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Posted: 6/26/2022 7:18:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sure why everyone keeps saying this. They look pretty huge to me  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/75325/Screenshot_20220419-155155_Facebook-2431805.jpg  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It looks small, I thought it would be bigger. Not sure why everyone keeps saying this. They look pretty huge to me https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/75325/Screenshot_20220419-155155_Facebook-2431805.jpg Lol you go to your room right now, mister. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 7:21:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do you have a Bronco Sport? My 2021 Bronco averages about 16.6mpg. No issues and no complaints. I think so. It's got a "Big Bend" sticker on the side. I haven't checked under the hood to see what its got. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 7:23:28 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And is a great example of how Ford made a monumental marketing fuck-up. The Bronco Sport should have been named anything but Bronco Sport. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In this thread 87% of the people bitching about the new Bronco don't know the difference between the bronco sport and the bronco. And is a great example of how Ford made a monumental marketing fuck-up. The Bronco Sport should have been named anything but Bronco Sport. You do understand that marketing’s job is to sell vehicles, right? Tying that wannabe Bronco to all of the hype of the full size absolutely makes sense. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 7:27:56 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn’t the sport model the non-sporty one! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In this thread 87% of the people bitching about the new Bronco don't know the difference between the bronco sport and the bronco. Isn’t the sport model the non-sporty one! The sport model is the hood rat version. Just like polo sport, hilfiger sport, anything sport. It’s for the poors. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 7:28:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uh, the bottom one looks like a clown car? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Let's just ignore the fact you're comparing 2 different classes of vehicles which is stupid in itself. What aspect looks like a cheaply made tin can? https://i.ibb.co/FgJxvmX/Grid-Art-20220626-162703841.jpg Uh, the bottom one looks like a clown car? it looks like a modernized classic Bronco... What are you driving? |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 7:30:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That color and trim combo looks surprisingly good! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A buddy just picked up his 2 door its a 2 adults, + 2 oompaloompas ride https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3097/4503B543-727C-423E-B8E8-801D0DC9F8DD-2431871.jpg That color and trim combo looks surprisingly good! I was just gonna say how terrible the colors were. And with black wheels. Jfc that’s a travesty. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 7:31:20 PM EDT
[#7]
I don’t know 1st gens tend to frequently have major issues. I’ve had some Japanese first gens that were pretty bad.
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Posted: 6/26/2022 7:32:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL can't buy taste I suppose. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A buddy just picked up his 2 door its a 2 adults, + 2 oompaloompas ride https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3097/4503B543-727C-423E-B8E8-801D0DC9F8DD-2431871.jpg Yeah, awful. Green and tan with a black top and wheels? Guarantee the sales people were laugh their asses off once he left the showroom. “I thought there was no way in hell we’d get that one sold!” |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 7:47:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That doesn't even scratch the surface... 2.3 turbo issues, roof leaks, roof cracks, soft top seams splitting, hood misalignments, cowlings not allowing hood to open, transmission issues, rust upon delivery, various fluids not filled to required levels, air and water leaks around windows... This thing is a complete POS. NHTSA is investigating. So, just like an old-school Bronco. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 8:02:23 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: nah, it's actually superior in nearly every way. Nope I had high hopes for Ford, but they dropped the ball and made an ugly product. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 8:05:19 PM EDT
[#11]
Front tie rods, thin as a pencil, are easily snapped in two off road.
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Posted: 6/26/2022 8:19:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Failed Original Retail Delivery Fragile Outsourced Roof Drips (stolen from someone else here) |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 8:25:14 PM EDT
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You all do remember how much the 1st gen 3.5EB engines were giant turds right?
Seems like FCA and GM actually have their shit together. Only issue I can recall from them two are bad lifters, which get replaces on the GM and the 8 speed, that just needs new fluid. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 8:31:47 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Front tie rods, thin as a pencil, are easily snapped in two off road. I’m sure yours would snap too if you weren’t running p-rated 31s. The last land cruiser that could back up the “master race” business was the 80 series. Every generation since has moved closer into the large luxury SUV (Tahoe/suburban) category. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 8:55:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/26/2022 9:07:17 PM EDT
[#16]
Saw a full sized one last week on the road, they must be pretty rare because its the only one I have ever seen. Its neat.
