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Link Posted: 9/22/2020 10:55:34 AM EST
[#1]
Tombstone of the 2.

I also thought Perdition was a pretty good flick.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 10:57:50 AM EST
[#2]
Tombstone was the better movie, in the sense that it's cast and production values were better and it was very entertaining.

There is a long story on the production of Tombstone with several old west experts saying the original script was AMAZING from an historical perspective but something happened, the director got shit canned and the script was re-written more "Hollywood".  Still a great movie though.

I also loved Wyatt Earp, which was basically a biography, which is my favorite genre for reading and movies/TV.  

Kilmer's Holliday was more entertaining but Quaid's was much more realistic, and for that reason, I prefer Quaid's version.

I also think Russel as Wyatt Earp is one of those "born to play......" roles.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 10:58:12 AM EST
[#3]
As fun as it is, as good Val Kilmer's Holliday is... Tombstone doesn't have this scene.

Link Posted: 9/22/2020 11:00:05 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/22/2020 11:00:26 AM EST
[#5]
Tombstone is more fun and easy to watch in bits and pieces.

Wyatt Earp is good but really requires you to sit down and watch all the way through.  

I prefer Tombstone.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 11:03:43 AM EST
[#6]
Dude, you went for the throat, there is no Pie option!
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 11:06:06 AM EST
[#7]
Val Kilmer made Tombstone a great movie. The remake of True Grit with Jeff Bridges is right up there with it IMO.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 11:21:46 AM EST
[#8]
Tombstone was far better!  Plus, it was filmed in Arizona.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 11:27:59 AM EST
[#9]
Well what about ...

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Link Posted: 9/22/2020 11:28:56 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/22/2020 11:30:23 AM EST
[#11]
Warren Oates was the best version of Rooster Cogburn
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 11:34:49 AM EST
[#13]


Go ahead and fast forward to 2:12.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 12:09:04 PM EST
[#14]
I wish you would’ve taken the actors who played in Tombstone and put them in Wyatt Earp. I like Tombstone better but wish it had been more detailed like Wyatt Earp.

The guy they had plying Curly Bill? What a shit actor. The guy they had playing Ike? Shit actor as well.

Kevin Costner saying “My names Wyatt Earp!” Yeah...I would’ve laughed at him too. There were a lot of things I liked about the movie but there were some real cheesy lines.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 12:37:01 PM EST
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I wish you would’ve taken the actors who played in Tombstone and put them in Wyatt Earp. I like Tombstone better but wish it had been more detailed like Wyatt Earp.

The guy they had plying Curly Bill? What a shit actor. The guy they had playing Ike? Shit actor as well.

Kevin Costner saying “My names Wyatt Earp!” Yeah...I would’ve laughed at him too. There were a lot of things I liked about the movie but there were some real cheesy lines.
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There were a lot of good lines in W.E.

Judge: The next man that speaks out will be fined $25 contempt of court.
Curly Bill: Your Honor, $25 wouldn't pay for half the contempt I got for this court.
Judge: Bailiff, collect $50 from Curly Bill Brocius.

Jay
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 12:49:03 PM EST
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There were a lot of good lines in W.E.

Judge: The next man that speaks out will be fined $25 contempt of court.
Curly Bill: Your Honor, $25 wouldn't pay for half the contempt I got for this court.
Judge: Bailiff, collect $50 from Curly Bill Brocius.

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Yeah, that gem is on the tip of everyone’s tongue all right....
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 12:50:22 PM EST
[#17]
If you're just looking for a semi-biopic on Wyatt Earp, then "Wyatt Earp."

As far as colorful characters, action, memorable lines, then "Tombstone."

