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Posted: 11/12/2017 4:39:42 PM EDT
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Russia did hack the DNC. We're just trying to figure out the details of the second part being a possibility.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good-thats what should have happened. Now we should do the same and complain about Russian meddling in our election.Thats how this works. The problem is when some ,instead of complaining about it, try to cover it up or otherwise overlook it. We must speak up so it doesn't happen again. The only facts we are receiving about real Russian meddling involves a known Russian operative working in conjunction with paid surrogates of the Clinton's and the DNC, who paid to create a dossier loaded with false information about Trump and trying to frame Trump. You lot are ignoring that entirely. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 4:41:00 PM EDT
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Russia did hack the DNC. We're just trying to figure out the details of the second part being a possibility. I'm sure Russia hacked, or at least attempted to hack the DNC, I'd expect it to occur daily. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 4:44:04 PM EDT
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Ok maybe I should have been more clear. Hack and release the data to Wikileaks to disseminate. I'm sure Russia hacked, or at least attempted to hack the DNC, I'd expect it to occur daily. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Russia did hack the DNC. We're just trying to figure out the details of the second part being a possibility. I'm sure Russia hacked, or at least attempted to hack the DNC, I'd expect it to occur daily. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 4:44:25 PM EDT
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Russia did hack the DNC. We're just trying to figure out the details of the second part being a possibility. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good-thats what should have happened. Now we should do the same and complain about Russian meddling in our election.Thats how this works. The problem is when some ,instead of complaining about it, try to cover it up or otherwise overlook it. We must speak up so it doesn't happen again. The only facts we are receiving about real Russian meddling involves a known Russian operative working in conjunction with paid surrogates of the Clinton's and the DNC, who paid to create a dossier loaded with false information about Trump and trying to frame Trump. You lot are ignoring that entirely. A "high probability" doesn't mean they did it. how could they even determine that when they never touched the dnc server? |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 4:46:53 PM EDT
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So they hacked them, but then they weren't the ones that released it to wikileaks? But I guess we'll never know for sure, since the DNC doesn't want it investigated, and neither do our intelligence services. How strange. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 4:47:50 PM EDT
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Russia did hack the DNC. We're just trying to figure out the details of the second part being a possibility. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 4:48:32 PM EDT
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Each indictment, may have multiple defendants... Anyone want to guess how many total defendant's in the ~400 indictments... I'll start... Um.... 1287 folks... Don't keep changing subjects by adding nonsense. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 4:52:55 PM EDT
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That's not what you want to do. You want to frame Russia as hacking the DNC, and frame Trump as being involved or at-least undermine his legitimacy. The only facts we are receiving about real Russian meddling involves a known Russian operative working in conjunction with paid surrogates of the Clinton's and the DNC, who paid to create a dossier loaded with false information about Trump and trying to frame Trump. You lot are ignoring that entirely. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good-thats what should have happened. Now we should do the same and complain about Russian meddling in our election.Thats how this works. The problem is when some ,instead of complaining about it, try to cover it up or otherwise overlook it. We must speak up so it doesn't happen again. The only facts we are receiving about real Russian meddling involves a known Russian operative working in conjunction with paid surrogates of the Clinton's and the DNC, who paid to create a dossier loaded with false information about Trump and trying to frame Trump. You lot are ignoring that entirely. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 4:55:06 PM EDT
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You don't have a f------ clue,do you.Just BS. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 5:04:25 PM EDT
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You don't have a f------ clue,do you.Just BS. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 5:06:43 PM EDT
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You don't have a f------ clue,do you.Just BS. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good-thats what should have happened. Now we should do the same and complain about Russian meddling in our election.Thats how this works. The problem is when some ,instead of complaining about it, try to cover it up or otherwise overlook it. We must speak up so it doesn't happen again. The only facts we are receiving about real Russian meddling involves a known Russian operative (Russian lawyer sometimes Fusion GPS employee Natalia Veselnitskaya) working in conjunction with paid surrogates of the Clinton's (co-owner of Fusion GPS Glenn Simpson) and the DNC (same players), who paid to create a dossier loaded with false information about Trump (provided by former MI6 agent Steele's unverified accusations obtained from real Russians to construct the piss dossier) and trying to frame Trump (with collusion by the bait and switch by Russian lawyer sometimes Fusion GPS employee Natalia Veselnitskaya offering opposition research on Hillary to Trump Jr) . You lot are ignoring that entirely. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 5:07:23 PM EDT
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What legal jeopardy might Meowler have ---from his interactions with Hillery and other Swamp dealings?
