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Posted: 2/5/2021 10:21:59 AM EDT
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To those posts above if you were this passionate and relentless about restoring our gun rights as you are trying to berate me
the NFA would be abolished long ago. Instead you gripe with me about the facts I gave about lever action rifles not being in the same league as ARs for serious use. I thought this is was AR15.com not Marlinleveraction.com a few of you took it as a personal attack. |
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Posted: 2/5/2021 10:34:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To those posts above if you were this passionate and relentless about restoring our gun rights as you are trying to berate me the NFA would be abolished long ago. Instead you gripe with me about the facts I gave about lever action rifles not being in the same league as ARs for serious use. I thought this is was AR15.com not Marlinleveraction.com a few of you took it as a personal attack. Get off the cross, we need the wood. |
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Posted: 2/5/2021 10:38:04 AM EDT
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in other news.....Water is wet.
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Posted: 2/5/2021 10:48:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Get off the cross, we need the wood. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: To those posts above if you were this passionate and relentless about restoring our gun rights as you are trying to berate me the NFA would be abolished long ago. Instead you gripe with me about the facts I gave about lever action rifles not being in the same league as ARs for serious use. I thought this is was AR15.com not Marlinleveraction.com a few of you took it as a personal attack. Get off the cross, we need the wood. Gonna make some lever action furniture with it? 
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Posted: 2/5/2021 10:51:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gonna make some lever action furniture with it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: To those posts above if you were this passionate and relentless about restoring our gun rights as you are trying to berate me the NFA would be abolished long ago. Instead you gripe with me about the facts I gave about lever action rifles not being in the same league as ARs for serious use. I thought this is was AR15.com not Marlinleveraction.com a few of you took it as a personal attack. Get off the cross, we need the wood. Gonna make some lever action furniture with it? BeTtEr ThAn Ar5teen FoR cUmBat |
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Posted: 2/5/2021 10:52:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BeTtEr ThAn Ar5teen FoR cUmBat Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: To those posts above if you were this passionate and relentless about restoring our gun rights as you are trying to berate me the NFA would be abolished long ago. Instead you gripe with me about the facts I gave about lever action rifles not being in the same league as ARs for serious use. I thought this is was AR15.com not Marlinleveraction.com a few of you took it as a personal attack. Get off the cross, we need the wood. Gonna make some lever action furniture with it? BeTtEr ThAn Ar5teen FoR cUmBat Was the "gun that won the west" an Ar15? CHECKMATE |
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Posted: 2/5/2021 10:54:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was the "gun that won the west" an Ar15? CHECKMATE Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: To those posts above if you were this passionate and relentless about restoring our gun rights as you are trying to berate me the NFA would be abolished long ago. Instead you gripe with me about the facts I gave about lever action rifles not being in the same league as ARs for serious use. I thought this is was AR15.com not Marlinleveraction.com a few of you took it as a personal attack. Get off the cross, we need the wood. Gonna make some lever action furniture with it? BeTtEr ThAn Ar5teen FoR cUmBat Was the "gun that won the west" an Ar15? CHECKMATE The west was never won. |
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Posted: 2/5/2021 11:00:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are literally the only person I've ever heard bring this up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Because its folks spreading around misinformation and bullshit to new gun owners that get the wrong ideas with their new Marlin 30-30 Lever gun. You are literally the only person I've ever heard bring this up. |
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Posted: 2/5/2021 11:23:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought this is was AR15.com not Marlinleveraction.com a few of you took it as a personal attack. Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought this is was AR15.com not Marlinleveraction.com a few of you took it as a personal attack. I'm starting to think you didn't pass reading comprehension tests in elementary. Literally no one here is feeling attacked or offended for owning a lever action, the only thing we're feeling has been attacked is our poor braincells that you keep mercilessly slaughtering every time you fire up both of yours. To those posts above if you were this passionate and relentless about restoring our gun rights as you are trying to berate me the NFA would be abolished long ago. Instead you gripe with me about the facts I gave about lever action rifles not being in the same league as ARs for serious use. Normally this would be where I explain the major differences between laughing at someone's incompetence and the decades of litigation and legal battles it'll take to overturn a library's worth of gun laws and an entire section of a massive government branch, but I can't find my crayons and I'm not going to bother firing up ms paint and PowerPoint to make it understandable for you. So instead I'm going to sit here with my morning coffee and continue laughing at just how big a stretch this comparison is. |
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Posted: 2/5/2021 12:16:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Get off the cross, we need the wood. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: To those posts above if you were this passionate and relentless about restoring our gun rights as you are trying to berate me the NFA would be abolished long ago. Instead you gripe with me about the facts I gave about lever action rifles not being in the same league as ARs for serious use. I thought this is was AR15.com not Marlinleveraction.com a few of you took it as a personal attack. Get off the cross, we need the wood. "We need the fucking space, to nail the next fool martyr.." 
