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Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:16:20 AM EST
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It's not the bike, it's the rider...

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He's more leaning, rather than weaving, and the speed is not shown.  Geez, do we have any real riders on AFRCOM that immediately know what gyrscopic effect is, and counter-steering?  One cannot pass the MSF class without being trained and demonstrating it.

I can lean too, to the point where my floor boards scrap the pavement.  
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:17:09 AM EST
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There was a sportbike rider here killed a few days ago. He was blasting through traffic, passing in the bicycle lanes when a truck made a legal turn...SPLAT!

The next night they interviewed a bunch of Harley riders for some reason talking about how his family didn't deserve to read all the negative things posted about him on social media.

He was riding with no license, no ID, at a high rate of speed on a crowded road. He decided the law didn't apply to him, however physics won that argument.

Just cleaned a little bit of the rampant dumbass out of the gene poll. Hopefully he didn't breed before he killed himself.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:18:29 AM EST
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He's more leaning, rather than weaving, and the speed is not shown.  Geez, do we have any real riders on AFRCOM that immediately know what gyrscopic effect is, and counter-steering?  One cannot pass the MSF class without being trained and demonstrating it.
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We do, and we those of us that ride know that you can overcome one with the other to some degree, as long as you have the lean angle to make it work.
Nobody said the pirate in the OP was diving in and out of lanes.  It doesn't take much effort to half-lane split and cut people off.

And the gyroscopic effect of a set of spoked Harley wheels isn't any different than other bikes with similar wheel/tire weight.
This obviously doesn't apply to bigwheels with massive billet centers and a 300 rear tire.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:18:35 AM EST
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Now I'm an ex rider and I'd like to know when the majority of you guys went suicidal?

Can anybody tell me why so many seem to crowd the center line to the point of their left hand hanging over into the oncoming lane?

You have a whole lane boys. Why crowd the center?
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Some crap about avoiding debris on the road edge, cars pulling out, or some nonsense. They apparently would rather have a head on collision with an oncoming vehicle.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:30:12 AM EST
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Some crap about avoiding debris on the road edge, cars pulling out, or some nonsense. They apparently would rather have a head on collision with an oncoming vehicle.
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I can tell you that from riding motorcycle, the center of the road seems to wear out a lot slower than the outside. The outside seems to get patches and very small potholes much quicker - both of which make the bike want to wander.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:31:03 AM EST
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My ride...automatic bike. I can't speed if my life depends on it.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:35:52 AM EST
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Harley Fags HATE my German made, spaceship looking motorcycle. They do not wave at me and I do not wave at them. Just the way I like it.

Well, then there's my hi-vis jacket and helmet that they hate too..... 

Haters hate I guess. 

Oh, side note. I've converted two of my Harley friends over to new GSA's in the last 6 months. It's funny to hear them bad mouth their old bikes. They also won't wave at Harley guys either.  
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:37:48 AM EST
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Organ donors...
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Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:37:49 AM EST
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Some crap about avoiding debris on the road edge, cars pulling out, or some nonsense. They apparently would rather have a head on collision with an oncoming vehicle.
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Just trying to emulate texting drivers who drift their tires over the centerline.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:37:58 AM EST
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I rode and commuted daily on a sport bike / sport tourer for years. I don't melt and I had gear so I was riding it 9 out of 12 months. (33 degrees is my limit. Black ice on a bridge overpass will wake you right the fuck up at 6:30am).

Here's what I learned - there are douchebags of all flavors riding all types of motorcycles. But since purely by the numbers - since there are more cars on the road - there is a much larger proportion of douchebag / idiot car / truck drivers.

I've had a hot young blonde (got a REALLY CLOSE look at here) in a Beemer, more interested in her phone that driving and decided to occupy the left lane - WITH ME IN IT - at 70+ mph, then freaked out when she apparently thought I was passing her on the shoulder? Entire thing witnessed by a guy driving a pick up behind me. He got off at the same exit I did and when I stopped for gas he pulled in behind me.  Told me his camera in his truck was recording it and he couldn't believe it was happening.

