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Posted: 9/12/2018 10:59:43 AM EDT
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Hell yeah, this. It's faster and easier for me to check this thread than to search around different weather apps for the most updated information. Thanks guys. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I want to thank the people constantly posting the weather maps and current information in this thread. Its been very helpful to me to have it consolidated in one place as I plan for both myself and preparations at work. 
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:00:06 AM EDT
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Hell yeah, this. It's faster and easier for me to check this thread than to search around different weather apps for the most updated information. Thanks guys. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I want to thank the people constantly posting the weather maps and current information in this thread. Its been very helpful to me to have it consolidated in one place as I plan for both myself and preparations at work. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:03:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:06:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:08:10 AM EDT
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TOUGH LOVE time for those of you that have family and friends riding this out on the coast.
Tell them if their home and belongings are going to be destroyed, them being home IS NOT going to stop that. Get out now, and we'll sort this stuff out as a community when it's over like we always do. Be safe brothers and sisters!! |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:08:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not true. If you are going to say something as a fact, try to know the facts from personal experience. When you repeat something that someone told you, thats scuttlebutt. why would you dispute it? |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:09:42 AM EDT
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I know it's been said, but the new track prediction is troublesome.
The NE section could pass over my mothers home In Cherry Grove. She bugged out but losing her home at 90 would suck. I know she's worried. I'm a bit worried about the rain we may get inland too |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:10:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:11:45 AM EDT
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I am located near the Wrightsville Beach draw bridge (Wilmington) I have to say I have not watched a ounce of tv coverage — the hype, scare tactics, warnings This hurricane has been far less stressful than the past ones when I eagerly watched, followed the newscasts etc. I recommend it. 
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:11:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm in Virginia Beach and very nervous for all the folks south of me, but the way they make these maps is completely irresponsible. NOAA out there acting like Oprah. You get tropical storm force winds. And you get tropical storm force winds. Everyone gets tropical storm force winds. I dont want to take away from the world of hurt some folks will be in, but Kentucky, you won't be getting tropical storm winds. The amount of overreaction in places that don't need to be that concerned is ridiculous. GD gonna GD |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:14:29 AM EDT
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the refusal of aid unless the puerto ricans were given control of the materials, was what was told to me by some of the puerto ricans that worked disaster relief with me, while I was there why would you dispute it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Not true. If you are going to say something as a fact, try to know the facts from personal experience. When you repeat something that someone told you, thats scuttlebutt. why would you dispute it? |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:16:59 AM EDT
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I don't "need" my generators, but if I can have some electric lights on, my perishable food kept at food safe temps, my router up and computer /TV on.... I am going to be far more comfortable than all of my neighbors. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:18:38 AM EDT
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I'm riding it out in New Bern.
I stopped at the Shell station across the street to top off the gas tank, and a woman in front of me filled up a 5-gallon plastic water carboy with gas, the type you flip upside down for an office water cooler. She said she had 8 five gallon cans of gas at the house, but why not use the water jug. You see some strange things leading up to a hurricane. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:20:11 AM EDT
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New models. Again, look at the amount of distance between 48 hours and 72 hours with FLORENCE:
Compare that with the distance between 48 and 72 hours with KATRINA: 
Hurricanes usually slow down after landfall, but that is not at all what's happening here. Something atmospheric is expected to block it at the worst time - right before landfall. Good news in that it should weaken moreso than they usually do, but that is offset by its overall strength in general. Cat 5 to 4 sucks, Cat 4 to 3 still sucks. It looks as though landfall will be anyone's guess right up until it happens. It is a worst-case scenario in that the coast is shaped in such a way as to absorb the (most) destruction of the North and Northeast sides of the storm while it maintains strength over water. The temporary stalling of the storm offshore will most likely produce rain, flooding, and flash floods well in excess of what has been predicted thus far, especially on that northern/NE part (NC mostly). There may be people now at risk due to the excess rain who were safe before. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:20:20 AM EDT
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Model showing wave heights along the coast. (This doesn't include storm surge.)
NC - 39 ft. SC - 26 ft. GA - 19 ft.