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Posted: 2/5/2021 12:27:25 PM EDT
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So.… try doing that with an AR...  Speed lever rifle world record tie. 1.57 seconds. |
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Posted: 2/5/2021 12:28:25 PM EDT
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Well, if SA's get outlawed, levers will be the next SA....
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Posted: 2/5/2021 12:32:10 PM EDT
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The west was won with a lever action and wheel gun
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Posted: 2/5/2021 12:32:24 PM EDT
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Quote History AR-15 5 shots in 1 second with fastest shooter ever, Jerry Miculek (Shoot Fast!)
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Posted: 2/5/2021 12:33:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The west was won with a lever action and wheel gun Yeah except I don't think our opponents this time have bows and arrows so. |
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Posted: 2/5/2021 1:14:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm starting to think you didn't pass reading comprehension tests in elementary. Literally no one here is feeling attacked or offended for owning a lever action, the only thing we're feeling has been attacked is our poor braincells that you keep mercilessly slaughtering every time you fire up both of yours. Normally this would be where I explain the major differences between laughing at someone's incompetence and the decades of litigation and legal battles it'll take to overturn a library's worth of gun laws and an entire section of a massive government branch, but I can't find my crayons and I'm not going to bother firing up ms paint and PowerPoint to make it understandable for you. So instead I'm going to sit here with my morning coffee and continue laughing at just how big a stretch this comparison is. Your taking this personally lighten up your blood pressure must be through the roof. There is nothing wrong with lever action rifles if you know its limitations. |
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Posted: 2/5/2021 1:39:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your taking this personally lighten up your blood pressure must be through the roof. There is nothing wrong with lever action rifles if you know its limitations. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm starting to think you didn't pass reading comprehension tests in elementary. Literally no one here is feeling attacked or offended for owning a lever action, the only thing we're feeling has been attacked is our poor braincells that you keep mercilessly slaughtering every time you fire up both of yours. Normally this would be where I explain the major differences between laughing at someone's incompetence and the decades of litigation and legal battles it'll take to overturn a library's worth of gun laws and an entire section of a massive government branch, but I can't find my crayons and I'm not going to bother firing up ms paint and PowerPoint to make it understandable for you. So instead I'm going to sit here with my morning coffee and continue laughing at just how big a stretch this comparison is. Your taking this personally lighten up your blood pressure must be through the roof. There is nothing wrong with lever action rifles if you know its limitations. No shit. |
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Posted: 2/5/2021 1:55:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your taking this personally lighten up your blood pressure must be through the roof. There is nothing wrong with lever action rifles if you know its limitations. Is it still plagiarism if it's my own words? I'm starting to think you didn't pass reading comprehension tests in elementary. Literally no one here is feeling attacked or offended for owning a lever action. I'm not taking this personally and my blood pressure is perfectly fine, I'm legitimately laughing my way through most of this thread because every time you somehow manage to completely miss the blatant points that people are saying here, the insanity of this entire debacle just gets funnier and funnier. Which is why we're still here and participating, it's grand entertainment. Maybe try pinging Joanne again, I'm sure she can come help you understand.  Also, *you're. Refer again to my plagiarism.