The smaller sized ones are more common and look like shit. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 9:10:30 PM EDT
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All the cool prototypes over the years and the finished product....
Other than some cool off road modes for those who actually would use them... I would have to say the hype did not live up to the product delivered as is. I'm glad its out, but I was hoping for a little more true to form mixed with with today's tech. But.....that may not have been Ford's vision to begin with. Nice to see them. Glad people are happy, just not for me. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 9:15:38 PM EDT
[#18]
Recent Ford Explorer launch cost many executives their jobs
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Posted: 6/26/2022 9:16:18 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryC&D also praises Kia and Hyundai... |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 9:30:49 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: C&D also praises Kia and Hyundai... Do they make a Bronco? |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 9:30:56 PM EDT
[#21]
Mines pretty tits. Zero issues so far.
22 Badlands with Sasquatch, high package, and 2.7. Soft top is fantastic functionally speaking, the hard top does look better though. 
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Posted: 6/26/2022 9:32:54 PM EDT
[#22]
A friend of mine bought one a few months ago. He loves the thing. I'm putting a 3.5" lift in it tomorrow at work.
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Posted: 6/26/2022 9:40:13 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My daily drive is a 2012 Pathfinder. It was the last year Nissan built it on a truck frame. The following years were crossover vehicles. The new 2022 Pathfinder is once again on a truck frame. I'll wait until reviews and feedback is in, but I may consider a 2023. This makes me happy. I love the look of the new Pathfinder and the owner of an early build one said the 8-speed transmission was awesome. I was afraid they kept the old structure. My ex had a 4-dr Bronco and is ambivalent. There’s a reason she’s my ex…  TC |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 9:40:14 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That doesn't even scratch the surface... 2.3 turbo issues, roof leaks, roof cracks, soft top seams splitting, hood misalignments, cowlings not allowing hood to open, transmission issues, rust upon delivery, various fluids not filled to required levels, air and water leaks around windows... This thing is a complete POS. NHTSA is investigating. Fucking lol. Okay. A couple reports apparently means they all have issues. You see the complaints because people who are happy don’t usually post the positive experiences. The amount of issues are tiny in comparison to the amount of happy buyers. NHTSA is investigating because it was pushed by small amount of engine failures. No other reason |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 9:43:23 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't and will never own a Bronco. I'm a member of the Land Cruiser master race. Yeah. And I can get a 2018 Land Cruiser with 50k mi or a brand new G-Wagon. Damn you Land Cruiser afficionados! TC |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 9:45:57 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, awful. Green and tan with a black top and wheels? Guarantee the sales people were laugh their asses off once he left the showroom. “I thought there was no way in hell we’d get that one sold!” Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: A buddy just picked up his 2 door its a 2 adults, + 2 oompaloompas ride https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/3097/4503B543-727C-423E-B8E8-801D0DC9F8DD-2431871.jpg Yeah, awful. Green and tan with a black top and wheels? Guarantee the sales people were laugh their asses off once he left the showroom. “I thought there was no way in hell we’d get that one sold!” It’s retro, Jethro. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 9:48:28 PM EDT
[#27]
depends on the model/trim line. the mid and above look pretty good. base models are like retarded step children
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Posted: 6/26/2022 9:48:35 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That color and trim combo looks surprisingly good! Eddie Bauer Edition? Or, L.L. Bean?  TC |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 9:54:24 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This, i only buy quality Mopar products. There's no such thing ! |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 9:54:41 PM EDT
[#30]
I wanted a Bronco bad, but their wokeness put me to sleep, so a built out 4Runner or GX460 will be my next vehicle, which sucks because I really wanted a removable top, but Ford and Jeep are both woke.
