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Quoted: I read a really good book years ago that was similar to that. Leviathan I think? Lots of books named that, I couldn't find what I read. Synopsis is a company creates a dragon on an island, dragon gets loose, main character is the site electrician. It had a green cover. Edit- here it is. https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/leviathan_james-byron-huggins/393313/?resultid=ce26ce42-16a4-4d2e-943c-41527dbbbf46#edition=1604200&idiq=1491572 View Quote Two bucks on Kindle... |
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I am only interested in reading theories that they are real or were real.
If anyone has any schitzo links I'd love to see them |
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On the same note, every culture on the planet has a vampire mythology.
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Quoted: Quoted: I read a really good book years ago that was similar to that. Leviathan I think? Lots of books named that, I couldn't find what I read. Synopsis is a company creates a dragon on an island, dragon gets loose, main character is the site electrician. It had a green cover. Edit- here it is. https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/leviathan_james-byron-huggins/393313/?resultid=ce26ce42-16a4-4d2e-943c-41527dbbbf46#edition=1604200&idiq=1491572 Two bucks on Kindle... It's been a while but I remember enjoying it. There's a pretty heavy spiritual theme as it goes along. |
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Mythology of dragons? NO culture that i know of has. Dragons in Europe are a result of fantasy writing.
Now, symbols of something, like the Chinese and Japanese, representing certain (religious) spirits, yes. |
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One could ask the same question re: god, angels, wild men/Samsquatch, shapeshifting werewolves, witches, etc, etc, etc…..
Why do some gods need human sacrifice? Hell, even god of the Old Testament wanted burnt offerings. Cain & Abel were doing that. Why did ancient Greeks think the “soul” resided in the liver? The Human Condition is odd…. |
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Same reason people invented stories about God(s), needed a captivating campfire tale. Didn’t have the Tok to keep ‘‘em entertained back then.
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Quoted: One could ask the same question re: god, angels, wild men/Samsquatch, shapeshifting werewolves, witches, etc, etc, etc….. Why do some gods need human sacrifice? Hell, even god of the Old Testament wanted burnt offerings. Cain & Abel were doing that. Why did ancient Greeks think the “soul” resided in the liver? The Human Condition is odd…. View Quote I passed over a podcast about how cultures around the globe independently used white for wedding dresses. I thought "interesting if true, but just don't care" |
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They all smoked the same shit at one time and since the brain is wired everywhere the same it came up with the same fantasy vision.
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Combination of dinosaur fossils and large monitor lizards.
Very slim chance of a couple dinosaurs or something similar living long enough to be seen, maybe even hunted, by humans, and some more mythology grew out of that. |
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Creganford has a channel that specializes in Proto-Indo-European roots of ancient mythologies.
Fighting Dragons: A Comparative Mythology |
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When people ask questions like this I like to reserve part of my brain to think "Maybe, just maybe they were exactly as described and existed."
Not much though, you'd think some king would have a sweet passed down dragon head or something |
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Someone long ago found a fossil pterodactyl and, well, that was that.
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How do you explain the myth of god/gods across human cultures?
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People traveled, talked, and drew pictures.
I'm fairly convinced we have deeply buried memories from far prehistoric times when a dinosaur chased us. They emerge when we're toddlers, then get reburied about age 5. |
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Quoted: I’ve been wondering why dragons don’t have balls. You would think a creature that can breath fire would have a huge set of gonads but nope, no balls. Think how different Pete’s Dragon would have been? Or how cool it would have been if Bard shot Smaug in the dick instead of some stupid missing scale? It would have been high fives and beers for life for Bard and everyone would be like, that was so cool when you shot Smaug in the junk but noooooo. View Quote Reptiles don't have scrotums |
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Stories/folklore travel. Same reason we have similar stories throughout many regions/races.
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Quoted: Well? View Quote We've got great big lizards today. And we ain't the only generation of humanity to have discovered fossils. |
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Haven't thought of this topic.
Mainly because I cant remember the last time I discussed dragons with anyone. |
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Dragons are winged serpents like the Chinese version - long snake like bodies and large wings. Western culture made them big fat mofos with small wings.
Symbols of the winged serpent go back to Sumerian culture and Mesoamerica. It represented their highest god who came to earth with other gods to teach humanity forbidden knowledge. Ancient aliens stuff has the winged serpent all being the same "God" but under different names like Enki, Thoth, Quetzalcoatl, Viracocha, Kukulkan. The biblical reference would be Lucifer. The ruins of Puma Punku have an arch (Gate of the Sun) that depicts the arrival of Veracocha: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gate_of_the_Sun |
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Maybe stories handed down and embellished from the encounter between Eve and the flying serpent in the Garden of Eden.
