of Taiwan as an excuse to cut off aid to Ukraine. I guess 10% for the Big Guy, fight against globohomo, or UkrNazis wasn't getting the expected traction.
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Posted: 5/20/2023 6:21:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So why are the munitions continuously escalating into systems we can't afford to lose? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Russia's capabilities have been greatly reduced by Ukraine. It'll probably take them a decade or more to rearm if the war stopped today. They'll lost an incredible amount of equipment and man power. Their top units have been decimated. So why are the munitions continuously escalating into systems we can't afford to lose? We can't afford to lose 50 old DUTCH F-16's?? This is serioulsy peak clown world. You folks make the DU tards look halfway sane. |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 6:26:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember when the US wasn’t on the verge of financial collapse? Because of the help we provide Ukraine? Really, that's like going to Guam and hoping that will cause it to flip over. Maybe we should cull the leeches here before we complain about sending aid to Ukraine to assf..k our oldest global enemy. You know, the one we spent trillions on to prepare to go to to toe agains. Giving aid to Ukraine is the best spent money in the last 80 years. |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 6:29:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We can't afford to lose 50 old DUTCH F-16's?? This is serioulsy peak clown world. You folks make the DU tards look halfway sane. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Russia's capabilities have been greatly reduced by Ukraine. It'll probably take them a decade or more to rearm if the war stopped today. They'll lost an incredible amount of equipment and man power. Their top units have been decimated. So why are the munitions continuously escalating into systems we can't afford to lose? We can't afford to lose 50 old DUTCH F-16's?? This is serioulsy peak clown world. You folks make the DU tards look halfway sane. I understand you don’t know words so well but F16s are not munitions |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 6:33:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I understand you don’t know words so well but F16s are not munitions Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Russia's capabilities have been greatly reduced by Ukraine. It'll probably take them a decade or more to rearm if the war stopped today. They'll lost an incredible amount of equipment and man power. Their top units have been decimated. So why are the munitions continuously escalating into systems we can't afford to lose? We can't afford to lose 50 old DUTCH F-16's?? This is serioulsy peak clown world. You folks make the DU tards look halfway sane. I understand you don’t know words so well but F16s are not munitions Maybe, just maybe you should sit in the corner, shut you mouth for once and be ashamed after you look at the red part. Do YOU understand words? I guess not. |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 6:36:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I understand you don’t know words so well but F16s are not munitions So in your world of preparing for war with China, you would simply cut off all military aid to Ukraine? Am I stating your position accurately or is it more nuanced? If so explain your position. |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 6:45:08 AM EDT
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Better stock up on 1,000,000,000 SPF sunblock because it's coming if this keeps escalating. Back an animal in a corner long enough and it will bite. Everyone knows were these F-16's will come from. Just because they're laundered through a different country doesn't mean we aren't sending them. With wide open borders like we have I'd imagine 9/11 will look like nothing compared to what could happen here. Something something, be careful of a man that has nothing to lose.
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Posted: 5/20/2023 6:53:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Losing European support against China would be significant. Not so much military as economic. If we had let Ukraine get rolled over, much of Europe would be trying to make nice with Russia, and would be definitely not be on board with cutting China off from investment in strategic technology. Some but not all of Europe https://www.politico.eu/article/emmanuel-macron-china-america-pressure-interview/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/459941/IMG_8866_jpeg-2822453.JPG A Dutch company (ASML) makes the most advanced chip production machienes, this is pretty much cutting edge stuff and effectivly not replicable. At US request NL stopped shipping any cutting edge stuff to China quite some time ago and recently at US request has stopped shipping mid tier machienes. Macron is fucked at the next election and is just floating shit to appeal to his leftwing fringe. https://nltimes.nl/2023/01/28/netherlands-us-agree-export-restriction-asml-chip-machines "Minister Liesje Schreinemacher (Foreign Trade) previously stated the talks were about maintaining Western technological leadership. The negotiating countries also want to avoid too much dependence on China for chips. In addition, the U.S. and the Netherlands want to prevent advanced chips from being used in weapons by countries such as China. But the Netherlands would not simply meet all of the Americans' demands, the minister stressed." |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 