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Posted: 9/8/2024 9:30:10 AM EST
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Posted: 9/8/2024 9:31:40 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A big part of the problem is a failure in leadership within LEAs Starting at the top……many which are basically appointed politicians Sheriff’s are literally politicians with a badge... |
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Posted: 9/8/2024 9:37:27 AM EST
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Good, He can pay the taxes on the place.
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Posted: 9/8/2024 9:39:37 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  Ya'll don't pay attention. 20 Most Respected Professions in the US Thu, Nov 30, 2023 6. Police Officers IM Score: 34 While public trust in the US police has faced scrutiny following high-profile incidents in 2020-2021, with major cases like George Floyd (drug over dose) and Breonna Taylor (criminal drug runner), the police is still regarded for their critical role in maintaining law and order in cities. Police officers have one of the most respected careers in the US. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/20-most-respected-professions-us-011504975.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFUaizIs1DT9o6fsA8q0LZLtuXiBf7PdzgV12JOMbbSTCwqSltOF1DYIIid8QxNsYR1JH4QiapId1d7AgAsomMTL-ukfLBSWF-B0_UBXYFdQpndEmXLUT459RonmG-spkEWYf1wmzf9jrmQFvAyh1HFcJnbmC7ELFJ34rHigo4kc LE has consistently ranked in the top tier for the past several decades. Ya'll consistently get it wrong. Again. Is that why folks are beating your doors down to get hired? |
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Posted: 9/8/2024 2:32:05 PM EST
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Posted: 9/8/2024 4:32:27 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's all so tiring when ignorant cops do ignorant shit, and leave us holding the bag. Do you really think the cop was ignorant? Do you really think he believed he owned that house? I say no. I say he was well aware he didn't own the house. I think he just knew he was extremely unlikely to face consequences and could therefore do what he wanted. Enough with this George Costanza Defense to claim that his actions were out of ignorance rather than malice. |
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Posted: 9/9/2024 10:15:16 PM EST
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@LawyerUp enters the chat:
 Cop Enters Home, Arrests Mom, After Neighbor's Noise Complaint |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 12:11:26 AM EST
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Hmmm, wonder why he was so confident acting out the armed attacker role?
Must not have feared any consequences. |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 5:53:40 AM EST
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Quote HistoryI commented on the video about self defense from bad cops. At what point could your group step in and defend their mother? I'd have a VERY hard time standing by and letting him manhandle my mother like that. (At the age of those kids I also wrestled and could have picked him AND my mom up and carried them wherever I wanted.) |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 7:25:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya'll don't pay attention. 20 Most Respected Professions in the US Thu, Nov 30, 2023 6. Police Officers IM Score: 34 While public trust in the US police has faced scrutiny following high-profile incidents in 2020-2021, with major cases like George Floyd (drug over dose) and Breonna Taylor (criminal drug runner), the police is still regarded for their critical role in maintaining law and order in cities. Police officers have one of the most respected careers in the US. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/20-most-respected-professions-us-011504975.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFUaizIs1DT9o6fsA8q0LZLtuXiBf7PdzgV12JOMbbSTCwqSltOF1DYIIid8QxNsYR1JH4QiapId1d7AgAsomMTL-ukfLBSWF-B0_UBXYFdQpndEmXLUT459RonmG-spkEWYf1wmzf9jrmQFvAyh1HFcJnbmC7ELFJ34rHigo4kc LE has consistently ranked in the top tier for the past several decades. Ya'll consistently get it wrong. Again. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: LOL folks in the community where I work love their cops.  Youtube is full of vids from around the country of COPs being plain ole bullies when they could have just walked away. Instead they HAVE to win the pissing match and it ends up being a viral video. Seems like once a month there's a story in the media about police brutality. This kind of shit is why there has been a huge increase of normal everyday citizens losing respect for law enforcement. 30 years ago I had the opinion that if you don't like COPs you must be a criminal. Now I have to complete opposite view. Too many COPs and just bullies who can't control themselves when their ego is challenged and there are too many "good" officers who don't rein in the bad ones before they do something like this clown in the "I own this house" video. I guarantee you this asshole has bullied people before and other officers were on scene and did nothing. What is dangerous is, in that population of people who have lost respect for law enforcement is a small minority of mentally unstable fucknuts that will walk right up to a COP and shoot him in the head. It just happened here in Dallas a week or two ago. Simply Google "police officer ambushed" and get comfortable, you'll be reading for a while. In a societal climate where relations between law enforcement and the public is at it's worst in history and EVERYONE has a video camera in their pockets, dumbass COPs just can't get their shit together and quit stepping on their own dicks. Ya'll don't pay attention. 