Plus,

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Link Posted: 9/22/2020 12:52:52 PM EST
[#18]
I think Tombstone is easier to watch, it just flows better and has a comedic aspect to keep it rolling. Wyatt Earp seemed to drag on and on. If I want to watch a western that is on forever then I’ll watch Lonesome Dove, which is a fantastic mini series/movie.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 12:55:18 PM EST
[#19]
Historical accuracy = Wyatt Earp

Badassery = Tombstone

My choice Tombstone...
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 1:01:06 PM EST
[#20]
Also, we can just get Young Guns and Young Guns II and call it a day.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 1:07:38 PM EST
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Did you see the size of that chicken?
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 1:10:57 PM EST
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Keven Costner pays himself by the hour.
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Michael Madsen, too. Meanwhile, you can't even compare Doc with Iceman or "Jim Morrison" or Chris the mutant elbow. They're 4 different characters completely.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 1:12:36 PM EST
[#23]
Dang it! Now I'll have to rewatch both!

Best Gun fight IMHO is in Open Range. Brutal!
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 1:12:52 PM EST
[#24]
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If you're just looking for a semi-biopic on Wyatt Earp, then "Wyatt Earp."

As far as colorful characters, action, memorable lines, then "Tombstone."

Plus,

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/6163/DanaDelaney_jpg-1602686.JPG
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I had such a crush on Dana Delaney that I even sat through that movie that had Rosie O'Donnell in S&M gear on screen.

It was worth it just to see Dana do full frontal nudity coming out of a swimming pool.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 1:13:02 PM EST
[#25]
I really like them both, but the first half hour of WE dragged on. I know the death of his wife greatly affected Wyatt Earp throughout his life, but damn, it made for boring cinema. Yeah, I'm a cold bastard, but get to the OK Corral shootout, already!

But of both movies, the scene in WE where Wyatt and Doc Holliday first meet is one of my favorites.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 1:55:55 PM EST
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Probably one of my top 5 remote droppers is Tombstone. Never saw the movie Wyatt Earp until tonight. To beat Tombstone to me is a tall order. I felt as if there was not as much detail to the bad guys in WE than in TS. I also feel as if WE could have been at least an hour shorter. Weird at how both movies got the story lines VERY close to each other. Morgan dying on the pool table, the train station scene in Tuscon

And what the hell is with John Behan being such a weasel? BOTH movies!

So which did you like better?
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Is this one of those special test that roots out who is a commie and who isn't?  

Wyatt Earp movie couldn't carry Tombstone's jock strap.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 1:56:54 PM EST
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OR.... Open Range.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 1:57:01 PM EST
[#28]
Tombstone and not the frozen pizza.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 1:59:52 PM EST
[#29]
Tombstone
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 2:24:44 PM EST
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"I'm your Huckleberry."

versus

"You may all kiss my Rebel dick!"
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A period correct statement would have been "Hucklebearer"... meaning "pall bearer".. or.."I'll carry your coffin".
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 6:38:02 PM EST
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I had such a crush on Dana Delaney that I even sat through that movie that had Rosie O'Donnell in S&M gear on screen.

It was worth it just to see Dana do full frontal nudity coming out of a swimming pool.
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If you're just looking for a semi-biopic on Wyatt Earp, then "Wyatt Earp."

As far as colorful characters, action, memorable lines, then "Tombstone."

Plus,

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/6163/DanaDelaney_jpg-1602686.JPG


I had such a crush on Dana Delaney that I even sat through that movie that had Rosie O'Donnell in S&M gear on screen.

It was worth it just to see Dana do full frontal nudity coming out of a swimming pool.


My crush started when she did a guest shot on the original "Magnum PI"

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Link Posted: 9/22/2020 6:45:01 PM EST
[#32]
Dana Delaney err Tombstone.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 6:46:25 PM EST
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Agree ...

Tombstone x100 for the Big Win.

'Why, Johnny Ringo, you look like somebody just walked over your grave."

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PsJFrwLl6HU

The only downside is:  Val Kilmer got robbed of what should've been a well-deserved Oscar.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 6:49:51 PM EST
[#34]
Tombstone has more flash. Wyatt Earp has more substance. I love both movies, but I prefer Wyatt Earp.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 6:51:15 PM EST
[#35]
Val Kilmer made Tombstone with his portrayal of Doc Holiday. Add in Kurt Russel, Bill Paxton, Sam Elliot, Stephen Lang, Powers Boothe, and the legendary Charlton Heston and it’s a masterpiece.

