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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:05:21 PM EDT
[#1]
If Ziminski was put on the witness stand, and the defense asked him a question like “Did you start any fires on the night of August 25th?"
If he gave any answer other than “I wish to assert my 5th amendment rights,” then that could later be used against him at his arson trial, right? Or if he said during the current Rittenhouse trial something like “The sky was red during the day of August 25th.” Then later during his arson trial if he was stupid enough to take the stand and said something like “The sky was blue on August 25th, “ then a good prosecutor would say “During the Rittenhouse trial, you said the sky was red. Now you are saying it was blue. Were you lying to us then or are you lying to us now?" |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:05:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:06:31 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven't been currently certified in years, but I didn't just forget it all when I stopped working for an ambulance service. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Besides, you can be an "acting " EMT without the certs, within limits of training or knowledge <---expired Red Cross CPR/AED Basic First Aid Instructor....I keep med bags around. It's easier in an emergency situation to say "EMT" or "medic" than all that other stuff. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:06:31 PM EDT
[#4]
I don't know how anyone could watch this trial and not hate the ADA.
This guy is so unethical, dishonest, etc. He's literally seeking injustice. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:06:32 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Kyle's mother about to appear on Hannity. The witness Hernandez was on Tucker earlier tonight. He was talking about getting harassed already online due to his testimony. The comments posted here from twitter saying she was 'faking it' were apalling. 
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:06:37 PM EDT
[#6]
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The technician's workflow [stabilization, levels, enlargement via an unstated method, etc] resulted in a presumably clear image of what was on the sign. How does that compare to what the sign looks like in real life? |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:06:47 PM EDT
[#7]
Imagine that! ^^^^^
A hyphenated last name. That’s a shocker. 
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:07:38 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ladies and Gentlemen!!! Start your engines!!!! Prepare to get your blood......... BOILING!!!!! https://i.postimg.cc/Kvfp0dkv/256448740-4844127372299277-7422056600198957225-n.png |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:07:59 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Still catching up from this afternoon. What did the youtube/journalist from today say in regards to rosenrosenbong being a pedo? I don't think he said anything about that. He did say Kyle was de-escalating situations, not being a threat to anyone and pedo attacked him. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:09:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:09:59 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This reminds me of the Brady Bunch episode where Greg kept blowing up a picture he took of a football game, where a completed pass was said to be out of bounds. Remember that one? They kept enlarging it and enlarging it and, in the finished pic, you could see the fucking blades of grass and every detail of the player's foot! That's how absurd this whole thing is! And, as unbelievable. @Former11BRAVO Well was he out??
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:12:04 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryAllowing the persecution to add new charges this far into the case when the defense hasn't had any chance to prepare arguments or call witnesses to refute the charges is absolute bullshit. Of course the judge has allowed the prosecution to get away with everything short of taking a shit on his bench so I can't see him stopping it. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:12:08 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ASU has had an online Bachalor's program for a few years now, since well before the COVID BS. 100% online for multiple majors. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What happened with the Grayslake police & the ballistic vest & AZ university enrollment? Heard it brought up but couldn't watch whole trial or read all of this thread to find out. I'm guessing Kyle meant University of Phoenix, a well known online school, and mistakenly called it AZ U or U of AZ (don't remember what he said). ASU has had an online Bachalor's program for a few years now, since well before the COVID BS. 100% online for multiple majors. Correct. I considered them for my Master's degree but end up staying local |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:12:49 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What’s worse in this thread? Doomers or “fbi strobe on everyone” posters? The worst are the "he shouldn't have been there" crowd. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:12:58 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ASU has had an online Bachalor's program for a few years now, since well before the COVID BS. 100% online for multiple majors. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What happened with the Grayslake police & the ballistic vest & AZ university enrollment? Heard it brought up but couldn't watch whole trial or read all of this thread to find out. I'm guessing Kyle meant University of Phoenix, a well known online school, and mistakenly called it AZ U or U of AZ (don't remember what he said). ASU has had an online Bachalor's program for a few years now, since well before the COVID BS. 100% online for multiple majors. AZCENTRAL… Kyle Rittenhouse, who is on trial for shooting three men, two of whom died, during protests in Kenosha, Wisconsin, last summer, revealed an Arizona connection on Wednesday during his testimony. Rittenhouse, 18, said on the stand that he is a college student at Arizona State University studying nursing. ASU confirmed that Rittenhouse enrolled as a non-degree-seeking online student for the session that started in mid-October of this year. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:13:01 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not an expert, but it should be telling they did not call Ziminski to testify that Kyle pointed an AR15 at him I didn’t follow the pre-trial rulings to know whether there was a reason they couldn’t call them and don’t know Wisconsin’s law on making absent witness arguments, but if it’s permitted if I were Kyle’s lawyers I would be making the argument that the jurors should assume that the reason the State is relying on this blurry picture instead of calling Joshua Ziminski as a witness is because Ziminski’s testimony would not support the prosecution’s theory. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:13:20 PM EDT
