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Posted: 3/19/2022 1:15:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not sure what this means, but I am going to continue to discriminate against hair I don't like. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 1:23:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If it passes you can't prohibit employees from having dreadlocks (racist word) Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm not sure what this means, but I am going to continue to discriminate against hair I don't like. Sue you can. As long as they’re not also black. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 1:23:30 AM EDT
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And just how much money did they spend on that bull shit.
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Posted: 3/19/2022 1:33:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And just how much money did they spend on that bull shit. All of it. 
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Posted: 3/19/2022 1:42:56 AM EDT
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That will be impossible to enforce.
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Posted: 3/19/2022 1:44:44 AM EDT
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YES. I'm finally gonna get a JOB!
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Posted: 3/19/2022 2:50:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Over the years I have seen some schools not allow braid rows , dreds, claiming they are gang hairdos or something. Which is nonsense. It's just a low maintenance hairstyle for black people. Schools are constantly doing retarded stuff because they are run by democrats. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 2:58:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you haven't at the very least seen Chris Rock's documentary 'Good Hair', your opinion here is invalid. I saw it and this law is retarded. I don't believe anyone in 2022 America is discriminating against black hair, except retards who get smacked down when they are called out. This law is another example of black privilege. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 3:00:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/19/2022 3:06:48 AM EDT
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Does this mean .mil can do whatever with their hair now?
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Posted: 3/19/2022 3:37:33 AM EDT
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I feel discriminated against because of this post! Do I get a Bill??? Just curious though? Does this bill cover back hair, ass hair, arm pit hair,pubic hairs, nose hairs, hairy ears and leg hair's????
 Think of the fun Lawyers can get out of this! I think I mite grow a pubic hair beard so I can proudly display it ever where I go in public!
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Posted: 3/19/2022 4:01:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOMG you FOUND CORN POP!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 4:07:05 AM EDT
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I'm sure the group that is supposed to benefit from this will thrive and prosper now.
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Posted: 3/19/2022 4:12:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Over the years I have seen some schools not allow braid rows , dreds, claiming they are gang hairdos or something. Which is nonsense. It's just a low maintenance hairstyle for black people. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Example? Depends on what they wear, gang affiliation is often indicated in things as simple as the color of the beads in the hair. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 4:50:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw it and this law is retarded. I don't believe anyone in 2022 America is discriminating against black hair, except retards who get smacked down when they are called out. This law is another example of black privilege. My wife's boss does. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 4:57:00 AM EDT
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y'all looking at this wrong
if it passes, find some wypipo hairstyles and nobody can say shit You just gotta take it back Does your job require short, neat hair? No more. Grow it long like wypipo did in the middle ages and claim its an ancestral design. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 5:15:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: y'all looking at this wrong if it passes, find some wypipo hairstyles and nobody can say shit You just gotta take it back Does your job require short, neat hair? No more. Grow it long like wypipo did in the middle ages and claim its an ancestral design.
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Posted: 3/19/2022 5:55:18 AM EDT
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So the same people that came up with man spreading are making it illegal to ban hair spreading.
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Posted: 3/19/2022 5:56:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm claiming a Viking heritage. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: y'all looking at this wrong if it passes, find some wypipo hairstyles and nobody can say shit You just gotta take it back Does your job require short, neat hair? No more. Grow it long like wypipo did in the middle ages and claim its an ancestral design. Spot on. Or, a mohawk is ancient Irish. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohawk_hairstyle "The hairstyle has been in existence in many parts of the world for millennia. For instance, the Clonycavan Man, a 2000-year-old male bog body discovered near Dublin in 2003, was found to be wearing a mohawk styled with plant oil and pine resin.[5] Herodotus claimed that the Macai, a northern Libyan tribe, "shave their hair so as to leave tufts, letting the middle of their hair grow long, but round this on all sides shaving it close to the skin." |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 5:57:47 AM EDT
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I can no longer be discriminated against for having a mullet. Finally!
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:47:43 AM EDT
[#21]
I feel so safe now.
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Posted: 3/19/2022 7:50:34 AM EDT
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Clearly their is a real issue under the surface some black people are running into. But you just know this will be abused heavily by shit bags. In the end it will just be more reason to not hire people that come with a suitcase full of booby traps for your business.
Shit bags ruin everything for everyone. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 7:58:39 AM EDT
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This means I can show up to a corporate job interview with a full blown 80's punk mohawk in bright pink and they can't judge me for it? Cool.
