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Link Posted: 7/5/2022 9:24:47 AM EDT
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That makes sense.

Sounds like he barely knew him years ago.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 9:28:06 AM EDT
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https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/155072/Screen_Shot_2022-07-05_at_9_11_29_AM_png-2442313.JPGThis is how we KNOW the shooter was a leftist sympathizer.  



This is NPR front page right now.

Tell me they don't have an agenda.

The shooter was a leftist whacko nutjob and they are going to cover for him so they don't have to talk about why leftists are shooting and killing normal US citizens.
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Good example.

Yahoo news and most other sources are the same way.  They drop the story like a hot potato and move on to the next big news event but the damage from the brainwashing headlines has already taken effect.

Link Posted: 7/5/2022 9:28:58 AM EDT
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Dailymail article claims shooter was known by law enforcement,  but doesn’t provide any other information
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 9:33:16 AM EDT
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And? Your reply has nothing to do with the context of what I posted.

"The neighbor is Jewish, to it was okay for him to say that." That is some woke feelz liberal bullshit. It doesn't matter if the neighbor was Jewish or not. It's okay for ANYONE to make an observation like that.
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It's a free country, bub. Anyone is free to make an observation.

Most people cut their grass on Saturday. A lot of Jews don’t do any kind of works 9n Saturday, so they hire someone else to do it. As a kid I lived in a neighborhood with a lot of Jews and cut their grass for them.

And? Your reply has nothing to do with the context of what I posted.

"The neighbor is Jewish, to it was okay for him to say that." That is some woke feelz liberal bullshit. It doesn't matter if the neighbor was Jewish or not. It's okay for ANYONE to make an observation like that.

Dude, loosen you panties a twist or two. There are a lot of people who don’t know that there are religious prohibitions to working on Saturday so they hire out the work. It is no big deal and it isn’t a slight against anyone who makes that observation. It is just a fact.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 9:34:04 AM EDT
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Sounds like he barely knew him years ago.
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That makes sense.

Sounds like he barely knew him years ago.


Yeah, and back when he was like 15 and everyone was weird in some way.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 9:37:52 AM EDT
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That one lady could hear the guy reloading…. Really?

From a rooftop?

While paniced people were running by or around her?

I’m calling bullshit.

Sets up a narrative for guns to NOT be (box magazine) reloadable.

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Link Posted: 7/5/2022 9:39:33 AM EDT
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Highland Park shooter's uncle says he was a loner who was 'acting normal' at home the night before massacre despite his sinister rap videos and drawings: Lost his Panera Bread job in pandemic and was living alone in apartment behind parents' house






The location where the shooter was holed up is thought to be on top of Gearheads, an outdoor equipment store. A ladder can be seen propped against its wall in this image taken after the shooting




A close-up shows the ladder propped against the wall of the single-story Gearheads store. It has been suggested that this is where shooter Bobby Crimo opened fire from, although investigators have yet to confirm that this was the ladder he used


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Link Posted: 7/5/2022 9:41:02 AM EDT
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Funny how the news articles online are blasting his picture of him wrapped in the Trump flag and none of his other crazy pics
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I think the Daily Fail was just regurgitating the US newsfeeds...
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 9:43:21 AM EDT
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That one lady could hear the guy reloading…. Really?

From a rooftop?

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I’m calling bullshit.

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As if gun owners in Illinois weren't all ready being treated like criminals. Springfield is about to go in dry. I expect mag limits and a lot of evil features to be made illegal.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 9:44:08 AM EDT
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Nightmare would have been a more choice word. I'm not gonna fault him on that. The other shit about never talking with someone you live with is odd. Also why is the uncle living with the son? Not a bad thing in itself, but there are a lot of things adding up that don't seem right.
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Dude distanced himself from the videos hella quick claiming he has never seen them.

Also mentions that this is "like a dream" to him.

Likely the two angles I'd look into first on the investigation.