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Posted: 2/5/2021 3:20:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is it still plagiarism if it's my own words? I'm starting to think you didn't pass reading comprehension tests in elementary. Literally no one here is feeling attacked or offended for owning a lever action. I'm not taking this personally and my blood pressure is perfectly fine, I'm legitimately laughing my way through most of this thread because every time you somehow manage to completely miss the blatant points that people are saying here, the insanity of this entire debacle just gets funnier and funnier. Which is why we're still here and participating, it's grand entertainment. Maybe try pinging Joanne again, I'm sure she can come help you understand. Also, *you're. Refer again to my plagiarism. I did not know you own a copyright on your posted literary works here. It is sad that you made this into a spectacle instead of taking this more seriously. If you need someone to talk to in private I'm here. |
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Posted: 2/5/2021 3:22:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah except I don't think our opponents this time have bows and arrows so. Indians had plenty of rifles and knew how to use them. |
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Posted: 2/5/2021 10:51:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I did not know you own a copyright on your posted literary works here. It is sad that you made this into a spectacle instead of taking this more seriously. If you need someone to talk to in private I'm here. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is it still plagiarism if it's my own words? I'm starting to think you didn't pass reading comprehension tests in elementary. Literally no one here is feeling attacked or offended for owning a lever action. I'm not taking this personally and my blood pressure is perfectly fine, I'm legitimately laughing my way through most of this thread because every time you somehow manage to completely miss the blatant points that people are saying here, the insanity of this entire debacle just gets funnier and funnier. Which is why we're still here and participating, it's grand entertainment. Maybe try pinging Joanne again, I'm sure she can come help you understand. Also, *you're. Refer again to my plagiarism. I did not know you own a copyright on your posted literary works here. It is sad that you made this into a spectacle instead of taking this more seriously. If you need someone to talk to in private I'm here. You don't need a copyright to plagiarize. |
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Posted: 2/5/2021 10:54:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gonna make some lever action furniture with it? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: To those posts above if you were this passionate and relentless about restoring our gun rights as you are trying to berate me the NFA would be abolished long ago. Instead you gripe with me about the facts I gave about lever action rifles not being in the same league as ARs for serious use. I thought this is was AR15.com not Marlinleveraction.com a few of you took it as a personal attack. Get off the cross, we need the wood. Gonna make some lever action furniture with it? 
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Posted: 2/5/2021 10:57:33 PM EDT
[#23]
OP be all
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Posted: 2/5/2021 11:49:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryAt this point I'm just amazed it's still unlocked. |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 12:02:29 AM EDT
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Pros of Lever Action Rifles
*Design can handle pistol caliber, shotgun, and rifle cartridges *Can be quick for follow up shots *Is slim and light to carry *Great for hunting Cons of Lever Action Rifles *Complexity of parts in most lever action rifles *Cant use spitzer bullets *Limited capacity in rifle cartridges *Limited mounting options depending on the model *Slow to reload *Can short stroke causing a jam/double feed |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 12:02:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The west was never won. What say we get the Utes, Sioux and Apache opinions on that? Maybe the Piutes can be the jury. |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 12:05:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pros of Lever Action Rifles *Design can handle pistol caliber, shotgun, and rifle cartridges *Can be quick for follow up shots *Is slim and light to carry *Great for hunting Cons of Lever Action Rifles *Complexity of parts in most lever action rifles *Cant use spitzer bullets *Limited capacity in rifle cartridges *Limited mounting options depending on the model *Slow to reload *Can short stroke causing a jam/double feed Tonight! On this week's episode of "No Shit Friday." |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 12:16:56 AM EDT
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Pros of Semi Automatic Rifles example AR15
