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Posted: 9/20/2013 8:12:37 AM EDT
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They are junk.
Lots of problems with the converters and fuel pumps already. They will not hold up to Police duty anywhere near what the Crown Vic did. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 8:12:50 AM EDT
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What next, minivans? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We just got these. Not sure how I feel about that yet. http://stwot.motortrend.com/files/2011/03/2012-Ford-Taurus-2012-Ford-Explorer-Police-Interceptor-Action-.jpg What next, minivans? Nah, minivans aren't fast enough. You just know that SUV is fast as fuck because the paint gets all blown backwards like... POLICE <wooshing sounds> |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 8:12:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I didnt know anyone still used gumball machine lights |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 8:16:22 AM EDT
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I like what our Florida boys are driving. I just hope I don't meet one under unfortunate circumstances. <a href="http://s756.photobucket.com/user/vanvideo/media/arfcom%20stuff/fhp_zps5ee08922.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx201/vanvideo/arfcom%20stuff/fhp_zps5ee08922.jpg</a> I had a Tropper tell Me that there is some issue with the A/C blower motor and it has RF interference with His radio. He said that if He is on a call and radio dispatch or other officer He has to have the A/C off to talk and sweat His ass off. When He does not need the radio He can turn it back on. Dodge refused to fix the issue since it is not a Dodge radio unit installed. This was on more than one Car. Not to mention with the radio and camera gear in the trunk the Dodge is VERY small interior and trunk space. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 8:17:10 AM EDT
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I just have to put up with these....
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Posted: 9/20/2013 8:17:25 AM EDT
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I didnt know anyone still used gumball machine lights Last time I was one of those was 15 years ago in east Texas. 88 in a 55. 
Got a warning. 
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Posted: 9/20/2013 8:18:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just have to put up with these.... https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6118/6247295104_b0a4fbdb2c_z.jpg |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 8:19:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had a Tropper tell Me that there is some issue with the A/C blower motor and it has RF interference with His radio. He said that if He is on a call and radio dispatch or other officer He has to have the A/C off to talk and sweat His ass off. When He does not need the radio He can turn it back on. Dodge refused to fix the issue since it is not a Dodge radio unit installed. This was on more than one Car. Not to mention with the radio and camera gear in the trunk the Dodge is VERY small interior and trunk space. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I like what our Florida boys are driving. I just hope I don't meet one under unfortunate circumstances. <a href="http://s756.photobucket.com/user/vanvideo/media/arfcom%20stuff/fhp_zps5ee08922.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx201/vanvideo/arfcom%20stuff/fhp_zps5ee08922.jpg</a> I had a Tropper tell Me that there is some issue with the A/C blower motor and it has RF interference with His radio. He said that if He is on a call and radio dispatch or other officer He has to have the A/C off to talk and sweat His ass off. When He does not need the radio He can turn it back on. Dodge refused to fix the issue since it is not a Dodge radio unit installed. This was on more than one Car. Not to mention with the radio and camera gear in the trunk the Dodge is VERY small interior and trunk space. Local Deputy was telling me that when he turned to the right the radio volume would go up, and then when he would straighten out the wheel the radio would change frequencies in his Charger. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 8:31:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We just got these. Not sure how I feel about that yet. http://stwot.motortrend.com/files/2011/03/2012-Ford-Taurus-2012-Ford-Explorer-Police-Interceptor-Action-.jpg And sorry MSP, but the gumball lights just look stupid on a modern car. The little sign on the hood is even worse.
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Posted: 9/20/2013 8:33:55 AM EDT
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The "Pushbars" are pretty much useless, just remove the damn things and save the taxpayer the money and the mechanics, their backs. The rest I like.
