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Too fucking late, cunt. Rot in the hell you created.

TC

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Not reading the article yet, but I think it is female nature.  Breed with Alphas, settle down with Good Guys to pay the bills while nurturing.

No truer words ever spoken.

I was raised to treat women with the utmost respect and dignity. And I paid for it my whole dating life. Until I made the change in attitude last year, that is.

TC

OP, how do you encounter all these stories and videos?  

It's true though.   It's bizarre how many women absolutely crave being treated like shit.

On the flip side

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Oof she looks like Gru's twin brother  from Despicable Me 3

Human nature dictates she is chasing something she can’t have.

Correct—until they find out you’re a nice guy. Then, it’s over.

The old “caveman clubs them over the head and drags them off to his cave” cartoon was dead on. Women want a bad boy. Many say they don’t, but underneath...

TC

Women have a dual sex drive.  They want to pair bond with a stable, good provider.  They want to mate with an alpha, a bad boy.  What you are seeing is the struggle within that duality.

It's not hard to figure out how that strategy evolved.  Women needed support for a large portion of their lives while they were pregnant or tending to children.  And yet, without strong, virile genes from the father of the children, the women's genes would not survive.  Life is, literally, the survival of genes.

All of civilization has been geared towards taming the duality of female sexuality.  Hence, the male is a "man about town" and the woman is stoned to death.

You’re probably right about the author. But, for most young-ish women with a SMV above average, it’s dead on.

Of course, we have to insert the disclaimer that not all women with a high-ish SMV are like that. But the majority are and, in my experience, the description is accurate. So, we’ll generalize and those not like that girl will just have to accept our generalizations or move on.

TC

I mean. I don't know.


I'd like to think I don't treat anyone like shit... unless they really deserve it.

But I also don't go out of my way for anyone unless I feel they deserve it as well.

I've not ended up with a woman that I've really wanted exactly once, and I was 15 at the time. Lol.

Pursue the women you really want and get the job done. Take the free ones you get along the way. Spend time with those you find generally enjoyable, but accept you may have to do some friendzoning of your own along the way. And kick selfish, hateful bitches to curb.

^even that is more effort than I like to put in to thinking about it, lol.

...

Just spend time with good people, tell bad people to fuck off, and enjoy the relationships you find in whatever form they may be.

Maybe you'll die with a haram, maybe you'll die single. Either way, you are going to die.

"alpha fucks, beta bucks"

Yep.  I've seen this my entire life.  A man's looks and money doesn't matter either from what I've seen.  Once a woman gets everything she wants in a man at some point she decides something is missing.  It's sad that this woman is aware of her problem and that she is the source but does nothing to change.  Remember that the next time you hear a woman complain that men are immature and incapable of personal growth.

@MshakeMO

this one from came courtesy of Undead Chronic on YouTube

he's a weedloving gymbro who's a self-described redpill extremist

SHUT-UP, ALPHA CHAD

Not all women think like the author but there are a LOT of them.  I can see how women who aren't like that would think it's nonsense.

I was the "nice guy" for a long time.   I put a lot of effort, thought, and money into things.   Not in a planned way I just thought that was the right way to go about things.

I'm willing to believe I just didn't meet the right person who appreciated that but from the moment I stopped giving a fuck it's been a steady stream of success.

Of course..   Those women are irreversibly fucked up and you eventually have to run them off but with those combined experiences why would I sign a contract with one anyway?  

“I cried the entire drive home”

She left out, “because I realized I’m a slut”

treating them like shit/dirt is hyperbolic

it's not pedestalizing them, simple as

but YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT ALPHA CHAD

So she's a nice person. She is.
Mistaken about a few things, guaranteeing this she can't guarantee (and no one can) - she's just too young to know that.
Many guys are like the ones in the article, I was once too.

You don't have to become a jerk to girls or sleep around in order to be successful, just IMHO.
You work on your pre-selection qualities, with time and attention paid to the bottlenecks in whatever your case is.
For me my look needed work, and I put the work in.

I don't hate the girls who "rejected" me once upon a time, I was not then the guy I am now!
But I'm also thankful they let me go, and they let me experience some of the nice moments I got to have in the years that followed.