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:21:14 AM EDT
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Id suggest not looking too fat and happy, good chance you get cased for looting /robbed, Limit lights at nite, limit generator running, esp at nite , that sound will carry. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't "need" my generators, but if I can have some electric lights on, my perishable food kept at food safe temps, my router up and computer /TV on.... I am going to be far more comfortable than all of my neighbors. Limit lights at nite, limit generator running, esp at nite , that sound will carry. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:22:29 AM EDT
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You can't possibly be serious. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't "need" my generators, but if I can have some electric lights on, my perishable food kept at food safe temps, my router up and computer /TV on.... I am going to be far more comfortable than all of my neighbors. Limit lights at nite, limit generator running, esp at nite , that sound will carry. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:24:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:26:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't possibly be serious. Ppl can do what they want, id prefer low profile during disasters |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:27:47 AM EDT
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Yup. There's a difference between "survival" and "preparedness". Being prepared means survival... as comfortably and with as little deviation from a normal routine as possible. And even a little power can go a long way... even if you can only power a fridge or a chest freezer for a few minutes every day, it can be enough to keep everything in there from going to waste. My generators have been very useful during any power outage lasting more than a couple of hours. No ragrets. I might reconsider someday. So far I have been throwing some dry ice in the chest freezer and made it through. I should probably get one of those small ones though. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:28:11 AM EDT
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Good images here
This gif auto-updates every few minutes:  Nice BIG (5000x3000) satellite image from GOES16. They do release new photos every 5 minutes. Check out the URL and add or subtract 5 minutes to it to get more photos. 
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:30:13 AM EDT
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I'm riding it out in New Bern. I stopped at the Shell station across the street to top off the gas tank, and a woman in front of me filled up a 5-gallon plastic water carboy with gas, the type you flip upside down for an office water cooler. She said she had 8 five gallon cans of gas at the house, but why not use the water jug. You see some strange things leading up to a hurricane. 
Post Sandy, NY guy gets arrested in CT for filling up (or attempting to fill up) five gallon Home Depot buckets with gasoline... 
NY Man Charged in Gas Hoarding Case |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:33:32 AM EDT
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Yeah, who needs safe food storage, the ability to see in the dark and a way to charge a phone or radio? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I often chuckle at the genorator thing. People, you don't need a genny unless you have the money to get a big 220 job that will run your AC, hot water or stove. Lights, TV and a refrigerator are really all you get. Well I don't "need" either of those. I can cook on a burner. I don't have a freezer full of $$$ of meat and can cook off what thaws. You need, gas in your cars, gutters that are cleaned out and if it is really bad, a chainsaw after the storm passes and then only to clear your AO enough to allow you to get out if needed. Your homeowner's insurance will cover the tree problem if you have any and the pros can do it much quicker than you ever will and it does not have to be done the day after the storm unless once again it is a safety concern. If you are near an area affected by storm surge, GTFO. That will be your biggest risk on the direct coast. The loss of power is an inconvenience for most people. If I had to pump my water out of a well or sump my sewage it would a slightly different view for me. My municipal water comes from a tower, which is fed by pumps with back up power and my sewer is a septic tank in my yard. I guess I'm not as dependent on the grid as some. I have enough batteries and headlamps to illuminate my house for weeks, I use them all the time. Same with my power cells for the phone. I used to camp and backpack a lot, I still have that stuff. The worst thing is losing food but I can replace it all with the cost of a Genny. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:35:47 AM EDT
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Here in central FL, breezes are coming decidedly from the NE. Yesterday was just puffs, but today it is steady. Best wishes for all of you in the path. My gut says Savannah, GA. Unfortunately all those people from Columbia and Kentucky will be taking up motel space and gas. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:36:17 AM EDT
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Model showing wave heights along the coast. (This doesn't include storm surge.) NC - 39 ft. SC - 26 ft. GA - 19 ft.
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:36:37 AM EDT
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Currently 12' waves and 30knot gusts at the data bouy +200Nmiles s of Cape Hatteras.
