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It wasn't on the mainstream media. At this point I believe it by default. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Has this been confirmed? I haven't heard a hint of it on the radio or TV. I think these guys might know a thing or two, considering the story is on the US Army's 1st Infantry Division official website. These quotes are from The Army Times: "Monday night’s massive air assault hitting 22 targets across Syria was a historic operation that signals a new expansion of a war that is likely to last for years." “You are seeing the beginning of a sustained campaign,” Mayville, in his capacity as the Joint Staff’s director of operations, told Pentagon reporters Tuesday. Washington Times article. Stars and Stripes. |
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I'm at a complete loss why they need a division headquarters and staff controlling this, much less being in country. Won't it be SF training the locals? Maybe UAV assets, HUMINT teams, and other MI? So why does that require an infantry/armor division headquarters? View Quote Because going against popular belief Iraq does posses some capable bn sized forces. What they are not great at is the larger picture, ie coordinating the movement, supplying the movement, etc, that take decades to teach. Sf isn't going to teach their operations center how to conduct division operations. |
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The only reason why you would need a division headquarters in Iraq is if you need an element capable of commanding, controlling and coordinating the actions of 2 or more brigade combat teams. Therefore we should assume regular army units will soon follow. You wouldn't need a regular army division headquarters to coordinate the activities of some special ops units there advising and acting as JTACs. View Quote why fool around? Send in the entire division for crying out loud. |
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why fool around? Send in the entire division for crying out loud. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The only reason why you would need a division headquarters in Iraq is if you need an element capable of commanding, controlling and coordinating the actions of 2 or more brigade combat teams. Therefore we should assume regular army units will soon follow. You wouldn't need a regular army division headquarters to coordinate the activities of some special ops units there advising and acting as JTACs. why fool around? Send in the entire division for crying out loud. It's called 'mission creep'. And IIRC a bunch of guys around here were correctly calling it back when Fallujah fell back into AQI (later ISIL's) hands. I think some even earlier than that. Gulf War 3, here we come. |
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How about the democrats and Obama faithful do the fighting this time around? Let MSNBC anchors and college professors lead the charge into battle.
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You put some ground troops in, You pull all ground troops out, You put more ground troops in, Then you flounder all about... View Quote May the blessings of God be with the troops on the ground... There is much truth, tremendous humor, and much deep regret and sadness in your post... |
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Quoted: Yup, I believe the situation is MUCH more dire than we have been led to believe. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Also: SOMETHING Is wrong- Bad wrong- to get this idiot to commit troops. Yup, I believe the situation is MUCH more dire than we have been led to believe. I'm not a military person. What kind of situation do you (and apparently a few other posters) feel is lurking in the background?
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Some of you are quick to forget the contractors that this administration left out to dry when ISIS started it's roll over Iraq. You think they give two shits about you, let alone regular military? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'll go back for a big fat paycheck as a civilian. Some of you are quick to forget the contractors that this administration left out to dry when ISIS started it's roll over Iraq. You think they give two shits about you, let alone regular military? LOL, we were treated as second-class citizens, expendable ones at that, long before ISIS, or even Obama for that matter. Bush's Iraq SOFA comes to mind. Whatevs, the shittier the gig the better the pay. |
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Jennifer Griffith talked about it on fox this afternoon View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Has this been confirmed? I haven't heard a hint of it on the radio or TV. Jennifer Griffith talked about it on fox this afternoon Should've posted that article. More people would've read it than checked Army Times, or the official website of 1ID. |
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I work/volunteer, in conjunction with the First Division Museum in Wheaton IL on the Cantigny estate. Looks like the Museum will have to add another exhibit........
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Quoted: Boots on the ground in Iraq and Holder leaving on the same day. What other shenanigans are going on that we are missing while the media stays busy with those two headlines? I wouldn't be surprised if he goes for a gun ban or amnesty between now and Christmas. Never waste a crisis..... View Quote |
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I'm sure throngs of libs will take to the streets in protest of us sending troops into Iraq to wage war against the noble people of the Middle East.