What is his observable financial position vs. his likely income? |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 5:10:37 PM EDT
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What legal jeopardy might Meowler have ---from his interactions with Hillery and other Swamp dealings? What is his observable financial position vs. his likely income? |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 5:12:02 PM EDT
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I've said from the beginning that that hack should be investigated
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Posted: 11/12/2017 5:41:19 PM EDT
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Russia did hack the DNC. We're just trying to figure out the details of the second part being a possibility. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good-thats what should have happened. Now we should do the same and complain about Russian meddling in our election.Thats how this works. The problem is when some ,instead of complaining about it, try to cover it up or otherwise overlook it. We must speak up so it doesn't happen again. The only facts we are receiving about real Russian meddling involves a known Russian operative working in conjunction with paid surrogates of the Clinton's and the DNC, who paid to create a dossier loaded with false information about Trump and trying to frame Trump. You lot are ignoring that entirely. 
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Posted: 11/12/2017 5:43:18 PM EDT
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Good-thats what should have happened. Now we should do the same and complain about Russian meddling in our election.Thats how this works. The problem is when some ,instead of complaining about it, try to cover it up or otherwise overlook it. We must speak up so it doesn't happen again. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 5:43:23 PM EDT
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You don't have a f------ clue,do you.Just BS. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good-thats what should have happened. Now we should do the same and complain about Russian meddling in our election.Thats how this works. The problem is when some ,instead of complaining about it, try to cover it up or otherwise overlook it. We must speak up so it doesn't happen again. The only facts we are receiving about real Russian meddling involves a known Russian operative working in conjunction with paid surrogates of the Clinton's and the DNC, who paid to create a dossier loaded with false information about Trump and trying to frame Trump. You lot are ignoring that entirely. 
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Posted: 11/12/2017 5:46:36 PM EDT
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So they hacked them, but then they weren't the ones that released it to wikileaks? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Russia did hack the DNC. We're just trying to figure out the details of the second part being a possibility. I'm sure Russia hacked, or at least attempted to hack the DNC, I'd expect it to occur daily. Assange says otherwise. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 7:15:04 PM EDT
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Then why won't the DNC hand over their servers to prove it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good-thats what should have happened. Now we should do the same and complain about Russian meddling in our election.Thats how this works. The problem is when some ,instead of complaining about it, try to cover it up or otherwise overlook it. We must speak up so it doesn't happen again. The only facts we are receiving about real Russian meddling involves a known Russian operative working in conjunction with paid surrogates of the Clinton's and the DNC, who paid to create a dossier loaded with false information about Trump and trying to frame Trump. You lot are ignoring that entirely. 
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Posted: 11/12/2017 7:17:13 PM EDT
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You think the US government supporting gay rights / women's rights NGOs in foreign countries is comparable to what Russia did to the US in 2016? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Putin didn't need active measures to fill Iran with s300s and s400s, our govt let him do that, just like the long list of shit Russia was doing. Russians snuck into Ukraine right under our IC's nose, sure they did. Russians get major Uranium contract while committing fraud and bribery. Russians hacked DNC and Obama waits to take action. Manafort was investigated by FBI, that is until he hired Podesta, then the investigation stopped. Who was the FBI director? Same govt that watched ISIS spread all over the ME, and now in less than a year they're almost wiped out, and it all started with ending the CIA's rebel program. All just coincidence, and an inept IC. Now the designers of that program are in a tizzy over "muh russia"? clinton & obama are a couple of naive dolts. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 7:21:52 PM EDT
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According to CrowdStrike. which is run by a bunch of Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good-thats what should have happened. Now we should do the same and complain about Russian meddling in our election.Thats how this works. The problem is when some ,instead of complaining about it, try to cover it up or otherwise overlook it. We must speak up so it doesn't happen again. The only facts we are receiving about real Russian meddling involves a known Russian operative working in conjunction with paid surrogates of the Clinton's and the DNC, who paid to create a dossier loaded with false information about Trump and trying to frame Trump. You lot are ignoring that entirely. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 7:25:57 PM EDT
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You are equating campaign donations to active clandestine interference in election process by a foreign intel service? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Foreign donations to foundation raise major ethical questions for Hillary Clinton http://www.commonsenseevaluation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Foreign-Country-Donations-To-The-Clinton-Foundation.jpg That's what I thought. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 7:27:11 PM EDT
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It was ironic that the first thing Obama did after getting in office was use the power of the US government to seed revolutions in foreign countries. Obama spent his life bitching about American presidents using our intelligence agencies to seed revolutions in foreign countries with little care for the consequences of those countries citizens. Yet the first thing Obama did after getting in office is the exact same thing. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 7:30:06 PM EDT
