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Link Posted: 4/23/2013 4:22:46 AM EST
[#1]
Didn't care for this episode.
Link Posted: 4/23/2013 5:14:21 AM EST
[#2]
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Didn't care for this episode.

Why not? It was a GREAT episode?

We found out so much!
Link Posted: 4/23/2013 6:15:05 PM EST
[#4]



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I predict floki killing rollo


yup sooner or latter,he sees through rollo



 
Link Posted: 4/23/2013 6:52:02 PM EST
[#5]



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I predict floki killing rollo


yup sooner or latter,he sees through rollo

 



Indeed.  If it happens, that episode is going to be very very good.





 
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 4:56:31 AM EST
[#6]
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I predict floki killing rollo

yup sooner or latter,he sees through rollo
 


Rollo ends up in France and lays the ground work for Wiiliam the Conqueror, Ragnar ends up in in Northumberland's snake pit, and his sons adopted and other wise end up avenging him, or so the history goes.
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 5:29:15 AM EST
[#7]



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I predict floki killing rollo


yup sooner or latter,he sees through rollo

 




Rollo ends up in France and lays the ground work for Wiiliam the Conqueror, Ragnar ends up in in Northumberland's snake pit, and his sons adopted and other wise end up avenging him, or so the history goes.


Hmm, never considered Rollo was Robert I - historically inaccurate but makes for a good story. Ragnar's only son so far, Bjorn - his name doesn't match the mythical accounts. So we'll see where this goes.



 
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 7:10:11 AM EST
[#8]





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I predict floki killing rollo



yup sooner or latter,he sees through rollo


 






Rollo ends up in France and lays the ground work for Wiiliam the Conqueror, Ragnar ends up in in Northumberland's snake pit, and his sons adopted and other wise end up avenging him, or so the history goes.



Hmm, never considered Rollo was Robert I - historically inaccurate but makes for a good story. Ragnar's only son so far, Bjorn - his name doesn't match the mythical accounts. So we'll see where this goes.


 



Rollo

 













Bjorn








 
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 8:08:28 AM EST
[#9]
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Whats wrong with Ragnar's current son? I can see that they would like to have another boy, but they constantly talk about it like the elder son does not exist and everything rides on having another boy.


The more sons he has the more his reputation will increase among the people.

So, the more the merrier


It's also a brutal time. Bjorn could catch a cold and die tomorrow. Two is one and one is none. Also, more sons means his line is assured and could produce advantageous marriages.

Link Posted: 4/24/2013 1:38:27 PM EST
[#10]

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Rollo ends up in France and lays the ground work for Wiiliam the Conqueror, Ragnar ends up in in Northumberland's snake pit, and his sons adopted and other wise end up avenging him, or so the history goes.






Hmm, never considered Rollo was Robert I - historically inaccurate but makes for a good story. Ragnar's only son so far, Bjorn - his name doesn't match the mythical accounts. So we'll see where this goes.





 






Rollo  































Bjorn
















 






Rollo - Robert I, who is fairly well historically documented, isn't Ragnars brother - at least not historically. Interesting if this is where the writers take it.
Bjorn Ironsides, as with Ragnar, primarily legendary, is attributed with a wealth of accomplishments - but none centered in England. I'd recalled Bjorn and Hastein were adopted - Ivar and Hubba (the mythical leaders of the Great Danish Army) who legend claims invaded England to avenge Ragnar were natural. That along with extrapolating the plot with Bjorn continuing to center on Northumbria/England doesnt seem to fit the Sagas. But seems from separate sources from Wikipedia, all of the sons, including Halfdane, were variously claimed to be adopted or natural - a point I didnt recall.
But this could go anywhere - its a good story based on a finely constructed legend.
 



 
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 6:57:46 PM EST
[#11]



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It sucks they killed off the most badass guys already. Floki I think is the most dangerous guy in the series. Smart as shit and not quite all there with a side of ruthless badass.


