Nailed it.

Wrong.

nationalism
noun
identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.

Wheres the ethno anything in the definition?

Were the KJV translators leftists?

And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; (Acts 17:26, KJV)

The word translated as nations being ????? in the original Greek, transliterated to ethnos. Seems like the concept of race/ethnicity has bound up with the word nation for a while.

You don't seem to understand the meaning of the word "nation".

Hint, it's not the same as state or country.

I am a Gringo living in Corpus Christi.

This area is about 65-70% Hispanic, yet Nueces County votes red and is pretty solid.

The Tejanos here are very patriotic, and very proud of their heritage...but then again, Texas is a different place than the rest of the country.  They are big Trump supporters, want a wall and want illegal immigration stopped.

Then there's the La Raza Shitheels...those guys...suck.

nation
[nSH()n]
NOUN

a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.

Seems I do and you dont. So you hush.

Context...

Ever heard of the Aryan “Nations”?

And here we see someone using on one part of the definition.  The entire definition however allows for nationalism and nations not based on race or ethnicity.  Kthx.

You are way out of your pay grade. Seriously.

Were they not?

Hitler was insane. You understand this right? He was a "nationalist" like Westboro Baptist Church are "Christians".

Refer earlier in the thread to discussions around historical context.  There is a lot of noise in the thread, but a couple of intelligent posters have explained it well.

HIstory may be fixed and the present is based in it but that does not mean that what was absolutely dictates what is.

I used Spain and England as examples specifically because what they were is not what they are. A Welshman sees himself as Welsh and as British the same way a Texan sees himself as a Texan and an American. A Basque who is not a bomb thrower sees himself as a Basque and a Spaniard the same way an angry Texan sees himself as at Texan and an American. I think that the definition you are using might be so limited and granular as to say that the city state or maybe even the village is the boundary within which one finds the appropriate level of homogeneity needed to fit the description of nation.

Let's explore the definition I posted. "Relatively homogenous". Welsh are really no different than English or Scots or even Irish. They are, every one of them, kelts of one stripe or another with a healthy dash of gaul, german and norse thrown in for a bit of fun.  They all grew up on the same soggy little island. Basques and Castilians are all Iberians. They just happen to have grown up in different neighborhoods in Iberia. You say you're not aware of any Welsh separatist movement. Well that's because Welsh spelling is so attorcious that no one can read the fliers advertising the meetings. There's no Texas Liberation Front or California Republican Army but that doesn't stop folks talking about Texans building a wall around themselves or Non-Californians dreaming of expelling California from the union. Homogeneity does not need to meen Japanese style homogeneity. Even there I'm betting that an Okinawan sure as fuck thinks he's different from some northern bastard from Sapporo.

Americans are relatively homogenous in that most of us grew up on the same continent under the same general set of rules and we mostly see things sort of the same way. We are confident that we are not real and current Canadians or Mexicans or Irish or Italian or Russian anymore after our families hit the second generation and we sure as fuck are Americans through and through by the third generation. A New Yorker, a Bozeman Montanite and an Angeleno might think they are as different from each other as chalk and cheese but you drop all three in Kabul and you'll see they are Americans first and foremost.

Weak sauce. You would have been better off citing the Canadian First Nations or maybe the Cherokee Nation. Aryan Nations is a tiny mishmash group that uses a pitbull word to lend weight to it's chihuaha ass.

Those examples work as well. La Raza was a good example earlier, but this is a literal place and without the word “nation” it is lost on many.

I'm pretty sure nation in Swedish is now defined as

caliphate

Pretty sure he was elected as a National Socialist and tens of millions of Germans willingly followed him. That is why he was able to round up 12+ million people who wouldn't serve or were deemed unfit and starve them to death or executed them. The majority decided it was in their interest as a nation to enslave and murder those people so they could take what they had, which is pretty much what socialists do any time they are elected in power and able to wield force.

The people trying to kill him were technically terrorists. As fucked up as that may sound.

Your logic escapes me. Are you saying La Raza fits the definition of a nation? It's a chihuahua assed college student debating society that has some older members who never grew past their brown beret college days.  Are you saying that the Aryan "Nations" have a geographic homeland? Idaho may be pretty white but not all white.

So your understanding of the term is solely based on a dictionary?

