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Posted: 1/22/2022 4:41:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Point taken. I am too worked up about this, mainly because I have a real fear that these types of groups have gained traction on the right due to people's frustrations and the crazy amount of propaganda that is being pumped into people's brains. Nobody on the right is accepting of these clowns. You saw in the footage in Chicago the pro-lifers wanted nothing to do with them |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 5:29:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just an FYI, I kind of like being called People's Ruler. I'm carrying my head a little higher today because of you. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124774/799F38B8-0465-4D2C-B96A-8727A9E04A01-2250102.jpg Pretty much everyone here thinks you're an ass. That's consistent among all the threads I've noticed you camp out in and run your mouth. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 5:42:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nobody on the right is accepting of these clowns. You saw in the footage in Chicago the pro-lifers wanted nothing to do with them Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Point taken. I am too worked up about this, mainly because I have a real fear that these types of groups have gained traction on the right due to people's frustrations and the crazy amount of propaganda that is being pumped into people's brains. Nobody on the right is accepting of these clowns. You saw in the footage in Chicago the pro-lifers wanted nothing to do with them Except they are. The parent group of PF was at Charlottesville, and somehow Nazi shit keeps ending up at our rallies and social media. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 5:58:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/514647/D97020F1-B442-405F-B822-ADA8A88C7CA6-2250135.jpg Looks like it was me who asked you for proof beyond appearance. (see detailed info graphic above and refer to blue arrow.) |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 6:14:04 PM EDT
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Weird I thought you couldn’t post hacked material on Twitter..
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Posted: 1/22/2022 6:15:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Weird I thought you couldn’t post hacked material on Twitter.. Thats how DDoS got banned now they just post how to get to it |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 6:28:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except they are. The parent group of PF was at Charlottesville, and somehow Nazi shit keeps ending up at our rallies and social media. Same group doing the same shit under a different name doesn't help your argument. It is consistent with my posts though. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 6:36:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except they are. The parent group of PF was at Charlottesville, and somehow Nazi shit keeps ending up at our rallies and social media. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Point taken. I am too worked up about this, mainly because I have a real fear that these types of groups have gained traction on the right due to people's frustrations and the crazy amount of propaganda that is being pumped into people's brains. Nobody on the right is accepting of these clowns. You saw in the footage in Chicago the pro-lifers wanted nothing to do with them Except they are. The parent group of PF was at Charlottesville, and somehow Nazi shit keeps ending up at our rallies and social media. Well tell the feds and leftists to stop trying to infiltrate and force assocation with the right. Their operation hasn't worked yet, but they keep trying. Charlottesville was also a false flag, remember the organizer being an Obama voter and they again staged performance with outfits and torches. These are leftist things. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 6:38:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well tell the feds and leftists to stop trying to infiltrate and force assocation with the right. Charlottesville was also a false flag, remember the organizer being an Obama voter and they again staged performance with outfits and torches. These are leftist things. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Point taken. I am too worked up about this, mainly because I have a real fear that these types of groups have gained traction on the right due to people's frustrations and the crazy amount of propaganda that is being pumped into people's brains. Nobody on the right is accepting of these clowns. You saw in the footage in Chicago the pro-lifers wanted nothing to do with them Except they are. The parent group of PF was at Charlottesville, and somehow Nazi shit keeps ending up at our rallies and social media. Well tell the feds and leftists to stop trying to infiltrate and force assocation with the right. Charlottesville was also a false flag, remember the organizer being an Obama voter and they again staged performance with outfits and torches. These are leftist things. Conservatives don't have the time to protest like liberals. We have actual jobs. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 6:51:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Conservatives don't have the time to protest like liberals. We have actual jobs. How long ago was Charlottesville anyways? These leftists keep speaking about it like it was yesterday and these events are weekly. Even if these fucks were real, they are so insignificant they aren't even worth fucking talking about. But it's all they have to slander their political enemies and distract from the absolute depraved behavior of their side. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 6:53:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How long ago was Charlottesville anyways? These leftists keep speaking about it like it was yesterday and these events are weekly. Even if these fucks were real, they are so insignificant they aren't even worth fucking talking about. But it's all they have to slander their political enemies and distract from the absolute depraved behavior of their side. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Conservatives don't have the time to protest like liberals. We have actual jobs. How long ago was Charlottesville anyways? These leftists keep speaking about it like it was yesterday and these events are weekly. Even if these fucks were real, they are so insignificant they aren't even worth fucking talking about. But it's all they have to slander their political enemies and distract from the absolute depraved behavior of their side. I think real Conservative groups have done about 1 real protest a year. Probably some minor local things but for a major get-together it's 1 a year I'd bet. Maybe less. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 6:55:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same group doing the same shit under a different name doesn't help your argument. It is consistent with my posts though. So why haven't we gotten rid of them if it's the same people over and over? |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 6:58:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well tell the feds and leftists to stop trying to infiltrate and force assocation with the right. Their operation hasn't worked yet, but they keep trying. Charlottesville was also a false flag, remember the organizer being an Obama voter and they again staged performance with outfits and torches. These are leftist things. And we're back to everything I don't like is a false flag or fed op. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 6:58:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So why haven't we gotten rid of them if it's the same people over and over? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Same group doing the same shit under a different name doesn't help your argument. It is consistent with my posts though. So why haven't we gotten rid of them if it's the same people over and over? They aren't "our" responsibility to get rid of. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 7:00:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And we're back to everything I don't like is a false flag or fed op. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well tell the feds and leftists to stop trying to infiltrate and force assocation with the right. Their operation hasn't worked yet, but they keep trying. Charlottesville was also a false flag, remember the organizer being an Obama voter and they again staged performance with outfits and torches. These are leftist things. And we're back to everything I don't like is a false flag or fed op. Yeah. That false flag stuff is too much. I'm still hoping they find those frat guys who lit the poor innocent girl on fire. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 7:02:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not if he's a Fed asset. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Odds he's going to be prosecuted for impeding feds? Not if he's a Fed asset. Well..... They all are |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 7:03:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So why haven't we gotten rid of them if it's the same people over and over? That would appear to depend on who "we" is. Or do you mean "why are they still showing up at demonstrations LARPing as conservatives, which the MSM readily purports them to be?" |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 7:04:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They aren't "our" responsibility to get rid of. If your having a rally and dudes show up with swastika flags, if you don't want to be associated with them you kinda need to deal with it. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 7:08:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If your having a rally and dudes show up with swastika flags, if you don't want to be associated with them you kinda need to deal with it. Do you want us to engage in violence? And how often is this again? |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 7:10:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If your're having a pro life rally and dudes show up with swastika flags, if you don't want to be associated with them you kinda need to deal with it. That's kind of the point of PF and this thread. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 7:15:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you want us to engage in violence? And how often is this again? Of course not. Isolate them and get away from them. Make it apparent that you're not with them. Don't stand side by side with them. Too much really, the answer should be zero. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 7:16:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's kind of the point of PF and this thread. Nice catch on the your/you're. If it's not PF, could it be some other group? Has there been other groups to play the boogeyman? |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 7:22:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you never heard of an undercover investigation in your career as a lawyer? There are movies about this very thing so that I don’t have to explain. Go watch Point Break or Fast and the Furious. Cop infiltrates group. Has to do some illegal stuff to make the group believe they are legit. The misdemeanors they commit are not prosecuted and to the public are sold as necessary to infiltrate. Feds or not, have you never heard of this? That seems really odd. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What do you think happens when a Federal agent eventually gets outed as having painted swastikas over gay pride murals? In the real world that's something that will come out and will end careers. Besides they have the names of people involved, photos. Takes a pretty serious suspension of disbelief, but then we had people here believing pizzagate and all that nonsense about child kidnapping Have you never heard of an undercover investigation in your career as a lawyer? There are movies about this very thing so that I don’t have to explain. Go watch Point Break or Fast and the Furious. Cop infiltrates group. Has to do some illegal stuff to make the group believe they are legit. The misdemeanors they commit are not prosecuted and to the public are sold as necessary to infiltrate. Feds or not, have you never heard of this? That seems really odd. ATF used to have KKK cookouts in the 90s. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 7:24:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Point taken. I am too worked up about this, mainly because I have a real fear that these types of groups have gained traction on the right due to people's frustrations and the crazy amount of propaganda that is being pumped into people's brains. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm not singing their praises. What do you think "our" response should be? Clutch our pearls and loudly denounce them? Hey, everybody! I think PF are a bunch of assholes! ... I also think they're a bunch of Feds. My opinion and response doesn't really matter. I don't understand why you are getting worked up. Gaining traction? Nobody knows who these clowns are or wants anything to do with them. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 7:30:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If your having a rally and dudes show up with swastika flags, if you don't want to be associated with them you kinda need to deal with it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They aren't "our" responsibility to get rid of. If your having a rally and dudes show up with swastika flags, if you don't want to be associated with them you kinda need to deal with it. You mean like telling them to leave? Like the Pro Life people did? Or should they have thrown down? |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 7:31:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course not. Isolate them and get away from them. Make it apparent that you're not with them. Don't stand side by side with them. Too much really, the answer should be zero. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Do you want us to engage in violence? And how often is this again? Of course not. Isolate them and get away from them. Make it apparent that you're not with them. Don't stand side by side with them. Too much really, the answer should be zero. You are full of it. Too much is what a handful of times over a decade when the left organized it for a political agenda? Get real. The right does not associate with these people. These groups are trying to force association for "some reason". That association sure seems to benefit the false narrative coming out of the left, don't you think? Why is it always these little known obscure groups too? In Charlottesville an Obama voter organized some kind of white supremacists performance in the midsts of the legitimate issue of protests against cultural Marxists tearing down historical monuments. The false association worked there, because all anyone in the media talked about was that bullshit instead of the real issue. Then they lied about what Trump said over and over again. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 7:51:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You mean like telling them to leave? Like the Pro Life people did? Or should they have thrown down? Tell them to leave, move away from them, put out a statement denouncing them in real time, and make it painfully aware you want nothing to do with them. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 7:53:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tell them to leave, move away from them, put out a statement denouncing them in real time, and make it painfully aware you want nothing to do with them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You mean like telling them to leave? Like the Pro Life people did? Or should they have thrown down? Tell them to leave, move away from them, put out a statement denouncing them in real time, and make it painfully aware you want nothing to do with them. That's retarded. Are you forced to denounce every stupid thing your fellow lefties do every day? Have you denounced Theo yet? |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 8:01:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ATF used to have KKK cookouts in the 90s. Yup. They also pretended to be all sorts of things. They even asked Aimless’s public enemy #1 to cut down a barrel on a shotgun while pretending to not be feds. I’m sure they had to do some sort of non-Fed things to get Randy to trust them. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 8:02:34 PM EDT
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It came from an FBI agent.