Agreed on both counts.  Floki definitely has a few screws loose, he wears his battle makeup every day, regardless if he's in battle or not, he's a master craftsman/builder, he slays the enemy, and he has zero fucks to give.



Definitely bummed Leif was sacrificed.  His character seemed quite genuine; very human of him to guide the priest whilst he was inebriated.



 
Link Posted: 4/24/2013 7:32:18 PM EST
[#12]
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It sucks they killed off the most badass guys already. Floki I think is the most dangerous guy in the series. Smart as shit and not quite all there with a side of ruthless badass.

Agreed on both counts.  Floki definitely has a few screws loose, he wears his battle makeup every day, regardless if he's in battle or not, he's a master craftsman/builder, he slays the enemy, and he has zero fucks to give.

Definitely bummed Leif was sacrificed.  His character seemed quite genuine; very human of him to guide the priest whilst he was inebriated.
 


Leif was a stud and so was the the blonde fucker with the big beard that was killed by the earls men.
Link Posted: 4/25/2013 3:52:41 AM EST
[#13]



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It sucks they killed off the most badass guys already. Floki I think is the most dangerous guy in the series. Smart as shit and not quite all there with a side of ruthless badass.


Agreed on both counts.  Floki definitely has a few screws loose, he wears his battle makeup every day, regardless if he's in battle or not, he's a master craftsman/builder, he slays the enemy, and he has zero fucks to give.



Definitely bummed Leif was sacrificed.  His character seemed quite genuine; very human of him to guide the priest whilst he was inebriated.

 




Leif was a stud and so was the the blonde fucker with the big beard that was killed by the earls men.


The older cat who played Olaf (IIRC?) in 13th Warrior?  Both those bastards were definitely studs.



 
Link Posted: 4/25/2013 6:13:00 AM EST
[#14]



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It sucks they killed off the most badass guys already. Floki I think is the most dangerous guy in the series. Smart as shit and not quite all there with a side of ruthless badass.


Agreed on both counts.  Floki definitely has a few screws loose, he wears his battle makeup every day, regardless if he's in battle or not, he's a master craftsman/builder, he slays the enemy, and he has zero fucks to give.



Definitely bummed Leif was sacrificed.  His character seemed quite genuine; very human of him to guide the priest whilst he was inebriated.

 


Yeah I like Floki as well, he's also a big guy, taller than Rollo actually



 
Link Posted: 4/28/2013 11:53:36 AM EST
[#15]
Bump for the season finale.



I've seen some of the previews during the Vikings marathon today. It looks good.
Link Posted: 4/28/2013 5:50:04 PM EST
[#16]
Plague?
Link Posted: 4/28/2013 5:51:49 PM EST
[#17]
This show has gotten kind of weird. I wish it was just more pillaging and killing lol.
Link Posted: 4/28/2013 5:53:37 PM EST
[#18]
Certainly an interesting turn. Another goddamn let down of an episode though. The first six-seven were better.
Link Posted: 4/28/2013 6:05:14 PM EST
[#19]
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Plague?


My guess too.
Link Posted: 4/28/2013 6:11:41 PM EST
[#20]
Last episode until 2014. Long time to wait.
Link Posted: 4/28/2013 6:38:26 PM EST
[#21]



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Last episode until 2014. Long time to wait.


Goddammit.  And Floki is a nut but I love that makeup-wearing bastard.



 
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 5:40:42 AM EST
[#22]
I swear I'm always a date late with this show.

MUST AVOID THREAD AT ALL COSTS!
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 6:34:49 AM EST
[#23]
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This show has gotten kind of weird. I wish it was just more pillaging and killing lol.


Not every day back then was a day of pillaging.  It seems this episode is more of a setup to next season rather than a finale.  

That pisses me off about Gita.  

Lots of greek drama in this one.
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 9:48:32 AM EST
[#24]
2014 is a long time to wait for new episodes. And I dont care for some of the side plots that are developing.....if they are historically accurate then so be it.