They look like rotten ass too, you could stick a winch mount between the bumper and the front of it. They are far to large for what they really are, my Warn winch mount doesn't stick out that far and it actually has purpose. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 8:35:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm glad they do. I think it's kinda cool. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I didnt know anyone still used gumball machine lights |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 8:35:39 AM EDT
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They almost have enough lights on that thing.. And sorry MSP, but the gumball lights just look stupid on a modern car. The little sign on the hood is even worse. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We just got these. Not sure how I feel about that yet. http://stwot.motortrend.com/files/2011/03/2012-Ford-Taurus-2012-Ford-Explorer-Police-Interceptor-Action-.jpg And sorry MSP, but the gumball lights just look stupid on a modern car. The little sign on the hood is even worse. Tradition doesn't care about aesthetics. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 8:37:41 AM EDT
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I didnt know anyone still used gumball machine lights Those are fucking awful. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 8:37:42 AM EDT
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The "Pushbars" are pretty much useless, just remove the damn things and save the taxpayer the money and the mechanics, their backs. The rest I like. The Ohio State Highway Patrol doesn't have pushbars. Just a couple days ago we had to push a car for 'em. It seems to me that pushbars on a *highway* patrol vehicle could be useful from time to time. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 8:45:24 AM EDT
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The Ohio State Highway Patrol doesn't have pushbars. Just a couple days ago we had to push a car for 'em. It seems to me that pushbars on a *highway* patrol vehicle could be useful from time to time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The "Pushbars" are pretty much useless, just remove the damn things and save the taxpayer the money and the mechanics, their backs. The rest I like. The Ohio State Highway Patrol doesn't have pushbars. Just a couple days ago we had to push a car for 'em. It seems to me that pushbars on a *highway* patrol vehicle could be useful from time to time. I don't think those "pushbars" are actually rated to push anything. There isn't really anything substantial to mount them to that will stand up to repeated use. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 8:49:14 AM EDT
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Was hoping for something more like: http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/4422554/mad-max-ending-o.gif Glad I wasn't the only one who thought that... |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 8:49:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Says the guy who wears bell-bottoms. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I didnt know anyone still used gumball machine lights  |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 8:52:32 AM EDT
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no shit. and what is up with that sign on the hood  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I didnt know anyone still used gumball machine lights no shit. and what is up with that sign on the hood That's a nod to tradition, too. 
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Posted: 9/20/2013 8:55:35 AM EDT
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I like them. I think most police/state patrol cars should have sirens just like that.
1. Because the siren/lights are easily visible to other nearby drivers within a certain radius of the police car (the safe driver "halo") they will go the speed limit, use their blinkers, and not drive like tailgating a-holes. 2. This creates a much safer driving environment along the highway, which can create a ripple-like effect of safe driving behind the "halo" (cars behind the halo will have to slow down) 3. Having easily visible, well-marked police cars aligns very well with the mission statement "to protect and serve." Creates a visible presence in the neighborhood. They look more "friendly" than the unmarked, bullet-proof, stealth vehicles. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 8:58:13 AM EDT
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I had a Tropper tell Me that there is some issue with the A/C blower motor and it has RF interference with His radio. He said that if He is on a call and radio dispatch or other officer He has to have the A/C off to talk and sweat His ass off. When He does not need the radio He can turn it back on. Dodge refused to fix the issue since it is not a Dodge radio unit installed. This was on more than one Car. Not to mention with the radio and camera gear in the trunk the Dodge is VERY small interior and trunk space. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I like what our Florida boys are driving. I just hope I don't meet one under unfortunate circumstances. <a href="http://s756.photobucket.com/user/vanvideo/media/arfcom%20stuff/fhp_zps5ee08922.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx201/vanvideo/arfcom%20stuff/fhp_zps5ee08922.jpg</a> I had a Tropper tell Me that there is some issue with the A/C blower motor and it has RF interference with His radio. He said that if He is on a call and radio dispatch or other officer He has to have the A/C off to talk and sweat His ass off. When He does not need the radio He can turn it back on. Dodge refused to fix the issue since it is not a Dodge radio unit installed. This was on more than one Car. Not to mention with the radio and camera gear in the trunk the Dodge is VERY small interior and trunk space. That's on the radio installer, not Dodge. There are ways to prevent the problem. Any reputable Public Safety Radio shop would never have let them go out the door like that. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 9:00:26 AM EDT
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need a pic of that sheriff from "live and let die" james bond....
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Posted: 9/20/2013 9:00:27 AM EDT
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gumball lights LOL
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Posted: 9/20/2013 9:01:26 AM EDT
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The SHO model is very fun to drive, we test drove one before buying our Audi.