Dude is definitely rattled, but it also seems a guilty conscience is in play here.
Nightmare would have been a more choice word. I'm not gonna fault him on that. The other shit about never talking with someone you live with is odd. Also why is the uncle living with the son? Not a bad thing in itself, but there are a lot of things adding up that don't seem right.


Nutjob's grandfather owned the house, then died, leaving it to the family.  The family divided the house up, with each having their own rooms.

I don't know the inheritance laws of that area, but I have known of families where the property owner died, and the family didn't bother to go through the legal process of settling the estate, at least partly due to the cost of doing the paperwork.  They leave the deed in the name of the dead person, and the local government seems fine with that as long as somebody pays the property taxes, each year.  Use of the property gets divided up, and I have seen more than one example of the family treating a family member moving away as giving up their claim to the property.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 9:45:37 AM EDT
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From the looks of it, he might not pass competency hearings.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 9:45:59 AM EDT
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Still don't know the weapon used?
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 9:47:50 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/5/2022 9:49:32 AM EDT
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The dude literally has the Democratic Socialists of America symbol tattooed on his neck.




Link Posted: 7/5/2022 9:50:24 AM EDT
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Am I right in thinking that despite being 'known to law enforcement', without being a felon, or any formal diagnosis of a mental health condition that might show a person to be a danger to themselves or others, there is nothing to stop a person from buying a gun. So even if his weird notions were known, they alone are not enough to prevent him from buying a gun through a dealer. Of course, he can buy guns privately anyway?
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I don’t have a gun shop, but I’d forgo the sale for someone looking like this loon or some dude dressed as a woman.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 9:52:03 AM EDT
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The left is here doing that very thing. They pose as “principled conservatives.”  

It is an Alinsky tactic to make us play by our own rules while they cheat. I am not playing that game anymore.
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I believe in 2A but....

I voted for Trump twice but....

J6 was an insurection....

There was no election fraud....

Link Posted: 7/5/2022 9:58:23 AM EDT
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I’ve seen the rose part in a couple of pics but are there any others that show the whole tattoo?
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Not if the media can help it................
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 9:58:56 AM EDT
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I am beginning to see a trend here:

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That’s Aurora theater shooter James Holmes.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 10:01:20 AM EDT
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This. Reading the tweet chain from someone who personally knows the guy shows this even more.

Kid posts evidence he knows the guy and just said he went nuts yet a bunch of people reposting all the photos challenging him saying they don’t believe him.

We really are a bunch of brain washed idiots
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Our country is fucked.  From the moment this shooting happened, it has been nothing but "both sides" trying to associate this guy with the other side.  It's sad to watch.   It's kind of pathetic that this is what we've devolved into.



This. Reading the tweet chain from someone who personally knows the guy shows this even more.

Kid posts evidence he knows the guy and just said he went nuts yet a bunch of people reposting all the photos challenging him saying they don’t believe him.

We really are a bunch of brain washed idiots

You don't look like that, and have all of those weird fucking pictures by " just going nuts".

That's like the lady who takes her car to the mechanic and says ,"It just started making this noise" only to find the rotors worn through to the fins.

No, he was fucking nuts for a while and the pics indicate leftist loony kind of nuts.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 10:14:20 AM EDT
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The rose tattoo seems to wrap all the way around the back side of his neck.  Not really consistent with DSA stylizations.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 10:18:29 AM EDT
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If the creep was living in Highwood where his father lives, he would have been in illegal possession, too.  Assault rifles and standard cap mags are banned there.  We know from the audio it was a standard cap mag.

https://codelibrary.amlegal.com/codes/highwoodil/latest/highwood_il/0-0-0-4046
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 10:19:13 AM EDT
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I am beginning to see a trend here:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369122/3A7390BA-FBD9-4038-B980-8530F26D6F38_jpe-2442342.JPG

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Holmes I’m not sure about. Previously someone said “Lanza eyes” and I don’t see that comparison. In the Lanza photos he looks broken and angry at being photographed. In this nutter’s case he looks like he’s making a stupid face to screw with you.