*Aftermarket support *Reliable/Durable *Higher capacity including drum magazines *Accuracy can be 2 Moa or much less *Quicker reloading per magazine changes *Mounting options for scopes and red dots are nearly universal *Easy to fieldstrip *Can take all bullet types *Fast follow up shots Cons of Semi Automatic Rifles *Magazines can fail rendering rifle as a single shot if there are no other magazines *Rifle can heat up fast if you mag dump *Does not like subarctic temperatures Made it quick and easy |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 12:26:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pros of Lever Action Rifles *Design can handle pistol caliber, shotgun, and rifle cartridges *Can be quick for follow up shots *Is slim and light to carry *Great for hunting Cons of Lever Action Rifles *Complexity of parts in most lever action rifles *Cant use spitzer bullets *Limited capacity in rifle cartridges *Limited mounting options depending on the model *Slow to reload *Can short stroke causing a jam/double feed  Mind blown / Mind explosion While you're here bestowing us all with your wisdom, would you please enlighten me to another query that has stumped me even longer than "is a multi-century year old design on par with modern technology?"  Fuckin' Magnets, How Do They Work? |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 12:30:35 AM EDT
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Are we forgetting the LONG history of the lever action? They were the “assault rifle” of their day. Show them a little respect. I’ve seen the comments about them being complex and fragile. If thats such a problem why are there 100yr old lever actions still going strong? There are thousands of them still in circulation.
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Posted: 2/6/2021 12:35:39 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Are we forgetting the LONG history of the lever action? They were the “assault rifle” of their day. Show them a little respect. I’ve seen the comments about them being complex and fragile. If thats such a problem why are there 100yr old lever actions still going strong? There are thousands of them still in circulation. I guarantee you those 100 year old lever actions had most if not all parts replaced if they were used heavily in those days. |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 12:42:28 AM EDT
[#32]
I just want a nice simple reliable pump action conversion for my AR.
Fuck levers. Too slow and complicated. |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 12:43:53 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: To those posts above if you were this passionate and relentless about restoring our gun rights as you are trying to berate me the NFA would be abolished long ago. Instead you gripe with me about the facts I gave about lever action rifles not being in the same league as ARs for serious use. I thought this is was AR15.com not Marlinleveraction.com a few of you took it as a personal attack. Appreciate your concern, but berating you isn't nearly as tough as repealing the NFA. You make it easy. And fun. |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 12:46:31 AM EDT
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I love Lever guns, but I'd never think they were 'better' than semi-auto's.
I do like them for hunting though, but semi's do a great job at that too. |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 1:15:15 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've never heard that. Lever guns are better at some things, worse at others, but never "just as good". what are leverguns better at? |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 1:21:09 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: what are leverguns better at? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've never heard that. Lever guns are better at some things, worse at others, but never "just as good". what are leverguns better at? Compact and slim profile. Also they look non threatening. |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 1:28:34 AM EDT
[#37]
Just what this site needed, a
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Posted: 2/6/2021 2:15:49 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pros of Semi Automatic Rifles example AR15 *Aftermarket support *Reliable/Durable *Higher capacity including drum magazines *Accuracy can be 2 Moa or much less *Quicker reloading per magazine changes *Mounting options for scopes and red dots are nearly universal *Easy to fieldstrip *Can take all bullet types *Fast follow up shots Cons of Semi Automatic Rifles *Magazines can fail rendering rifle as a single shot if there are no other magazines *Rifle can heat up fast if you mag dump *Does not like subarctic temperatures Made it quick and easy (Lol) holy shit you still cant make a post that doesn't show that you don't know anything. The M16/M4 is excellent in arctic conditions. Semis, any types are very dependent on bullet shape |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 2:26:55 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: (Lol) holy shit you still cant make a post that doesn't show that you don't know anything. The M16/M4 is excellent in arctic conditions. Semis, any types are very dependent on bullet shape Wrong they start to choke in sub zero conditions especially at -40 F and colder. |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 2:27:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pros of Lever Action Rifles *Design can handle pistol caliber, shotgun, and rifle cartridges *Can be quick