In the "good old days" if some idiot cut me off, I just figured he or she was being an asshole. Sadly now, 90% of the time the driver isn't being an asshole, they just aren't paying attention worth a damn.

There are plenty of idiots riding around on $25K custom choppers around here who literally can't ride for SHIT. Like wobbling trying to turn left from a stop. There are some idiot sportbike riders, but mainly they just think a chrome nazi helmet is gear, and stretched swingarms make bikes "handle" better or shit like that.

It literally got to be that my commute was more "exciting" than a track day. 
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:40:24 AM EST
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Show us on the doll where you want the bad biker to touched you...

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Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:41:49 AM EST
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I try not to be misogynist, but every single time I've had a close call with a vehicle pulling out in front of me or merging into me, it's been a woman driver.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:45:48 AM EST
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Back in the late 80's I had a dip shit on a motorcycle brake-check me when I was driving a F-250 diesel. Some folks just don't think things through.
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I hope that it didn't do too much damage to your truck.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:46:43 AM EST
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At least he's not near the center line.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:48:19 AM EST
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On Sunday I was behind a guy in a Ferrai with VA tags doing just that on some twisties in Monroe County WV.

Sad thing wasn't even ten over the caution sign but still felt the need to bore through over the SYL

I just hung back waiting for the carnage. Thankfully he turned off after a few miles.

Gratuitous Power Ranger Scooter pic from that day

Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:48:34 AM EST
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I try not to be misogynist, but every single time I've had a close call with a vehicle pulling out in front of me or merging into me, it's been a woman driver.
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Sadly, it is mostly women who text and drive.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:53:12 AM EST
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Sadly, it is mostly women who text and drive.
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Lots of people do.  I see it all the time when riding.  


I had one sit through a green light the other day finishing their text despite me honking at them to go.  To add insult to injury, they took off just in time to get through after the light turned red and left me behind.  I was fuming the rest of the day.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:55:04 AM EST
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"Watch out for me while I dress like a ninja. It's your fault if you don't see me in my night camoflauge".
My bike is black AND camo

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Yep, but yours is cool looking and you probably don't dress like the gimp when you ride it.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:56:04 AM EST
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GD will explode if Pitt bulls ever start riding Harley's to McDonalds while packing .40 Highpoints in an Uncle Mikes holster they bought at Walmart
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:56:57 AM EST
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While plenty of people do stupid things on bikes, 4-wheelers as a group have NO room to talk about how much their shit don't stink.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:59:00 AM EST
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On Sunday I was behind a guy in a Ferrai with VA tags doing just that on some twisties in Monroe County WV.

Sad thing wasn't even ten over the caution sign but still felt the need to bore through over the SYL

I just hung back waiting for the carnage. Thankfully he turned off after a few miles.

Gratuitous Power Ranger Scooter pic from that day
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Few years back.  Note the breathtaking speeds

Link Posted: 8/8/2017 10:59:07 AM EST
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GD will explode if Pitt bulls ever start riding Harley's to McDonalds while packing .40 Highpoints in an Uncle Mikes holster they bought at Walmart
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The rare Brad Pitt bull.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 11:00:08 AM EST
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Lots of people do.  I see it all the time when riding.  


I had one sit through a green light the other day finishing their text despite me honking at them to go.  To add insult to injury, they took off just in time to get through after the light turned red and left me behind.  I was fuming the rest of the day.
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LOL, had to make me wrong even when I was agreeing with you? man, I love GD.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 11:01:28 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/8/2017 11:02:33 AM EST
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Some of us are bike only and don't dress like pirates.
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Aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrggh.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 11:06:25 AM EST
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Or overheat.
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Guys with Harleys have to go fast so they can get to where they need to be before the bike breaks down.
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Link Posted: 8/8/2017 11:06:31 AM EST
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I think mine will hit 60 in second gear, but haven't been able to ride it in a couple of years due to health issues.  Tops out at like 115 or 120, but gets there really, really fast.  V-Rod Muscle.
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According to The Faithful, anything Revolution-engined is NOT a "Harley" - regardless of what's on the tank or the title.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 11:08:24 AM EST
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Now I'm an ex rider and I'd like to know when the majority of you guys went suicidal?

