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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:04:38 PM EDT
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For those not familiar - Mapelsville is a small town at a crossroad in Alabama with a population under 1000 (my folks live there). Yes, it's a lovely small southern town about equidistant from Montgomery, Tuscoloosa and Birmingham and pretty near one of the national forests. Lucky guys! It's also a town in which there are a number of still-standing small early-period churches. So, it's very picturesque...and rural. Not taking anything away from the people who live there or Alabama itself, by any means, but Mapelsville is about the closest you'll get to the definition of the end of the road or the middle of nowhere. I read today that the probability of a terrorist killing anyone with gunfire or explosives outside of a major metropolitan city in America was less than being killed by the same weapons by a native American toddler. So, what's a quiet little country town practicing infantry tactics for? Is it militia-related or something? Best, LF |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:06:48 PM EDT
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The SRT team my boy is on does this kind of thing too. One day a month is some kind of training. Live fire at specialized schools, when funds allow.. Sim rounds going both ways entry drills that they exercise themselves, as well as just target type practice. Goes in spurts, of course, but they sometimes get way more 'practice' than they want while on the job. Biggest limitation of extra training is, of course, dollars. I'm obviously biased, but my preference is that for 'offensive' type work cops should be getting what they need. I don't care if anybody else can get it or not or what kind of discount Depts get on the over the counter stuff. When you've got civilians, especially kids, in the lines of fire, there should be no holds barred in ending the situation with the least loss of life. Local Depts are the first, most critical line of defense to the innocents that the scumbags prey on. The LEO's equipment & training is the biggest, most important deterrent there is to that kind of an event happening in the first place. Skum go for the soft targets where they think they can do the most damage. ANYbody who claims or has any conservative political tendencys at all should be all over having a strong local defense for any situation. Why in the world should we make ourselves open for attack & force ourselves to wait for somebody else to come save us? It's no different for our schools defense than our national defense, in this age. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:10:12 PM EDT
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First, I don't think that people are going to flip their shit about this. We all realize that the world is a more dangerous place and as San Bernadino and Paris showed, the terrorists are changing tactics. Police will be asked to perform as infantry against teams with rifles acting as soldiers, they need some training and gear to meet the task. Second, people bitch about militarization because they are ignorant of the threat or they have experienced an overly gung-ho cop in battle dress serving and protecting the shit out of them and it leaves a bad taste in their mouth. The wrong house no knocks, the no knocks for misdemeanor citations and the general asshattery of the wannabe tacti-ninjas have led to the "Oh no militarization!" cries, not cargo pockets or AR15s. (The MRAPs may have something to do with it though.  )
It's not the clothes, it's not the equipment and it's not the training that causes problems. As with most things, it's assholes that cause problems. I for one am glad that these men are taking their jobs seriously enough to seek out and do additional training. God speed and protect them. Violent crime is decreasing. 
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:15:19 PM EDT
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I really don't see anything to be outraged about.
When it comes right down to it the tools and tactics of those who go where the enemy is and take him on in person don't change very much, regardless of whether that is local LEO, FBI HRT, or CAG. Even in a mass shooting, they'll still be tasked with taking a piece of ground, holding it, digging the enemy out of their holes, and forcing them then and there to surrender or die. Yeah, they need "infantry" training. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:17:28 PM EDT
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Yes, it's a lovely small southern town about equidistant from Montgomery, Tuscoloosa and Birmingham and pretty near one of the national forests. Lucky guys! It's also a town in which there are a number of still-standing small early-period churches. So, it's very picturesque...and rural. Not taking anything away from the people who live there or Alabama itself, by any means, but Mapelsville is about the closest you'll get to the definition of the end of the road or the middle of nowhere. I read today that the probability of a terrorist killing anyone with gunfire or explosives outside of a major metropolitan city in America was less than being killed by the same weapons by a native American toddler. So, what's a quiet little country town practicing infantry tactics for? Is it militia-related or something? Best, LF Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For those not familiar - Mapelsville is a small town at a crossroad in Alabama with a population under 1000 (my folks live there). Yes, it's a lovely small southern town about equidistant from Montgomery, Tuscoloosa and Birmingham and pretty near one of the national forests. Lucky guys! It's also a town in which there are a number of still-standing small early-period churches. So, it's very picturesque...and rural. Not taking anything away from the people who live there or Alabama itself, by any means, but Mapelsville is about the closest you'll get to the definition of the end of the road or the middle of nowhere. I read today that the probability of a terrorist killing anyone with gunfire or explosives outside of a major metropolitan city in America was less than being killed by the same weapons by a native American toddler. So, what's a quiet little country town practicing infantry tactics for? Is it militia-related or something? Best, LF One scenario? Small towns is where 'can' have the highest percentage of drugs in a population. The parents, the kids, he'll, even some of the teachers & staff! Get a wacked out redneck ( I is one too ) on drugs, with a weapon thats decided they weren't treated fair & that they've got a legitimate ( in their mind ) axe to grind & you're off... You don't need an imported foreign terrorist to mess up an otherwise good day... |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:27:12 PM EDT
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Cute.