The MSP bubblegum light and front "STOP" sign are almost TOO retro now. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 9:03:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had a Tropper tell Me that there is some issue with the A/C blower motor and it has RF interference with His radio. He said that if He is on a call and radio dispatch or other officer He has to have the A/C off to talk and sweat His ass off. When He does not need the radio He can turn it back on. Dodge refused to fix the issue since it is not a Dodge radio unit installed. This was on more than one Car. Not to mention with the radio and camera gear in the trunk the Dodge is VERY small interior and trunk space. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I like what our Florida boys are driving. I just hope I don't meet one under unfortunate circumstances. <a href="http://s756.photobucket.com/user/vanvideo/media/arfcom%20stuff/fhp_zps5ee08922.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i756.photobucket.com/albums/xx201/vanvideo/arfcom%20stuff/fhp_zps5ee08922.jpg</a> I had a Tropper tell Me that there is some issue with the A/C blower motor and it has RF interference with His radio. He said that if He is on a call and radio dispatch or other officer He has to have the A/C off to talk and sweat His ass off. When He does not need the radio He can turn it back on. Dodge refused to fix the issue since it is not a Dodge radio unit installed. This was on more than one Car. Not to mention with the radio and camera gear in the trunk the Dodge is VERY small interior and trunk space. That's a problem in Middleburg, not with Dodge.
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Posted: 9/20/2013 9:04:02 AM EDT
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That is the silliest looking police car I have ever seen.
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Posted: 9/20/2013 9:04:07 AM EDT
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The Crown Vic's departure left a gaping hole in the market.
Alaska State Trooper are running some Tauruses, they look ok. The eco-boost model is not pursuit rated, so I doubt MSP's uniforms are eco-boost. I loved the gumball when I lived in MI, works better than any radar detector. The Chevy Caprice is also a cramped miserable p.o.s. to get in and out of, and so far harmonic balancers are disenegrating at 10k mi like clockwork, undetected it's wiping out cooling fans and radiators, no other major issues yet I know of. It's wicked fast with the 6.0, and likes to oversteer so its very fun to drive. There's a rumor of column shifters coming out so that might free up the interior some. The Charger is junk, we have only a few and we've lost several camshafts, the highest mileage is less than 40k mi and they've all had the front ends rebuilt atleast once, the brakes are good for about 15k mi, and a couple have experienced mysterious transmission issues that so far the dealer cannot fix. And any auto trans car that doesn't come with a trans dipstick should not be purchased, that's the biggest red flag I've ever seen in a vehicle. Push bars are not for ramming down walls, or trees, but they do work for pushing disabled cars, and are generally cheaper to replace than have body work done in minor accidents, deer strikes and the like. We don't run them, but the local sheriffs do, knowing a county mechanic and what he says I'd say they're worth it, if the majority of the officers are decent drivers, ours are not, I suspect for our department they would contribute to structural damage innstead of preventing asthetic damage. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 9:12:05 AM EDT
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Was talking about the new fords with a PA state trooper friend the other day and he mentioned that they're nice, but all of the left handed troopers hate them. Apparently the space on the left between the door panel and seat is such that the left handed shooters can't draw from a seated position with the door closed. No clue if it's true or not, but he said that he and the other lefties are still driving the vics for this one reason.
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Posted: 9/20/2013 9:15:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/20/2013 9:23:30 AM EDT
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My CVPI has almost a 120k on it. It will be a sad day when she goes away.