Both crazy, sure, but different kind of crazy.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 10:20:09 AM EDT
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You likely paid for the rifle

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You’re thinking of Kyle rittenhouse.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 10:21:42 AM EDT
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Yeah, and back when he was like 15 and everyone was weird in some way.
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That makes sense.

Sounds like he barely knew him years ago.


Yeah, and back when he was like 15 and everyone was weird in some way.
There’s weird and there’s “this kid will wind up in jail”, and that’s pretty well set by 15.

I’m inclined to believe Occam’s razor says “asshole” before “deliberate right or left-wing terror attack”. Glad they got him alive, hopefully he’ll ramble like the NY kid and tell us.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 10:22:34 AM EDT
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Honestly this is what I'm leaning to, based on the media he created, the age, his family, and his appearance in his social media. Mom appears to have some issues, and mental illness has a genetic component.

Sometimes the answer really is as simple as "bitch be cray", as disappointingly blunt as that is.
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It's almost always that the person is a loon, yet both the left mob and the right mob end up having girl fights on Twitter over political motivations.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 10:26:03 AM EDT
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The rose is on the left side of his neck and the stem wraps around to the right. The fist is not included but I agree that looks pretty much like a tat for Democratic socialists of america.

Everyone keeps asking why we need to know party affiliation...It's not party affiliation, it knowing the motive and the roots, motivations. It helps inform the public about the true nature of violence and who commits it. And it is something that the the press (the left) constantly attempts to blame on the right.

Luckily we have alternate media that helps to uncover the truth so they can't hide it when the subway shooter turns out to be a black supremist who wanted to kill non-blacks. Or the black nationalist that wanted to mow down 6 people in wakeusha at a parade. Wondering when someone is going to point out that Highland Park is a suburb of Chicago and no one seems to care about the all the black people that were shot in the city this weekend but want to focus only on these white people that got shot.

I'll take dangerous freedom over "safe" tyranny any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 10:31:47 AM EDT
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If the creep was living in Highwood where his father lives, he would have been in illegal possession, too.  Assault rifles and standard cap mags are banned there.  We know from the audio it was a standard cap mag.

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For clarification.

He lived in Highwood with his Uncle, parents live in Highland Park.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 10:35:55 AM EDT
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I don't have a gun shop, but I'd forgo the sale for someone looking like this loon or some dude dressed as a woman.
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You might, I might. Someone didn't...
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 10:45:02 AM EDT
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I am beginning to see a trend here:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/369122/3A7390BA-FBD9-4038-B980-8530F26D6F38_jpe-2442342.JPG

That’s Aurora theater shooter James Holmes.
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Link Posted: 7/5/2022 10:45:27 AM EDT
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I believe in 2A but....

I voted for Trump twice but....

J6 was an insurection....

There was no election fraud....

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So I guess faking a water line brake so you can count ballots hidden under tables without supervision is normal to you? How about the fact that 5 or 6 Democrats have been charged in the last month with voter fraud or the fact that state's violated their own constitution on voting laws?
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 10:49:42 AM EDT
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It's gun violence.

Nothing else could it be.

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They already have gun control. Only rich people and criminals have them.

Pulling down all information off his internet profile so the story can be manipulated into a call for a ban on regular folks having guns. Heard it all before.

Same loser profile different shooting. Democrat, lost soul, mental illness(sure), poor parenting, masterbated in his room instead of talking to people

Same police response….too little, too late. The police have lots of guns, but their never at the fight.

Honestly, this makes me wonder…I keep downsizing my ccw. Should I be looking upsizing!

