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Quoted: NW was 540. Thats... a jump but not 1000. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 3 blobs right eh some sort of wind FULL SEND When CW east We need do some spearmintin October. Keystone in June though, that goes to 800 /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/bubbles_zps5bf5952f_GIF-110.gif... NW was 540. Thats... a jump but not 1000. I never shot that far before ever but I was able to clear the course with the exception of the 100yd one arm while you hold a weight in the other hand. The 825 or whatever needed some blobs |
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Quoted: It pulls wind data too? View Quote It gives you a wind meter you can hook to your phone, then enter wind direction and speed in the app... works pretty good, of course you have to judge what the wind is doing between the meter and the target..but once you get used to it, its not bad to deal with...It does everything else using the AB programming, even increasing the BC of the 230 Bergers from .374 stock to 380 for the higher velocity.. plus it has a place to load in velocity at given temps, a place to square the dope with your real shot dope, and square the velocity with what the labradar says..pretty trick piece... |
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Quoted: It gives you a wind meter you can hook to your phone, then enter wind direction and speed in the app... works pretty good, of course you have to judge what the wind is doing between the meter and the target..but once you get used to it, its not bad to deal with...It does everything else using the AB programming, even increasing the BC of the 230 Bergers from .374 stock to 380 for the higher velocity.. plus it has a place to load in velocity at given temps, a place to square the dope with your real shot dope, and square the velocity with what the labradar says..pretty trick piece... View Quote Interesting, thanks! |
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You guys talking all your long range bullshit.
I run yards bitches, I ninja in under the wire and use my 12 ga " shottie" with voodoo buckshot that slides through level 4 like butter. Man up , and grab your street howitzer! |
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Quoted: You guys talking all your long range bullshit. I run yards bitches, I ninja in under the wire and use my 12 ga " shottie" with voodoo buckshot that slides through level 4 like butter. Man up , and grab your street howitzer! View Quote LOL, I'm old and broken, you go do the fun stuff, I'll help with overwatch and keep your ass safe... |
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Quoted: Hmmmm. Yes. But not on the first shot. I bet I could do it in 5 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I saw that video. Could you do it? how many shots? I was surprised I did it actually..my buddy was even more surprised.. Hmmmm. Yes. But not on the first shot. I bet I could do it in 5 Are we playing name that tune?... |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I saw that video. Could you do it? how many shots? I was surprised I did it actually..my buddy was even more surprised.. Hmmmm. Yes. But not on the first shot. I bet I could do it in 5 Are we playing name that tune?... Nope. I'm an above average shooter but I'm not that good. In competition I am usually in the 40th percentile to the 50th percentile. So i can usually complete the task, I'll just never win |
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1/10th mil clicks
need to adjust 4 mils? 40 clicks, easy. Try doing that with 1/4 MOA clicks, why involve all that extra math? MOA clicks are stupid IMO 1/10th mil click all the way people that like 1/4 - 1/2 MOA click scopes are the same people that like second focal plane scopes, or don't even realize that first focal plane exists. |
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Quoted: NW was 540. Thats... a jump but not 1000. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 3 blobs right eh some sort of wind FULL SEND When CW east We need do some spearmintin October. Keystone in June though, that goes to 800 /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/bubbles_zps5bf5952f_GIF-110.gif... NW was 540. Thats... a jump but not 1000. Yes, yes it was... ...never got a shot at it though |
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Quoted: Theta? That sounds like one of them European words. Therefore, metric. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Negative, Ghostrider. s = r * theta. Angular math. That sounds like one of them European words. Therefore, metric. Aristotle and Pythagoras are crying. |
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Quoted: Yes, yes it was... ...never got a shot at it though View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 3 blobs right eh some sort of wind FULL SEND When CW east We need do some spearmintin October. Keystone in June though, that goes to 800 /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/bubbles_zps5bf5952f_GIF-110.gif... NW was 540. Thats... a jump but not 1000. Yes, yes it was... ...never got a shot at it though Wat wat happen |
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Quoted: Mils are base 10 Western numerical system is base 10 Switch to base 8 to not be gay View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Mils are metric Metric is gay and European Therfore mils are gay and European Mils are base 10 Western numerical system is base 10 Switch to base 8 to not be gay Any measurement that's done by 10 instead of relatable units is gay. 360° is at least real and not gay and made up |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 3 blobs right eh some sort of wind FULL SEND When CW east We need do some spearmintin October. Keystone in June though, that goes to 800 /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/bubbles_zps5bf5952f_GIF-110.gif... NW was 540. Thats... a jump but not 1000. Yes, yes it was... ...never got a shot at it though Wat wat happen Timed out... ...need to get better |
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Quoted: Any measurement that's done by 10 instead of relatable units is gay. 360° is at least real and not gay and made up View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Mils are metric Metric is gay and European Therfore mils are gay and European Mils are base 10 Western numerical system is base 10 Switch to base 8 to not be gay Any measurement that's done by 10 instead of relatable units is gay. 360° is at least real and not gay and made up not only that, but it's ADA compliant for people with less than 10 fingers we must accommodate everyone that can't manage to chop carrots without workers comp |
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Anyone who prefers MOA is telling the world they aren’t smart enough for math and probably shouldn’t be trusted with a gun
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Limit sin(theta) as theta approaches zero is theta … IN RADIANS!, YOU FUCKING IDIOTS!!!