https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=41002 Here is the link to all of NOAA's offshore data buoys (usually wave and wind readings) and shore based (wind only) recording stations. https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov Click on Atlantic tropical, zoom in, and select one of the yellow triangles. The Cane's track is on there, too. Over the years I have found that TV and internet "whetherpeoples" often get too excited and dramatic to be useful during severe weather events. Just give it to me straight. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:40:39 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:41:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:41:53 AM EDT
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You can do most of those things without a generator. Plus you have to consider how often you may use it. Some people don't know they need a little upkeep. I guess I'm not as dependent on the grid as some. I have enough batteries and headlamps to illuminate my house for weeks, I use them all the time. Same with my power cells for the phone. I used to camp and backpack a lot, I still have that stuff. The worst thing is losing food but I can replace it all with the cost of a Genny. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I often chuckle at the genorator thing. People, you don't need a genny unless you have the money to get a big 220 job that will run your AC, hot water or stove. Lights, TV and a refrigerator are really all you get. Well I don't "need" either of those. I can cook on a burner. I don't have a freezer full of $$$ of meat and can cook off what thaws. You need, gas in your cars, gutters that are cleaned out and if it is really bad, a chainsaw after the storm passes and then only to clear your AO enough to allow you to get out if needed. Your homeowner's insurance will cover the tree problem if you have any and the pros can do it much quicker than you ever will and it does not have to be done the day after the storm unless once again it is a safety concern. If you are near an area affected by storm surge, GTFO. That will be your biggest risk on the direct coast. The loss of power is an inconvenience for most people. If I had to pump my water out of a well or sump my sewage it would a slightly different view for me. My municipal water comes from a tower, which is fed by pumps with back up power and my sewer is a septic tank in my yard. I guess I'm not as dependent on the grid as some. I have enough batteries and headlamps to illuminate my house for weeks, I use them all the time. Same with my power cells for the phone. I used to camp and backpack a lot, I still have that stuff. The worst thing is losing food but I can replace it all with the cost of a Genny. I bought the EU2000i, and it's seen me through a few power outages. On the weekends, it powers my little cabin at some property I have. I even brought the window A/C from the cabin to the house so I'll be able to sleep in relative comfort without power. More importantly than how I sleep, is how the wife sleeps. Happy wife, Happy Life. As far as maintenance, change the oil once in a while, use ethanol free gas, and that's pretty much it. I spend more time in a year taking out the trash than I do performing maintenance on my generator. I'll never be without at least a small generator, and I'm probably going to go ahead and get the EU2000i companion, so I won't have to worry about load management so much. YMMV. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:44:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The liberals at work have already explained and educated me that Flo is a direct result of global warming which is a direct result of people being mean to nature... |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:44:42 AM EDT
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Florence is a big storm, and each eyewall replacement cycle seems to expand it's size outward, hence the strength of the winds in the outer bands.
Starting to look like Hurricane Ike in size and presentation. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:46:47 AM EDT
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If power out for days and weeks, you dont think a noisy gen set and house lite up like christmas tree wont draw attention ? Ppl can do what they want, id prefer low profile during disasters Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You can't possibly be serious. Ppl can do what they want, id prefer low profile during disasters |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:50:34 AM EDT
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Sitting here in VA with a Uhaul trailer full of my garage contents since my waterfront garage likes to flood with the smallest storm surge. I can load and go or stay with 240lbs of propane for my generator and another 20 gallons of fuel for my EU2000i knockoff. 20 cases of water and then 15gallons in water cooler jugs for my dogs. 4 chainsaws and enough climbing gear to get myself into a ton of trouble. I'm looking at this one as it is dual fuel and has USB out as well as being quiet. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sportsman-2-200-Watt-Dual-Fuel-Powered-Inverter-Generator/182844525834?epid=1066221538&hash=item2a92620d0a:g:VCwAAOSwridaDeb9:sc:FedExHomeDelivery  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:50:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If power out for days and weeks, you dont think a noisy gen set and house lite up like christmas tree wont draw attention ? Ppl can do what they want, id prefer low profile during disasters you hear contractor type generators running all over the place. besides, outside gangs or others, are going to be going to disaster areas, looking for homes where people have evacuated for easy hits, not necessarily occupied homes. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:54:41 AM EDT
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seriously, have you gone through some disasters, or been somewhere you have been out of power for extended periods of time? you hear contractor type generators running all over the place. besides, outside gangs or others, are going to be going to disaster areas, looking for homes where people have evacuated for easy hits, not necessarily occupied homes. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:54:47 AM EDT
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Yep, this man gets it. I like comfort and I'll be happy to get it with my generators regardless of gasoline costs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't "need" my generators, but if I can have some electric lights on, my perishable food kept at food safe temps, my router up and computer /TV on.... I am going to be far more comfortable than all of my neighbors. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:55:29 AM EDT
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Model showing wave heights along the coast. (This doesn't include storm surge.) NC - 39 ft. SC - 26 ft. GA - 19 ft.
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:55:39 AM EDT
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seriously, have you gone through some disasters, or been somewhere you have been out of power for extended periods of time? you hear contractor type generators running all over the place. besides, outside gangs or others, are going to be going to disaster areas, looking for homes where people have evacuated for easy hits, not necessarily occupied homes. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:55:43 AM EDT
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seriously, have you gone through some disasters, or been somewhere you have been out of power for extended periods of time? you hear contractor type generators running all over the place. besides, outside gangs or others, are going to be going to disaster areas, looking for homes where people have evacuated for easy hits, not necessarily occupied homes.  Just because I have MH chilli and mac doesn't mean I want to start off day 1 of no power by eating it! 