Link Posted: 7/5/2022 10:53:50 AM EDT
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Thanks. I know you have Federal and state law, but someone willing to do this could easily buy legally out of state and bring them back? What I'm really thinking is that 'known to law enforcement' is just media hysteria spin and really means nothing at all?
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No. You cannot private sale out of state if you have a foid. All guns must go through an ffl.
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This gentleman states he knows the shooter. He’s a great follow on Twitter. He is a conservative Jewish pediatrician and claims to be from the area. Based on his tweets I believe he is legit
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I've followed Joe for years. He's a pediatrician and retired Naval Aviator. Good solid guy and black rifle enthusiast.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 10:55:19 AM EDT
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The rose is on the left side of his neck and the stem wraps around to the right. The fist is not included but I agree that looks pretty much like a tat for Democratic socialists of america.

Everyone keeps asking why we need to know party affiliation...It's not party affiliation, it knowing the motive and the roots, motivations. It helps inform the public about the true nature of violence and who commits it. And it is something that the the press (the left) constantly attempts to blame on the right.

Luckily we have alternate media that helps to uncover the truth so they can't hide it when the subway shooter turns out to be a black supremist who wanted to kill non-blacks. Or the black nationalist that wanted to mow down 6 people in wakeusha at a parade. Wondering when someone is going to point out that Highland Park is a suburb of Chicago and no one seems to care about the all the black people that were shot in the city this weekend but want to focus only on these white people that got shot.

I'll take dangerous freedom over "safe" tyranny any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
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I’ve seen the rose part in a couple of pics but are there any others that show the whole tattoo?



The rose is on the left side of his neck and the stem wraps around to the right. The fist is not included but I agree that looks pretty much like a tat for Democratic socialists of america.

Everyone keeps asking why we need to know party affiliation...It's not party affiliation, it knowing the motive and the roots, motivations. It helps inform the public about the true nature of violence and who commits it. And it is something that the the press (the left) constantly attempts to blame on the right.

Luckily we have alternate media that helps to uncover the truth so they can't hide it when the subway shooter turns out to be a black supremist who wanted to kill non-blacks. Or the black nationalist that wanted to mow down 6 people in wakeusha at a parade. Wondering when someone is going to point out that Highland Park is a suburb of Chicago and no one seems to care about the all the black people that were shot in the city this weekend but want to focus only on these white people that got shot.

I'll take dangerous freedom over "safe" tyranny any day of the week and twice on Sunday.



Here’s where my previous point was missed.

Let’s agree that dude was a rabid lefty. All news articles say it. What is the expected outcome?

Nothing at this point realistically because each side has chosen their side and any slight against it will be necessary for the cause.

That was my point- we are fucked because it’s so about sides reality won’t matter anymore
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So I guess faking a water line brake so you can count ballots hidden under tables without supervision is normal to you? How about the fact that 5 or 6 Democrats have been charged in the last month with voter fraud or the fact that state's violated their own constitution on voting laws?
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I believe in 2A but....

I voted for Trump twice but....

J6 was an insurection....

There was no election fraud....


So I guess faking a water line brake so you can count ballots hidden under tables without supervision is normal to you? How about the fact that 5 or 6 Democrats have been charged in the last month with voter fraud or the fact that state's violated their own constitution on voting laws?


He was being sarcastic.
Link Posted: 7/5/2022 10:55:40 AM EDT
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Every news agency seems to be reporting the gun as being "legally acquired", and many online outlets reporting people that knew him call him a "stoner".

If he is a pothead, the weapon was not legally obtained.  He lied on the 4473.

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Here’s where my previous point was missed.

Let’s agree that dude was a rabid lefty. All news articles say it. What is the expected outcome?

Nothing at this point realistically because each side has chosen their side and any slight against it will be necessary for the cause.

That was my point- we are fucked because it’s so about sides reality won’t matter anymore
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I’ve seen the rose part in a couple of pics but are there any others that show the whole tattoo?



The rose is on the left side of his neck and the stem wraps around to the right. The fist is not included but I agree that looks pretty much like a tat for Democratic socialists of america.