And Rollo, he is a pretty conflicted guy.
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 9:50:30 AM EST
[#25]
Well the season finale sucked
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 10:08:02 AM EST
[#26]
I really tried to like the show, but that was a really, really poor 'season finale' and the season as a whole didn't really have much payoff.

Oh well.

Link Posted: 4/29/2013 10:23:53 AM EST
[#27]



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Well the season finale sucked


yep.



drama llama.



Need's more axe play and less mystical romance.



 
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 1:58:23 PM EST
[#28]
Just watched the finale.

Meh.

Link Posted: 4/29/2013 3:04:18 PM EST
[#29]
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Bump for the season finale.

I've seen some of the previews during the Vikings marathon today. It looks good.


And the finale sucked
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 3:19:32 PM EST
[#30]
If you have them whacking guys with their swords each episode you then have zero plot.  They have to have some plotting and tragedy to go along with raiding and fighting.

 Not my favorite episode but necessary for plot development and to make the fight scenes something other than common and expected.

 A year is too fucking long to wait on this.
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 3:21:15 PM EST
[#31]
Does anyone else think Ragnar planned with Rollo to join the other earl, as some sort of inside source for the upcoming battle against the king? There was a hesitation by Ragnar when he decided who, out of his men, would stay when they went to visit the tree. It seemed odd. It would make sense seeing as though Rollo ultimately sided with Ragnar against the other earl he killed, even though he verbally said he would support him. I think Rollo will go against Ragnar eventually, but the bond they have as brothers is still strong.



On a positive note, at least the finale set us up for an epic battle to
start off the new season. Which seems like forever from now.
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 3:24:25 PM EST
[#32]
I just want to see Floki fuck up Rollo.
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 3:49:26 PM EST
[#33]
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Does anyone else think Ragnar planned with Rollo to join the other earl, as some sort of inside source for the upcoming battle against the king? There was a hesitation by Ragnar when he decided who, out of his men, would stay when they went to visit the tree. It seemed odd. It would make sense seeing as though Rollo ultimately sided with Ragnar against the other earl he killed, even though he verbally said he would support him. I think Rollo will go against Ragnar eventually, but the bond they have as brothers is still strong.

On a positive note, at least the finale set us up for an epic battle to start off the new season. Which seems like forever from now.


Interesting theory, but it didn't seem like Rollo was putting on an act.  Interesting how that Jarl was talking about the sickness and poisoning, while the sickness was going on back home.  I bet Rollo is going to find it easier to blame his brother for his woman's daughter's death after that conversation.  I also got the feeling that Ragnar wanted to side with the Jarl instead of the king, and Floki understood what the king was saying about the spider web and the trap.  

I'm willing to bet the Jarl and the King are working together to test the loyalty of Ragnar and eventually kill him.  Wouldn't that be something?

Either way, I'm highly pissed Gita is gone.  
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 3:56:36 PM EST
[#34]
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Does anyone else think Ragnar planned with Rollo to join the other earl, as some sort of inside source for the upcoming battle against the king? There was a hesitation by Ragnar when he decided who, out of his men, would stay when they went to visit the tree. It seemed odd. It would make sense seeing as though Rollo ultimately sided with Ragnar against the other earl he killed, even though he verbally said he would support him. I think Rollo will go against Ragnar eventually, but the bond they have as brothers is still strong.

On a positive note, at least the finale set us up for an epic battle to start off the new season. Which seems like forever from now.


Interesting theory, but it didn't seem like Rollo was putting on an act.  Interesting how that Jarl was talking about the sickness and poisoning, while the sickness was going on back home.  I bet Rollo is going to find it easier to blame his brother for his woman's daughter's death after that conversation.  I also got the feeling that Ragnar wanted to side with the Jarl instead of the king, and Floki understood what the king was saying about the spider web and the trap.  

I'm willing to bet the Jarl and the King are working together to test the loyalty of Ragnar and eventually kill him.  Wouldn't that be something?

Either way, I'm highly pissed Gita is gone.  