There will be 24 hour coverage by all the major media outlets with a revolving door of learned, left leaning pundits criticizing Obama's handling of the situation. Any day now... |
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I'm not a military person. What kind of situation do you (and apparently a few other posters) feel is lurking in the background? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Also: SOMETHING Is wrong- Bad wrong- to get this idiot to commit troops. Yup, I believe the situation is MUCH more dire than we have been led to believe. I'm not a military person. What kind of situation do you (and apparently a few other posters) feel is lurking in the background? SHTF if this spills over into Saudi Arabia. $6/gal gas. |
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Yup, I believe the situation is MUCH more dire than we have been led to believe. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Also: SOMETHING Is wrong- Bad wrong- to get this idiot to commit troops. Yup, I believe the situation is MUCH more dire than we have been led to believe. This. There is basically a news blackout. |
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Of course he is, as he said he was not going to. The maxim of, whatever he says, the opposite is what he will do holds true. View Quote I heard him say that on TV the other day, and that's EXACTLY what I thought. If he says he isn't going to do something, he's going to do what he says he won't. As predictable as clockwork..... That fucker lives in a alternate reality. "If I just lie about (insert whatever he's lying about here), people will accept it, and everything will be ok...." |
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Because going against popular belief Iraq does posses some capable bn sized forces. What they are not great at is the larger picture, ie coordinating the movement, supplying the movement, etc, that take decades to teach. Sf isn't going to teach their operations center how to conduct division operations. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I'm at a complete loss why they need a division headquarters and staff controlling this, much less being in country. Won't it be SF training the locals? Maybe UAV assets, HUMINT teams, and other MI? So why does that require an infantry/armor division headquarters? Because going against popular belief Iraq does posses some capable bn sized forces. What they are not great at is the larger picture, ie coordinating the movement, supplying the movement, etc, that take decades to teach. Sf isn't going to teach their operations center how to conduct division operations. Pretty much nailed it there. Plus the Iraqi's are rank conscious, they are not going to listen to some ODA CPT or MSG to tell them how to I run brigade and division sized operations. Plus add in the fact that Army divisions are the smallest element that can form a JTF HQ. That's what you need to control all the enablers that we're supplying them. |
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Are you trying to be a Drama Llama or do you just like opining on subjects you know nothing about? View Quote You're right of course. Dear Leader would never place Americans in a hostile country with inadequate security measures and fail to provide needed support because he's trying to pretend it's not as bad as it seems and he doesn't want to offend our enemies. I'm sure our enemies would never try to take advantage of an exposed weakness. |
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I'm not a military person. What kind of situation do you (and apparently a few other posters) feel is lurking in the background? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Also: SOMETHING Is wrong- Bad wrong- to get this idiot to commit troops. Yup, I believe the situation is MUCH more dire than we have been led to believe. I'm not a military person. What kind of situation do you (and apparently a few other posters) feel is lurking in the background? Think 'killing fields' Khmer Rouge-level violence with their eyes on toppling the house of Saud and the King of Jordan. |
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You're right of course. Dear Leader would never place Americans in a hostile country with inadequate security measures and fail to provide needed support because he's trying to pretend it's not as bad as it seems and he doesn't want to offend our enemies. I'm sure our enemies would never try to take advantage of an exposed weakness. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Are you trying to be a Drama Llama or do you just like opining on subjects you know nothing about? You're right of course. Dear Leader would never place Americans in a hostile country with inadequate security measures and fail to provide needed support because he's trying to pretend it's not as bad as it seems and he doesn't want to offend our enemies. I'm sure our enemies would never try to take advantage of an exposed weakness. It's called war. If only there was some some force it there that was trained to do that sort of icky stuff. And politicians politicizing war? Neva bin dun befo. |
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We don't have to be. We can just let it burn. Move in secure the oil fields and screw the rest. That at least would make some sense. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Depressing thread, is depressing. God bless our troops. eta - I just can not believe our country is in this situation. We don't have to be. We can just let it burn. Move in secure the oil fields and screw the rest. That at least would make some sense. We have oil and we can get lean. I'd rather pinch off their cash flow by stopping the trade. There isn't a pipeline we can't cut or a harbor that we can't mine. We can starve them. |
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This. There is basically a news blackout. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Forgive me if this is a profoundly stupid question, but will air support be available from somewhere if these guys need help on the ground?
I don't know shit from Shinola when it comes to military operations (obviously), but I hope these troops get whatever support they need - and aren't left hung out to dry once The Boy King™ sees something shiny on the horizon to distract him Edited for typo. |
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It's called war. If only there was some some force it there that was trained to do that sort of icky stuff. And politicians politicizing war? Neva bin dun befo. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Are you trying to be a Drama Llama or do you just like opining on subjects you know nothing about? You're right of course. Dear Leader would never place Americans in a hostile country with inadequate security measures and fail to provide needed support because he's trying to pretend it's not as bad as it seems and he doesn't want to offend our enemies. I'm sure our enemies would never try to take advantage of an exposed weakness. It's called war. If only there was some some force it there that was trained to do that sort of icky stuff. And politicians politicizing war? Neva bin dun befo. I'm not questioning the abilities of our military. More doubting that decisions will be made with best security of the troops in mind. If there are only 500 troops in country spread all over in smaller groups who will they rely on for security? Will air assets be available at the discretion of the ground commander or will the white house have to authorize every time a soldier wants to flip the selector to auto? |
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Boots on the ground in Iraq and Holder leaving on the same day. What other shenanigans are going on that we are missing while the media stays busy with those two headlines? I wouldn't be surprised if he goes for a gun ban or amnesty between now and Christmas. Never waste a crisis..... View Quote DHS will now focus on the climate change crisis.... |
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If we go then lets go big and finish it quick, Full on assault with everything we got.
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Quoted: I'm at a complete loss why they need a division headquarters and staff controlling this, much less being in country. Won't it be SF training the locals? Maybe UAV assets, HUMINT teams, and other MI? So why does that require an infantry/armor division headquarters? View Quote We have a consulate and embassy, respectively, in each city. They are also where we have intelligence HQ's and the most Western/US citizens. Erbil, for example, has several universities with Western/American faculty members. Their semester restarts in October. That would certainly be a prime target. I imagine the prime purpose of the soldiers will be providing security for interests like these as to prevent a large-scale hostage situation.
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Where are the protesters?
Where are the media talking heads crying foul? Oh yeah, it's a dem staring this one off, so it must be ok. |
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