Everyone keeps asking why we need to know party affiliation...It's not party affiliation, it knowing the motive and the roots, motivations. It helps inform the public about the true nature of violence and who commits it. And it is something that the the press (the left) constantly attempts to blame on the right.

Luckily we have alternate media that helps to uncover the truth so they can't hide it when the subway shooter turns out to be a black supremist who wanted to kill non-blacks. Or the black nationalist that wanted to mow down 6 people in wakeusha at a parade. Wondering when someone is going to point out that Highland Park is a suburb of Chicago and no one seems to care about the all the black people that were shot in the city this weekend but want to focus only on these white people that got shot.

I'll take dangerous freedom over "safe" tyranny any day of the week and twice on Sunday.



Here’s where my previous point was missed.

Let’s agree that dude was a rabid lefty. All news articles say it. What is the expected outcome?

Nothing at this point realistically because each side has chosen their side and any slight against it will be necessary for the cause.

That was my point- we are fucked because it’s so about sides reality won’t matter anymore


We are in a culture war in a country that theoretically democratically elects leaders. This stuff matters.
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Not much, the mother is into symbology as well.

Just weird.

https://c.tenor.com/pIpPTE7A3DoAAAAC/boondock-saints-boondock.gif

Lol thank you. A proper response.
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Maybe he’s related to the Bidens. I don’t think that law applies to them.
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And Spotify removed all wackados music even though I downloaded it to my account
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I was going with brightly colored hair.

Which is what I like to call:

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I think everyone who remembers the media coverage of the Aurora theater shooting / shooter , remembers that James Holmes looked like he was doped up real good for his courtroom appearance.
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We need to bring back burning fuckers at the stake instead of making them comfortable and a trip to Burger King.
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Agreed.
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$100,000 over several years of making music isn't very much money in the big scheme of things, especially if you consider that his "main job".  Still enough to buy a shit car and some guns.  I don't get the "where are they getting the money" part of this argument.  I was buying WW2 rifles in college with great regularity with part time jobs.
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God Dayum,

Y'all cry about the Media not understanding the difference between a Glock and a Hi-Point or a AR-15 and an M-16... But y'all say'n stupid shit like this.


1. He's a 22 year old MAN. He's been an adult for 5 years.  I had buddies who signed up, stacked bodies and got married with a kid by the time they were 22.

I graduated, got a corporate job and bought a house by 23.

2. Guns are cheap. You all SHOULD know that. It's EASY to make $30-40k a year legally and I'd your parents are paying your rent you will be flush in spending cash.

3. Making a music video is cheap. Making tracks is cheap. Some pirates software on a $1k laptop and another $500-$1k in audio equipment - easy. Used HDR Camera, $300 - easy. As mentioned, that school room is rentable at $100/hr. He could have rented that camera man for $100/hr as well.

4. Making $100k as a garbage tier unknown rapper is "easy". Get a few thousand people to pay $1/download, get a few followers that subscribe for $5/m, etc.

5. Making violent media or art isn't exactly a "red flag". Alex Baldwin and Kate Jenner have killed more people then Marilyn Manson....

$100,000 over several years of making music isn't very much money in the big scheme of things, especially if you consider that his "main job".  Still enough to buy a shit car and some guns.  I don't get the "where are they getting the money" part of this argument.  I was buying WW2 rifles in college with great regularity with part time jobs.




Yeah.  That didn't make any sense with the last school shooter and it doesn't make any sense now.

The money to get a car and some guns is easy especially if you still live with parents and don't really have any bills to pay.
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Every news agency seems to be reporting the gun as being "legally acquired", and many online outlets reporting people that knew him call him a "stoner".

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May have lied on a form? Shocking..
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This guy doesn't seem like the type to make 100K and not buy a nicer vehicle than that piece of shit he was driving.

I'd be willing to bet this 100k dollar figure is false. He doesn't even have many songs or videos...

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100k over four years and having spending money for food, 'stuff' and probably a decent amount of weed.  It's not surprising.
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