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:33:45 PM EDT
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I still say it's Cosplay for grownups. Ever been to a Carbine Course?
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:34:24 PM EDT
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I still say it's Cosplay for grownups. Ever been to a Carbine Course? It's where I had that epiphany.
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:35:46 PM EDT
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I'd like to see an overlay of both CCW/CCL issued & also, separately, increased police training over that graph.. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:36:15 PM EDT
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Cute. lol |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:36:18 PM EDT
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I don't think "militarization" has much to do with that. We weren't militarized and we despised the public.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I live a few miles from there. I also have reservations about militarization but I am more concerned about the US/THEM mindset that it fosters. I don't think "militarization" has much to do with that. We weren't militarized and we despised the public. CONTACT FRONT! |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:36:20 PM EDT
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First, I don't think that people are going to flip their shit about this. We all realize that the world is a more dangerous place and as San Bernadino and Paris showed, the terrorists are changing tactics. Police will be asked to perform as infantry against teams with rifles acting as soldiers, they need some training and gear to meet the task. Second, people bitch about militarization because they are ignorant of the threat or they have experienced an overly gung-ho cop in battle dress serving and protecting the shit out of them and it leaves a bad taste in their mouth. The wrong house no knocks, the no knocks for misdemeanor citations and the general asshattery of the wannabe tacti-ninjas have led to the "Oh no militarization!" cries, not cargo pockets or AR15s. (The MRAPs may have something to do with it though. )
It's not the clothes, it's not the equipment and it's not the training that causes problems. As with most things, it's assholes that cause problems. I for one am glad that these men are taking their jobs seriously enough to seek out and do additional training. God speed and protect them. Violent crime is decreasing. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/violent-crime/violent-crime-topic-page/13violentcrimeoffensefigure.gif Cool! Go show that chart to The San Bernadino city council. 
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:37:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's where I had that epiphany. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I still say it's Cosplay for grownups. Ever been to a Carbine Course? It's where I had that epiphany.  |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:37:58 PM EDT
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It's where I had that epiphany. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I still say it's Cosplay for grownups. Ever been to a Carbine Course? It's where I had that epiphany. It's fun to see ehat they start with and compare it to what they finish with. 
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:41:13 PM EDT
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Cool! Go show that chart to The San Bernadino city council. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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First, I don't think that people are going to flip their shit about this. We all realize that the world is a more dangerous place and as San Bernadino and Paris showed, the terrorists are changing tactics. Police will be asked to perform as infantry against teams with rifles acting as soldiers, they need some training and gear to meet the task. Second, people bitch about militarization because they are ignorant of the threat or they have experienced an overly gung-ho cop in battle dress serving and protecting the shit out of them and it leaves a bad taste in their mouth. The wrong house no knocks, the no knocks for misdemeanor citations and the general asshattery of the wannabe tacti-ninjas have led to the "Oh no militarization!" cries, not cargo pockets or AR15s. (The MRAPs may have something to do with it though. )
It's not the clothes, it's not the equipment and it's not the training that causes problems. As with most things, it's assholes that cause problems. I for one am glad that these men are taking their jobs seriously enough to seek out and do additional training. God speed and protect them. Violent crime is decreasing. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/violent-crime/violent-crime-topic-page/13violentcrimeoffensefigure.gif Cool! Go show that chart to The San Bernadino city council. That's not an answer, though. It's a high visibility outlier. You're more likely to die in an auto accident (offshore!) than a terrorist attack. Now, a random mugging or domestic dispute? That might be something to worry about if you want to get worked up over everyday dangers. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:42:35 PM EDT
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Agreed. But I think that better firearm control, including shooting, should come first. Before big bucks get spent on 'infantry' training, teach your cops how to handle a firearm, both pistol and rifle. Spend a few $$ on ammo and shoot on a regular basis. Once everybody knows how to shoot, and when not to, then move to advanced training like this. I realize that the guys in the article are ex-.mil, but are they door-kickers or office workers? If every PD that was contemplating such training, just did some serious gun control, there might be fewer executions conducted in the streets, like we see posted here, every week. Do not get me wrong, all training is good, and every PD needs more of it, but from what I see, the basics are getting skipped, meaning the repetitive shooting stuff. If more cops fired more ammo in practice, maybe less ammo would get fired incorrectly, on scene. Just less 'booger hooks on bang switches' would be a good start. IMHO YMMV Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Meh, better than departments who give their cops no training. Agreed. But I think that better firearm control, including shooting, should come first. Before big bucks get spent on 'infantry' training, teach your cops how to handle a firearm, both pistol and rifle. Spend a few $$ on ammo and shoot on a regular basis. Once everybody knows how to shoot, and when not to, then move to advanced training like this. I realize that the guys in the article are ex-.mil, but are they door-kickers or office workers? If every PD that was contemplating such training, just did some serious gun control, there might be fewer executions conducted in the streets, like we see posted here, every week. Do not get me wrong, all training is good, and every PD needs more of it, but from what I see, the basics are getting skipped, meaning the repetitive shooting stuff. If more cops fired more ammo in practice, maybe less ammo would get fired incorrectly, on scene. Just less 'booger hooks on bang switches' would be a good start. IMHO YMMV Agreed. Add physical fitness training with shooting skills, the public would be better served. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:45:08 PM EDT
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LOL! So true and they were a bunch of good guys even if they were playing dress up.