What was the king saying about the spider web? I missed that part.
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 3:59:36 PM EST
[#35]
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Does anyone else think Ragnar planned with Rollo to join the other earl, as some sort of inside source for the upcoming battle against the king? There was a hesitation by Ragnar when he decided who, out of his men, would stay when they went to visit the tree. It seemed odd. It would make sense seeing as though Rollo ultimately sided with Ragnar against the other earl he killed, even though he verbally said he would support him. I think Rollo will go against Ragnar eventually, but the bond they have as brothers is still strong.

On a positive note, at least the finale set us up for an epic battle to start off the new season. Which seems like forever from now.


Interesting theory, but it didn't seem like Rollo was putting on an act.  Interesting how that Jarl was talking about the sickness and poisoning, while the sickness was going on back home.  I bet Rollo is going to find it easier to blame his brother for his woman's daughter's death after that conversation.  I also got the feeling that Ragnar wanted to side with the Jarl instead of the king, and Floki understood what the king was saying about the spider web and the trap.  

I'm willing to bet the Jarl and the King are working together to test the loyalty of Ragnar and eventually kill him.  Wouldn't that be something?

Either way, I'm highly pissed Gita is gone.  



What was the king saying about the spider web? I missed that part.


Floki was sent to him to negotiate a deal.  King says "what makes you think I want a deal" or something along those lines.  They talk for a few minutes, he says they are done, no deal, then says "oh, look at that!" pointing at a spider web, then walks off.  There's something trapped inside it, the spider then attacks it while it's trapped in the web.
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 4:02:01 PM EST
[#36]
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Does anyone else think Ragnar planned with Rollo to join the other earl, as some sort of inside source for the upcoming battle against the king? There was a hesitation by Ragnar when he decided who, out of his men, would stay when they went to visit the tree. It seemed odd. It would make sense seeing as though Rollo ultimately sided with Ragnar against the other earl he killed, even though he verbally said he would support him. I think Rollo will go against Ragnar eventually, but the bond they have as brothers is still strong.

On a positive note, at least the finale set us up for an epic battle to start off the new season. Which seems like forever from now.


Interesting theory, but it didn't seem like Rollo was putting on an act.  Interesting how that Jarl was talking about the sickness and poisoning, while the sickness was going on back home.  I bet Rollo is going to find it easier to blame his brother for his woman's daughter's death after that conversation.  I also got the feeling that Ragnar wanted to side with the Jarl instead of the king, and Floki understood what the king was saying about the spider web and the trap.  

I'm willing to bet the Jarl and the King are working together to test the loyalty of Ragnar and eventually kill him.  Wouldn't that be something?

Either way, I'm highly pissed Gita is gone.  



What was the king saying about the spider web? I missed that part.


Floki was sent to him to negotiate a deal.  King says "what makes you think I want a deal" or something along those lines.  They talk for a few minutes, he says they are done, no deal, then says "oh, look at that!" pointing at a spider web, then walks off.  There's something trapped inside it, the spider then attacks it while it's trapped in the web.


Why go through the motions of negotiating then if he just wants to go to war?
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 4:12:23 PM EST
[#37]
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It sucks they killed off the most badass guys already. Floki I think is the most dangerous guy in the series. Smart as shit and not quite all there with a side of ruthless badass.

Agreed on both counts.  Floki definitely has a few screws loose, he wears his battle makeup every day, regardless if he's in battle or not, he's a master craftsman/builder, he slays the enemy, and he has zero fucks to give.

Definitely bummed Leif was sacrificed.  His character seemed quite genuine; very human of him to guide the priest whilst he was inebriated.
 


Leif was a stud and so was the the blonde fucker with the big beard that was killed by the earls men.

The older cat who played Olaf (IIRC?) in 13th Warrior?  Both those bastards were definitely studs.
 

Actually he was the lead stud in 13th warrior, Buliwyf.  Banderas was good but he was no Buliwyf.
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 4:17:40 PM EST
[#38]



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Why go through the motions of negotiating then if he just wants to go to war?