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Posted: 9/20/2013 9:27:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/20/2013 9:49:52 AM EDT
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Was talking about the new fords with a PA state trooper friend the other day and he mentioned that they're nice, but all of the left handed troopers hate them. Apparently the space on the left between the door panel and seat is such that the left handed shooters can't draw from a seated position with the door closed. No clue if it's true or not, but he said that he and the other lefties are still driving the vics for this one reason. Noticed the other day that there are now a few PASP Expeditions running around our county. Wonder if they are being used for officers who need more room on the left side? |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 10:00:43 AM EDT
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Noticed the other day that there are now a few PASP Expeditions running around our county. Wonder if they are being used for officers who need more room on the left side? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Was talking about the new fords with a PA state trooper friend the other day and he mentioned that they're nice, but all of the left handed troopers hate them. Apparently the space on the left between the door panel and seat is such that the left handed shooters can't draw from a seated position with the door closed. No clue if it's true or not, but he said that he and the other lefties are still driving the vics for this one reason. Noticed the other day that there are now a few PASP Expeditions running around our county. Wonder if they are being used for officers who need more room on the left side? I'm not sure, I'll ask him if I see him at the gym tonight. I've been seeing the new PSP Tauruses and Explorers all over the place recently...The Taurus paint scheme is much different than the Vics and is very low key, so identifying them will be a pain until I get adjusted. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 10:16:52 AM EDT
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This is what the village my father policed for 30 years is driving now
First thing I thought was that show Pimp my ride 
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Posted: 9/20/2013 10:22:36 AM EDT
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I would hate to drive one of these instead of the Hemi Charger I've driven the Charger patrol cars. It has to be better than the Charger, because the Charger is a horrible patrol car. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 10:24:56 AM EDT
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The Charger is junk, we have only a few and we've lost several camshafts, the highest mileage is less than 40k mi and they've all had the front ends rebuilt atleast once, the brakes are good for about 15k mi, and a couple have experienced mysterious transmission issues .... Yep. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 10:29:47 AM EDT
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they are LED gumballs, just a hommage type thing Do they have the mind-dazzling epiletic-seizure setting that the LED bar lights use? |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 10:33:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do they have the mind-dazzling epiletic-seizure setting that the LED bar lights use? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: they are LED gumballs, just a hommage type thing Do they have the mind-dazzling epiletic-seizure setting that the LED bar lights use? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdPe9EJQujE |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 10:37:34 AM EDT
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God's Special People can't decide on a paint scheme.
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Posted: 9/20/2013 10:37:53 AM EDT
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The "Pushbars" are pretty much useless, just remove the damn things and save the taxpayer the money and the mechanics, their backs. The rest I like. They look like rotten ass too, you could stick a winch mount between the bumper and the front of it. They are far to large for what they really are, my Warn winch mount doesn't stick out that far and it actually has purpose. Are you kidding? As a taxpayer I love that shit - gumball machines, pushbars, a 50lb spotlight assembly on the side? Make those cars stand out on the highway! That gay ass sign on the hood is excellent. I am going to write my reps and demand that here. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 10:43:32 AM EDT
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I'm sitting about 3/4 of a mile from where that pic was taken, right now. Let me answer a few of the questions for you.
The answer to most of them is TRADITION. As in, pride in your past. A nod to your heritage. The "gumball" light and the hood mounted Side Stop light are both cherished bits of hardware form our long history (we're approaching our 100th anniversary!). You can read more about it on WIKI: History of the MSP We employ vehicles from many auto makers (all US, for obvious reasons .....except motorcycles. We now have a mix of Harleys and BMWs...) We are just now rolling out the Tarus' (WHY, GOD, WHY?!??!) We also just introduced the Explorer shown in the previously posted pic (in our blue livery , of course). Our primary vehicles are Dodge Chargers, Chevy Tahoe's and quite a few Crown Vics still in service. There are also a few Suburbans and if you want to really have your mind blown we technically have a bunch of soccer mom vans, tiny Chrysler 200s, Ford focuses and assorted miscellaneous vehicles as "investigative" vehicles. FUN FACT: MSP is world renowned for our vehicle testing. Agencies from around the world rely on the dat we generate from our vigorous and comprehensive testing (I'm typing this about 200 yards from the test track, BTW). While we will no longer be producing hardbound printed books of the results, you can now view them online: MSP Vehicle Testing Reports Hope that clarifies things for you. 