20 Most Respected Professions in the US Thu, Nov 30, 2023 6. Police Officers IM Score: 34 While public trust in the US police has faced scrutiny following high-profile incidents in 2020-2021, with major cases like George Floyd (drug over dose) and Breonna Taylor (criminal drug runner), the police is still regarded for their critical role in maintaining law and order in cities. Police officers have one of the most respected careers in the US. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/20-most-respected-professions-us-011504975.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFUaizIs1DT9o6fsA8q0LZLtuXiBf7PdzgV12JOMbbSTCwqSltOF1DYIIid8QxNsYR1JH4QiapId1d7AgAsomMTL-ukfLBSWF-B0_UBXYFdQpndEmXLUT459RonmG-spkEWYf1wmzf9jrmQFvAyh1HFcJnbmC7ELFJ34rHigo4kc LE has consistently ranked in the top tier for the past several decades. Ya'll consistently get it wrong. Again. From your link: Our Methodology To list the most respected professions in the US, we utilized Reddit threads as our primary source of research as the user-base is largely American. I have no dog in this fight, but that article is a joke and should only be used as supporting evidence to show how awful “journalism” has become. |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 7:40:59 AM EST
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Vehemently denies he's inside the house...then declares he is inside the house and he owns it?? WTH
Alleges his justification for entry is the minors fled after opening then closing the door on him?? The female most definitely got inside his personal space, but she was inside her own house asking him repeatedly to step outside to talk to her. I'm sure it's been said already but none of this is okay. Perhaps he got caught up in the emotions of the moment, but none of this passes muster. To add insult to injury they charged her with   FFSeta: none of this will stand up in court if she has a decent lawyer. And there will be civil fallout for her time and expenses. |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 8:02:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: eta: none of this will stand up in court if she has a decent lawyer. And there will be civil fallout for her time and expenses. I hope he loses QI. |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 9:27:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sheriff’s are literally politicians with a badge... |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 9:27:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good, He can pay the taxes on the place. not gonna lie, that actually crossed my mind when watching the video. |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 9:39:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I commented on the video about self defense from bad cops. At what point could your group step in and defend their mother? I'd have a VERY hard time standing by and letting him manhandle my mother like that. (At the age of those kids I also wrestled and could have picked him AND my mom up and carried them wherever I wanted.) Quote HistoryQuoted: I commented on the video about self defense from bad cops. At what point could your group step in and defend their mother? I'd have a VERY hard time standing by and letting him manhandle my mother like that. (At the age of those kids I also wrestled and could have picked him AND my mom up and carried them wherever I wanted.) The theoretical right to use self defense against a police officer is an issue of state-specific self defense law. For instance, in researching the Sonya Massey case (I think it was) state law there provides that you can assert the affirmative defense of self defense against a police officer in response to unlawful excessive force - but not just an unlawful arrest without excessive force. So it's state specific. Because it's state law that would charge you with the crime for which you require a defense. |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 9:41:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good, He can pay the taxes on the place. He’d never say that in Texas
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Posted: 9/10/2024 11:24:53 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The theoretical right to use self defense against a police officer is an issue of state-specific self defense law. For instance, in researching the Sonya Massey case (I think it was) state law there provides that you can assert the affirmative defense of self defense against a police officer in response to unlawful excessive force - but not just an unlawful arrest without excessive force. So it's state specific. Because it's state law that would charge you with the crime for which you require a defense. I'd expect to be killed right then and there, but you're not doing THAT to my mother. |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 1:38:54 PM EST
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The one thing I most don't understand bout this whole shit show is why the Sheriff and the Prosecuting attorney didn't toss the deputy under the bus to get the hot potato off their laps as soon as the video came out. Even more amazing, the sheriff seems to be trying to cover for this thug with a badge.
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Posted: 9/10/2024 1:52:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The one thing I most don't understand bout this whole shit show is why the Sheriff and the Prosecuting attorney didn't toss the deputy under the bus to get the hot potato off their laps as soon as the video came out. Even more amazing, the sheriff seems to be trying to cover for this thug with a badge. |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 1:56:57 PM EST
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If any other person came into your home with a gun, they wouldn't leave under their own power.