..... though I will admit, a few women I liked from 15-20 have decided they want to kick the tires on me, and I can now laugh a little bit.
One chased chads her whole life and now needs a bailout, she's 50lbs heavier and looks every minute of her age.
The other doesn't understand how behind the 8ball she is on understanding who men are and what they like - she's unconcerned with finding out.
As much as I laugh a little, I also feel bad. They don't realize they're in trouble, I'd honestly prefer they not age out of having children. I don't wish that on anyone, not even on someone whose great awful crime was being a teenage girl who said no to a teenage boy who hadn't put himself together yet.

For the 18 year old guys (we do have teenager guys into guns who read this board) lurking!
King, work on yourself. No your goofy hairstyle or patchy facial hair does NOT "work for you", it's holding you back.
Work on yourself, on becoming the best version of yourself, if you want to treat a good girl who is your girlfriend and wears that title, hell, do it!
Some like it!
Hone those desires into game, it's a good tool.
And don't give it out to a woman until the time is right.

No need to be a jerk. No need to sleep around.
You can adopt some of those tools, on woman-prospecting, without becoming a PUA. IIRC Jordan Peterson put it this way.
"Work on making yourself desirable to many women, but choose only one."
I agree. I'm not gunna hurt some poor girl, who, under my loud mouth and humor smells vintage "nice guy".
It's not worth hurting her, or having some other poor guy deal with her wounds later.
It's also not worth taking her theoretically off market, when she should be with a good guy who wants to marry her, and ASAP.
It's not fair to her or that other man who might like her.
To those guys who got their SMV up? good.
Do what's right for you, her, and your fellow man. Be the change you want to see in the world, and act traditionally if you want to see traditionalism come back.
It starts with you, man.


And for life's rewards?
Fuckin A I'll never forget the looks on the faces of the women who passed on me (and in later years, I passed on) when they saw my ex for the first time - who was gorgeous.
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The superficial girls? the "I WILL ONLY DATE this chad who won't commit to me" girls?
When they saw my (now ex) girlfriend?
Absolutely seething with rage.  
Fucking seething.

"b-b-b-but that's the guy that's not good enough for me?!?
His girlfriend is a touch thinner and more attractive, and she said yes to him?
But, wait... thaaat meannns..."
Yup!.
You looked down on a guy you should not have looked at that way. Lady, you are still single in part because you won't date men your actual level.
It's amazing to watch them do the math in real time.



The good girls, who - we just weren't compatible with eachother for personality reasons?
High-fives.
And many of those good girls are married or engaged now, and I did the same for them.
Those girls were happy for me!
The dopes?
S E E T H I N G.


To the guys on the fence, the ones who quit, those other ones who aren't where they want to be right now - to the youngsters that think the game is hopeless?
Naw. You don't have to be shitty to women and mistreat them in the dating environment, and you shouldn't. Men are built for combat, you're built tougher than that, you don't have to drop the best parts of your playbook because you used them at the wrong time without realizing it.  Let's have less dating casualties littering this field, and we can effect that by not wounding people and walking off, if we can help it.
I really believe that if you work on yourself, choose as best you can, and stick with those things 24/7 365, eventually "chance" might smile upon you and off you go on your way to living that aspect of life.
The rewards are pretty good.
I think so anyway, I intend to find out.


"Disregard Thots, acquire wives."

@beitodesstrafe

Since you're here and we are discussing sluts..   A few weeks ago a woman who spent the night took off while it was still dark to take her mother and sister somewhere.

Apparently her shirt smelled like liquor, regret, or whatever so she grabbed one of mine that I purchased because of one of your posts.

"Bukkake ruined my carpet".    She was stuck with it for half a day.   Her mother didn't get it but her sister and plenty of other people did.

Purchase justified.  

I know we're just having fun. I'm hardly someone who considers myself a Chad.

But, yeah, the "not pedestalizing" part is clutch.

People are just people. A lack of a penis doesn't change that.

That's fucking awesome.

Winning

walk of shame
T-shirt of shame

OP, how many threads like this are you gonna start today?

It is getting in the way of the scheduled bi-weekly beans/no beans chili thread?