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Posted: 3/19/2022 8:05:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some examples of hair discrimination that have happened listed here: https://www.americanbar.org/groups/business_law/publications/blt/2020/05/hair-discrimination/
Those are all examples from schools, public schools should not be making hair style rules. Private businesses that want to discriminate against hair styles, you're not getting any sympathy from me. The thing is no one supports a system that is contrary to their interests. Having a large percentage of the population having to put up with unreasonable hair style rules does not make for a healthy society. Your desire to control others hair styles ridiculous. Why should blacks have to conform to your rules? How would you like it if blacks were in the majority and made up rules that you had to have dreadlocks or corn rows? Not so reasonable is it now? Those are terrible examples as neither braids nor dreadlocks are exclusive to, nor a natural result of having African ancestry. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 8:05:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Right in the middle of my footlong. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Does this mean that restaurants cannot discriminate against white people with dreadlocks when hiring food prep employees? I refuse to let those folks make my food. You have to be a seriously dirty MFer to develop dreads when you're not black. Damn show me where the white guy with dreads touched you. Right in the middle of my footlong. Damn sorry bro  |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 8:06:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like folks can’t make fun of me for going bald anymore  Wanna bet marble head? |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 8:25:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I seriously doubt there's anyone here that has shared a bed with a black woman. The bullshit they deal with is definitely worth addressing. The very nature of their hair means that typically white styles aren't feasible without literally burning their scalp with chemicals, or spending ridiculous money to have poor Indian people's hair woven onto their heads. My ex got her masters, started a job, and was dragged into her boss' office to talk about her hair. Nothing crazy like a fro, and was professional looking twists with a similar profile to an up-do of straight hair, but her boss tried to demand that she straightened her hair to make it less "ethnic". HR put her in her fucking place real quick. If you haven't at the very least seen Chris Rock's documentary 'Good Hair', your opinion here is invalid. So in your example, the company handled itself. You make an extremely poor argument for any sort of legislation being required. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 8:40:27 AM EDT
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Lately, I wake up and wonder what fucking nonsense the Clown World is gonna throw at me today...
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Posted: 3/19/2022 10:00:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The real issue. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why should blacks have to conform to your rules? The real issue. How would you like it if blacks were in the majority and made up rules that you had to have dreadlocks or corn rows? As long as it's kept neat and clean and doesn't interfere with the job why the hell do you care what their hair looks like? Rhetorical question because I know the answer is "my business my rules". You don't need that level of control over employees to run your business. Because you're a control freak, just admit it. Laws should be kept to a minimum and limited scope. Even this new law, if passed, should have a very light touch, but we all know Congress will write some piece of garbage sledgehammer that will eventually be ruled unconstitutional. How many of you opposed to this law, or the basic principle if not the exact wording, also oppose laws saying businesses cannot discriminate on the basis of race? Come on, be loud and proud, show your racism. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 10:14:18 AM EDT
[#30]
Finally I can get those corn rows I've always wanted.
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Posted: 3/19/2022 10:15:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This means I can show up to a corporate job interview with a full blown 80's punk mohawk in bright pink and they can't judge me for it? Cool. Will this affect military and government jobs? I just can't wait till the police show up with outrageous hair styles. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 10:26:24 AM EDT
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this immediately came to mind
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Posted: 3/19/2022 10:34:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those are terrible examples as neither braids nor dreadlocks are exclusive to, nor a natural result of having African ancestry. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Some examples of hair discrimination that have happened listed here: https://www.americanbar.org/groups/business_law/publications/blt/2020/05/hair-discrimination/
Those are all examples from schools, public schools should not be making hair style rules. Private businesses that want to discriminate against hair styles, you're not getting any sympathy from me. The thing is no one supports a system that is contrary to their interests. Having a large percentage of the population having to put up with unreasonable hair style rules does not make for a healthy society. Your desire to control others hair styles ridiculous. Why should blacks have to conform to your rules? How would you like it if blacks were in the majority and made up rules that you had to have dreadlocks or corn rows? Not so reasonable is it now? Those are terrible examples as neither braids nor dreadlocks are exclusive to, nor a natural result of having African ancestry. Apologies if anyone has already mentioned this, but the one that bugs me from that list (that I’ve also specifically cited on the floor in Congress) is the wrestler that was “made to cut his dreadlocks by a white ref” He had the choice to cut his hair shorter, or wear a hair cover, like every other wrestler in the country at the time had to do if their hair was too long. My son wrestled with long hair and had to follow the same rules (along with a teammate of his that had dreads)- either cover it or don’t wrestle. The idea that a white ref made him cut it because of racism or how he kept is hair is ridiculous. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 10:37:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote Historymmmm I can smell the patchouli from here. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 10:45:07 AM EDT
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Maybe this will be the next round of legislative protections
How it starts: How it will be: Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 11:19:16 AM EDT
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Gentlemen, ladies, a moment of silence if you will.