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You are equating campaign donations to active clandestine interference in election process by a foreign intel service? And of course the media is saying the same thing you are. What they did for her is OK..... |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 7:33:38 PM EDT
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You got the proof of those accusations yet? That's what I thought. Here, let me do that for you..... |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 7:39:16 PM EDT
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How many links would you like me to post for you? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You got the proof of those accusations yet? That's what I thought. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 7:47:07 PM EDT
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As many links with factual proof, not accusations, as you got. Sorry do not have time or space to list them all..... Here let me do that for you..... |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 8:11:05 PM EDT
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It was ironic that the first thing Obama did after getting in office was use the power of the US government to seed revolutions in foreign countries. Obama spent his life bitching about American presidents using our intelligence agencies to seed revolutions in foreign countries with little care for the consequences of those countries citizens. Yet the first thing Obama did after getting in office is the exact same thing. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 8:14:57 PM EDT
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You don't have a f------ clue,do you.Just BS. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good-thats what should have happened. Now we should do the same and complain about Russian meddling in our election.Thats how this works. The problem is when some ,instead of complaining about it, try to cover it up or otherwise overlook it. We must speak up so it doesn't happen again. The only facts we are receiving about real Russian meddling involves a known Russian operative working in conjunction with paid surrogates of the Clinton's and the DNC, who paid to create a dossier loaded with false information about Trump and trying to frame Trump. You lot are ignoring that entirely. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 8:18:38 PM EDT
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About 551,000 results (0.31 seconds) Sorry do not have time or space to list them all..... Here let me do that for you..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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As many links with factual proof, not accusations, as you got. Sorry do not have time or space to list them all..... Here let me do that for you..... 
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Posted: 11/12/2017 8:22:53 PM EDT
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I mean it is kind of weird Russia is the one country Trump can't seem to say a bad word about. I'm sure it's just a coincidence. 
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Posted: 11/12/2017 8:23:44 PM EDT
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I mean it is kind of weird Russia is the one country Trump can't seem to say a bad word about. I'm sure it's just a coincidence. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It was ironic that the first thing Obama did after getting in office was use the power of the US government to seed revolutions in foreign countries. Obama spent his life bitching about American presidents using our intelligence agencies to seed revolutions in foreign countries with little care for the consequences of those countries citizens. Yet the first thing Obama did after getting in office is the exact same thing. Shit, Bill went over there and made big bucks for himself and the "clinton foundation" snuggling up to them and giving speeches and the obama admin handed over the Crimean peninsula on a silver platter. Were you guys on here complaining about "muh russia" during that time period? How about when obama bent over and let Putin butt fuck him and dictate the current mideast situation? |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 8:27:56 PM EDT
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I mean it is kind of weird Russia is the one country Trump can't seem to say a bad word about. I'm sure it's just a coincidence. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It was ironic that the first thing Obama did after getting in office was use the power of the US government to seed revolutions in foreign countries. Obama spent his life bitching about American presidents using our intelligence agencies to seed revolutions in foreign countries with little care for the consequences of those countries citizens. Yet the first thing Obama did after getting in office is the exact same thing. We were assured by your side that russia posed no threat and was great! Guess that was back around the time your gal was selling them Uranium!! 
I mean your side thought the russians were good enough to collude with them, and then claim Trump did 
And then convince you to carry their water SAD! M A G A 
Did you even used to be conservative? Or have you always been a Liberal? Genuine question. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 8:29:37 PM EDT
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I mean it is kind of weird Russia is the one country Trump can't seem to say a bad word about. I'm sure it's just a coincidence. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It was ironic that the first thing Obama did after getting in office was use the power of the US government to seed revolutions in foreign countries. Obama spent his life bitching about American presidents using our intelligence agencies to seed revolutions in foreign countries with little care for the consequences of those countries citizens. Yet the first thing Obama did after getting in office is the exact same thing.
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Posted: 11/12/2017 8:30:40 PM EDT
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Hmmm, I was asking atlaturne for proof of the "clandestine interference" by Russia? |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 8:31:20 PM EDT
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Russia did hack the DNC. We're just trying to figure out the details of the second part being a possibility.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 8:35:22 PM EDT
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Sorry, did not read it that way, then your second reply to it, just took it incorrectly....
In fact most everyone here is except for a handful.
