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Posted: 5/26/2019 2:02:10 AM EST

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Which product? It's not classified info, you know.

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LE sensitive.

Posted: 5/26/2019 2:29:34 AM EST

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MORIS

Posted: 5/26/2019 2:30:50 AM EST

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https://www.bi2technologies.com/products

Posted: 5/26/2019 2:43:54 AM EST

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Take pics, gather as much info as possible, issue cites in name given, release.

Seek warrants later when it is all figured out.

ETA: Impound your ride, etc...since you don't have a DL

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You can impound cars for people not having a license? Jesus Christ glad I don't live in a "free state"

Posted: 5/26/2019 2:46:02 AM EST

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In 10 years, you won't be able to walk in public in any major city without having your face scanned.

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Police license plate scanners already track your movements and collect data

Posted: 5/26/2019 2:48:20 AM EST

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People take their kids down to the police station to have their face scanned? Oookay

Posted: 5/26/2019 2:53:34 AM EST

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People take their kids down to the police station to have their face scanned? Oookay

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My face was scanned every time I entered and left Holland

And Japan

And Hong Kong

And the US

Posted: 5/26/2019 2:54:01 AM EST

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Singapore as well

Posted: 5/26/2019 3:00:50 AM EST

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I wonder at what point this system will be so prolific that cops just dispatch from the station whenever they get a "hit" on city cams

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That's how they do it here in the UAE. They wont pinch you quickly, but they will pinch you eventually. Facial recognition, plate readers....EVERYWHERE. Excuse me habbibbi, you not pay etisalat phone bill. Off to jail for 45 days until judge decides to hear your case, inshallah.

Posted: 5/26/2019 3:06:59 AM EST

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You can impound cars for people not having a license? Jesus Christ glad I don't live in a "free state"

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Why wouldn't they? Can't just leave it on the side of the road?

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Police license plate scanners already track your movements and collect data

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Yup and even more private scanners that sell the data to everyone including LE from I hear.

Posted: 5/26/2019 3:10:46 AM EST

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It’s Facebook isn’t it.

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Their stuff is already scary accurate. Would not surprise me in the least to find they were involved at every level with GOV or LE.

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Perfectly fine with the bold. I have zero interest in China-like surveillance of citizens in the US. Nobody needs to know who I am, who I'm with, where I'm going, etc., when I'm about my daily business and not breaking laws. Anonymity is gauche in the information age, but I'm good with people keeping as much as they can.

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That's how I feel.

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Maybe we should take the cue from antifa and cover our faces to prevent this. The only thing they got right, though it is because they are too chicken shit to own up to their actions.

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Except for all the places that have laws on the books to prevent you doing so already. Those that don't will if it becomes a thing.

Posted: 5/26/2019 3:16:54 AM EST

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Beards.....

Posted: 5/26/2019 3:40:57 AM EST

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Maybe we should take the cue from antifa and cover our faces to prevent this. The only thing they got right, though it is because they are too chicken shit to own up to their actions.

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ICP makeup.

IIRC the way they draw the face on, facial recognition has a hard time with it.

Of course the downside is that you’ll look like a juggalo. ?? ??

Posted: 5/26/2019 3:42:56 AM EST

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Beards.....

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Don’t really do anything to thwart it

Posted: 5/26/2019 5:25:34 AM EST

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i bet these cops have SCMODS

Posted: 5/26/2019 5:30:08 AM EST

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Perfectly fine with the bold. I have zero interest in China-like surveillance of citizens in the US. Nobody needs to know who I am, who I'm with, where I'm going, etc., when I'm about my daily business and not breaking laws. Anonymity is gauche in the information age, but I'm good with people keeping as much as they can.

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Why do you hate America, Comrade?

Posted: 5/26/2019 5:55:47 AM EST

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Which product? It's not classified info, you know.

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Suspect.id is in my App Store ????

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:07:08 AM EST

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LE only.

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Is that like Farmers Only?

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:11:42 AM EST

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Either way bama had the right to detain the dude untill he could be fingerprinted and identified right?

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:16:01 AM EST

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LE only.

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So what’s the app?

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What’s the difference in an Underscore and a Dash on this site?

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:16:39 AM EST

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So what’s the app?

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BackFace. Dirty Mike and the boys will be along shortly to confirm it.