6:55:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Better stock up on 1,000,000,000 SPF sunblock because it's coming if this keeps escalating. Back an animal in a corner long enough and it will bite. Everyone knows were these F-16's will come from. Just because they're laundered through a different country doesn't mean we aren't sending them. With wide open borders like we have I'd imagine 9/11 will look like nothing compared to what could happen here. Something something, be careful of a man that has nothing to lose. So you are worried about a Russian nuclear response but not a Chinese one? Interesting. |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 7:01:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So you are worried about a Russian nuclear response but not a Chinese one? Interesting. I wouldn't say worried, just making an observation. I'm good. Just making a quick comment and leaving this mess. There are no right answers here. |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 7:02:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Better stock up on 1,000,000,000 SPF sunblock because it's coming if this keeps escalating. Back an animal in a corner long enough and it will bite. Everyone knows were these F-16's will come from. Just because they're laundered through a different country doesn't mean we aren't sending them. With wide open borders like we have I'd imagine 9/11 will look like nothing compared to what could happen here. Something something, be careful of a man that has nothing to lose. What utter nonsense, sounds like something complied by Chat Gtp  NL for instance paid for our F-16s and now have them in surplus because they have been replaced by F-35s that have also been paid for. |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 8:00:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Better stock up on 1,000,000,000 SPF sunblock because it's coming if this keeps escalating. Back an animal in a corner long enough and it will bite. Everyone knows were these F-16's will come from. Just because they're laundered through a different country doesn't mean we aren't sending them. With wide open borders like we have I'd imagine 9/11 will look like nothing compared to what could happen here. Something something, be careful of a man that has nothing to lose. BS. Nobody is threatening Russia and the Russians can always go back home. All they’ll lose is some face, but their country will remain the same shithole it is now, nothing will change when they leave Ukraine. |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 8:03:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When did so many Americans puss out over Russia. I dont remember so much bed-whetting during the Cold War... I'm not trying to comment on every-single-UA thread... but THIS is an important observation. Rooskie FUD campaigns have infected the brains of weak minded Americans on both sides. We knew this was happening, and few things surprise me, but I was SHOCKED at how the GD of every major gun forum is overflowing with Communist false-narratives designed to discourage Free-World resistance to Neo-Soviet violent expansionism. Guys who used to love America, and embrace our values and culture, turned straight up ORIENTAL craving for serfdom under an oppressive tyrant like Putin. They were clearly and not indirectly saying to each other- don't hate the Enemy, hate your fellow American! Legendary warriors picked up some kind of narrative like, I would never encourage anyone to serve in the military so long as my party keeps losing elections. They were repeating bizarre nonsequitur linkages like, So long as we have a fentanyl crisis, we need to appease the Soviets in all things! I read once- We should meet with the largest, weakest nation in the East and engage in bilateral negotiations to determine the freedom and fate of former Soviet states and... spoiler alert- push them back behind the Iron Curtain. (I suppose they don't realize that Romania, alone, could completely zero-out the Russian military in 90 days- and they would strike inside Russia) Every single day, the coffee starts to drip in the Kremlin bright and early, and the Soviets ask themselves, "What can we get away with today that will go right up to the limit, but not provoke an American response?" It's been going on like this for decades. The obvious answer is- Fucking NOTHING... Russia is weak, and the only reason we listen to them is Energy. The penalty for misbehavior is not a tariff on vodka or cutting off their supply of limes either- it's LARGE NUMBERS of Rooskie KIA, every day, with only one way to make it stop. F-16s are on the way- Rooskies can expect improved daily totals soon- in all categories. It's only going to get worse, and worse, and worse... until either Russian withdrawal, or collapse and fragmentation. |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 8:06:24 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not trying to comment on every-single-UA thread... but THIS is an important observation. Rooskie FUD campaigns have infected the brains of weak minded Americans on both sides. We knew this was happening, and few things surprise me, but I was SHOCKED at how the GD of every major gun forum is overflowing with Communist false-narratives designed to discourage Free-World resistance to Neo-Soviet violent expansionism. Guys who used to love America, and embrace our values and culture, turned straight up ORIENTAL craving for serfdom under an oppressive tyrant like Putin. They were clearly and not indirectly saying to each other- don't hate the Enemy, hate your fellow American! Legendary warriors picked up some kind of narrative like, I would never encourage anyone to