[#17]
I don’t suppose the defense attorney took a still photograph of the Jump Kick guy and showed it to GG while he was on the witness stand and asked :
1. Do you know who this person is? 2. Had you ever talked with this person, before, during, or after Mr. Rittenhouse turned your arm into hamburger? 3. Had you ever texted with this person or received texts from this person? |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:13:56 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The technician's workflow [stabilization, levels, enlargement via an unstated method, etc] resulted in a presumably clear image of what was on the sign. How does that compare to what the sign looks like in real life? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Uploading another video. I cannot match this still frame to anything close in the video. This submitted picture shows a pretty clear left handed weaver style stance, and I just don't see it anywhere. I don't want to say it's a fake doctored photo, but I'm not seeing it in the video. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD8qOFQXIAUHEF9?format=jpg&name=medium Uh, The first unaltered picture sure looks like a random person who could have a black rifle slung across his chest, maybe. The photoshopped abomination doesn't even show that. I can't believe that is admissible as any form of evidence. The defense is going to rip that crap to shreds. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:15:18 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know how anyone could watch this trial and not hate the ADA. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:15:54 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The technician's workflow [stabilization, levels, enlargement via an unstated method, etc] resulted in a presumably clear image of what was on the sign. How does that compare to what the sign looks like in real life?  |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:15:57 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know how anyone could watch this trial and not hate the ADA. This guy is so unethical, dishonest, etc. He's literally seeking injustice. I'm hoping a fair portion of the jury feels the same way.
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:16:31 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The fact there is any doubt about the case or it even got brought to trial means we're truly fucked. The state is completely corrupt and out of control. If they'll do this to a 17 year old kid, imagine what they'll do to you. They'll do this to anyone. If they come back with guilty, God help us. all they are doing with the Rittenhouse and J6 crowd is purely for intimidation for the future. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:16:34 PM EDT
[#23]
So closing arguments are Monday, what is happening tomorrow?
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:18:12 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been sprayed. It would be better if kyle could spray him over a car or something to give the stuff a few seconds to start working. Once it started working, that would be the end of that and kyle could walk back to the gas station. Rosenbaum caused this whole thing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Have you ever been pepper sprayed? I recommend you have someone spray you, no joke. It doesn’t incapacitate instantly (it might, might not), and it doesn’t make an attacker disappear in a puff of smoke. It does affect vision, making it easier to escape an assailant, but that doesn’t help if they’re in the escape path. Pepper spray is a great tool, but not nearly as versatile as you’d imagine. It’s perfect for dissuading a semi-committed attacker, and bears. For Kyle’s situation, it might have made the beat down he was going to get even worse. I've been sprayed. It would be better if kyle could spray him over a car or something to give the stuff a few seconds to start working. Once it started working, that would be the end of that and kyle could walk back to the gas station. Rosenbaum caused this whole thing. Kyle had been sprayed, it's a favorite antifa tactic, and I'm surprised no one sprayed him as he fled. They think it's a perfectly justified form of violence to use against anyone who disagrees with them. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:18:17 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So closing arguments are Monday, what is happening tomorrow? I think it's just the judge and the lawyers going over motions and the jury instructions. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:18:56 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Expel that cunt from Congress for being too stupid even for them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ladies and Gentlemen!!! Start your engines!!!! Prepare to get your blood......... BOILING!!!!! https://i.postimg.cc/Kvfp0dkv/256448740-4844127372299277-7422056600198957225-n.png LOL. She said "He shot and killed 2 people who had assembled to affirm the value, dignity, and worth of black lives". I guess she hasn't seen the video of the half-pint pedo yelling "shoot me, n*gger" over & over. I guess she isn't aware that while peaceful protestors were trying to have their message heard, he was undermining their efforts just to burn and break shit. Does she really think this guy was there to support their cause? Does she really think he did anything but hurt it? Meanwhile Kyle was providing medical aid to protestors, cleaning obscene graffiti from public buildings, and protecting businesses owned by people of color. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:18:59 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So closing arguments are Monday, what is happening tomorrow? Attorneys and the judge are working out charges and jury instructions. ETA: And I think the Asian food will arrive by then. They didn’t order enough for all 18 jurors. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:20:59 PM EDT