We stand together today in this somber moment of reflection, united in purpose, to honor those without hair. Yet again this marginalized community has been ignored. Yet again our shameful history of hair privilege has reared its ugly head. Surely there is a place in this outrage for our brave bald brothers and sisters, who can not know the simple joys of cornrows, extensions, or sunny days without hats. Let us embrace everyone with a head -- large, small, shiny, or pointed -- regardless of hair color or curls or snappy highlights. Let us make room for them, and for their strange and sad shiny heads, and may we walk hand in hand, together, toward our bright shared hatred of everything that is. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 11:24:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Like I said: As long as it's kept neat and clean and doesn't interfere with the job why the hell do you care what their hair looks like? Rhetorical question because I know the answer is "my business my rules". You don't need that level of control over employees to run your business. Because you're a control freak, just admit it. Laws should be kept to a minimum and limited scope. Even this new law, if passed, should have a very light touch, but we all know Congress will write some piece of garbage sledgehammer that will eventually be ruled unconstitutional. How many of you opposed to this law, or the basic principle if not the exact wording, also oppose laws saying businesses cannot discriminate on the basis of race? Come on, be loud and proud, show your racism. Is it racist if I oppose the ADA and Title IX at the same time? Is it racist to want to be free even if it means that mean people and stupid people are also free? I am against giving up ANY rights or freedom even the kind likely to be misused. I am against it even when I see it might be used to my personal advantage. If a person chooses to make themselves less employable because of face tattoos, piercings or body mods, do you need your own law so that people will have to hire you or to continue to employ you should you aquire such things? You need the federal government to protect people from the consequences of their choices? The freedom to style ones hair (grown or purchased) is already yours. Freedom does not exist divorced from responsibility and consequences. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 11:32:28 AM EDT
[#38]
Next hurdle will be dress.
Can’t discriminate against the dashiki. Or bare feet |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 11:42:03 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If it passes you can't prohibit employees from having dreadlocks (racist word) From reading the language in the law you can’t for people who claim it is associated with their racial heritage (black people). But a white person might have quite a hurdle claiming that, unless of course they “identify” as black like Rachael Dolezal. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 11:47:23 AM EDT
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"Tyrone, we have decided to go with a different applicant because of your hair. Good luck with your job search." - No company ever said.
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Posted: 3/19/2022 11:51:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For fuck's sake. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 5:15:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Like I said: As long as it's kept neat and clean and doesn't interfere with the job why the hell do you care what their hair looks like? Rhetorical question because I know the answer is "my business my rules". You don't need that level of control over employees to run your business. Because you're a control freak, just admit it. Laws should be kept to a minimum and limited scope. Even this new law, if passed, should have a very light touch, but we all know Congress will write some piece of garbage sledgehammer that will eventually be ruled unconstitutional. How many of you opposed to this law, or the basic principle if not the exact wording, also oppose laws saying businesses cannot discriminate on the basis of race? Come on, be loud and proud, show your racism. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why should blacks have to conform to your rules? The real issue. How would you like it if blacks were in the majority and made up rules that you had to have dreadlocks or corn rows? As long as it's kept neat and clean and doesn't interfere with the job why the hell do you care what their hair looks like? Rhetorical question because I know the answer is "my business my rules". You don't need that level of control over employees to run your business. Because you're a control freak, just admit it. Laws should be kept to a minimum and limited scope. Even this new law, if passed, should have a very light touch, but we all know Congress will write some piece of garbage sledgehammer that will eventually be ruled unconstitutional. How many of you opposed to this law, or the basic principle if not the exact wording, also oppose laws saying businesses cannot discriminate on the basis of race? Come on, be loud and proud, show your racism. I oppose any federal legislation of the sort. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 5:18:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is it racist if I oppose the ADA and Title IX at the same time? Is it racist to want to be free even if it means that mean people and stupid people are also free? I am against giving up ANY rights or freedom even the kind likely to be misused. I am against it even when I see it might be used to my personal advantage. If a person chooses to make themselves less employable because of face tattoos, piercings or body mods, do you need your own law so that people will have to hire you or to continue to employ you should you aquire such things? You need the federal government to protect people from the consequences of their choices? The freedom to style ones hair (grown or purchased) is already yours. Freedom does not exist divorced from responsibility and consequences. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Like I said: As long as it's kept neat and clean and doesn't interfere with the job why the hell do you care what their hair looks like? Rhetorical question because I know the answer is "my business my rules". You don't need that level of control over employees to run your business. Because you're a control freak, just admit it. Laws should be kept to a minimum and limited scope. Even this new law, if passed, should have a very light touch, but we all know Congress will write some piece of garbage sledgehammer that will eventually be ruled unconstitutional. How many of you opposed to this law, or the basic principle if not the exact wording, also oppose laws saying businesses cannot discriminate on the basis of race? Come on, be loud and proud, show your racism. Is it racist if I oppose the ADA and Title IX at the same time? Is it racist to want to be free even if it means that mean people and stupid people are also free? I am against giving up ANY rights or freedom even the kind likely to be misused. I am against it even when I see it might be used to my personal advantage. If a person chooses to make themselves less employable because of face tattoos, piercings or body mods, do you need your own law so that people will have to hire you or to continue to employ you should you aquire such things? You need the federal government to protect people from the consequences of their choices? The freedom to style ones hair (grown or purchased) is already yours. Freedom does not exist divorced from responsibility and consequences. Bingo. |
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Posted: 3/19/2022 6:38:29 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not saying that your particular example isn't a valid grievance for discrimination, but there are tons of hairstyles that would be considered unprofessional in a business environment where you have to meet with other business people. Said unprofessional hairstyles are not imited to certain races. Like it or not, appearances matter. I would not expect to be taken seriously if I rocked a skullet, long spikes, had designs shaved into my head, a giant mohawk, etc etc. We have a temp at work right now that is wearing basketball shorts and his giant gut is hanging out from under his T-Shirt. He's not black and he's not my subordinate, but I care how he looks because he will need to deal with a client or company partnering with us at times and nearly needed to today. He does look like a giant disgusting slob however, and that's not ok. You don't get to just claim racism every time an employer takes exception to your appearance just because said appearance related attribute is more commonly associated with your race. An employer should be able to choose the image they want to portray to the world. Let their clients decide if they don't like that that people look too boring and if the employees want lax grooming and appearance standards, they can go elsewhere. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I seriously doubt there's anyone here that has shared a bed with a black woman. The bullshit they deal with is definitely worth addressing. The very nature of their hair means that typically white styles aren't feasible without literally burning their scalp with chemicals, or spending ridiculous money to have poor Indian people's hair woven onto their heads. My ex got her masters, started a job, and was dragged into her boss' office to talk about her hair. Nothing crazy like a fro, and was professional looking twists with a similar profile to an up-do of straight hair, but her boss tried to demand that she straightened her hair to make it less "ethnic". HR put her in her fucking place real quick. If you haven't at the very least seen Chris Rock's documentary 'Good Hair', your opinion here is invalid. I'm not saying that your particular example isn't a valid grievance for discrimination, but there are tons of hairstyles that would be considered unprofessional in a business environment where you have to meet with other business people. Said unprofessional hairstyles are not imited to certain races. Like it or not, appearances matter. I would not expect to be taken seriously if I rocked a skullet, long spikes, had designs shaved into my head, a giant mohawk, etc etc. We have a temp at work right now that is wearing basketball shorts and his giant gut is hanging out from under his T-Shirt. He's not black and he's not my subordinate, but I care how he looks because he will need to deal with a client or company partnering with us at times and nearly needed to today. He does look like a giant disgusting slob however, and that's not ok. You don't get to just claim racism every time an employer takes exception to your appearance just because said appearance related attribute is more commonly associated with your race. An employer should be able to choose the image they want to portray to the world. Let their clients decide if they don't like that that people look too boring and if the employees want lax grooming and appearance standards, they can go elsewhere. The problem might be there's no defined standard for what's considered "proper hair" in a business setting, so standards can be rather arbitrary and might not take into account all natural characteristics. If you want a private sector solution, have a business association develop standards for business appearance that can actually be used as a reference and reviewed to see if they're realistic, and not akin to telling folks with naturally frizzy hair "you must have straight hair" to be in compliance. If you flip the situation around, do you think some people would be upset if some giant corporation set arbitrary grooming policy to include everyone must have jet black hair color? |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 5:23:26 PM EDT