If these training classes had a "least tactical" award I would win it every time.
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:45:33 PM EDT
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That's not an answer, though. It's a high visibility outlier. You're more likely to die in an auto accident (offshore!) than a terrorist attack. Now, a random mugging or domestic dispute? That might be something to worry about if you want to get worked up over everyday dangers. With a weekend's worth of training on basic teams and tactics, the average officer will be more well suited to handle mass shooting type events. We prepare for all kinds of low probability things. I think a weekend's worth of training is a good tradeoff to end an active shooter threat faster. *shrug* Might save a few lives. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:45:49 PM EDT
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I doubt it would surprise many here and most don't want to bring it up really as decreasing crime rates boost our pro gun message, but many departments seriously cook the books on crime reporting. It is in the command staff's best interest to look as effective as possible and to show continual improvement during their tenure. Lots of things get reclassified or even just disappeared. St Louis city had a shitstorm over it about 10 years ago where it was revealed that they would routinely downgrade the level of offenses and even complete "memos" on incidents instead of police reports. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:46:35 PM EDT
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I am all one for being prepared but it is just one more instance of the militarization of police. And it has me wondering why a school? It reminds me of what col Dave Grossman said about Chechnya So... you have an AR. You compete in 3-gun and go to various shooting schools. Militarization of the population? Is that somehow wrong, too??? Now, let's say one or two of your neighbors with the same hobby goes off the rails and robs a bank. You REALLY expect officer polyester friendly with a pistol to be able to apprehend them? |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:46:57 PM EDT
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I always laugh at the camo.
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:47:14 PM EDT
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Honestly, the police should probably have some basic fire and maneuver training. It's sorely lacking now and would obviously be useful in some active shooter type scenarios. For most agencies anything other than stacking on a door becomes disorganized clown shoes. lol physical standards would be a million times more beneficial to them than swat training. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:47:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If these training classes had a "least tactical" award I would win it every time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LOL! So true and they were a bunch of good guys even if they were playing dress up. If these training classes had a "least tactical" award I would win it every time. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:47:37 PM EDT
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LOL! So true and they were a bunch of good guys even if they were playing dress up.
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I still say it's Cosplay for grownups. Ever been to a Carbine Course? It's where I had that epiphany.
For sure. Always fun to run around and shoot. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:47:52 PM EDT
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I always laugh at the camo. I always laugh when people criticize it. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:48:17 PM EDT
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They have on scary 6 pocket pants
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:49:01 PM EDT
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lol physical standards would be a million times more beneficial to them than swat training. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Honestly, the police should probably have some basic fire and maneuver training. It's sorely lacking now and would obviously be useful in some active shooter type scenarios. For most agencies anything other than stacking on a door becomes disorganized clown shoes. lol physical standards would be a million times more beneficial to them than swat training. What if they're already in good physical condition? |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:57:13 PM EDT
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"Cover me."