[#28]
Not Everyone Understands Why Judge Schroeder Is So Mad
 Not Everyone Understands Why Judge Schroeder Is So Mad ETA: May have posted this earlier. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:21:19 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: <---expired Red Cross CPR/AED Basic First Aid Instructor....I keep med bags around. It's easier in an emergency situation to say "EMT" or "medic" than all that other stuff. American Heart Association Heart Saver/AED, First Aid Practitioner on scene |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:21:49 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know how anyone could watch this trial and not hate the ADA. This guy is so unethical, dishonest, etc. He's literally seeking injustice. So is the mob. They're begging to have basic human rights stripped away to affirm a false political narrative. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:22:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:22:26 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven't been currently certified in years, but I didn't just forget it all when I stopped working for an ambulance service. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Besides, you can be an "acting " EMT without the certs, within limits of training or knowledge At that point you work under the provisions of whatever good samaritan laws exist in the state. My EMT expired years ago but I know how to use every tool in my jump kit, evaluate, treat, package, and transport a patient. AFAIK however my current WFA cert defines my level of training, legally. TBH the boundaries are always a little vague when we discuss them in classes. I think hte good samaritan laws are designed and enforced with a lot of leniency (gross negligence standard of harm) to avoid discouraging people from helping. I still stop at car accidents and render aid, these days in an urban area that's an antiquated notion. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:22:35 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am not saying Kyle was a soldier, but look how many times one would looking through an optic at noises or movements. As a hunter I would do that often. It is no different than looking through mirrors when you are driving. It is a non issue for those that have the ability to be rational/logical |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:22:51 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Expel that cunt from Congress for being too stupid even for them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ladies and Gentlemen!!! Start your engines!!!! Prepare to get your blood......... BOILING!!!!! https://i.postimg.cc/Kvfp0dkv/256448740-4844127372299277-7422056600198957225-n.png After he's acquitted, he should sue her for libel. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:22:56 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Will the closing arguments be held tomorrow? Monday morning they have an hour of jury instruction then each side gets 2.5 hours of closing much to the judge's displeasure. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:23:48 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That would also explain why the Photog received visits from the FBI and the ATF at both his home and at work. The Feds want to know if the Photog’s pics happen to capture any people, especially the never identified Jump Kick guy, wearing infrared strobes.  Antifa use Software Defined Radio on battery powered raspberry pi sbc’s. Probably linked right into their handlers, whoever they are *cough*. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:25:02 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm failing to understand how the supposed video of pointing with the rifle earlier has any impact on the self defense determination. WI 939.48 (2) Provocation affects the privilege of self-defense as follows: (a) A person who engages in unlawful conduct of a type likely to provoke others to attack him or her and thereby does provoke an attack is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense against such attack, except when the attack which ensues is of a type causing the person engaging in the unlawful conduct to reasonably believe that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm. In such a case, the person engaging in the unlawful conduct is privileged to act in self-defense, but the person is not privileged to resort to the use of force intended or likely to cause death to the person's assailant unless the person reasonably believes he or she has exhausted every other reasonable means to escape from or otherwise avoid death or great bodily harm at the hands of his or her assailant. (b) The privilege lost by provocation may be regained if the actor in good faith withdraws from the fight and gives adequate notice thereof to his or her assailant. (c) A person who provokes an attack, whether by lawful or unlawful conduct, with intent to use such an attack as an excuse to cause death or great bodily harm to his or her assailant is not entitled to claim the privilege of self-defense. If provoking, he would not be entitled to claim self defense - at that time - per part 'a'. But part 'b' says he can regain that privilege by withdrawing / retreating - which he clearly did. Does part 'c' negate part 'b'? I don't know, but I think its moot. Why? The prosecution has absolutely nothing that shows a shred of intent on Kyle's part that his objective was to cause harm, let alone being able to conclusively prove it. I had the same question. I believe they said he can't claim self defense if he started it. Or maybe it damages his self defense if he started it. But that's what's going on. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:26:29 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know how anyone could watch this trial and not hate the ADA. This guy is so unethical, dishonest, etc. He's literally seeking injustice. Hell, even the judge said so himself. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:26:32 PM EDT
[#39]
I made the mistake of reading the MSNBC article on Kyle’s testimony. I typically stay off of the propaganda sites but was curious how things were being portrayed.
