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I am filing this away behind "people who buy manual transmission vehicles are just showing off" in the lamest things I have read in GD catagory but thanks for the advice Hank Hill. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I sure would have loved to know the portions of what meats as well. I've screwed around with ground sirloin, chuck, round, etc and never really say to myself ' i've done it! This is the best burger!'. They always end up shrinky, breaky, or otherwise ...meh. My wife sure loves them - which is why I make them - but I could honestly take or leave a burger. How about a Subnet recipe? Thanks, View Quote I sometimes add additional fat (depends on the fat content of the short rib, brisket and sirloin), and oxtail would probably save me the trouble. And I'll bet it's delicious. I also have a burger press that makes perfect forms - just don't press the shit out of it. |
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Needs to be cooked a lot more than that This a properly cooked burger http://i.imgur.com/1GKn1bc.jpg View Quote A nice Medium is perfect for burgers for retaining juiciness. |
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Those burgers look delicious. I really wish he would have spend some time telling us how he made/formed those patties.
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charcoal is for hipsters and people who dont know what they're doing...which is a hipster View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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On a gas grill? Man has been cooking over wood fueled fire since the Stone Age. Ever been to a BBQ competition? Go to one and walk up to a few booths and then laugh at them calling them hipsters saying they don't know shit about cooking. Let us know how that works out for you. |
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Has he ever taken a food safety class? Handles raw beef, smears his hands on his dirty rag and then handles the buns. Food inspectors don't like that...
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I do, and I've never understood this argument. Gas isn't any faster, unless you're pulling pre-made patties out of the freezer. See all that shit he's got prepped and laying out by the grill? The coals are ready to rock by the time you've finished that. Start the coals in the chimney immediately before even looking at the kitchen, and they'll be ready by the time you've got your patties made, your sauce/spread created, your onions, tomatoes and lettuce cut and prepped, etc. Charcoal: Light the coals right now, then get your mise en place taken care of. Gas: Get your mise en place taken care of, then turn the burners on. Same difference. Fucking up the order isn't the fault of the charcoal. View Quote |
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Those burgers look delicious. I really wish he would have spend some time telling us how he made/formed those patties. View Quote |
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I have a burger press, but you can use a ring as a form. Find something about 4-5" or so in diameter, and use that. Can't find anything? Start looking through your canned goods. Saw an inch off the top. View Quote |
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All around excellent but a few nit-picks
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Look, I don't even own a gas grill, but really? Pulling the charcoal grill out, getting the charcoal stacked up in the fire starter, getting a flame under it and setting it up is seriously as fast as turning a knob? I mean there IS a time cost... But I usually throw a few wood chips of whatever flavor I want even when I do burgers, definitely adds to it. View Quote My charcoal grill lives on my back porch, and there is no pulling out required. Well, I do have to lift the lid. The bag of charcoal is out there right next to it. I pour the coals out of the bag into the chimney starter, place a single starter cube under it, light it, and walk inside the house to start the prep. If this takes 60 seconds by this point, I'll be a monkey's uncle. By the time I've grabbed everything out the fridge/cupboard/pantry and performed all of my preparation steps, it's been about 20 minutes. When I come back outside with my food, the coals are ready. Pour. Cook. At this point, somebody using gas would turn a knob as the final step. I took 60 seconds to light the coals, about 20 minutes ago. I've been prepping food during this time, not staring at a grill waiting on anything. Seriously, I don't know how to write this any differently. |
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That shit was driving me crazy the whole time. Nobody would make a burger with a tomato on the bottom. That and he used way too much mayo. I like mayo, but not three layers. He said 1/2 chuck 1/2 brisket. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He built it upside down, but ide eat it. Would also like to know the burger blend. That and he used way too much mayo. I like mayo, but not three layers. He said 1/2 chuck 1/2 brisket. |
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Maybe I'm just a germophobe, but he puts the meat on the grill with his bare hands, wipes them off on a towel, then starts touching the bun. No way the bun gets hot enough to get the raw meat germs killed off. And he touches all other sorts of things. Never. Washes. His. Hands. After handling raw meat.