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:57:30 PM EDT
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First, I don't think that people are going to flip their shit about this. We all realize that the world is a more dangerous place and as San Bernadino and Paris showed, the terrorists are changing tactics. Police will be asked to perform as infantry against teams with rifles acting as soldiers, they need some training and gear to meet the task. Second, people bitch about militarization because they are ignorant of the threat or they have experienced an overly gung-ho cop in battle dress serving and protecting the shit out of them and it leaves a bad taste in their mouth. The wrong house no knocks, the no knocks for misdemeanor citations and the general asshattery of the wannabe tacti-ninjas have led to the "Oh no militarization!" cries, not cargo pockets or AR15s. (The MRAPs may have something to do with it though. )
It's not the clothes, it's not the equipment and it's not the training that causes problems. As with most things, it's assholes that cause problems. I for one am glad that these men are taking their jobs seriously enough to seek out and do additional training. God speed and protect them. Violent crime is decreasing. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/violent-crime/violent-crime-topic-page/13violentcrimeoffensefigure.gif Is it a coincidence that graph is relative to Obamas presidency? Maybe the amount of govt handouts have made the criminals lazy? Maybe we better all start training more so when Trump takes office and the subsidies are cut we will be able to fend off the rise in criminal activity.
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Posted: 12/21/2015 3:58:44 PM EDT
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One scenario? Small towns is where 'can' have the highest percentage of drugs in a population. The parents, the kids, he'll, even some of the teachers & staff! Get a wacked out redneck ( I is one too ) on drugs, with a weapon thats decided they weren't treated fair & that they've got a legitimate ( in their mind ) axe to grind & you're off... You don't need an imported foreign terrorist to mess up an otherwise good day... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For those not familiar - Mapelsville is a small town at a crossroad in Alabama with a population under 1000 (my folks live there). Yes, it's a lovely small southern town about equidistant from Montgomery, Tuscoloosa and Birmingham and pretty near one of the national forests. Lucky guys! It's also a town in which there are a number of still-standing small early-period churches. So, it's very picturesque...and rural. Not taking anything away from the people who live there or Alabama itself, by any means, but Mapelsville is about the closest you'll get to the definition of the end of the road or the middle of nowhere. I read today that the probability of a terrorist killing anyone with gunfire or explosives outside of a major metropolitan city in America was less than being killed by the same weapons by a native American toddler. So, what's a quiet little country town practicing infantry tactics for? Is it militia-related or something? Best, LF One scenario? Small towns is where 'can' have the highest percentage of drugs in a population. The parents, the kids, he'll, even some of the teachers & staff! Get a wacked out redneck ( I is one too ) on drugs, with a weapon thats decided they weren't treated fair & that they've got a legitimate ( in their mind ) axe to grind & you're off... You don't need an imported foreign terrorist to mess up an otherwise good day... First meth lab discovered where in Chilton County? Maplesville. Blew his trailer up. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:00:27 PM EDT
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I always laugh at the camo. I always laugh when people criticize it. I'm not going to do that type training in class A's. Shit costs to much and tears up easily. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:01:28 PM EDT
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In before the Mraps roll over onto in to the thread. Fixed.
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:02:54 PM EDT
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I'm not going to do that type training in class A's. Shit costs to much and tears up easily. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I always laugh at the camo. I always laugh when people criticize it. I'm not going to do that type training in class A's. Shit costs to much and tears up easily. Exactly. I can get camo shirts for $10-15 a pop, use them up and throw them away. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:04:48 PM EDT
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Good for them. Be prepared. I do, however, hope they train to be prepared for armed citizens that may be defending themselves. This will be very important if anything did break out. Police need to get out of the mindset that everyone who has a gun is a target. Small town LE is generally very used to its citizenry being armed. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:06:13 PM EDT
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Small town LE is generally very used to its citizenry being armed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good for them. Be prepared. I do, however, hope they train to be prepared for armed citizens that may be defending themselves. This will be very important if anything did break out. Police need to get out of the mindset that everyone who has a gun is a target. Small town LE is generally very used to its citizenry being armed. Yep. We pretty much assume it. No big deal. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:06:24 PM EDT
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If these training classes had a "least tactical" award I would win it every time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL! So true and they were a bunch of good guys even if they were playing dress up.
If these training classes had a "least tactical" award I would win it every time. I can't help but think of this place when I attend a civilian open class and the things I see. Gucci tactical. Generally great guys. I look like a hobo with my mismatched stuff. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:07:38 PM EDT
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Small town LE is generally very used to its citizenry being armed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good for them. Be prepared. I do, however, hope they train to be prepared for armed citizens that may be defending themselves. This will be very important if anything did break out. Police need to get out of the mindset that everyone who has a gun is a target. Small town LE is generally very used to its citizenry being armed. That area, I bet there are guns in almost every home. I would say 100%. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:08:02 PM EDT
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I can't help but think of this place when I attend a civilian open class and the things I see. Gucci tactical. Generally great guys. I look like a hobo with my mismatched stuff. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL! So true and they were a bunch of good guys even if they were playing dress up.