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 3 blobs right eh some sort of wind FULL SEND When CW east We need do some spearmintin October. Keystone in June though, that goes to 800 /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/bubbles_zps5bf5952f_GIF-110.gif... NW was 540. Thats... a jump but not 1000. Yes, yes it was... ...never got a shot at it though Wat wat happen Timed out... ...need to get better Sorry I think I misunderstood. I thought you missed all the targets. |
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View Quote Nooop. MOA math is for deer-camp Fuddleys even though it’s totally unnecessary for Fuddley-type shooting. Mil math is for in-shape, outbound operators who gotta do operator stuff. There’s a difference. |
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Quoted: Anyone who prefers MOA is telling the world they aren’t smart enough for math and probably shouldn’t be trusted with a gun View Quote Quoted: Nooop. MOA math is for deer-camp Fuddleys even though it’s totally unnecessary for Fuddley-type shooting. Mil math is for in-shape, outbound operators who gotta do operator stuff. There’s a difference. View Quote 360° preferred Other system is divisible by 10 Who is bad at math |
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So as a rifleman or sniper, you're looking out across the field or through your optics -- are you measuring winds in kilometers per hour?
Your PT run this morning -- how many klicks, and how fast did you run? Because you can figure out how fast your winds are moving in kilometers per hour. |
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It doesn’t matter what is better. All service rifle scopes are in MOA. When I dial for wind and change yard lines it will be in MOA because that is what everyone in the game is using and what every service rifle is set up for going back before the M1.
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Quoted: Nope. I'm an above average shooter but I'm not that good. In competition I am usually in the 40th percentile to the 50th percentile. So i can usually complete the task, I'll just never win View Quote Meh, I could put you right behind big bertha and you would do fine... I'm no expert, just somebody who likes to hunt... hell teresa is 64 can't shoot her 30-06 better that 3MOA at 100, but she was getting consistent hits out at 2000 yards behind it... |
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Quoted: So as a rifleman or sniper, you're looking out across the field or through your optics -- are you measuring winds in kilometers per hour? Your PT run this morning -- how many klicks, and how fast did you run? Because you can figure out how fast your winds are moving in kilometers per hour. View Quote Relatable measurement is necessary for humans. Totally agree. |
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Quoted: 1/10th mil clicks need to adjust 4 mils? 40 clicks, easy. Try doing that with 1/4 MOA clicks, why involve all that extra math? MOA clicks are stupid IMO 1/10th mil click all the way people that like 1/4 - 1/2 MOA click scopes are the same people that like second focal plane scopes, or don't even realize that first focal plane exists. View Quote Meh, its 13.4 moa.. why do we need to count the 4 clicks, the knobs are numbered, just dial to 13 MOA and add 2 clicks and fire away... |
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Quoted: Meh, I could put you right behind big bertha and you would do fine... I'm no expert, just somebody who likes to hunt... hell teresa is 64 can't shoot her 30-06 better that 3MOA at 100, but she was getting consistent hits out at 2000 yards behind it... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Nope. I'm an above average shooter but I'm not that good. In competition I am usually in the 40th percentile to the 50th percentile. So i can usually complete the task, I'll just never win Meh, I could put you right behind big bertha and you would do fine... I'm no expert, just somebody who likes to hunt... hell teresa is 64 can't shoot her 30-06 better that 3MOA at 100, but she was getting consistent hits out at 2000 yards behind it... You're one of the coolest internet friends I have bro. It's a shame we will probably never meet. |
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MOA was a mistake
In 2001 there was an excuse to be confused about it Not today |