Can anybody tell me why so many seem to crowd the center line to the point of their left hand hanging over into the oncoming lane?

You have a whole lane boys. Why crowd the center?
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Hanging the handlebars over the line is a dick move.

On highways I ride in the left side of the lane.  Keeps me in direct line of sight of any driver behind me and gives me more room to move if an emergency occurs (road debris, animal on the road etc).
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 11:08:41 AM EST
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I try not to be misogynist, but every single time I've had a close call with a vehicle pulling out in front of me or merging into me, it's been a woman driver.
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I never said anything, but my girlfriend has figured that exact thing out.  Whenever she's on the back, and we have a close call or someone clearly not paying attention, it's a chick.  Usually in a compact SUV or Mini Cooper.  She's cut down the texting and driving big time now that she's seen what it's like on 2 wheels.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 11:08:50 AM EST
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Somebody NEEDS to paint that ASAP!
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 11:12:59 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/8/2017 11:15:19 AM EST
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He's more leaning, rather than weaving, and the speed is not shown.  Geez, do we have any real riders on AFRCOM that immediately know what gyrscopic effect is, and counter-steering?  One cannot pass the MSF class without being trained and demonstrating it.

I can lean too, to the point where my floor boards scrap the pavement.  
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It's not the bike, it's the rider...

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He's more leaning, rather than weaving, and the speed is not shown.  Geez, do we have any real riders on AFRCOM that immediately know what gyrscopic effect is, and counter-steering?  One cannot pass the MSF class without being trained and demonstrating it.

I can lean too, to the point where my floor boards scrap the pavement.  
Gyroscopic effect is not what makes a motorcycle want to travel in a straight line. It's a small factor but 2 wheeled vehicles designed to have no significant gyroscopic forces still self stabilize.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 11:21:53 AM EST
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If you want to see harley douchebaggery at it's finest, try living in South Dakota this time of year...
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I believe that.  We just got back from SD, MT, WY, and ID.  Douchebags everywhere.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 11:27:58 AM EST
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There are a number of reasons why, but I'll let you keep guessing like a dumbass.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 11:29:13 AM EST
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Few years back.  Note the breathtaking speeds

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Bad driver is Bad. Donate your Corvette and buy a Yugo.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 11:29:13 AM EST
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Hanging the handlebars over the line is a dick move.

On highways I ride in the left side of the lane.  Keeps me in direct line of sight of any driver behind me and gives me more room to move if an emergency occurs (road debris, animal on the road etc).
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Back when I rode, I based everything off the dark center of the lane.

The darker area can be slick as road film builds up with no tires running there much so I always rode just off the dark area on either side but when approaching oncoming traffic, I'd usually get on the right side just to be somewhat defensive to the oncoming 2 ton chunk of metal.

But that's just me.

I think that many riders today don't have any background like most of us had back then. We learned to ride in the dirt and mud which gives you experience at handling a bike when unexpected things happen.

From the attitude I see displayed by many these days, I'm gonna guess they've never had a close encounter with the dirt, much less the blacktop.

It'll be a lesson learned hard when Murphy visits them.    
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 11:33:41 AM EST
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Gyroscopic effect is not what makes a motorcycle want to travel in a straight line. It's a small factor but 2 wheeled vehicles designed to have no significant gyroscopic forces still self stabilize.
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Yes, I believe it's the caster that makes turning wheels want to track straight on cars on bikes.  

There is also some kind of physics phenomenon going on in the tracking of the front and rear wheels on a bike/motorcycle that makes it want to travel straight.  