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:18:10 AM EST

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You can impound cars for people not having a license? Jesus Christ glad I don't live in a "free state"

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ETA: Impound your ride, etc...since you don't have a DL

You can impound cars for people not having a license? Jesus Christ glad I don't live in a "free state"

I impounded many vehicles in NY because the driver had no license.

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:18:50 AM EST

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I sure feel safer

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No shit. What could possibly go wrong?

ETA: I'm just here to learn what a blatantly suspicious vehicle looks like.

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:23:45 AM EST

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On a serious note, I'm serious about civil liberties and think a lot of shit has gone too far but a driver with no ID at a traffic stop has already broken a law. I'm ok with facial rec being run on him/her to verify identify.

Now if it's used on the passengers because they don't have ID, just because they don't have ID, I'd have a problem with that. I'd also have a problem with something like mandatory fingerprinting and running prints, but using facial rec to match against warrants seems like a good compromise.

OP, can you speak about what databases and sources the app pulls from? Only active warrants or all mugshots?

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:25:34 AM EST

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No shit. What could possibly go wrong?

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Because every Constitutional scholar will tell you that “blatantly suspicious” is the same as reasonable suspicion or probable cause.

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:28:11 AM EST

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Are your gloves fingerless or do you have to take them off to use the app?

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:29:01 AM EST

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I’m safe until penis recognition software becomes a thing.

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You'll be ok, the first 5 gens of that software will require a minimum 2" schlong.

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:33:32 AM EST

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Why not just use a fingerprint scanner? Seems like it would be more accurate.

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:36:06 AM EST

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Maybe so but it's really helpful. For example if some guy says he's not a cop, you don't know if he's telling the truth or if he's a lying sack of manure. With this app, you can run his picture and if you get a hit from LE Only™ you know he's LE.

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So this is the po-lice version of Farmersonly.com?

ETA: Beat like a rented mule.....or a crack whore with an attitude. Whichever...

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:38:39 AM EST

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Yeah.... I'm no fan of facial recognition. just one more step toward a police state.

I recently read an article about ways of checking people for being predisposed to committing crime... We are willfully giving up what our forefathers created for us.

Both sides.

The Progs. wish to shred the constitution and favor communism. While the right seems to want Orwellian security.

Sorry Bama, I know your job is hard. And I am not getting down on you per say, but use of this tech, IMO, spits in the face of our founders. I couldn't use it out of principle.

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:42:01 AM EST

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You'll be ok, the first 5 gens of that software will require a minimum 2" schlong.

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Anything under 2" is considered a Shlort...

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:42:59 AM EST

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Traffic stop of blatantly suspicious vehicle and occupants.

Driver has no ID's. Run all his bullshit info. No joy.

I know he is lying.

Some stuff, new App, take his pic, run app, score some sheriff dept booking photos.

It's him. Warrants, high score on being a shit bag, make arrest.

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Posted: 5/26/2019 6:43:58 AM EST

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Yeah.... I'm no fan of facial recognition. just one more step toward a police state.

I recently read an article about ways of checking people for being predisposed to committing crime... We are willfully giving up what our forefathers created for us.

Both sides.

The Progs. wish to shred the constitution and favor communism. While the right seems to want Orwellian security.

Sorry Bama, I know your job is hard. And I am not getting down on you per say, but use of this tech, IMO, spits in the face of our founders. I couldn't use it out of principle.

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You did read the part where the driver had already broken the law, correct? Driving without proof of license is certainly probable cause for checking the identity of said driver to see if they are committing other crimes, such as driving on a suspended or revoked license, or in this case active warrants.

Get your panties unbunched, OP wasn't stopping people randomly on the street and scanning their faces.

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:46:15 AM EST

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ICP makeup.

IIRC the way they draw the face on, facial recognition has a hard time with it.

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Obstruction of governmental administration

https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2019/05/16/moment-man-fined-90-hiding-face-police-facial-recognition-cameras-9571463/amp/

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:46:46 AM EST

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If I tell you I'm "Rando McRando" and my birthday is obviously 20 years too young for me, what do you do?

Obviously you try to get the real info, but if I insist I'm Mr. McRando and you can't find me in your computer, what do you do? Would you eventually release me if I hadn't otherwise committed an arrestable offense?

