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Posted: 11/5/2019 2:52:35 PM EDT
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Apparently feelz > definitions for some here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Yes it does, and if you're wondering about the meanings of words use a dictionary. The root word for Patriotism is father. The root word for Nationalism is birth. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 2:52:38 PM EDT
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Trusting a dictionary to teach you complex concepts, such as nationality, is pants on head retarded. You keep on being you though.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: If you failed history, sure. You keep on being you though. Rice is rice. Sushi is rice with stuff added. Sushi is not rice. See how that works. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 2:52:48 PM EDT
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Yet here you are with your own definition.. ETA: USA is a hard concept for many to understand. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 2:55:29 PM EDT
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lol Coming from a Yank, that's pretty damn funny.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: If you failed history, sure. So when I say use a "liberal" amount of grease on the AR's bolt carrier it now means put a gay flag sticker, engrave with "I'm with her", and make sure it voters for open borders. Coming from a Yank, that's pretty damn funny.
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Posted: 11/5/2019 2:56:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You seem to have difficulty understanding a lot of things. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 2:57:41 PM EDT
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When someone makes a thread that announces “I am a Nationalist,” you can be certain that their intent is to politicize words. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:01:18 PM EDT
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You presumably understand that the size and/or effectiveness of these organizations has no bearing on what they are or aren’t. Cuba is no less communist than China, despite being smaller and less effective. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Context... Ever heard of the Aryan “Nations”?  . Dream on. By the time their children have enough political power to do it, they will be as Americanized as I and my cousins are. And we all have no interest in being Mexicans (in the citizen/national sense not the legacy cultural sense). Anyway, in my family,we refer to it as the assimilation plan. I married a white woman and sired a beautiful tan daughter on her. My brother married a Ginger and sired a beautiful tan daughter on her. Our daughters will then either go out and snare themselves gringos of their own or find other halfies to further strengthen the tan gene. Most of my cousins have married Gringos and have bred good strong tan children with them too. Of course we are more Spaniard than Mestizo so when the reconquista is finalized, we'll be on top of the social and political pile of indios and mestizos just like we were in the old country. We are a tall and proud family. Too tall for stoop labor. Just like god intended. Cuba is no less communist than China, despite being smaller and less effective. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:03:06 PM EDT
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Other than saying this why don't you help me understand? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:04:13 PM EDT
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Cuba is at least sort of organized. La Reconquista is as real a possible outcome as American black separatists or Aryan nations loons carving a homeland out of the United States. Browning up your home town does not turn it into Spain's North American colony again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Context... Ever heard of the Aryan “Nations”? . Dream on. By the time their children have enough political power to do it, they will be as Americanized as I and my cousins are. And we all have no interest in being Mexicans (in the citizen/national sense not the legacy cultural sense). Anyway, in my family,we refer to it as the assimilation plan. I married a white woman and sired a beautiful tan daughter on her. My brother married a Ginger and sired a beautiful tan daughter on her. Our daughters will then either go out and snare themselves gringos of their own or find other halfies to further strengthen the tan gene. Most of my cousins have married Gringos and have bred good strong tan children with them too. Of course we are more Spaniard than Mestizo so when the reconquista is finalized, we'll be on top of the social and political pile of indios and mestizos just like we were in the old country. We are a tall and proud family. Too tall for stoop labor. Just like god intended. Cuba is no less communist than China, despite being smaller and less effective. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:04:15 PM EDT
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Other than saying this why don't you help me understand? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You seem to have difficulty understanding a lot of things. The Jewish nation has existed for a long time, but the Jewish state only became a reality in 1947. Nationalism means loyalty to ones own people, the Volk. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:05:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So your understanding of the term is solely based on a dictionary?  Oh, and btw, guess what part of the definition he fit. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:06:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look at it this way; Yugoslavia was a country, but not a nation, Kurdistan is a nation, but not a country. The Jewish nation has existed for a long time, but the Jewish state only became a reality in 1947. Nationalism means loyalty to ones own people, the Volk. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:07:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fair question: A patriot loves his country. A nationalist loves his nation. A nation is people. A country is land. Being a Christian, I understand things like land and buildings are inconsequential - the Lord's Church is his people. If I seek to be like him, I should learn the lessons he teaches me. The people are what matter in both Christianity and the Nation. The land and the buildings are something else that may come and may go. Your brothers and your sisters are the true heart of the matter. country [kntr] NOUN a nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory. Its like words mean things.. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:11:40 PM EDT
