Ahh yes, we should all move to cesspool states like NY.

Climate change, my ass. My cousins in Commiefornie  all had to use the same bathwater and then it got bucketed out to the garden to save water, and that was in the early 1980's

It was 0 inches 87 years ago, what a coincidence

Master Blaster turn water on!!

For the most part no.

Vegas may actually dump more water out than it uses because we import so many beverages for people and have a very high reclamation rate.

La does use a lot of water comparatively but it's still dwarfed by cali almonds and other water intensive crops.

Sisolak’s claim to fame!!    

California wants to die of thirst, that is why they block new water storage dams and desalinization plants.

Seems like a good time for them to repaint that white ring around the lake.

It's a good question, but I can't find that information readily available without digging into a ton of different data sources. Seems like as of 2017, California was using 1.6 trillion gallons from the Colorado River, which was about 15% more than they were allotted, but they were using other states' "surplus." It's hard to find exact breakdowns, but 80% of water used in California is used by agriculture. Imperial County is said to produce 2/3 of all vegetables consumed by Americans during winter and that whole area farms tons of other stuff that is exported. That area gets about 3" of rain annually, so they have to be using enormous amounts of water, all of which come from the Colorado River. Golf courses and parks are wastes of water, but I don't think urban areas are a huge issue, as much of that water can be reclaimed.

Or just cease to exist.  I could live with that, too.

Restock it with Desalinated water? It's really really stupid that a hugely populated area that is also pretty dry, doesn't have more desalination plants.

 They've been swarming in for a while and doing their best to live up to the stereotype.

This solves it…

Man made lake in the desert went dry because Californians refuse to build desalination plants, not because the lake was man made.

Nuclear powered desalination is the answer.

The root cause of the issue with Lake Mead is the Colorado River Compact was made with outflow data from anomalously wet years that weren't representative of average flows.

As long as tree huggers are holding us back on dam building it won’t ever happen, California sends so much fucking water into the ocean it’s crazy and the tree huggers are trying to get every dam taken down

This whole situation is about to get very interesting

 Holy crap, That's one of the longest "rich people suck" articles I've read.

If true though this part stands out-

"forgotten is that some 8.7 trillion gallons of water will flow each day into the massive Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta, and that 20 percent of it will get sucked by huge pumps into two giant, concrete-lined canal systems and sent hundreds of miles to Southern California's cities and farms."  

That can't be sustainable for very long.

This.

use Elon's boring machine to flood sea water to the interior. Desalinate closer mead or other areas. Use a damn or spill way to control the water entering the tunnel.

Taking something from someone else because it's easier than planning and investing your own resources into a solution. Sounds an awful lot like...

This is it.

Good

I replayed New Vegas on playstation now a few months ago. Great game.

born and raised in western CO.

i take pride in the fact that vega$ and kali are downstream from western CO.

Temporary solution?

Have all the liberals in the country stand around the lake, then have the media report that trump has been reinstated as president for life.

Lake...Mead...issues...are...nothing...to...do...with...climate...change,...but...purposefully...over-estimating...the...water...flows...of...the...CO...river. ...They...did...this,...lead...by...LA...back...in...the...days,...to...over-pump...water. ...Los...Angeles...drains...the...shit...out...of...every...water...source...they...touch.

Mountain runoff caught by dams in higher elevations.  Then regulated downstream.
  Then a tunnel connecting the dam water diverting it through a mountain to the other side.

   Utah  upper Rock creek or upper Stillwater.  Not sure what they called the finished dam.
  I was on the tunnel job and a portion of the dam.

   Utah today has reservoirs due to the water projects of the 80s.  They've provided recreation and  a reserve holding with ability to send water 8 miles thru the mountain.  
 

Mexico owns some of that water too.

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 I found this-  "Irrigation is the water withdrawal category that uses the most water every year.  California's total water use has been declining since 1980. California uses more water than any other state. "
https://www.usgs.gov/centers/california-water-science-center/science/california-water-use

Interesting article.

Yes to SoCal. They're even ruining the Delta

If Lake Meade goes dry to the point of no return...the Feds ought to designate the canyon as a National Park --- Much like the same proposal that some locals over there are supporting.

Nuclear and mix the brine with wastewater effluent.  

Use the excess brine to pickle Hollywood celebrities who die from climate change.  Could create a whole new walk of fame!

I was just in Vegas and at the dam.  We had a Lyft driver who had all the solutions lol..  Just pipe it down from Minnesota!  Then charge 10 cents for water.  You'd pay 10 cents for water right?  You'll never run out of water you've got 10,000 lakes, just give it to us.  Right after he dropped us off we walked past a building where they were just misting water into the air.  Yeah, we'll send you all our water so you can spray it in the air.  Fuck off.  He also complained about his water bill which was less than mine even though I rarely use more than 1 unit of water(750 gallons).

