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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:56:39 AM EDT
[#1]
Damn, I might have to come back to S&W. CZ doesn't have browning pattern carry guns with OEM flat triggers (just high end comp guns) so this is very attractive.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 11:59:50 AM EDT
[#2]
I’m somewhat glad to see this if it turns into a market trend.
I like the SAO trigger of a 1911, but don’t like the single stack capacity ?? Wait! Here comes the 2011 wave! ?? Minimum entry price of over $2k ?? I ended up sucking it up and buying a staccato C2. I still keep holding out hope for the DWX, it I’m excited to see more in the marketplace. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 12:00:32 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Go on…. Depending on how the trigger is, could be a interesting pistol. Yeah, could be pretty cool if it's similar to 1911's. As an aside, I hate how every trigger must now have a "dingus" even if it's SA, like this one. I feel like the possibility of catching just the edge of the trigger on something is remote and not worth putting a dumb anti-lawyer device on every damn handgun now just because Glock did it. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 12:00:53 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At this point in time, why are any companies bringing out new designs that don't incorporate a slide cut for an optic? To hurt your feelings. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 12:03:52 PM EDT
[#5]
I may be interested, depending on initial reviews of course.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 12:04:49 PM EDT
[#6]
P210 Carry ended up being vaporware, so I am interested. Imagine replacing the grip inserts with G10 or walnut?
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Posted: 12/30/2021 12:08:27 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe most people who buy pistols don't even know what an RMR is? I figure that if a new line shows good sales with John Q, they will make a cut one for the few who do RMR. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: At this point in time, why are any companies bringing out new designs that don't incorporate a slide cut for an optic? Maybe most people who buy pistols don't even know what an RMR is? I figure that if a new line shows good sales with John Q, they will make a cut one for the few who do RMR. I haven’t bought in to them. I am not blind, have been handgun shooting for nearly thirty years. Inside ten yards I really don’t need sights for a full sized not shielded body shot. Draw and shoot with just a quick index of the back of the pistol on the target. Inside 7 and point and shoot, doesn’t have to have eye level for hits. Repetition, muscle memory. Kind of handy when you get to the age where things like progressive lenses are your thing. I know I have been benefitting from years of practice and the eye balls are waning. The optics on pistols just makes it a little bulkier to carry. I don’t want that yet. I meant the yet. I could see getting to where it is a valid choice. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 12:09:30 PM EDT
[#8]
What does this possibly offer above what they already offer. Just an exposed hammer. I would think most people would want sa/da. To carry with the hammer relaxed on a live round. At least I would. Low capacity no optic cut. That's a no from me.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 12:10:27 PM EDT
[#9]
I see a polymer Firestar Plus
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Posted: 12/30/2021 12:15:21 PM EDT
[#10]
Interested
Apex will probably offer something to clean up that trigger dingus. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 12:15:24 PM EDT
[#11]
That’s kind of sexy. Needs a railed dustcover cover, though.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 12:17:59 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s kind of sexy. Needs a railed dustcover cover, though. Holy smokes I missed that. Mandatory in this day and age! Edit: aluminum could be drilled/tapped for a small rail though… hmm. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 12:52:35 PM EDT
[#13]
What no "Grip Zone"? No care.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 12:53:03 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I see a polymer Firestar Plus Except it not polymer. Aluminum frame. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 12:55:57 PM EDT
[#15]
I don't get the muh grip zonez quips. Like what's the point here? And how and when did so many feel so violated to the point that it controls their emotions when discussing guns? Or is it a lame attempt to be seen as edgy for some insignificant cries for GD street cred or something?
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Posted: 12/30/2021 12:58:48 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Kahr does make a damn magical DAO trigger. You ever shoot SIGs DAK trigger? It's pretty nice. Not my cup of tee for an auto, but it is a nice trigger. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just wish they were actually DAO like the p250 or at least were smooth like kahrs Kahr does make a damn magical DAO trigger. You ever shoot SIGs DAK trigger? It's pretty nice. Not my cup of tee for an auto, but it is a nice trigger. Kahrs aren't true DAO but sure feel nice for a striker. I like DAKs as well |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 12:59:36 PM EDT
[#17]
I’d be interested in shooting one. Looks to be something size wise to an officers model.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 1:30:18 PM EDT
[#18]
Well, at least it’s something new. Seems to be somewhat in the same vein as the DWX, a hybridized 1911. If they also make a 5” fullsize version the pair would compete well with the vaporware DWX fullsize and compact models.
Does need pic rail and optics cut though |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 1:34:21 PM EDT
[#19]
Not for me, but bring it on. Bring more to the market that will fill every conceivable (and some not so conceivable) niche and sell more guns.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 1:34:45 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I kinda like it..  