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Trusting a dictionary to teach you complex concepts, such as nationality, is pants on head retarded. You keep on being you though. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:11:55 PM EDT
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You're not wrong. So what is your discrepancy about? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Look at it this way; Yugoslavia was a country, but not a nation, Kurdistan is a nation, but not a country. The Jewish nation has existed for a long time, but the Jewish state only became a reality in 1947. Nationalism means loyalty to ones own people, the Volk. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:12:38 PM EDT
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So your understanding only comes from one psychopath who was a Socialist? Oh, and btw, guess what part of the definition he fit. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:16:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The nation as a concept is based on history, language, and ethnicity. The US is based on the first of those, with certain ideals added, but it's not based around any specific ethnicity. Ethnicity-the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:16:56 PM EDT
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Yup. Though I would argue that generations of toil and blood shed has won us this land and anyone that changes the make up for no other reason than to gain power for a faction to loot those they've artificially replaced are traitors. Nothing against the people that come here. My people came and settled land and claim their freedom. My problem is with the politicians that use bribes to buy vote and claim things they have no claim to. None of this would even be an issue if we had sane governance. You could bring in as many people as you like so long as the major policy governing people was decided locally by the multitudes instead of by 535 people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Why not just call yourself a patriot? The people are what matter in both Christianity and the Nation. The land and the buildings are something else that may come and may go. Your brothers and your sisters are the true heart of the matter. Nothing against the people that come here. My people came and settled land and claim their freedom. My problem is with the politicians that use bribes to buy vote and claim things they have no claim to. None of this would even be an issue if we had sane governance. You could bring in as many people as you like so long as the major policy governing people was decided locally by the multitudes instead of by 535 people. Nationalism isnt so much an extreme version of patriotism but a different idea that can and does overlap with it: |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:18:09 PM EDT
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I didn't but then again, words have meaning to me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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When someone makes a thread that announces “I am a Nationalist,” you can be certain that their intent is to politicize words. Historical context is a thing. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:20:02 PM EDT
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You are incorrect. The USA is based on all of them. Ethnicity-the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: The nation as a concept is based on history, language, and ethnicity. The US is based on the first of those, with certain ideals added, but it's not based around any specific ethnicity. Ethnicity-the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:20:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are you even talking about? |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:22:51 PM EDT
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Ethnicity requires a bit more than that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: The nation as a concept is based on history, language, and ethnicity. The US is based on the first of those, with certain ideals added, but it's not based around any specific ethnicity. Ethnicity-the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition. [eTHnisd] NOUN the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:23:47 PM EDT
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Swedes basically trying to say that Nationalist = Nazi. I mean he is European and even the mere utterance of the word nationalist will get one branded racist, antisemitic, etc. He also has been saying that the actual definition of the word doesnt matter because of history and to claim otherwise makes one stupid. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: What are you even talking about? I take it you failed English, much as you failed history? |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:24:54 PM EDT
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ethnicity [eTHnisd] NOUN the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition. Oh well. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:25:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We agree that they are ineffective |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:25:55 PM EDT
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The meaning of words is more than just what we see in the Dictionary, right? Historical context is a thing. I believe what you are really going for is that it has an emotional definition. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:26:54 PM EDT
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The meaning of words is more than just what we see in the Dictionary, right? Historical context is a thing. Unfortunately, you and many others have been trained to align the word "nationalist" to being a racist type of thing. This is largely due to the MSM's use of the word. However, the MSM uses an adjective before the word. This has trained people to think the word itself is bad due to that adjective and the relationship of the words. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:27:05 PM EDT
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So much oof.