This is how people get hurt. What round will that armor stop? |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 2:25:52 PM EST
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Wonder if there was ever a time where a man (Maybe a husband or brother) confronts that man (LEO) because he crossed a line, literally? A good ol' punch to the nose, then tell him don't fucking go back to that house. Done. Of course not! That would be assaulting an officer. Haha.
Nowadays, it's a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo, lawyers, huge $, people getting fired, cities getting sued, etc. That dude just needs to be put back in his place is all. It's all pretty lame nowadays. |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 2:52:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wonder if there was ever a time where a man (Maybe a husband or brother) confronts that man (LEO) because he crossed a line, literally? A good ol' punch to the nose, then tell him don't fucking go back to that house. Done. Of course not! That would be assaulting an officer. Haha. Nowadays, it's a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo, lawyers, huge $, people getting fired, cities getting sued, etc. That dude just needs to be put back in his place is all. It's all pretty lame nowadays. Government agents protect their own. |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 4:13:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wonder if there was ever a time where a man (Maybe a husband or brother) confronts that man (LEO) because he crossed a line, literally? A good ol' punch to the nose, then tell him don't fucking go back to that house. Done. Of course not! That would be assaulting an officer. Haha. Nowadays, it's a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo, lawyers, huge $, people getting fired, cities getting sued, etc. That dude just needs to be put back in his place is all. It's all pretty lame nowadays. Punch in the nose = cop mag dumping into the husband or brother's chest and then getting a commendation for bravery and a promotion. |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 6:03:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The theoretical right to use self defense against a police officer is an issue of state-specific self defense law. For instance, in researching the Sonya Massey case (I think it was) state law there provides that you can assert the affirmative defense of self defense against a police officer in response to unlawful excessive force - but not just an unlawful arrest without excessive force. So it's state specific. Because it's state law that would charge you with the crime for which you require a defense. Using an affirmative defense is risky at best. You have to admit to the charge, but claim extenuating circumstances. If they don't accept the defense part, you have already admitted to the crime. Or do I misunderstand the situation? |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 6:15:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Punch in the nose = cop mag dumping into the husband or brother's chest and then getting a commendation for bravery and a promotion. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wonder if there was ever a time where a man (Maybe a husband or brother) confronts that man (LEO) because he crossed a line, literally? A good ol' punch to the nose, then tell him don't fucking go back to that house. Done. Of course not! That would be assaulting an officer. Haha. Nowadays, it's a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo, lawyers, huge $, people getting fired, cities getting sued, etc. That dude just needs to be put back in his place is all. It's all pretty lame nowadays. Punch in the nose = cop mag dumping into the husband or brother's chest and then getting a commendation for bravery and a promotion. yup. unfortunately, you need to just hang back, state your case out loud for the cameras, and wait for the paycheck. Folks....cameras. cameras all over. |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 6:18:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My front door has a speakeasy, it's great. Your front door has a Prohibition era illegal bar? |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 6:34:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your front door has a Prohibition era illegal bar? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My front door has a speakeasy, it's great. Your front door has a Prohibition era illegal bar? Tell them Ken sent you. |
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Posted: 9/10/2024 6:45:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: yup. unfortunately, you need to just hang back, state your case out loud for the cameras, and wait for the paycheck. Folks....cameras. cameras all over. Why do we always trust the process? Does that always work? Is it changing things in the slightest? I'm not sure that is the correct strategy for countering this type of behavior. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 5:43:46 PM EST
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New footage:
 EXCLUSIVE New Footage and UPDATES of Warrantless Entry |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 6:16:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryIt's so odd to see the other officers on the scene backing his illegal acts. I thought it would have been one bad apple. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 6:20:07 PM EST
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Posted: 9/11/2024 6:23:58 PM EST
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SCOTUS already ruled that the foot inside the door and refusing to move it was unconstitutional.
Now the foot or stepping inside the door is like the new version of the identification addiction? |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 6:27:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SCOTUS already ruled that the foot inside the door and refusing to move it was unconstitutional. Now the foot or stepping inside the door is like the new version of the identification addiction? In the Carolina’s fifteen years ago the cops killed a guys for closing the door on their foot. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 6:38:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In the Carolina’s fifteen years ago the cops killed a guys for closing the door on their foot. I want a hardened steel front door on 7500 lbs pneumatic rams. It's open or closed. Warning sign in place, property owner not liable for partial amputation. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 6:49:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: SCOTUS already ruled that the foot inside the door and refusing to move it was unconstitutional. Now the foot or stepping inside the door is like the new version of the identification addiction? Got a link for that? Not that I don’t believe you. But having an actual ruling could potentially help someone out. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 6:49:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope he loses QI. It will be hard to keep it. Plenty of case law covering when you can enter regarding type of crime and fresh pursuit. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 6:51:22 PM EST
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That should be instant loss of employment, charged with trespassing, assault, illegal detainment and whatever else the rest of us would get charged with for being that POS.