I don't believe there's one solution to this problem.  It's going to require water from other places.  But part of that agreement should be a requirement to add desalination plants AND the power to run them located in California.  Along with wastewater plants over x amount of flow to produce title 22 effluent water for reuse with either deep well injection, desalination effluent mixing, or reservoir filling as their required discharge location.  And enforce immigration laws to reduce consumption growth.  Adding reservoirs and covering them with floating balls to reduce evaporation, reduced consumption, higher rates for usage with high use commercial paying a higher rate than the plebs instead of a lower rate...  long term desert reduction through planting as discusses earlier.  

I suspect almost none of these things are going to be done.   Oh well.  Just make sure the libtards move to an already libtard state like MN and fuck it up more.  I plan on escaping at some point to South Dakota.

That is a bit of a mess with the 2 reservoirs but both lake Mead and lake Powell are partially within the state of Arizona, Yes Mead is shared with Nevada and Powell shared with Utah. The thing is The Colorado River runs within the State of Arizona before it even runs along side of the states of NV or CA. The balencing act is the Hydroelectric production and generation for the dams, so it has to be managed in that respect. The Glenn Canyon dam from lake Powell reservoir is already at lower power capacity now even with the shift in water levels so it must be done, Arizona must take into consideration the power production, they are saying loss of 35 more feet and they will loss the abilityto even make power. So forgive me if I sound brash but it should be our water to manage in that sense, no one has a right to complain about Arizona using water from the Colorado river. And no one complains about Colorados use of the water even though Utah contributes a hell of a lot to the origin of the water. Yes there is some politics involved and there is also some ecological stuff involved that goes back decades.  But I believe that this is the gist of it. I also belive like you we need to stop the influx of growth and wait for the cycle to change. The water will come back like you said.   We had too much in the 80s.  It will repeat.

I dont want to come off as a water elitists, Believe me I am fully against wasting water, importation of more assholes moving into my state and using more of the limited resources. I fully know they are continuing to build more homes and towns to fuel the growth that lets them come here. I am against that. I also don't have issue with Nevada and Vegas using electricity from Hydroelectric dams, its cheap and good energy and It is theirs to use as it should be.

What is insane and I think we agree on this is California and their hypocritical BS. They are a costal state, they have the Sierra mountains as well as the water it provides and meanwhile they continue to waste money on the importation of illegals, the social free money and socialist BS, yet they buy Arizona nuclear based electric power and play the environmental fuck fuck games. But for them to bitch and moan about Arizona using water from our own water basin is BS, my whole state is a hydrological water basin for the Colorado River, while their state is almost naturally 0, yet they take the most water resources of any of the states in the upper and lower basins. Fuck them.

Sorry to rant Cav Scout, All that said please just don't blame Arizona for diminishing levels of the water in the reservoirs in the north. We are just trying to manage the production of Glenn Canyon hydorelectric dam at acceptable levels for Utah and Northern Arizona at affordable levels for those people who have been relying on it since the 1980s and that is honestly mostly the Navajo nation's not the incoming jerks from out of state who feel intitled to green grass lawns and pools in our desert.

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Bingo!

The city of Santa Barbara owns and operates a desal plant.
It provides 30% of the cities potable water needs.

"...half the incoming water ends up as drinking water after the desalination process.
The other half is brine, which is about twice as salty as normal seawater.
The brine is blended with the city’s treated wastewater and is discharged into the ocean about 1.5 miles offshore..."

As far as energy consumption goes, the desal plant uses 50% of the electrical power that the city uses.

Santa Barbara gets water from local reservoirs and from the State Water Project.
It takes 42% more energy to desal the water than to import it from the State Water Project.

In March of this year the State Water Project cut the County of Santa Barbara supplied water to 5% of initial requests.

For the city of Santa Barbara the desal plant even with the electrical cost usage is looking good.


 

The same as the Colorado River.

I live on an island located in the world's largest freshwater body of water. I am good to go. If things get real sporty we can fill five gallon buckets up within walking distance.

You cant have a desalination plant because the environmental survey would take 50 yrs and a billion pages of paper work.

How deep is that B-29 now?

Still at the bottom.

CA Agriculture uses most of the water which sucks because the result will be food/produce shortages.

I took this in August of 2021.

It will make no difference overall. The effect is localized to the discharge.

ETA, it is the same salt that was in the ocean to start and the water will be returned to the ocean.

That won't be the only cause. Fuel,feed and fertilizer are all jumping in price and agriculture nationwide is taking a hit and food prices are going to get stupid.

Maybe if they just closed up the power generation sluices it’d fill back up.   I mean with all the left coast green energy that shouldn’t be a problem.

Somewhere around here, I have pictures from mid-80's of water spilling through the overflow "tubes". Quite the sight at the time.

When I was there last in 2010(?) it was amazing how much it had dropped.

Sooner or later, somethings going to have to change.