I’m just a guy who wants to be left alone. Where’s my movement? |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:27:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You're just gonna keep posting from a dictionary huh? Oh well. Largest historical experience you as a Swede and European have with it is a megalomaniac who didnt exactly like any other racial groups and you dancing around like that isnt what youre basing your emotional argument on is rather humorous |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:28:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ethnicity requires a bit more than that. But, I would like to hear your definition of ethnicity. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:29:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The nation as a concept is based on history, language, and ethnicity. The US is based on the first of those, with certain ideals added, but it's not based around any specific ethnicity. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:32:16 PM EDT
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Ethnicity requires a bit more than that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:33:43 PM EDT
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This entirely depends on the context of the discussion. Unfortunately, you and many others have been trained to align the word "nationalist" to being a racist type of thing. This is largely due to the MSM's use of the word. However, the MSM uses an adjective before the word. This has trained people to think the word itself is bad due to that adjective and the relationship of the words. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The meaning of words is more than just what we see in the Dictionary, right? Historical context is a thing. Unfortunately, you and many others have been trained to align the word "nationalist" to being a racist type of thing. This is largely due to the MSM's use of the word. However, the MSM uses an adjective before the word. This has trained people to think the word itself is bad due to that adjective and the relationship of the words. I'd suggest rereading some of the better posts, rather than re-litigating. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:34:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because we chose to expand the definition of nation. We expanded what we define as our volk. Our volk includes not only cracker ass crackers but everyone else who decides to become us. That even includes wayward Swedes who got sick of being cold in Swedeland and decided to be cold in Michigan. As Americans we are among the same social group who share a common national or cultural tradition. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:35:06 PM EDT
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This is taking me back to my comment about the USA being a hard concept for many to understand. But, I would like to hear your definition of ethnicity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Ethnicity requires a bit more than that. But, I would like to hear your definition of ethnicity. I could move to Japan, learn Japanese, and dress likem, but I'll never be Japanese. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:36:09 PM EDT
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Now you will argue genes? Didn't some short little Austrian dude do that back in the mid 20th century? Paging Doctor Godwin. Doctor Godwin to the white courtesy phone please. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:40:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ethnicity requires a shared history, culture, language, and physical features, as well as a sense of belonging to the group. I could move to Japan, learn Japanese, and dress likem, but I'll never be Japanese. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:40:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The historical context is... historical. If you had said you were a nationalist 10 years ago it would be met with the same reaction, or stronger. It's not some recent MSM twist on the definition. If anything, the right is attempting to redefine it, much the way the left constantly redefines other words (which we complain about ad nauseam). But this has already been discussed in detail in the thread. I'd suggest rereading some of the better posts, rather than re-litigating. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:40:42 PM EDT
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As an American, without ever seeing what I look like, what is my nationality? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:43:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Now you will argue genes? Didn't some short little Austrian dude do that back in the mid 20th century? Paging Doctor Godwin. Doctor Godwin to the white courtesy phone please. 
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:43:20 PM EDT
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This entirely depends on the context of the discussion. Unfortunately, you and many others have been trained to align the word "nationalist" to being a racist type of thing. This is largely due to the MSM's use of the word. However, the MSM uses an adjective before the word. This has trained people to think the word itself is bad due to that adjective and the relationship of the words. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The meaning of words is more than just what we see in the Dictionary, right? Historical context is a thing. Unfortunately, you and many others have been trained to align the word "nationalist" to being a racist type of thing. This is largely due to the MSM's use of the word. However, the MSM uses an adjective before the word. This has trained people to think the word itself is bad due to that adjective and the relationship of the words. The two terms are virtually interchangeable. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:43:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:43:54 PM EDT
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na·tion-state noun a sovereign state whose citizens or subjects are relatively homogeneous in factors such as language or common descent. If I understand your use, Spain and England hardly count as nation states because they have the Welsh and the Basques to worry about. Perhaps more time spent looking at maps and less time spent reading dictionaries? |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:45:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is wholly impossible to strip the concept of “nation” from the historical concept of “race.” The two terms are virtually interchangeable. Is Brazil a nation? Yes. What race are Brazilians? ??? |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:45:58 PM EDT
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There is nothing wrong with nationalism, holding your own nation above all others is how it should be. There is nothing racist about it. Did we approve of all these violent monkeys coming into our country? No
Globalist = communist because that is exactly what these marxist idiots want. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:48:30 PM EDT
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Wrong. Is Brazil a nation? Yes. What race are Brazilians? ??? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: It is wholly impossible to strip the concept of “nation” from the historical concept of “race.” The two terms are virtually interchangeable. Is Brazil a nation? Yes. What race are Brazilians? ??? |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:50:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Brazil did not exist when the concept of race originated. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:52:40 PM EDT
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Remember the bad old days when most of GD got a good guffaw out of this?
Back then, seems the idea was to make fun of the Left for equating citizenship with nationality. How quickly things change here. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:53:08 PM EDT
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Globalists are the true racists, not nationalists. Globalists want open borders and mass migration in order to change the racial make up of targeted countries (white countries) just like they pretend to project "diversity" while destroying human diversity.
I'm a nationalist and want all others to be nationalists in their own countries. I want Sweden to stay Swedish, Germany to stay German the same way I want Nigeria to stay Nigerian and Japan to stay Japanese. Not all blended together into some mix like the Middle East. True racists want some races destroyed, some to survive (the ones they can control) and those are the Globalists pushing open borders and targeted mass migration. Nationalists want to preserve true human diversity within nations by not destroying it. I want a world with white people, Asian people, African people, blonde hair, red hair, black hair, blue eyes, green eyes and brown eyes, etc. "Diversity" destroys all of that as does Globalism. |
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Posted: 11/5/2019 3:53:25 PM EDT
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