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:56:19 AM EDT
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seriously, have you gone through some disasters, or been somewhere you have been out of power for extended periods of time? you hear contractor type generators running all over the place. besides, outside gangs or others, are going to be going to disaster areas, looking for homes where people have evacuated for easy hits, not necessarily occupied homes. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 11:59:13 AM EDT
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People, you don't need a genny unless you have the money to get a big 220 job that will run your AC, hot water or stove. Lights, TV and a refrigerator are really all you get. Well I don't "need" either of those. I can cook on a burner. I don't have a freezer full of $$$ of meat and can cook off what thaws. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 12:02:52 PM EDT
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I'm riding it out in New Bern. I stopped at the Shell station across the street to top off the gas tank, and a woman in front of me filled up a 5-gallon plastic water carboy with gas, the type you flip upside down for an office water cooler. She said she had 8 five gallon cans of gas at the house, but why not use the water jug. You see some strange things leading up to a hurricane. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 12:06:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I call BS. This has served me well... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309598/EU2000i-669071.JPG Runs the router, APs, TV, a couple of lamps, a fan (or a small heater), a sump pump (if necessary) and a dorm sized fridge. It also keeps all phones/devices charged. Having those items up and running is a night and day difference vs. not having them during a power outage (especially if you have kids). The need on your list is a sump pump which I already acknowledged. Jeeze, how could I charge my phone, computer etc? The same way I do much of the time, my truck. TV? Meh, don't need or watch it much. I have ARFCOM. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 12:08:07 PM EDT
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Just saw a report on TV.
There are many crews from Florida moving north to stage to help the people in the Carolinas. Rescue, LE, power, aid etc. Returning the favor for the help that the people of NC and SC provided last year for Irma. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 12:08:15 PM EDT
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I want to thank the people constantly posting the weather maps and current information in this thread. Its been very helpful to me to have it consolidated in one place as I plan for both myself and preparations at work. For Irma I was posting traffic information from https://www.waze.com/livemap. Traffic isn't as critical this time around as there are many more ways to get away in NC/SC than their is in FL. But people will still wait until the last minute, accidents will happen, and there seems to be some road/lane closures to take into consideration. I'm not sure what is going on between Charleston and Columbia, there are people traveling the road but it shows road/lane closures.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 12:08:47 PM EDT
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Some of us do. Some of us have a freezer with several hundred rodents in it (snake food). I am not explaining to a hungry 15 foot python that sorry, you are not eating for a month because I was stupid and didn't get a backup generator for the freezer that held your rabbits. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 12:10:02 PM EDT
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I'm riding it out in New Bern. I stopped at the Shell station across the street to top off the gas tank, and a woman in front of me filled up a 5-gallon plastic water carboy with gas, the type you flip upside down for an office water cooler. She said she had 8 five gallon cans of gas at the house, but why not use the water jug. You see some strange things leading up to a hurricane.  Attached FileI have room in Jax, FL. Hmmmm.... apocalypse or A/C, a house with a roof, and electricity? |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 12:10:45 PM EDT
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Good images here This gif auto-updates every few minutes: https://cdn.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES16/ABI/GIFS/GOES16-EUS-GEOCOLOR-1000x1000.gif Nice BIG (5000x3000) satellite image from GOES16. They do release new photos every 5 minutes. Check out the URL and add or subtract 5 minutes to it to get more photos. https://cdn.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES16/ABI/CONUS/GEOCOLOR/20182551517_GOES16-ABI-CONUS-GEOCOLOR-5000x3000.jpg |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 12:11:11 PM EDT
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If you have a big enough generator to let your neighbor run a line to it so his family is a bit more comfortable, you also have someone to help you keep an eye on it to make sure it doesn't grow legs and wander off while you sleep.
The last big storm we had come through, we ran the generator for four days straight. The damage to the area wasn't bad enough to prevent people in areas with little/no damage from driving in and looting what they could from homes where people had bugged out. So, between us and the neighbors we slept in shifts to ensure that 1) everyone got enough sleep, and 2) there was always an armed adult awake and aware 24/7. |
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Posted: 9/12/2018 12:11:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Says a guy that has his water pumped and shit pumped by a state municipality. Bad advice Sir! If I pumped from a well on my property, I would need a genny. |
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