Wyatt Earp just seems to drag on.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 6:54:19 PM EST
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A period correct statement would have been "Hucklebearer"... meaning "pall bearer".. or.."I'll carry your coffin".
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"I'm your Huckleberry."

versus

"You may all kiss my Rebel dick!"


A period correct statement would have been "Hucklebearer"... meaning "pall bearer".. or.."I'll carry your coffin".

No. It’s huckleberry. Please eradicate this misinformation from the internet.

Thank you.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 6:56:42 PM EST
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Did you see the size of that chicken?
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Also, we can just get Young Guns and Young Guns II and call it a day.

Did you see the size of that chicken?
Hey, Chavez, how come they ain't killing us?

"Because we're in the spirit world, asshole. They can't see us.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 7:04:33 PM EST
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Val Kilmer made Tombstone with his portrayal of Doc Holiday. Add in Kurt Russel, Bill Paxton, Sam Elliot, Stephen Lang, and Powers Boothe and it’s a masterpiece.

Wyatt Earp just seems to drag on.
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Link Posted: 9/22/2020 7:07:14 PM EST
[#39]
This is like Armageddon vs Deep Impact. While Tombstone/Wyatt Earp were released a little further apart, they were still too close together. Deep Impact is a good movie, but Armageddon is better in almost every way. Had there been 2 years between the two Deep Impact would have been remembered as a much better movie.

I feel the same way about Tombstone and Wyatt Earp. Wyatt Earp was good, but Tombstone is better in almost every way.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 7:08:25 PM EST
[#40]
Tombstone, and it’s not even close.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 7:25:08 PM EST
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Michael Madsen, too. Meanwhile, you can't even compare Doc with Iceman or "Jim Morrison" or Chris the mutant elbow. They're 4 different characters completely.
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Don't forget Nick Rivers.  

Link Posted: 9/22/2020 7:27:34 PM EST
[#42]
Wyatt Earp is WAY better.

Tombstone is a good movie but anyone who prefers it over Wyatt Earp is an ADD addled simpleton who thinks Bad Boys is high art.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 7:41:13 PM EST
[#43]
Gunfight at OK Corral with Kirk Douglas and Burt Lancaster was pretty damn good.  Especially Douglas as Doc.

Tombstone was the better movie of the two choices offered, I thought.  No GD fans of Big Nose Kate?
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 7:42:50 PM EST
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Val Kilmer made Tombstone a great movie. The remake of True Grit with Jeff Bridges is right up there with it IMO.
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And I like Powers Booth.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 7:56:24 PM EST
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This is like Armageddon vs Deep Impact.
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First thing I thought of. Deep Impact was more serious in tone and Wyatt Earp may be more in-depth and historically accurate(except for the costumes) but there's a reason I've seen Armageddon and Tombstone way more times.
Edit: Apparently it's because I'm an ADD-addled simpleton.

Speaking of costumes, here's something I found the last time I watched it: https://truewestmagazine.com/tombstone-right-look/
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 7:58:02 PM EST
[#46]
I can't speak to historical accuracy, but Tombstone entertained me much more.
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 8:00:46 PM EST
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How is this even a question?

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This x 1000
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 8:08:13 PM EST
[#48]
Both really entertaining, but val kilmer makes tombstone
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 8:14:14 PM EST
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Quaid's Doc was the only thing about W.E. that I did not care for.
Was kind of pulling for B.N.K. when she fired the revolver.

They're both good movies, one is about a small part of W.E.'s life, and the other, much more detailed.
The scene in W.E. where Wyatt explains to the wives why they don't rate as high as the brothers, and the end scene, when Earp and Josie are on the ship,,,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acpi2hwHadU

I do prefer Wyatt Earp.

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I've read several books on the earp's and doc holiday and I suspect quaids doc holiday is actually close to reality. The way he's described is educated, but arrogant and kind of a prick.  Kilmer did a great job but he was pretty likeable.   Not many people liked actual doc holiday
Link Posted: 9/22/2020 8:22:47 PM EST
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Tombstone.
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