for follow up shots *Is slim and light to carry *Great for hunting Cons of Lever Action Rifles *Complexity of parts in most lever action rifles *Cant use spitzer bullets *Limited capacity in rifle cartridges *Limited mounting options depending on the model *Slow to reload *Can short stroke causing a jam/double feed Semi's can short stroke as well Oh and  Attached FileOr you can use a winchester 88 or savage 99 or a BLR for spitzers. Limited mounting options? Full length picitiny rails with ghost ring sights? Or standard bases and rings like every other bolt gun not enough? Geeze dude |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 2:28:04 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: To those posts above if you were this passionate and relentless about restoring our gun rights as you are trying to berate me the NFA would be abolished long ago. Instead you gripe with me about the facts I gave about lever action rifles not being in the same league as ARs for serious use. I thought this is was AR15.com not Marlinleveraction.com a few of you took it as a personal attack.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 2:29:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wrong they start to choke in sub zero conditions especially at -40 F and colder. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: (Lol) holy shit you still cant make a post that doesn't show that you don't know anything. The M16/M4 is excellent in arctic conditions. Semis, any types are very dependent on bullet shape Wrong they start to choke in sub zero conditions especially at -40 F and colder. Not really |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 2:54:49 AM EDT
[#43]
45-70 and 30 30 are fun to shoot.
Next topic.... |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 3:05:05 AM EDT
[#44]
Wait what OP?
Where specifically are you seeing a case repeatedly made that lever actions are better than semi auto’s? Nowhere, that’s where. I think your twisting someone, somewheres otherwise rational points about lever actions to make a click bait thread. I HAVE seen/heard favorable things about lever actions like: - if all one has is a lever action it can be a formidable defensive weapon. - lever actions give the advantage that one can work the action without loosing sight picture. -in states where high capacity semi auto rifles are illegal a lever action is a good alternative for home defense. “I wouldn’t feel out-gunned” with a lever action. All of which give credit to lever actions without favoring them over a semi auto. I have NEVER heard someone say one should sell their AR and get a lever action for home/self defense or SHTF. I have a marlin 336 that I would grab so my wife and daughter could grab the AR’s. Not because it’s superior, quite the opposite, which is why I would want someone I’m trying to protect to have it over me, given certain circumstances. This thread is created on a false premise. |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 3:21:06 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wrong they start to choke in sub zero conditions especially at -40 F and colder. If it is -40F, there are probably not going to be many people to shoot at. My AR has been tested at -35F (after spending the night outside) and worked fine. Multiple times. I have seen several rifles, levers included, that are frozen stiff in those conditions. Bolt guns you can beat into working most of the time. A lot of it is lube and maintenance. Levers, in general, lack both. |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 4:06:00 AM EDT
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Glad you brought those Hornady's up. They are amazing for lever guns.
Still take my AR in most situations. Now body armor I can't penetrate. I'm think the 45-70 Buffalo Bore 405, while not penetrating, may cave the vest into the chest. I know it can the metal ones just not sure about ceramic. Here's the video I was thinking of. 450 marlin which is about the same as the buffalo bore 405.  Highcom 3S9 level III ceramic body armor vs .450 Marlin test video |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 4:28:32 AM EDT
[#47]
A poster presents dancing Asians. They are appreciated but do not pacify the mob.
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Posted: 2/6/2021 4:37:26 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Glad you brought those Hornady's up. They are amazing for lever guns. Still take my AR in most situations. Now body armor I can't penetrate. I'm think the 45-70 Buffalo Bore 405, while not penetrating, may cave the vest into the chest. I know it can the metal ones just not sure about ceramic. Here's the video I was thinking of. 450 marlin which is about the same as the buffalo bore 405.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLGDeljtnscLevel III ceramic ?? Are you shooting at hobos with poor people import body armor. LOL |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 8:52:22 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistorySo it shoots weird proprietary pseudo 45-70 rimless ammo? Why not just chamber it in .450 Marlin? |
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Posted: 2/6/2021 9:24:38 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd rock the fuck out of those bottom two. Manlaw...absolutely. |
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