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Posted: 1/22/2022 8:06:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is a very valid fear, and why it is so important to make it clear that those kinds of people have no place here. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My fear is any conservative group (like this website) could easily have a few questionable members. Glow boys figure out who they can manipulate, then they can attack the entire group. Are there many posts on ARF in support of Patriot Front? |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 8:36:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are full of it. Too much is what a handful of times over a decade when the left organized it for a political agenda? Get real. The right does not associate with these people. These groups are trying to force association for "some reason". That association sure seems to benefit the false narrative coming out of the left, don't you think? Why is it always these little known obscure groups too? In Charlottesville an Obama voter organized some kind of white supremacists performance in the midsts of the legitimate issue of protests against cultural Marxists tearing down historical monuments. The false association worked there, because all anyone in the media talked about was that bullshit instead of the real issue. Then they lied about what Trump said over and over again. Yes yes, it's everyone else's problem. There's zero shit heads at all on our side ever. Ever. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 8:38:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's retarded. Are you forced to denounce every stupid thing your fellow lefties do every day? Have you denounced Theo yet? Not a lefty and I don't know who Theo is. My point is ignoring cancerous things have a habit of going poorly. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 8:55:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a lefty and I don't know who Theo is. My point is ignoring cancerous things have a habit of going poorly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's retarded. Are you forced to denounce every stupid thing your fellow lefties do every day? Have you denounced Theo yet? Not a lefty and I don't know who Theo is. My point is ignoring cancerous things have a habit of going poorly. No your point is stupid. Conservative's are labeled as racist and every other horrible thing every day by the media. It's not our job or responsibility to constantly defend ourselves. If some shitheads show up to a location it isn't our responsibility to immediately call all the media to denounce them because the media won't care anyway. Conservatives don't go around pointing at everyone else and screaming NOT IT, that's a Left tactic. If we do nothing the media will say we should have denounced them. If we denounce them the media will say we should have denounced them more forcefully. If we denounce them more forcefully the media will say we're just trying to cover up for something. Why worry about what the media says? Conservatives don't believe the media. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 8:59:07 PM EDT
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Sir, quick question. We have a contingency plan that we're enacting when no one takes this op seriously, right? It's the "data leak"?? Ok, on it.
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Posted: 1/22/2022 9:00:07 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No your point is stupid. Conservative's are labeled as racist and every other horrible thing every day by the media. It's not our job or responsibility to constantly defend ourselves. If some shitheads show up to a location it isn't our responsibility to immediately call all the media to denounce them because the media won't care anyway. Conservatives don't go around pointing at everyone else and screaming NOT IT, that's a Left tactic. If we do nothing the media will say we should have denounced them. If we denounce them the media will say we should have denounced them more forcefully. If we denounce them more forcefully the media will say we're just trying to cover up for something. Why worry about what the media says? Conservatives don't believe the media. Edited for clarity: Why does it work? I know you don't believe the media by why do conservative politicians or talking heads feel the need to do damage control when painted as or associated with racists? |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 9:23:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Edited for clarity: Why does it work? I know you don't believe the media by why do conservative politicians or talking heads feel the need to do damage control when painted as or associated with racists? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No your point is stupid. Conservative's are labeled as racist and every other horrible thing every day by the media. It's not our job or responsibility to constantly defend ourselves. If some shitheads show up to a location it isn't our responsibility to immediately call all the media to denounce them because the media won't care anyway. Conservatives don't go around pointing at everyone else and screaming NOT IT, that's a Left tactic. If we do nothing the media will say we should have denounced them. If we denounce them the media will say we should have denounced them more forcefully. If we denounce them more forcefully the media will say we're just trying to cover up for something. Why worry about what the media says? Conservatives don't believe the media. Edited for clarity: Why does it work? I know you don't believe the media by why do conservative politicians or talking heads feel the need to do damage control when painted as or associated with racists? |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 10:01:58 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No your point is stupid. Conservative's are labeled as racist and every other horrible thing every day by the media. It's not our job or responsibility to constantly defend ourselves. If some shitheads show up to a location it isn't our responsibility to immediately call all the media to denounce them because the media won't care anyway. Conservatives don't go around pointing at everyone else and screaming NOT IT, that's a Left tactic. If we do nothing the media will say we should have denounced them. If we denounce them the media will say we should have denounced them more forcefully. If we denounce them more forcefully the media will say we're just trying to cover up for something. Why worry about what the media says? Conservatives don't believe the media. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 10:05:02 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: because many on the left want those on the right to be racist, it makes it easier for them to justify their own racism. Ok but why does is stick to the Right more? |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 10:05:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think we could all do without this type of attitude. Not appreciated. Could you rein in the name calling etc? Please? Ad hominems usually mean a person has nothing important to say and are just reacting based on emotion. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 10:11:12 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok but why does is stick to the Right more? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: because many on the left want those on the right to be racist, it makes it easier for them to justify their own racism. Ok but why does is stick to the Right more? It doesn't. Period. Who gives a fuck what the media labels people as? The Right doesn't care what the media says. The Left controls the media so how are you shocked that the Left gets a favorable review from their own people? Do you really believe the media has any intellectual honesty? |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 10:20:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It doesn't. Period. Who gives a fuck what the media labels people as? The Right doesn't care what the media says. The Left controls the media so how are you shocked that the Left gets a favorable review from their own people? Do you really believe the media has any intellectual honesty? No, a segment of the Right doesn't believe the media. Meanwhile large chunks of society do. Even MTG ran damage control when accused of anti semitism. Bobert did the same with Islam. Why is that? |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 10:38:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, a segment of the Right doesn't believe the media. Meanwhile large chunks of society do. Even MTG ran damage control when accused of anti semitism. Bobert did the same with Islam. Why is that? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It doesn't. Period. Who gives a fuck what the media labels people as? The Right doesn't care what the media says. The Left controls the media so how are you shocked that the Left gets a favorable review from their own people? Do you really believe the media has any intellectual honesty? No, a segment of the Right doesn't believe the media. Meanwhile large chunks of society do. Even MTG ran damage control when accused of anti semitism. Bobert did the same with Islam. Why is that? You believe it so you tell us champ? |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 10:43:20 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted: I think we could all do without this type of attitude. Not appreciated. Could you rein in the name calling etc? Please? Quoted: Ad hominems usually mean a person has nothing important to say and are just reacting based on emotion. He said that the point he was trying to make was stupid, not that the poster was stupid. There is a difference. A huge one. Yet you both try to make it as if an apology is needed to continue, while insulting the other poster. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 10:44:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course not. Isolate them and get away from them. Make it apparent that you're not with them. Don't stand side by side with them. Too much really, the answer should be zero. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Do you want us to engage in violence? And how often is this again? Of course not. Isolate them and get away from them. Make it apparent that you're not with them. Don't stand side by side with them. Too much really, the answer should be zero. The only answer the left will accept is you dressing in black, painting the iron front on your helmet, and attacking anyone they label a chud. The real answer is learning to not pander to the left. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 10:49:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's lots of good reasons to avoid them, but also this above just doesn't work. You still get blamed for them just attempting to come to your event. Patriot Prayer threw Jeremy Christian out of a rally before stabbed some people on the train, he still gets cited as a "patriot prayer follower/member." The only answer the left will accept is you dressing in black, painting the iron front on your helmet, and attacking anyone they label a chud. The real answer is learning to not pander to the left. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Do you want us to engage in violence? And how often is this again? Of course not. Isolate them and get away from them. Make it apparent that you're not with them. Don't stand side by side with them. Too much really, the answer should be zero. The only answer the left will accept is you dressing in black, painting the iron front on your helmet, and attacking anyone they label a chud. The real answer is learning to not pander to the left. Oh shit. It's gonna get real now that eesmith showed up. We've already seen 1 ass whooping on video of ee taking out an antifa member. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 10:57:19 PM EDT
[#47]
 Attached FileNeo-nazis and white supremacists should be condemned totally. Your government thinks you stupid though. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 10:59:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You believe it so you tell us champ? Deflection. Nice choice. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 11:03:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He said that the point he was trying to make was stupid, not that the poster was stupid. There is a difference. A huge one. Yet you both try to make it as if an apology is needed to continue, while insulting the other poster. I don't think he needs to apologize, I think he needs to realize that sweeping generalizations and denials don't solve anything. Life is peachy when you just pretend everything is a devious plot. |
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Posted: 1/22/2022 11:05:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's lots of good reasons to avoid them, but also this above just doesn't work. You still get blamed for them just attempting to come to your event. Patriot Prayer threw Jeremy Christian out of a rally before stabbed some people on the train, he still gets cited as a "patriot prayer follower/member." The only answer the left will accept is you dressing in black, painting the iron front on your helmet, and attacking anyone they label a chud. The real answer is learning to not pander to the left. The answer isn't to pretend they don't exist and are always a false flag Fed Boi glowie. |
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