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Posted: 11/12/2017 8:36:08 PM EDT
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Weird that clinton & the entire obama administration gargled as much Putin cock as they could manage as well????? Shit, Bill went over there and made big bucks for himself and the "clinton foundation" snuggling up to them and giving speeches and the obama admin handed over the Crimean peninsula on a silver platter. Were you guys on here complaining about "muh russia" during that time period? How about when obama bent over and let Putin butt fuck him and dictate the current mideast situation? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It was ironic that the first thing Obama did after getting in office was use the power of the US government to seed revolutions in foreign countries. Obama spent his life bitching about American presidents using our intelligence agencies to seed revolutions in foreign countries with little care for the consequences of those countries citizens. Yet the first thing Obama did after getting in office is the exact same thing. Shit, Bill went over there and made big bucks for himself and the "clinton foundation" snuggling up to them and giving speeches and the obama admin handed over the Crimean peninsula on a silver platter. Were you guys on here complaining about "muh russia" during that time period? How about when obama bent over and let Putin butt fuck him and dictate the current mideast situation? |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 8:37:02 PM EDT
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I mean it is kind of weird Russia is the one country Trump can't seem to say a bad word about. I'm sure it's just a coincidence. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It was ironic that the first thing Obama did after getting in office was use the power of the US government to seed revolutions in foreign countries. Obama spent his life bitching about American presidents using our intelligence agencies to seed revolutions in foreign countries with little care for the consequences of those countries citizens. Yet the first thing Obama did after getting in office is the exact same thing. 
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Posted: 11/12/2017 8:42:31 PM EDT
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Really weird that Trump specifically asked Russia for his opponents emails. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It was ironic that the first thing Obama did after getting in office was use the power of the US government to seed revolutions in foreign countries. Obama spent his life bitching about American presidents using our intelligence agencies to seed revolutions in foreign countries with little care for the consequences of those countries citizens. Yet the first thing Obama did after getting in office is the exact same thing. Shit, Bill went over there and made big bucks for himself and the "clinton foundation" snuggling up to them and giving speeches and the obama admin handed over the Crimean peninsula on a silver platter. Were you guys on here complaining about "muh russia" during that time period? How about when obama bent over and let Putin butt fuck him and dictate the current mideast situation?
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Posted: 11/12/2017 8:42:54 PM EDT
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I think we're on the same side.
In fact most everyone here is except for a handful. 
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Posted: 11/12/2017 8:47:05 PM EDT
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The low-information crowd is really latching on to this "sealed indictments!!!!1111" thing, aren't they?
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Posted: 11/12/2017 8:48:35 PM EDT
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The low-information crowd is really ...... aren't they?
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Posted: 11/12/2017 8:49:15 PM EDT
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Especially since examination of the DNC servers proves it was Russia .... oh wait, the DNC won't allow examination of their servers. But they insist Russia did it, so it must be true! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It was ironic that the first thing Obama did after getting in office was use the power of the US government to seed revolutions in foreign countries. Obama spent his life bitching about American presidents using our intelligence agencies to seed revolutions in foreign countries with little care for the consequences of those countries citizens. Yet the first thing Obama did after getting in office is the exact same thing. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 9:18:59 PM EDT
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So they hacked them, but then they weren't the ones that released it to wikileaks? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Russia did hack the DNC. We're just trying to figure out the details of the second part being a possibility. I'm sure Russia hacked, or at least attempted to hack the DNC, I'd expect it to occur daily. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 9:29:31 PM EDT
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I mean it is kind of weird Russia is the one country Trump can't seem to say a bad word about. I'm sure it's just a coincidence. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/12/2017 9:41:38 PM EDT
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It was ironic that the first thing Obama did after getting in office was use the power of the US government to seed revolutions in foreign countries. Obama spent his life bitching about American presidents using our intelligence agencies to seed revolutions in foreign countries with little care for the consequences of those countries citizens. Yet the first thing Obama did after getting in office is the exact same thing. |
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Posted: 11/12/2017 9:47:33 PM EDT
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The ONI report speaks of Russian intentions. You're not getting that from just digital forensics of the DNC server. Also lots of technical attribution can be found on sources outside the DNC's network. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/12/2017 11:15:15 PM EDT
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The ONI report speaks of Russian intentions. You're not getting that from just digital forensics of the DNC server. Also lots of technical attribution can be found on sources outside the DNC's network. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/12/2017 11:28:03 PM EDT
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Really weird that Trump specifically asked Russia for his opponents emails. You know, the collusion that we actually know happened. Just imagine for a minute that Trump was given the questions to a debate by Fox News and Hillary wasn't. Work your way from there to figure out why nobody gives a fuck. |
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