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Maybe I'm just a germophobe, but he puts the meat on the grill with his bare hands, wipes them off on a towel, then starts touching the bun. No way the bun gets hot enough to get the raw meat germs killed off. And he touches all other sorts of things. Never. Washes. His. Hands. After handling raw meat. Maybe it's off camera... View Quote |
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There's no maybe about it. I'm going to call it confirmed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Maybe I'm just a germophobe, but he puts the meat on the grill with his bare hands, wipes them off on a towel, then starts touching the bun. No way the bun gets hot enough to get the raw meat germs killed off. And he touches all other sorts of things. Never. Washes. His. Hands. After handling raw meat. Maybe it's off camera... |
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I always wash after handling raw meat. Is that not the norm? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Maybe I'm just a germophobe, but he puts the meat on the grill with his bare hands, wipes them off on a towel, then starts touching the bun. No way the bun gets hot enough to get the raw meat germs killed off. And he touches all other sorts of things. Never. Washes. His. Hands. After handling raw meat. Maybe it's off camera... I'm only anal about it when handling raw poultry. For a burger patty that I ground myself? Nah. |
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I have a burger press, but you can use a ring as a form. Find something about 4-5" or so in diameter, and use that. Can't find anything? Start looking through your canned goods. Saw an inch off the top. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Those burgers look delicious. I really wish he would have spend some time telling us how he made/formed those patties. |
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The only risk in handling raw beef is the fat can make your hands slippery.
Eating it raw is perfectly fine as well. But I guarantee you GR is washing, but who wants to see that on camera? |
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I have a meat press. Meat sticks to it like crazy when you go to form the patty. I was really talking more about what portions of the meats he put together to make the ground, and maybe how he got the patty out of the press so well formed. View Quote ETA beat! |
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I have a meat press. Meat sticks to it like crazy when you go to form the patty. I was really talking more about what portions of the meats he put together to make the ground, and maybe how he got the patty out of the press so well formed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Those burgers look delicious. I really wish he would have spend some time telling us how he made/formed those patties.
And while I don't know exactly what he uses, my go-to grind is equal parts sirloin, short rib and brisket. Or just chuck by itself if I'm cheap and lazy. |
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I have a solution for everything. You've come to the right guy. Here's what I use with my press: www.amazon.com/dp/B00TDBVW7WAnd while I don't know exactly what he uses, my go-to grind is equal parts sirloin, short rib and brisket. View Quote Or 100% brisket (trimmed) if I'm lazy (still good) |
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Anyone have a goto burger press to make them nice and shapely?
Mine usually come out looking like loaves of salisbury steak. |
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Am I the only one that uses sous vide for burgers? Then torch them, of course.
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Anyone have a goto burger press to make them nice and shapely? Mine usually come out looking like loaves of salisbury steak. View Quote Just use a round form of some kind and your palm/fingers. I don't remember the exact brand that I picked up years ago, but this is the basic design:
They're all kind of the same. Don't over think it. Oh - and use wax paper on the top and bottom of the patty to prevent sticking. If you're really lazy (like me!), I posted a link to a box of 1000 5.5" square ones. |
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Needs to be cooked a lot more than that This a properly cooked burger http://i.imgur.com/1GKn1bc.jpg View Quote |
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Is love F Word, the one with James May is hilarious. His US version of it starts May 31st. View Quote i'll damn sure watch it, but british TV somehow loses the magic on the flight over. the BBC version is bar none my favorite cooking show both for entertainment and education. |
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Needs to be cooked a lot more than that This a properly cooked burger http://i.imgur.com/1GKn1bc.jpg View Quote |
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Maybe I'm just a germophobe, but he puts the meat on the grill with his bare hands, wipes them off on a towel, then starts touching the bun. No way the bun gets hot enough to get the raw meat germs killed off. And he touches all other sorts of things. Never. Washes. His. Hands. After handling raw meat. Maybe it's off camera... View Quote |
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I'm 47 and have one gas grill in my life when I first got married it came with the house. I used it a few times and it was given to my brother as I've always used charcoal. My brother basically never uses anything other than gas which works for him and others. I thus far only have Weber products (quite a few actually) and use them at least 2-3 times a week all year long.
My beater Weber sits outside all the time uncovered and has lasted about 15 years and while it looks like crap its structurally sound. As far as charcoal being a hassle that's false. Charcoal in chimney, light a Weber cube and give it some time to ash over. While the coals are getting ready I use the time to prep. Oh and dump the ash pan every once in a while. Easy. |
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Maybe I'm just a germophobe, but he puts the meat on the grill with his bare hands, wipes them off on a towel, then starts touching the bun. No way the bun gets hot enough to get the raw meat germs killed off. And he touches all other sorts of things. Never. Washes. His. Hands. After handling raw meat. Maybe it's off camera... View Quote |
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He actually got the order right! Looks very good and perfectly cooked. I'd like to see more browning which would get with charcoal. Fire wasn't hot enough.