serve in the military so long as my party keeps losing elections. They were repeating bizarre nonsequitur linkages like, So long as we have a fentanyl crisis, we need to appease the Soviets in all things! I read once- We should meet with the largest, weakest nation in the East and engage in bilateral negotiations to determine the freedom and fate of former Soviet states and... spoiler alert- push them back behind the Iron Curtain. (I suppose they don't realize that Romania, alone, could completely zero-out the Russian military in 90 days- and they would strike inside Russia) Every single day, the coffee starts to drip in the Kremlin bright and early, and the Soviets ask themselves, "What can we get away with today that will go right up to the limit, but not provoke an American response?" It's been going on like this for decades. The obvious answer is- Fucking NOTHING... Russia is weak, and the only reason we listen to them is Energy. The penalty for misbehavior is not a tariff on vodka or cutting off their supply of limes either- it's LARGE NUMBERS of Rooskie KIA, every day, with only one way to make it stop. F-16s are on the way- Rooskies can expect improved daily totals soon- in all categories. It's only going to get worse, and worse, and worse... until either Russian withdrawal, or collapse and fragmentation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When did so many Americans puss out over Russia. I dont remember so much bed-whetting during the Cold War... I'm not trying to comment on every-single-UA thread... but THIS is an important observation. Rooskie FUD campaigns have infected the brains of weak minded Americans on both sides. We knew this was happening, and few things surprise me, but I was SHOCKED at how the GD of every major gun forum is overflowing with Communist false-narratives designed to discourage Free-World resistance to Neo-Soviet violent expansionism. Guys who used to love America, and embrace our values and culture, turned straight up ORIENTAL craving for serfdom under an oppressive tyrant like Putin. They were clearly and not indirectly saying to each other- don't hate the Enemy, hate your fellow American! Legendary warriors picked up some kind of narrative like, I would never encourage anyone to serve in the military so long as my party keeps losing elections. They were repeating bizarre nonsequitur linkages like, So long as we have a fentanyl crisis, we need to appease the Soviets in all things! I read once- We should meet with the largest, weakest nation in the East and engage in bilateral negotiations to determine the freedom and fate of former Soviet states and... spoiler alert- push them back behind the Iron Curtain. (I suppose they don't realize that Romania, alone, could completely zero-out the Russian military in 90 days- and they would strike inside Russia) Every single day, the coffee starts to drip in the Kremlin bright and early, and the Soviets ask themselves, "What can we get away with today that will go right up to the limit, but not provoke an American response?" It's been going on like this for decades. The obvious answer is- Fucking NOTHING... Russia is weak, and the only reason we listen to them is Energy. The penalty for misbehavior is not a tariff on vodka or cutting off their supply of limes either- it's LARGE NUMBERS of Rooskie KIA, every day, with only one way to make it stop. F-16s are on the way- Rooskies can expect improved daily totals soon- in all categories. It's only going to get worse, and worse, and worse... until either Russian withdrawal, or collapse and fragmentation.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 8:09:35 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe, just maybe you should sit in the corner, shut you mouth for once and be ashamed after you look at the red part. Do YOU understand words? I guess not. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Russia's capabilities have been greatly reduced by Ukraine. It'll probably take them a decade or more to rearm if the war stopped today. They'll lost an incredible amount of equipment and man power. Their top units have been decimated. So why are the munitions continuously escalating into systems we can't afford to lose? We can't afford to lose 50 old DUTCH F-16's?? This is serioulsy peak clown world. You folks make the DU tards look halfway sane. I understand you don’t know words so well but F16s are not munitions Maybe, just maybe you should sit in the corner, shut you mouth for once and be ashamed after you look at the red part. Do YOU understand words? I guess not. I’m amazed at the hubris of people who don’t know what they don’t even know, trying to explain to people who have lived this their entire life. If anyone should be ashamed, you definitely are the top of that list |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 8:11:56 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So in your world of preparing for war with China, you would simply cut off all military aid to Ukraine? Am I stating your position accurately or is it more nuanced? If so explain your position. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I understand you don’t know words so well but F16s are not munitions So in your world of preparing for war with China, you would simply cut off all military aid to Ukraine? Am I stating your position accurately or is it more nuanced? If so explain your position. I said repeatedly supplying Ukraine has created a capability gap, and that gap will not be closed anywhere near the supposed Davidson window closes. And if you have to Google the Davidson window you fall into a group of you don’t know what you don’t know |
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