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Quoted: What film is this I need to watch it… @DistanceX View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Fire-breathing motherfuckers. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/340401/OIG__8__jpeg-3040457.JPG What film is this I need to watch it… @DistanceX Rulons meet the Borg. A ChatGPT exclusive. |
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Quoted: Do any of the tribes/people from the Americas have dragon stories (pre-Columbus)? I think it is an eastern hemisphere thing. View Quote American indians did find fossil bones, and came up with stories about the creatures they came from, the same as the Europeans and Asians. Here's a book about the subject: Fossil Legends of the First Americans by Adrienne Mayor https://www.amazon.com/dp/0691130493?tag=arfcom00-20 |
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Quoted: If flying dragons were real, they'd have thin hollow bones which wouldn't fossilize easily. The discovery of Dinosaur fossils didn't happen until the 1800's, dragons have been portrayed for hundreds if not thousands of years prior, and in parts of the world where dinosaur fossils aren't found. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: People found fossil bones of dinosaurs, mammoths and so on... and interpreted them the best they could. And if they were in fact fire breathing they likely had an acidic mixture within their circulatory system, meaning when they died their structure could more easily dissolve. |
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Quoted: Adrienne Mayor wrote another book on this topic: "The First Fossil Hunters: Dinosaurs, Mammoths, and Myth in Greek and Roman Times." I read it some years ago... it turns out that it was common for giant fossil bones (such as mammoth or wooly rhino) to be thought to be the bones of giants and heros of ancient times... some were installed in temples! Here is a Greek vase depicting a legend of Homer, of the "Monster of Troy".... Notice the monster is a skull sticking out of a cliff face! https://i.stack.imgur.com/SUFoB.jpg View Quote There's a number of European Churches that display Dragon or Giant bones still. It was a more common practice in the early church, with Dragon bones flanking the entry or installed in the Narthex, or sometimes behind the alter. |
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Quoted: I think the Chinese dragon is related to meteors/fireballs. Maybe they all are. Fossils too. Seems weird people would think mammoths were cyclops since we hunted them for millennia. Sea level has risen about 100 meters since the last glacial maximum, with many rapid events along the way. The biggest one was at the beginning of the holocene. There's reason to believe that one started off with a sudden event like an ocean strike and is likely the original source of the global flood stories. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Why European dragons have wings and the Oriental ones don't, even though they can also fly? I think the Chinese dragon is related to meteors/fireballs. Maybe they all are. Fossils too. Seems weird people would think mammoths were cyclops since we hunted them for millennia. Quoted: Epic flood stories are fairly universal across many cultures all over the world too. AJ mentions this a lot on The Why Files podcasts. These are either stories that have staying power due to some sort of psychological uniformity in humans, or something made a huge impact on everybody all over the world to the point it's still talked about. Sea level has risen about 100 meters since the last glacial maximum, with many rapid events along the way. The biggest one was at the beginning of the holocene. There's reason to believe that one started off with a sudden event like an ocean strike and is likely the original source of the global flood stories. I did not know about meteorites. Don't Chinese link dragons to snakes in their mythology? The big floods theory is interesting. Here in the NW there was a very large event millennia ago when a large ice dam broke out and released the waters of a massive lake behind it. The very large stream flowed towards the Pacific Ocean and wrecked havoc in its path. That was only found out recently when satellite and aerial photos showed the ripple-like formations left by water flowing at high speeds that look like hills if observed from the ground. The same way it happened here, it likely also happened elsewhere and folklore did the rest. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missoula_floods How many species went extinct during our recorded History? How many likely also disappeared before it and were only recorded in tales and bedtime stories? Dragons might have been one of those and got a bit fantasized over time. |
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My bosses husband was a mythology professor researching this. He died.
There is a lot of evolutionary drive behind the fear of snakes/reptiles and birds. This ingrained fear also makes for compelling storytelling. |
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People found fossils of dinosaurs like the t-Rex and made up stories to match those giant teeth.
Pretty easy to figure out. China has more dragon stories and guess what more fossils. |
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Quoted: I am only interested in reading theories that they are real or were real. View Quote Clearly the myth is due to a 1970's era pair of planes that appeared out of a time warp during the Battle of Syracuse in 212BC and then just as magically disappeared. The telling and retelling of this occurrence over the ages morphed them into dragons. I have video proof... |
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Quoted: I'm not a big mythology guy, where they all portrayed as blood suckers? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: On the same note, every culture on the planet has a vampire mythology. I'm not a big mythology guy, where they all portrayed as blood suckers? We call them insurance agents today. |
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Quoted: My bosses husband was a mythology professor researching this. He died. There is a lot of evolutionary drive behind the fear of snakes/reptiles and birds. This ingrained fear also makes for compelling storytelling. View Quote People fear snakes because they don't want to get bit. Evolutionary fear of birds? |
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