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Posted: 12/30/2021 1:37:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/30/2021 1:38:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/30/2021 1:38:20 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Does need pic rail and optics cut though It's simply unacceptable as an every day carry gun without those things. I could make it work as is, but why? Maybe they plan to sell enough to the demographic who doesn't do lights and optics. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 1:50:32 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's simply unacceptable as an every day carry gun without those things. I could make it work as is, but why? Maybe they plan to sell enough to the demographic who doesn't do lights and optics. Maybe they will have multiple variants....like they do with all their guns. A full size would be interesting, and cool. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 2:04:10 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe they will have multiple variants....like they do with all their guns. A full size would be interesting, and cool. A full size would be cool provided the gun didn't flop, but I'd only be interested if it came with a light rail. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 2:34:33 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's simply unacceptable as an every day carry gun without those things. I could make it work as is, but why? Maybe they plan to sell enough to the demographic who doesn't do lights and optics. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Does need pic rail and optics cut though It's simply unacceptable as an every day carry gun without those things. I could make it work as is, but why? Maybe they plan to sell enough to the demographic who doesn't do lights and optics. The DWX compact is supposed to have two versions, with and without a rail. If they did something like that it’d be understandable |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 2:41:33 PM EDT
[#27]
I kind of want
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Posted: 12/30/2021 2:44:31 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Go on…. Depending on how the trigger is, could be a interesting pistol. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 3:01:39 PM EDT
[#29]
For a SAO it's going to need a better safety lever than what that picture shows.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 3:07:05 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's simply unacceptable as an every day carry gun without those things. I could make it work as is, but why? Maybe they plan to sell enough to the demographic who doesn't do lights and optics. A majority of the handgun buying public doesn't use either a light or an optic. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 3:11:10 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A majority of the handgun buying public doesn't use either a light or an optic. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's simply unacceptable as an every day carry gun without those things. I could make it work as is, but why? Maybe they plan to sell enough to the demographic who doesn't do lights and optics. A majority of the handgun buying public doesn't use either a light or an optic. Well I said S&W might be counting on selling enough to the people who don't care, but it's still a design flaw. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 3:25:56 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well I said S&W might be counting on selling enough to the people who don't care, but it's still a design flaw. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's simply unacceptable as an every day carry gun without those things. I could make it work as is, but why? Maybe they plan to sell enough to the demographic who doesn't do lights and optics. A majority of the handgun buying public doesn't use either a light or an optic. Well I said S&W might be counting on selling enough to the people who don't care, but it's still a design flaw. It's not an actual flaw though. You could call it an accessory limited design and I'd probably agree with you. Obviously it's not for you, no big deal really. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 3:27:23 PM EDT
[#33]
I kinda like it. I’m all for new innovations in pistols. But I am not sure of that trigger. I don’t like the safety dingus sticking out.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 3:28:59 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You could call it an accessory limited design I think this is fair to say. I usually call it the “basic bitch” model. Like the new SA-35, I’m hoping another version with all the bells and whistles is forthcoming |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 3:30:48 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I kinda like it. I’m all for new innovations in pistols. But I am not sure of that trigger. I don’t like the safety dingus sticking out. Don’t have any Glocks? It’s a non-issue. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 3:35:57 PM EDT
[#36]
No 10mm???
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Posted: 12/30/2021 3:38:58 PM EDT
[#37]
It won't replace my Sig P928.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 3:52:22 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I usually call it the “basic bitch” model. Personally not interested unless there was either a full or a compact size with a light rail. I'm not into dots so I couldn't care less about it coming with or not for handguns, but I am into lights. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 3:56:39 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not sorry, but I'm not into being edgy. I'm fine with it being basic as there's nothing bitchy about it at all unless it's the owner whining about it. YMMV. Personally not interested unless there was either a full or a compact size with a light rail. I'm not into dots so I couldn't care less about it coming with or not for handguns, but I am into lights. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I usually call it the “basic bitch” model. Personally not interested unless there was either a full or a compact size with a light rail. I'm not into dots so I couldn't care less about it coming with or not for handguns, but I am into lights. Not trying to be edgy. Call it the base model, whatever |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 4:12:14 PM EDT
[#40]
Will it come in blue and yellow?
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Posted: 12/30/2021 4:20:17 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Really wish they would fix that false reset that some of their semi autos seem to have. Row the trigger and stop riding the reset like you’re supposed to and this is no longer an issue. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 4:21:14 PM EDT
[#42]
Id like to see a 5" with a slide cut.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 4:22:38 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Shit, that's EXACTLY what I said. I kinda like it. If it's not super expensive, and it's light and thin, I might look into getting one. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I kinda like it….. Shit, that's EXACTLY what I said. I kinda like it. If it's not super expensive, and it's light and thin, I might look into getting one. Exactly. Aluminum frame, hammer fired, kinda like a new take on the 1911. If it’s not some stupid price ($1000) I’m VERY interested. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 4:23:51 PM EDT
[#44]
I like it. May have to get one.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 4:25:36 PM EDT
[#45]
That's some thick thighs
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Posted: 12/30/2021 4:26:17 PM EDT
[#46]
I'm am M&P fan (but own and like 1911s). I don't see what the point is if they didn't replicate the amazing trigger of the 1911.
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Posted: 12/30/2021 4:34:38 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted: Info And images are leaking. 9mm. 10 and 12 rd mags. SAO. Ambi. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/222048/7ACB8527-6698-4EC1-91D9-B2D49ED2EB4B_jpe-2221704.JPG If they make that decocker only, DA/SA, they will have a corner on the double stack subcompact market for the category. I hope they do honestly. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 4:34:51 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why does the trigger have a safety dingus, when it already has a manual safety? Not a stupid question. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/hes_right_you_know-328.jpg Inertial safety. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 4:40:10 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm am M&P fan (but own and like 1911s). I don't see what the point is if they didn't replicate the amazing trigger of the 1911. This is ultimately what it comes down to. If Apex or one of the other usual suspects can make a sweet 2.5lb trigger for this thing, it has legs. Every other problem is solvable. If not, this thing is kinda pointless. I can already get a pretty decent pull from a striker-fired pistol. |
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Posted: 12/30/2021 4:42:46 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm am M&P fan (but own and like 1911s). I don't see what the point is if they didn't replicate the amazing trigger of the 1911. The Star model BM and the old S&W autos had great triggers. It can be done. Not directed at you, but there's way too much talk about trigger pulls here. |
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