I’d rather have no wind blowing through my hair, than the wind of a man with no principles. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 10:01:30 PM EDT
[#31]
My SIL bought one and loves it. Within a week of buying it they drove from GA to the Grand Canyon. That was last year. They leave for Niagara Falls on Wednesday. They haven't had any issues. I would never buy the initial year of production of any manufacturer.
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Posted: 6/26/2022 10:02:29 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It looks small, I thought it would be bigger. That’s what she said. Damnit. Beat pages ago. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 10:12:21 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s retro, Jethro. Oh, well that clears it up as to why it’s fucking ugly, |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 10:16:47 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, well that clears it up as to why it’s fucking ugly, Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It’s retro, Jethro. Oh, well that clears it up as to why it’s fucking ugly, I mean, you’re not wrong.  There were some uggo color schemes and decals back in the day. Ferd’s been trying hard to harness nostalgia with the Broncos and by and large, doing a pretty good job of it IMHO. Some of it’s awesome, this is middle of the road, and I’ve seen really bad versions. It is what it is. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 10:47:51 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Fucking lol. Okay. A couple reports apparently means they all have issues. You see the complaints because people who are happy don’t usually post the positive experiences. The amount of issues are tiny in comparison to the amount of happy buyers. NHTSA is investigating because it was pushed by small amount of engine failures. No other reason Way more than a couple. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 10:53:40 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Eddie Bauer Edition? Or, L.L. Bean? TC Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That color and trim combo looks surprisingly good! Eddie Bauer Edition? Or, L.L. Bean? TC No clue! But to me it looks retro 60's/70's, a color combo I never thought I would see on a new vehicle. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 10:54:01 PM EDT
[#37]
Bronco bronco, or the escape bronco?
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Posted: 6/26/2022 10:54:14 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Eddie Bauer Edition? Or, L.L. Bean? TC I'm waiting for the Bill Blass edition... 
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Posted: 6/26/2022 11:02:08 PM EDT
[#39]
I wouldn’t have bout the first year of a covid car that is for damn sure.
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Posted: 6/26/2022 11:14:24 PM EDT
[#40]
I went wheeling with a guy who had a new Sasquatch Bronco, and it absolutely slayed. It beat a couple decently modded FJCs and 4Runners in the group and one JKUS on 35s. It didn't beat my Rubi, but mine has a ton of good mods and it's on 37s. But the Bronco earned all our respect. Very impressive for IFS.
The difference maker was the locking front diff. I'd say it's more important than even a solid front axle up front. It would surely beat a non-modded 200 LC on any trail. The bronco might not go 400k miles, but it will win in the trails against anything but a rubicon Jeep or a SAS'ed rig/trailer shitbox. Side note: the Broncos that seem to be bending tie rods are all on 35s or larger. It's just too much tire for an IFS steering system. I know a guy with a REALLY modded FJ Cruiser on 39s who put the LC200 series R&P on it and he's still blowing through tie rods. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 11:17:29 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not that it is an issue but the pathfinder has been a unibody for 20 years. Usually when someone says a truck frame they mean body on frame. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My daily drive is a 2012 Pathfinder. It was the last year Nissan built it on a truck frame. The following years were crossover vehicles. The new 2022 Pathfinder is once again on a truck frame. I'll wait until reviews and feedback is in, but I may consider a 2023. Not that it is an issue but the pathfinder has been a unibody for 20 years. Usually when someone says a truck frame they mean body on frame. Yep. Nissan's website says the Pathfinder is FWD or AWD so I doubt it is back to body on frame. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 11:20:27 PM EDT
[#42]
Not a problem one with the wife's Bronco. Picked it up last August.
 Attached FileOf course, all you're reading about are issies that people post. Not many people like us go post about not having issues. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 11:21:06 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I tried to buy a 2021 bronco and they wouldn’t let me. I’m having trouble buying a 2022 model. I might get a 2023. 
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Posted: 6/26/2022 11:43:37 PM EDT
[#44]
Lol. Just got to the part where OP drives a land cruiser.