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Quoted: 1/10th mil clicks need to adjust 4 mils? 40 clicks, easy. Try doing that with 1/4 MOA clicks, why involve all that extra math? MOA clicks are stupid IMO 1/10th mil click all the way people that like 1/4 - 1/2 MOA click scopes are the same people that like second focal plane scopes, or don't even realize that first focal plane exists. View Quote 40 clicks just dial to to 4 |
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Quoted: Nooop. MOA math is for deer-camp Fuddleys even though it’s totally unnecessary for Fuddley-type shooting. Mil math is for in-shape, outbound operators who gotta do operator stuff. There’s a difference. View Quote You really think my bullet gives a shit about your metrics? know how to do both so you have everything needed if you ever get put in such a place... |
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These are REAL radians done by REAL mathematicians
They have played us for absolute fools |
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Quoted: The gun number is just an approximation and doesn’t scale accurately, .3 at 300 doesn’t translate to 1.2 at 1200 and those nice round numbers are only applicable at one wind speed. What do you do when the wind goes from 5 to 8 mph? Or you miss with your 5mph wind call and have to shoot a different target at a different distance? That’s why I like the tremor, as long as you are shooting the same load the wind dots never change. Once I know the dots are 4mph I can shoot at any distance (with less than 10 mills of drop) in any wind speed, very quickly. View Quote Except wind in real terrain is quite variable. Unless you live in flat Kansas and shoot exclusively on a flat KD range, good luck finding those constant value one directional winds and whole number target engagements. In the real world, in places where topography is a thing, you can have a strong wind in your face, at 243 meters where you can see some dust, it’s blowing three to nine and down at 617 meters where there’s some leafy trees everything looks calm and you got no idea at the target which is at 711 meters, but maybe you saw a dust devil? Then you shoot, and just as you are about to make a wind call and shoot again, everything changes direction and value. |
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Quoted: A few of you need to look up the difference between coriolis effect and magnus effect. As for mills vs moa? A real man can use both. He just needs to remember to switch his rangefinder between meters and yards. View Quote Mils work in yards, furlongs, meters, arshins, fine-red cunt hairs and any other unit of distance measure, just like MOA. Both measure angle and not distance. You don’t need to convert to distance if your reticle matches your knobs. |
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Quoted: Except wind in real terrain is quite variable. Unless you live in flat Kansas and shoot exclusively on a flat KD range, good luck finding those constant value one directional winds and whole number target engagements. In the real world, in places where topography is a thing, you can have a strong wind in your face, at 243 meters where you can see some dust, it’s blowing three to nine and down at 617 meters where there’s some leafy trees everything looks calm and you got no idea at the target which is at 711 meters, but maybe you saw a dust devil? Then you shoot, and just as you are about to make a wind call and shoot again, everything changes direction and value. View Quote Hey we got some pretty wacky wind too! |
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Quoted: I will take the relatable any day. The French revolution was trash. Look at your God https://i.ytimg.com/vi/s5uB-xzULm8/maxresdefault.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: MOA was a mistake In 2001 there was an excuse to be confused about it Not today I will take the relatable any day. The French revolution was trash. Look at your God https://i.ytimg.com/vi/s5uB-xzULm8/maxresdefault.jpg Too much math. |
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I don't see how one is superior or inferior. They're just different scales.
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Quoted: I don't see how one is superior or inferior. They're just different scales. View Quote Exactly. MOA is easier for a lot of people because it is very close to 1” at 100 yds, 2” at 200 yds etc. With MIL the math is just so much more elegant and simple. I have and use both but lean to MIL. |
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