[#45]
And then you have a kid like this:
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Family/mom-raises-awareness-son-diagnosed-uncombable-hair-syndrome/story?id=83091244  that would never be able to hold down a job unless he shaved his head everyday LOL. Look, I'm pretty a libertarian, classical liberal, fairly centrist, but I'm not religious about it. Pluralistic societies don't work well when the majority gets to push around minorities. That's just math, politics, and culture. I open to being convinced otherwise but all I heard so far is just grumpy people bitching they don't like it. If you want to keep centrist people on your side you have to be more willing to listen to concerns like this one and put yourself in someone else's shoes. The first such law originated in California so that's a good clue it's a terrible idea. If I was writing such a law, it wouldn't have a special carve out for any minority group, it would be ethnic group neutral. It would just state hair must be clean and not interfere with work/school, maybe something else. While it might "sound nice" the practical application of such a law amounts to force. Giving an ANTIFA thug working for the Department of Hair Protection the power to f' you up if you don't comply. So how do you limit the scope of the law to achieve something reasonable and not give thugs so much power they can f' you up. Well, I don't know how to do that either LOL |
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Posted: 3/20/2022 11:52:27 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And then you have a kid like this: https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Family/mom-raises-awareness-son-diagnosed-uncombable-hair-syndrome/story?id=83091244 https://s.abcnews.com/images/GMA/uncombable-hair-syndrome-locklan-main-01-ht-llr-220224_1645728666847_hpMain_v11x8_16x9_992.jpg that would never be able to hold down a job unless he shaved his head everyday LOL. Nonsense, dye it black and send him to Denmark, won't even need an issued bearskin. Just gotta keep him away from waterfowl. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 12:00:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I seriously doubt there's anyone here that has shared a bed with a black woman. The bullshit they deal with is definitely worth addressing. The very nature of their hair means that typically white styles aren't feasible without literally burning their scalp with chemicals, or spending ridiculous money to have poor Indian people's hair woven onto their heads. My ex got her masters, started a job, and was dragged into her boss' office to talk about her hair. Nothing crazy like a fro, and was professional looking twists with a similar profile to an up-do of straight hair, but her boss tried to demand that she straightened her hair to make it less "ethnic". HR put her in her fucking place real quick. If you haven't at the very least seen Chris Rock's documentary 'Good Hair', your opinion here is invalid. “Good Hair” was eye opening. I had no idea the amount of work black ladies went through to make their hair look like white ladies. Fucking bananas. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 12:17:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Like I said: As long as it's kept neat and clean and doesn't interfere with the job why the hell do you care what their hair looks like? Rhetorical question because I know the answer is "my business my rules". You don't need that level of control over employees to run your business. Because you're a control freak, just admit it. Laws should be kept to a minimum and limited scope. Even this new law, if passed, should have a very light touch, but we all know Congress will write some piece of garbage sledgehammer that will eventually be ruled unconstitutional. How many of you opposed to this law, or the basic principle if not the exact wording, also oppose laws saying businesses cannot discriminate on the basis of race? Come on, be loud and proud, show your racism. I think businesses should be free to discriminate for any reason or no reason. Every hiring practice is discriminatory, in every way. Choosing who you think will be the best employee is necessarily a discriminatory exercise. I think people who discriminate based on immutable characteristics are stupid and wrong, but the market will punish them if they choose to do so. Hairstyles, it should be noted, are not an immutable characteristic, they are a choice. I think firing someone or not hiring for a hairstyle is usually a dumb move, but people should be free to do so. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 12:30:19 AM EDT
[#49]
So mullets are coming back to the south?
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Posted: 3/21/2022 12:34:27 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 1) Grow an outrageous Mohawk. 2) Dye your Mohawk hot pink. 3) Apply for job you come nowhere close to qualifying for: brain surgeon, rocket scientist, etc. 4) Fail to get the job. 5) Sue for discrimination against your hair. 6) Profit |
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