 I'm out of this thread. Reliable  
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Posted: 6/26/2022 11:43:53 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I went wheeling with a guy who had a new Sasquatch Bronco, and it absolutely slayed. It beat a couple decently modded FJCs and 4Runners in the group and one JKUS on 35s. It didn't beat my Rubi, but mine has a ton of good mods and it's on 37s. But the Bronco earned all our respect. Very impressive for IFS. The difference maker was the locking front diff. I'd say it's more important than even a solid front axle up front. It would surely beat a non-modded 200 LC on any trail. The bronco might not go 400k miles, but it will win in the trails against anything but a rubicon Jeep or a SAS'ed rig/trailer shitbox. Side note: the Broncos that seem to be bending tie rods are all on 35s or larger. It's just too much tire for an IFS steering system. I know a guy with a REALLY modded FJ Cruiser on 39s who put the LC200 series R&P on it and he's still blowing through tie rods. The Land Cruiser was never intended to be a rock crawler. It's an overlander. What vehicle would you trust to drive through the African bush or the outback in Australia, a Land Cruiser or Bronco??? |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 11:46:15 PM EDT
[#46]
I havent even driven one yet.
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Posted: 6/26/2022 11:48:18 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Side note: the Broncos that seem to be bending tie rods are all on 35s or larger. It's just too much tire for an IFS steering system. I know a guy with a REALLY modded FJ Cruiser on 39s who put the LC200 series R&P on it and he's still blowing through tie rods. I knew that was going to be common before it was ever released, and 35s are stock tires lol |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 11:52:08 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Land Cruiser was never intended to be a rock crawler. It's an overlander. What vehicle would you trust to drive through the African bush or the outback in Australia, a Land Cruiser or Bronco??? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I went wheeling with a guy who had a new Sasquatch Bronco, and it absolutely slayed. It beat a couple decently modded FJCs and 4Runners in the group and one JKUS on 35s. It didn't beat my Rubi, but mine has a ton of good mods and it's on 37s. But the Bronco earned all our respect. Very impressive for IFS. The difference maker was the locking front diff. I'd say it's more important than even a solid front axle up front. It would surely beat a non-modded 200 LC on any trail. The bronco might not go 400k miles, but it will win in the trails against anything but a rubicon Jeep or a SAS'ed rig/trailer shitbox. Side note: the Broncos that seem to be bending tie rods are all on 35s or larger. It's just too much tire for an IFS steering system. I know a guy with a REALLY modded FJ Cruiser on 39s who put the LC200 series R&P on it and he's still blowing through tie rods. The Land Cruiser was never intended to be a rock crawler. It's an overlander. What vehicle would you trust to drive through the African bush or the outback in Australia, a Land Cruiser or Bronco??? The FJ40 certainly was, and the rest up to the 80 were as well. Triple-locked diffs aren't on older LCs for dusty rutted roads. This argument always amuses me because, even in overlanding, you run into lots of rocks. Sometimes pretty substantial ones. Later model land cruisers have terrible approach/breakover/departure. That shit can get you stuck as bad as breaking a part will. About your question, I would pick the land cruiser but not because of performance. Strictly because I might have a prayer at finding a spare part somewhere in africa. Something is bound to break on both of them. If there were tons of ranger platform parts out there I'd call it a 50/50 tossup. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 11:58:54 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I knew that was going to be common before it was ever released, and 35s are stock tires lol Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Side note: the Broncos that seem to be bending tie rods are all on 35s or larger. It's just too much tire for an IFS steering system. I know a guy with a REALLY modded FJ Cruiser on 39s who put the LC200 series R&P on it and he's still blowing through tie rods. I knew that was going to be common before it was ever released, and 35s are stock tires lol Apparently you can stuff 37s on them with no cutting. |
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Posted: 6/26/2022 11:59:02 PM EDT
[#50]
Ford really screwed up naming that little SUV Bronco at all. They should have left Bronco alone and named the small ones something else. They did the same thing on the Mustang.
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