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Depends on the reason for contact. If I have a legal reason to ask for your ID and you fail or refuse to provide it you can go to jail until you’re identified. Fingerprints would be the easiest way that we would get your ID.

Usually most people give in once they realize we have legal means to ask for ID and jail isn’t worth it or they give up because they are going to jail anyway on the warrants they are trying to hide from.

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:46:59 AM EST

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I impounded many vehicles in NY because the driver had no license.

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For straight unlicensed, never seen that.

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:48:16 AM EST

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Why not just use a fingerprint scanner? Seems like it would be more accurate.

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Probably can't force prints on a traffic stop, do they even have portable ones?

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:50:15 AM EST

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Way to go. One less dirtbag on the street is a score for the good people.

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:51:11 AM EST

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No shit. What could possibly go wrong?

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I drove an old POS ranger at 19, got pulled over 6 times with no tickets. When I bought a new car, never got pulled over.

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:53:07 AM EST

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Probably can't force prints on a traffic stop, do they even have portable ones?

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SEEK 2

I know for a fact that you can get a viable iris scan off of a dead guy as long as he's only been dead for about an hour. Sometimes you have to put a little water on the eyeball though.

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:53:42 AM EST

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Probably can't force prints on a traffic stop, do they even have portable ones?

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The Army has a ~~bulky~~ I mean ruggedized print and iris scanner with built in database. I'd assume that someone has built a more ergonomic version that can Bluetooth link to a cop cars computer.

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:54:24 AM EST

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For straight unlicensed, never seen that.

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I impounded many vehicles in NY because the driver had no license.

For straight unlicensed, never seen that.

We used to do it all the time when the driver wanted to be an ass.

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:54:37 AM EST

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Probably can't force prints on a traffic stop, do they even have portable ones?

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Definitely do have portable ones. They aren’t cheap and a lot of places don’t have them.

Can’t force fingerprints anymore than you can force them to ID themselves. But a trip to jail and charges that require fingerprints prior to release will get those fingerprints anyway ordered by statute or the judge.

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:56:08 AM EST

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You did read the part where the driver had already broken the law, correct? Driving without proof of license is certainly probable cause for checking the identity of said driver to see if they are committing other crimes, such as driving on a suspended or revoked license, or in this case active warrants.

Get your panties unbunched, OP wasn't stopping people randomly on the street and scanning their faces.

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Never forgot your wallet eh? Sorry, I've been through it. Stopped, given shit because an officer thought I wasn't me when I gave my ID number. I got lucky, a second officer showed up and knew me from my work at the time.

I don't care if you feel my panties are bunched up... 15 years ago most of you would have bitch about active plate scanning... now you welcome it. Give it time... facial scanning of everyone around a car will become the norm in 5 to 10 years... public domain and all that shit.

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:57:39 AM EST

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You can impound cars for people not having a license? Jesus Christ glad I don't live in a "free state"

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Well, you must provide proof of insurance if they can’t find it in the state insurance data base. No insurance, no operate the vehicle on a public road way. By by car. $400 to $500 to get it out of the impound lot, not including your missing tools, personal effects, spare tire or any auto parts the good public serpents need.

Posted: 5/26/2019 6:59:42 AM EST

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Because every Constitutional scholar will tell you that “blatantly suspicious” is the same as reasonable suspicion or probable cause.

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No shit. What could possibly go wrong?

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Because every Constitutional scholar will tell you that “blatantly suspicious” is the same as reasonable suspicion or probable cause.

I'm thinkin early 80's dodge Omni with fuk the polise spray painted in red across both sides. Or maybe a Christian fish? BFL?

Posted: 5/26/2019 7:00:20 AM EST

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Definitely do have portable ones. They aren’t cheap and a lot of places don’t have them.

Can’t force fingerprints anymore than you can force them to ID themselves. But a trip to jail and charges that require fingerprints prior to release will get those fingerprints anyway ordered by statute or the judge.

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Technology is changing rapidly and prices are way down. The SEEK family of devices are expensive but other solutions are becoming viable. Sociometrics is a company that markets a software application ("slapshot") that essentially turns any smart phone into a biometric collection device. It's relatively cheap and effective, accessing the AFIS DB. Every officer is a collector.