Do you always just let everyone know you're hispanic/vegan/crossfit????

Google Reconquista

So do hispanics/vegans/crossfitters.

I am a nationalist.  I happen to be a minority.  I am 100% God first, then America.

I don't care what color your skin happens to be, if you love America we are brothers.

Weird European Pretension Intensifies.

I mean eating rotten fish and furniture cleaner tasting reindeer meat balls and having a Queen is cool and all but damn.

(secretly wishes we had a bitching queen)

a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.

Why not just call yourself a patriot?

You hate us 'cause you ain't us.

Yes it does, and if you're wondering about the meanings of words use a dictionary.

It's a great way to learn a definition of a word is it not?

And another one.

I wish we had a Queen.

If you failed history, sure.

Fair question:  A patriot loves his country.  A nationalist loves his nation.  A nation is people. A country is land.  Being a Christian, I understand things like land and buildings are inconsequential - the Lord's Church is his people. If I seek to be like him, I should learn the lessons he teaches me.

The people are what matter in both Christianity and the Nation.  The land and the buildings are something else that may come and may go.  Your brothers and your sisters are the true heart of the matter.

Reading his replies it seems he puts some kind of emotional attachment onto words and runs off with scissors while creating his own definition. Then proceeds to insult people who know the true definition of said words.

So let me get this straight. Discard defined word as used for practically ever and instead replace with random Swedish guy on interweb?

It all fun and games until someone discover "patriotism" i.e. "patria" are a very sexist .
Be ready for materopatriotism

Nobody has failed history. We can do what Sweden does and over politicize words.

So when I say use a "liberal" amount of grease on the AR's bolt carrier it now means put a gay flag sticker, engrave with "I'm with her", and make sure it voters for open borders.

Trusting a dictionary to teach you complex concepts, such as nationality, is pants on head retarded.

You keep on being you though.

Apparently feelz > definitions for some here.

lol

Coming from a Yank, that's pretty damn funny.

That’s a good answer

Out of curiosity, how are you defining your people?  For example, are they only Christian?  Or can they be Jews? Buddhists? Muslims?

Please not meant to be taken wrong as there is no wrong answer.

Ok, so pants on head retard is the definition?

Yup. Though I would argue that generations of toil and blood shed has won us this land and anyone that changes the make up for no other reason than to gain power for a faction to loot those they've artificially replaced are traitors.

Nothing against the people that come here. My people came and settled land and claimed their freedom. My problem is with the politicians that use bribes to buy vote and claim things they have no claim to.

None of this would even be an issue if we had sane governance. You could bring in as many people as you like so long as the major policy governing people was decided locally by the multitudes instead of by 535 people.

I am a nationalist by default, I love people who subscribe to the nations founding ideals, and the culture those ideals created. I despise much of what my government is doing and has done in my name. In order to be a Patriot, you must love the state that you were birthed into. I do not. I love the good it does and despise the evil it does.

Yet here you are with your own definition..

ETA: USA is a hard concept for many to understand.

I don't have to google it. It's a fucking silly assed pipe dream. Like house keepers, construction laborers and nannies are going to "retake" the American Southwest . Dream on. By the time their children have enough political power to do it, they will be as Americanized as I and my cousins are. And we all have no interest in being Mexicans (in the citizen/national sense not the legacy cultural sense). Anyway, in my family,we refer to it as the assimilation plan. I married a white woman and sired a beautiful tan daughter on her. My brother married a Ginger and sired a beautiful tan daughter on her. Our daughters will then either go out and snare themselves gringos of their own or find other halfies to further strengthen the tan gene. Most of my cousins have married Gringos and have bred good strong tan children with them too. Of course we are more Spaniard than Mestizo so when the reconquista is finalized, we'll be on top of the social and political pile of indios and mestizos just like we were in the old country. We are a tall and proud family. Too tall for stoop labor. Just like god intended.

Didn't someone recently post an article about how the whiteman's fetish for accurate math and words and academic rigor was racist?  Did we ever agree if space was real of not? Is his whiteness supposed to sickitate me now? I'm confused?

You presumably understand that the size and/or effectiveness of these organizations has no bearing on what they are or aren’t.

Cuba is no less communist than China, despite being smaller and less effective.