However I belive that the bike stiffening up and resisting turning more as the speed builds is indeed from the gyroscopic effect of the wheels and engine spinning.

When you countersteer you are actually making the bike fall toward the side you want to turn.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 11:37:43 AM EST
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I could have sworn today was Tuesday?
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 11:43:40 AM EST
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he beat me to my Thursday biker hate thread. Man wait till Thursday like everyone else.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 11:44:23 AM EST
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Um.....it is.    
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 11:55:17 AM EST
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Although, maybe not perfectly written, I find the scenario completely plausible.  I have witnessed similar douche-baggery while riding. Coincidentally I was on a Honda CBR1000 owned by the motor company (company owned bench-marking bike doing ABS comparisons).

Said douche-bag on his bad ass custom, almost clipped me when he lane split to pass me in a 25 mph zone.
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Next time you decide to embellish your motorcycle story, ride one first.  Then you would know what not to embellish so the story stays plausible.
Although, maybe not perfectly written, I find the scenario completely plausible.  I have witnessed similar douche-baggery while riding. Coincidentally I was on a Honda CBR1000 owned by the motor company (company owned bench-marking bike doing ABS comparisons).

Said douche-bag on his bad ass custom, almost clipped me when he lane split to pass me in a 25 mph zone.
Same. There is a local one here that runs up and down main street on his ape hanger Darwin scooter flipping off everyone and revving his engine like an idiot. Has one of those black vests with the names on the back.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 12:01:28 PM EST
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This isn't the 80s anymore.
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Guys with Harleys have to go fast so they can get to where they need to be before the bike breaks down.
This isn't the 80s anymore.
Exactly. So why Harley still uses 80s tech is anyone's guess.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 12:03:32 PM EST
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Klingmans Dome?
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Pounding Mill, near Brevard, NC.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 12:05:34 PM EST
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Bad driver is Bad. Donate your Corvette and buy a Yugo.
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A few seconds slower and he would have been in the side of that horse trailer...
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 12:06:04 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/8/2017 12:08:52 PM EST
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Silly Harley is flat out, proper bike behind is hardly even warming up his tyres
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True, just pointing out that they will still go around a corner at faster than duck-walk pace if you don't load them down with curb-feeler hard bags and pull your head out of your butt.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 12:09:09 PM EST
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According to The Faithful, anything Revolution-engined is NOT a "Harley" - regardless of what's on the tank or the title.
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I think mine will hit 60 in second gear, but haven't been able to ride it in a couple of years due to health issues.  Tops out at like 115 or 120, but gets there really, really fast.  V-Rod Muscle.
According to The Faithful, anything Revolution-engined is NOT a "Harley" - regardless of what's on the tank or the title.
Don't really care, I'm a V-Rod fan more than a HD fan.  And now what I really want to do is sell the V-Rod and get some little puddle jumper for puttering around town...my wrists don't allow for much more than that anymore.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 12:10:58 PM EST
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Few years back.  Note the breathtaking speeds

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On Sunday I was behind a guy in a Ferrai with VA tags doing just that on some twisties in Monroe County WV.

Sad thing wasn't even ten over the caution sign but still felt the need to bore through over the SYL

I just hung back waiting for the carnage. Thankfully he turned off after a few miles.

Gratuitous Power Ranger Scooter pic from that day
Few years back.  Note the breathtaking speeds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xTlU8Xz5EE
I miss running that mountain on my bike.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 12:15:07 PM EST
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I miss running that mountain on my bike.
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276 is falling apart , my Husky soaks it up a lot better than a sportbike.
Link Posted: 8/8/2017 12:29:27 PM EST
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276 is falling apart , my Husky soaks it up a lot better than a sportbike.
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I ran it hard when I was younger. I had a yzf R6 but also borrowed  bikes from my employer at that time who had touring sport BMW in Greenville.  We had Aprilia tuonos and Mille Rs at that time on top of BMW. My favorite mountain bike was the little BMW fs650 though.  Just a sweet little machine for forest running.
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