They are actively attempting to incite violence. It’s utterly mind boggling the complete disconnect with reality. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:26:50 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Antifa use Software Defined Radio on battery powered raspberry pi sbc’s. Probably linked right into their handlers, whoever they are *cough*. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That would also explain why the Photog received visits from the FBI and the ATF at both his home and at work. The Feds want to know if the Photog’s pics happen to capture any people, especially the never identified Jump Kick guy, wearing infrared strobes. Antifa use Software Defined Radio on battery powered raspberry pi sbc’s. Probably linked right into their handlers, whoever they are *cough*. Interesting. Got a link discussing that? That would take decently significant coordination. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:27:28 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Allowing the persecution to add new charges this far into the case when the defense hasn't had any chance to prepare arguments or call witnesses to refute the charges is absolute bullshit. Of course the judge has allowed the prosecution to get away with everything short of taking a shit on his bench so I can't see him stopping it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Allowing the persecution to add new charges this far into the case when the defense hasn't had any chance to prepare arguments or call witnesses to refute the charges is absolute bullshit. Of course the judge has allowed the prosecution to get away with everything short of taking a shit on his bench so I can't see him stopping it. I think the judge has been pretty good so far but yeah I agree it is bullshit to introduce new charges late in the game. Didn’t a lawyer here post that that’s pretty normal though. Especially when the DA thinks he’s going to lose the case. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:27:28 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He's gonna need personal security for at least a decade. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: some kinda gun charge time served probation can't have guns...that's my optimistic guess |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:27:53 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: American Heart Association Heart Saver/AED, First Aid Practitioner on scene Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: <---expired Red Cross CPR/AED Basic First Aid Instructor....I keep med bags around. It's easier in an emergency situation to say "EMT" or "medic" than all that other stuff. American Heart Association Heart Saver/AED, First Aid Practitioner on scene I got that also.  |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:28:00 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: <---expired Red Cross CPR/AED Basic First Aid Instructor....I keep med bags around. It's easier in an emergency situation to say "EMT" or "medic" than all that other stuff. No kidding. In a sane world that would be obvious. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:28:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:28:07 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I made the mistake of reading the MSNBC article on Kyle’s testimony. I typically stay off of the propaganda sites but was curious how things were being portrayed. They are actively attempting to incite violence. It’s utterly mind boggling the complete disconnect with reality. They don't benefit from a quiet acquittal and people walking away from the story. To boot, they probably see this as their big chance to get the message off of the President's incompetence for a minute. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:28:35 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Imagine that! ^^^^^ A hyphenated last name. That’s a shocker. Dude, if you hit “Quote” instead of “Reply”, your responses will make more sense if they aren’t directly under the post you are referencing. Edited for clarity |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:28:51 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The worst are the "he shouldn't have been there" crowd. A free American citizen has a right to be anywhere they want to be on a public right of way. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:28:58 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Every single image zoom methodology is adding pixels. All of them. There are no exceptions. If you count the pixels in this text and then zoom in, you will find there are, in fact, more pixels. Where did they come from? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: wtf not all cases do you "add pixels" when expanding - it all depends on the resolution of the base picture compared to the resolution of the display device. wtf is wrong, they should be able to get this idiot tossed immediately for missing this glaring detail Every single image zoom methodology is adding pixels. All of them. There are no exceptions. If you count the pixels in this text and then zoom in, you will find there are, in fact, more pixels. Where did they come from? Typical courtroom enlargements are made so the jury can see the image from afar. Not so the state can argue that estimated data based on originally compressed data that threw out full values for the sake of file size constitutes proof beyond reasonable doubt over someone's countenance and demeanor. Think about the pedantic questioning that followed Huber's aunt submitting the photo of her nephew: State's Attorney: Is this a true and accurate image of Mr Huber? Let's remember ... this all started with the state's witness saying that he was viewing this on his iPhone and he zoomed in on the video to see what Kyle was doing. His iPhone most likely already had a screen resolution that was greater than the native resolution of the drone video. So, he's zooming in on something the evidence tech had already stabilized and did a 200%+ enlargement on? And he is making a judgement based on that? The defense will get to address this in closing, if they choose. Though, it would have been more powerful to have the detective pull out his phone and demonstrate how he did this. |
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Posted: 11/11/2021 10:29:05 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Every single image zoom methodology is adding pixels. All of them. There are no exceptions. If you count the pixels in this text and then zoom in, you will find there are, in fact, more pixels. Where did they come from? You are right, however when you zoom and don’t change pixel colors you get a square of pixels that are the same color as the original pixel. The enhancement algorithms try to adjust to maintain original lines or edge of colors. The problem with the analysts work is he did not show multiple types of enhancements to see if you get similar results. The other issue is enhancement does not clearly show what is being enhanced is at Kyle or something else in front or behind. The whole we saw from way down the street he pointed a gun at someone is bullshit. He could have been lifting the rifle to adjust his sling or any other reason to hold the rifle up. There is no close good evidence and they are grasping on interpolation of pixels. All while there is obvious evidence the perv was willing to provoke arm groups of people. |
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