If these training classes had a "least tactical" award I would win it every time. I can't help but think of this place when I attend a civilian open class and the things I see. Gucci tactical. Generally great guys. I look like a hobo with my mismatched stuff. I dunno man, that rifle you had last year was  .
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:08:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. We pretty much assume it. No big deal. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Good for them. Be prepared. I do, however, hope they train to be prepared for armed citizens that may be defending themselves. This will be very important if anything did break out. Police need to get out of the mindset that everyone who has a gun is a target. Small town LE is generally very used to its citizenry being armed. Yep. We pretty much assume it. No big deal. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:11:03 PM EDT
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Hell, we encourage it at my PD. It is a common suggestion from the city council on down to us that you be armed in case of an emergency. That's how it should be. Your lines of defense are: 1) You 2) Your family 3) Cops 4) SWAT |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:11:35 PM EDT
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So, what's a quiet little country town practicing infantry tactics for? Terrorists are everywhere! |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:16:42 PM EDT
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I'd like to see an overlay of both CCW/CCL issued & also, separately, increased police training over that graph.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I'd like to see an overlay of both CCW/CCL issued & also, separately, increased police training over that graph.. 
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:20:12 PM EDT
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Is it a coincidence that graph is relative to Obamas presidency? Maybe the amount of govt handouts have made the criminals lazy? Maybe we better all start training more so when Trump takes office and the subsidies are cut we will be able to fend off the rise in criminal activity.
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First, I don't think that people are going to flip their shit about this. We all realize that the world is a more dangerous place and as San Bernadino and Paris showed, the terrorists are changing tactics. Police will be asked to perform as infantry against teams with rifles acting as soldiers, they need some training and gear to meet the task. Second, people bitch about militarization because they are ignorant of the threat or they have experienced an overly gung-ho cop in battle dress serving and protecting the shit out of them and it leaves a bad taste in their mouth. The wrong house no knocks, the no knocks for misdemeanor citations and the general asshattery of the wannabe tacti-ninjas have led to the "Oh no militarization!" cries, not cargo pockets or AR15s. (The MRAPs may have something to do with it though. )
It's not the clothes, it's not the equipment and it's not the training that causes problems. As with most things, it's assholes that cause problems. I for one am glad that these men are taking their jobs seriously enough to seek out and do additional training. God speed and protect them. Violent crime is decreasing. https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/violent-crime/violent-crime-topic-page/13violentcrimeoffensefigure.gif Is it a coincidence that graph is relative to Obamas presidency? Maybe the amount of govt handouts have made the criminals lazy? Maybe we better all start training more so when Trump takes office and the subsidies are cut we will be able to fend off the rise in criminal activity.
Violent crime trend is down since the early '90s, if not longer. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:20:19 PM EDT
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So, what's a quiet little country town practicing infantry tactics for? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For those not familiar - Mapelsville is a small town at a crossroad in Alabama with a population under 1000 (my folks live there). So, what's a quiet little country town practicing infantry tactics for? Jade Helm. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:21:18 PM EDT
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Infantry...snicker...
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:22:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's how it should be. Your lines of defense are: 1) You 2) Your family 3) Cops 4) SWAT Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hell, we encourage it at my PD. It is a common suggestion from the city council on down to us that you be armed in case of an emergency. That's how it should be. Your lines of defense are: 1) You 2) Your family 3) Cops 4) SWAT |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:32:45 PM EDT
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Exactly. I can get camo shirts for $10-15 a pop, use them up and throw them away. That's what IT vendor shirts from conferences are for. That or painting.
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:34:27 PM EDT
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Exactly. I can get camo shirts for $10-15 a pop, use them up and throw them away. That's what IT vendor shirts from conferences are for. That or painting. So true. I usually ask for a XXXXXXL, so I can cut it up and get more tie-offs for the garden. |
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:37:36 PM EDT
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I dunno man, that rifle you had last year was .
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I can't help but think of this place when I attend a civilian open class and the things I see. Gucci tactical. Generally great guys. I look like a hobo with my mismatched stuff. I dunno man, that rifle you had last year was .
The money I save shopping the closeout section of LAPG is spent on other things.
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Posted: 12/21/2015 4:37:58 PM EDT
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So true. I usually ask for a XXXXXXL, so I can cut it up and get more tie-offs for the garden. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Exactly. I can get camo shirts for $10-15 a pop, use them up and throw them away. That's what IT vendor shirts from conferences are for. That or painting. So true. I usually ask for a XXXXXXL, so I can cut it up and get more tie-offs for the garden. And they stock plenty of those at tech conferences. 
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