My daughter has started dating (Jesus help me) and I'm glad to see she behaves nothing like that.  She's has no tolerance for bullshit and doesn't really respond to guys with "game".  She's well aware of which ones are the notorious poon hounds and has blocked them.
She likes guys that are interesting and show some interest in her beyond her chest.  I'm fairly proud of her really so far.  That's not me saying she should be dating 'M'lady' fedora wearing losers, but I glad that so far she does not seek or enjoy 'drama' or look at how many guys have nailed her for her measure of self-esteem.  I think her interest and pursuit of sports helped in that, giving her a focus and some other peers driven by more than "Am I pretty and popular".

I've tried to keep myself from being the stereotype dad, and I think I've been roughly successful there as she will come and tell me about what's going on in her "I'm not asking, but what do you think about this" way.  I'm grateful for that connection.  This society makes it insanely difficult not just in raising but on the kids too.  The pressure to whore out is enormous.  

your peers decide if you're a chad or not

It's because our world has changed, but women's instincts haven't kept up.

Women were attracted to the biggest, strongest cavemen for a reason.  They offered the best chances for a provider that gave her and her children the best chances for survival.

Modern world is different.  Physical strength means nothing for being a provider.  Alpha mentality, yes, but not a certainty by any means and is not required.  For every Fortune 500 CEO alpha-minded dude there's probably hundreds or thousands alpha-minded asshole deadbeats.

9mm vs 45

Honestly, she does deserve something........ exactly what she is getting

You don't need a lot of money if you have a big deck.

It's not the guys, it's you.

Here is a “nice” guy with zero text game.

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Right from the start he struggles. She tries to help him, practically begging him to banter and challenge her. But he doubles down on needy and triple texts her.

His second text should have been “no, it’s your lucky day”

His third text should have been “a nymphomaniac who owns an off- roading store”

In a way we do.  

Bright colored hair: previously totalled / written off as a flood loss

etc.

Deserve?

Today's winner of Word of the Day is VectorX!

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My advice to younger men and boys is to not try to be the man women say they are looking for, but look at who they actually do pick.

Believe nothing she says and everything she does

Most girls used to grow out of the "bad boy phase" by late teens - early adulthood with a few not letting it go. Now it's kind of mutated to a "dumb / bad boy phase" and more and more are staying in that phase indefinitely.

There is a difference between being a “nice guy”, and being a chump, but you will never be able to get that through to a chump.

Yep.

Bitches. Amiright?

I have a son who got friend zoned, hard, by a quite attractive young lady in his HS class.  She's definitely hit the genetic lottery and still won't make it out of the poverty gutter her family keeps dragging her back through.  I laughingly refer to her as "daughter".  Anyways, Son #2 got the FZ and he was all sorts of bummed last year.  Now they're all getting ready to graduate.  All the girls are looking at their boyfriends and the are seemingly unimpressed.  Meanwhile, Son #2 is on track to a full scholarship for his pre-med and actually has a team of doctors pulling for him as they will work to guide him into medical school.  He also grew about five inches, lost his baby fat, and is suddenly this suave young guy who dabbles in martial arts, funk music, and has more money in his bank account than most American families.  My "daughter" is now seeing the error in her ways but it's too late, he's moved on.  Two of the girls in Son #1s Friend Zone have decided to weaponize Son #2 against the female species and have put him into Pootang Boot Camp.  If he survives the training, he'll be some kind of cross between Dr. House and Sterling Archer.  Heaven help us all.  

The two girls are unique.  Both are real lookers.  One is the product of a mother who got herself sold into a human trafficking scheme.  She's got tons of trust issues, has a propensity for violence, and is the most charming young lady you'll ever encounter.  The other one has been raped by most of her family and is currently living in a garage out behind one of here school friends' house.  She's the better looking of the two.  I think they've also done a Friend Zone on him for his own safety.

They do but so do men. Women can tell when a guy is trying to hard to be mr. right. I think there is a biological red flag when someone changes who they are to suit who they are around regardless of sex.

I’ve been the guy she described, went home alone after a date while my date went and got laid by a fuck buddy. She’s only seeing one side though. I’ve been the guys she described and went to a fuck buddy after the date.

He might have done the same....

People get too in their heads over finding a stable romantic relationship. If your attracted to each other, have good chemistry and like fucking each other that’s a solid foundation. Those are relatively in-controllable.

Responsibility, sacrifice and commitment are choices.

Guys need to stop trying to be marriage material on a date and women need to stop trying to be good time when they want a committed relationship.

It’s literally role reversal.