He salt and peppered the tomato which is crucial. The added mayo on mater is great idea as the burger gets some of extra fat and the mater needs it. Mayo needs to be touching the meat. I bet that's amazing. Will have to try the grind ratio sometime. |
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I sure would have loved to know the portions of what meats as well. I've screwed around with ground sirloin, chuck, round, etc and never really say to myself ' i've done it! This is the best burger!'. They always end up shrinky, breaky, or otherwise ...meh. My wife sure loves them - which is why I make them - but I could honestly take or leave a burger. How about a Subnet recipe? Thanks, View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Surprisingly (I always expect a chef to get a little too creative with a burger), I didn't disagree with any of that. Like a lot of chefs though, he assumes a bit too much when "teaching" others. He didn't give any details on his chuck and brisket grind, other than commenting on how good it was and how the fat was just right. A lot of people would probably appreciate some details on the mayo thing he made, though I have my own creation that I'm quite fond of. If I have the time, I like caramelizing the onion instead. Grilling them like he did is great, too. He seasons a bit more than I do, but I'm not there to taste it. I'm sure it's good. I like that he went with what looks to be a butterhead lettuce of some sort. Nice. EDIT: He also assembled the burger in the proper order, which few people seem to get right. Thanks, |
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You only need a press if you're making a bunch of them and want to save time. Just use a round form of some kind and your palm/fingers. I don't remember the exact brand that I picked up years ago, but this is the basic design: www.amazon.com/dp/B000XB45DOThey're all kind of the same. Don't over think it. Oh - and use wax paper on the top and bottom of the patty to prevent sticking. If you're really lazy (like me!), I posted a link to a box of 1000 5.5" square ones. View Quote |
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He actually got the order right! Looks very good and perfectly cooked. I'd like to see more browning which would get with charcoal. Fire wasn't hot enough. He salt and peppered the tomato which is crucial. The added mayo on mater is great idea as the burger gets some of extra fat and the mater needs it. Mayo needs to be touching the meat. I bet that's amazing. Will have to try the grind ratio sometime. View Quote |
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About 100f higher smoke point than olive oil (~325f vs ~425f) and doesn't add any weird flavors if it doesn't get overheated so long as you don't scorch it. Really popular for frying things that you don't want to deep fry. You could go up to Pomace olive oil which has a really high smoke point similar to grapeseed, but you'll loose a ton of flavor in that heat, plus it's expensive.
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I grind it myself, and I use equal parts short rib, brisket and sirloin. And after reading this, I've been wanting to try replacing the short rib with oxtail: http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives/2009/10/the-burger-lab-best-burger-blend-profiles-of-eight-cuts-of-beef.html I sometimes add additional fat (depends on the fat content of the short rib, brisket and sirloin), and oxtail would probably save me the trouble. And I'll bet it's delicious. I also have a burger press that makes perfect forms - just don't press the shit out of it. Quoted:
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Maybe I'm just a germophobe, but he puts the meat on the grill with his bare hands, wipes them off on a towel, then starts touching the bun. No way the bun gets hot enough to get the raw meat germs killed off. And he touches all other sorts of things. Never. Washes. His. Hands. After handling raw meat. Maybe it's off camera... Hell, I do the same at home on occasion to save on seasoning or dishes. Just make sure that temps are hit properly. Mostly I was wondering where the pickle was. |
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I did a cute little "Tonight I turned this, into this" sort of post. Of course, I thought it would be nice to arrange everything I was going to use beforehand into an attractive looking picture. Honestly, I felt like I overcooked the pork a bit (something closer to medium...or dare I say it...medium rare would taste a lot better) and I was sure somebody would call me out on it. Nope. Quite the opposite. Pic #1 caused a ruckus. I didn't realize how anal some folks were about this stuff. View Quote |
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They also went straight on the grill for several minutes. While it's not something I'd have done, and would be against DEC rules in a restaurant, perfectly fine to do at home. Anything potential would be cooked off anyhow, not to mention with the quality of ingredients he uses on his shows, I really doubt he'll ever get something contaminated with a pathogen. Hell, I do the same at home on occasion to save on seasoning or dishes. Just make sure that temps are hit properly. Mostly I was wondering where the pickle was. View Quote |
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This. lettuce & tomato go on top. And he's missing dill pickles. Mt preference: Bun mayo Lettuce Tomato *optional: bacon* Cheese Burger patty Pickles Yellow mustard Bun View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He built it upside down, but ide eat it. Would also like to know the burger blend. Mt preference: Bun mayo Lettuce Tomato *optional: bacon* Cheese Burger patty Pickles Yellow mustard Bun I do like pickles (or even better, sweet-pickled jalapeños) on a burger, though. |
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