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Posted: 9/20/2013 10:43:51 AM EDT
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Its an MSP thing. So gay. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I didnt know anyone still used gumball machine lights no shit. and what is up with that sign on the hood Its an MSP thing. So gay. What is wrong with tradition? Those lights and stop bar on the hood have been around forever. The stop bars on the hood used to light up when they pulled up next to you to get you to pull over. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 10:46:41 AM EDT
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Quoted: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7325/9733990245_2e0bcc2f7b_b.jpg MSP NGPI Sedan by LakeshoreEmergencyOutfitters, on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7432/9737226242_873468fe02_b.jpg MSP NGPI Sedan by LakeshoreEmergencyOutfitters, on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7290/9733993481_8272ef8b1e_b.jpg MSP NGPI Sedan by LakeshoreEmergencyOutfitters, on Flickr The photos work, but somebody didn't test their links, FAIL! The link you specified, http, doesn't lead anywhere. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 10:49:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The photos work, but somebody didn't test their links, FAIL! The link you specified, http, doesn't lead anywhere. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7325/9733990245_2e0bcc2f7b_b.jpg MSP NGPI Sedan by LakeshoreEmergencyOutfitters, on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7432/9737226242_873468fe02_b.jpg MSP NGPI Sedan by LakeshoreEmergencyOutfitters, on Flickr http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7290/9733993481_8272ef8b1e_b.jpg MSP NGPI Sedan by LakeshoreEmergencyOutfitters, on Flickr The photos work, but somebody didn't test their links, FAIL! The link you specified, http, doesn't lead anywhere. I did that on purpose. There is a weird thing on flickr, if I copy the link and pics over, they turn into emails to the page owner, and I wanted to avoid that. Anyway, here is the page the pics come from. http://www.flickr.com/photos/31085415@N03/ |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 10:49:54 AM EDT
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That's cause they are trying to trick you using their magic "stealth" cars.................
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God's Special People can't decide on a paint scheme. http://images40.fotki.com/v1304/photos/4/49373/327423/cnpca11344-vi.jpg http://images16.fotki.com/v220/photos/4/49373/2960697/cnpca15702-vi.jpg http://images24.fotki.com/v854/photos/3/49373/9790127/cnpca17965-vi.jpg |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 10:50:21 AM EDT
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Gumballs!
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Posted: 9/20/2013 10:50:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: no shit. and what is up with that sign on the hood Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I didnt know anyone still used gumball machine lights no shit. and what is up with that sign on the hood MI keeps it retro. They're classy like that. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 10:53:25 AM EDT
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I just have to put up with these.... https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6118/6247295104_b0a4fbdb2c_z.jpg brake eating sum bitches |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 10:56:20 AM EDT
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That's cause they are trying to trick you using their magic "stealth" cars.................
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That's cause they are trying to trick you using their magic "stealth" cars.................
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God's Special People can't decide on a paint scheme. http://images40.fotki.com/v1304/photos/4/49373/327423/cnpca11344-vi.jpg http://images16.fotki.com/v220/photos/4/49373/2960697/cnpca15702-vi.jpg http://images24.fotki.com/v854/photos/3/49373/9790127/cnpca17965-vi.jpg The black ones especially piss me off, hiding in the medians on 96 & and I75/85 at night... |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 10:57:41 AM EDT
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Are you kidding? As a taxpayer I love that shit - gumball machines, pushbars, a 50lb spotlight assembly on the side? Make those cars stand out on the highway! That gay ass sign on the hood is excellent. I am going to write my reps and demand that here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The "Pushbars" are pretty much useless, just remove the damn things and save the taxpayer the money and the mechanics, their backs. The rest I like. They look like rotten ass too, you could stick a winch mount between the bumper and the front of it. They are far to large for what they really are, my Warn winch mount doesn't stick out that far and it actually has purpose. Are you kidding? As a taxpayer I love that shit - gumball machines, pushbars, a 50lb spotlight assembly on the side? Make those cars stand out on the highway! That gay ass sign on the hood is excellent. I am going to write my reps and demand that here. I'll give props to the MSP in that most of them have much better things to do then find hide spots and play Mr Laser. If they catch you, it probably because you are a real idiot who pays no attention to anything around you when driving. |
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Posted: 9/20/2013 10:57:46 AM EDT
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Yep..........they work great at night..........they are all over I-20 EB as well during the late evening
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That's cause they are trying to trick you using their magic "stealth" cars.................
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God's Special People can't decide on a paint scheme. http://images40.fotki.com/v1304/photos/4/49373/327423/cnpca11344-vi.jpg http://images16.fotki.com/v220/photos/4/49373/2960697/cnpca15702-vi.jpg http://images24.fotki.com/v854/photos/3/49373/9790127/cnpca17965-vi.jpg The black ones especially piss me off, hiding in the medians on 96 & and I75/85 at night... |
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