I think more than anything, he wants Ragnar to handle it if he can, and if war breaks out, so be it. Ragnar pledged his allegiance and he wants to see it through since Ragnar is a legend at this point and the situation couldn't get much worse. In return, the King would give Ragnar more men to go invade France.




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I'm
willing to bet the Jarl and the King are working together to test the
loyalty of Ragnar and eventually kill him.  Wouldn't that be something?


Interesting theory. I don't know where Ragnar would get the manpower to take both of them and their armies down though.





 
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 4:25:20 PM EST
[#39]
Weird ending.  
No new shows 'til 2014.  

Too many sub-plots.


Will still watch it...

Link Posted: 4/29/2013 4:30:11 PM EST
[#40]
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Weird ending.  
No new shows 'til 2014.  

Too many sub-plots.


Will still watch it...



Isn't there one more episode this season?
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 4:31:01 PM EST
[#41]
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It sucks they killed off the most badass guys already. Floki I think is the most dangerous guy in the series. Smart as shit and not quite all there with a side of ruthless badass.

Agreed on both counts.  Floki definitely has a few screws loose, he wears his battle makeup every day, regardless if he's in battle or not, he's a master craftsman/builder, he slays the enemy, and he has zero fucks to give.

Definitely bummed Leif was sacrificed.  His character seemed quite genuine; very human of him to guide the priest whilst he was inebriated.
 


Leif was a stud and so was the the blonde fucker with the big beard that was killed by the earls men.

The older cat who played Olaf (IIRC?) in 13th Warrior?  Both those bastards were definitely studs.
 

Actually he was the lead stud in 13th warrior, Buliwyf.  Banderas was good but he was no Buliwyf.


This thread made me buy 13th warrior
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 4:38:59 PM EST
[#42]



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\snip





This thread made me buy 13th warrior


its an oldy but goody, I need to buy it myself.



 
Link Posted: 4/29/2013 5:23:09 PM EST
[#43]



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\snip





This thread made me buy 13th warrior


its an oldy but goody, I need to buy it myself.

 


Been in my DVD player for weeks.



 
Link Posted: 4/30/2013 3:17:02 AM EST
[#44]
You guys know that the 13th Warrior is loosely based on Beowolf right?
Link Posted: 4/30/2013 3:20:12 AM EST
[#45]
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You guys know that the 13th Warrior is loosely based on Beowolf right?


It's a mixture of the tales of Ahmad Ibn Fadlan and Beowulf
Link Posted: 4/30/2013 3:24:05 AM EST
[#46]
Rollo will snatch up Floki and break him in half, unless, of course, Floki sneaks around and kills him in his sleep.

Don't trust that Floki dude.
Link Posted: 4/30/2013 3:41:12 AM EST
[#47]



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You guys know that the 13th Warrior is loosely based on Beowolf right?




It's a mixture of the tales of Ahmad Ibn Fadlan and Beowulf


Did not know that.



 
Link Posted: 4/30/2013 3:56:56 AM EST
[#48]
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You guys know that the 13th Warrior is loosely based on Beowolf right?


It's a mixture of the tales of Ahmad Ibn Fadlan and Beowulf

Did not know that.
 


The 13th Warrior is the movie made from the book Eaters of The Dead

Ibn Fadlan was traveling with the Viking Rus, which is where Michael Crighton got that part of the story.

The slaying the "dragon" part was taken from the end of Beowulf and he mixed in the scenes at the hall before Beowulf slew Grendel
Link Posted: 4/30/2013 4:09:33 AM EST
[#49]
by sending Ragnar with no recourse I think the King meant the fly to be Ragnar.

The King wasn't sacraficing any of his men at the festival.

Ragnar is banging some hot women.
Link Posted: 4/30/2013 4:59:39 AM EST
[#50]
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by sending Ragnar with no recourse I think the King meant the fly to be Ragnar.

The King wasn't sacraficing any of his men at the festival.

Ragnar is banging some hot women.


I haven't even thought of that angle. maybe so....

and Ragnar is a better man than I.... I would have knocked the bottom out of that. whining kid or not.
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