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Posted: 9/11/2024 6:59:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It will be hard to keep it. Plenty of case law covering when you can enter regarding type of crime and fresh pursuit. I wouldn’t want to argue fresh pursuit if I were him. He’d have to argue he had the authority to seize someone on sight. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 7:00:16 PM EST
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Is this cop in the "Gunfighters" motorcycle gang with Danny Torres?
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Posted: 9/11/2024 7:12:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I want a hardened steel front door on 7500 lbs pneumatic rams. It's open or closed. Warning sign in place, property owner not liable for partial amputation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In the Carolina’s fifteen years ago the cops killed a guys for closing the door on their foot. I want a hardened steel front door on 7500 lbs pneumatic rams. It's open or closed. Warning sign in place, property owner not liable for partial amputation. I am reading this as a 7500 pound steel door on pneumatic rams. Also, maybe they didn't kill him over the foot. Maybe they just had to get it on. The foot was an excuse. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 7:22:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's so odd to see the other officers on the scene backing his illegal acts. I thought it would have been one bad apple. I saw more silence then backing and they kept out of the house after he entered a 2nd time. looks like they were smart & wanted to keep their jobs |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 7:45:03 PM EST
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So what is the contributing to the delinquency of a minor bs?
Did Officer fuckface just make this up? |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 7:59:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what is the contributing to the delinquency of a minor bs? Did Officer fuckface just make this up? There was alcohol in the house. Discovered during the illegal search. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 8:01:13 PM EST
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I called their non emergency information line to ask if he was still employed with their department and the lady sighed and said she couldn’t comment on the matter. I’m guessing they’re getting a lot of similar calls.
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Posted: 9/11/2024 8:30:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There was alcohol in the house. Discovered during the illegal search. a legal substance, triggered a 2nd illegal search. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 8:48:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wouldn’t want to argue fresh pursuit if I were him. He’d have to argue he had the authority to seize someone on sight. And severity of crime. Which he doesn't have either. Misdemeanor at best, so he is going to lose the fresh pursuit. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 9:28:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It will be hard to keep it. Plenty of case law covering when you can enter regarding type of crime and fresh pursuit. Quote HistoryQuoted: It will be hard to keep it. Plenty of case law covering when you can enter regarding type of crime and fresh pursuit. They don’t want him to lose that because they’ll never get paid. Quoted: Punch in the nose = cop mag dumping into the husband or brother's chest and then getting a commendation for bravery and a promotion. Quite a few cops have gotten punched without the other person getting shot. Being punched on its face is not a deadly force scenario. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 10:53:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Got a link for that? Not that I don’t believe you. But having an actual ruling could potentially help someone out. I don't have a link offhand, because I don't know you nor like you enough to help you out with your lack of situational awareness. I'll have to look it up, just like you would. I would start with Google search terms "SCOTUS decision foot in door" "SCOTUS UNLAWFUL ENTRY" "US vs Santana". US v Santana being at least one case of interest. If you can't read between the BS, then try duck duck go as a search engine as Google certainly throttles your search. Let us know how you do. Honestly in this day and age, if you can't figure it out, you're likely a lost cause. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 10:59:37 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They don’t want him to lose that because they’ll never get paid. Quite a few cops have gotten punched without the other person getting shot. Being punched on its face is not a deadly force scenario. It’s okay, they’ll probably indemnify him anyways. |
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Posted: 9/11/2024 11:18:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They don’t want him to lose that because they’ll never get paid. Quite a few cops have gotten punched without the other person getting shot. Being punched on its face is not a deadly force scenario. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It will be hard to keep it. Plenty of case law covering when you can enter regarding type of crime and fresh pursuit. They don’t want him to lose that because they’ll never get paid. Quoted: Punch in the nose = cop mag dumping into the husband or brother's chest and then getting a commendation for bravery and a promotion. Quite a few cops have gotten punched without the other person getting shot. Being punched on its face is not a deadly force scenario. Officer Waingrow had to get it on... they made a move. |
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