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Posted: 9/30/2019 12:09:53 PM EST
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Steelers need to cut Moncrief. His hands have turned to stone. I know about his finger. I think my Steelers are going 0-4 after tonight.  Nah... I think the Steelers win. However if they do lose to the Bungles... Pittsburgh just might burn tonight. And Tomlin might not have a job |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 12:12:56 PM EST
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Against the Bungles? Nah... I think the Steelers win. However if they do lose to the Bungles... Pittsburgh just might burn tonight. And Tomlin might not have a job Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Steelers need to cut Moncrief. His hands have turned to stone. I know about his finger. I think my Steelers are going 0-4 after tonight. Nah... I think the Steelers win. However if they do lose to the Bungles... Pittsburgh just might burn tonight. And Tomlin might not have a job Longest in NFL right now. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 12:18:14 PM EST
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Home winning streak on Monday Night Football is also on the line. Longest in NFL right now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Steelers need to cut Moncrief. His hands have turned to stone. I know about his finger. I think my Steelers are going 0-4 after tonight. Nah... I think the Steelers win. However if they do lose to the Bungles... Pittsburgh just might burn tonight. And Tomlin might not have a job Longest in NFL right now. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 12:32:39 PM EST
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Edit: It is the longest suspension for an on-field act in NFL history. Albert Haynesworth was suspended five games for kicking, then stomping on Cowboys' C Andre Gurode's face. Gurode needed 30 stitches. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 12:35:05 PM EST
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Posted: 9/30/2019 12:41:03 PM EST
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Posted: 9/30/2019 1:19:25 PM EST
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It sucks to see the kid injured. On the other hand, I find it hilarious that the Dolphins are tanking deliberately and the Donkeys are achieving the same level of performance through pure incompetence. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 1:31:32 PM EST
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It sucks to see the kid injured. On the other hand, I find it hilarious that the Dolphins are tanking deliberately and the Donkeys are achieving the same level of performance through pure incompetence. It's amazing that the Broncos haven't had any success yet, since they actually have a pretty talented team. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 2:01:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That really sucks about Chubb. It's amazing that the Broncos haven't had any success yet, since they actually have a pretty talented team. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 3:30:20 PM EST
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Steelers need to cut Moncrief. His hands have turned to stone. I know about his finger. I think my Steelers are going 0-4 after tonight. 
Jesus, that hurt to type out. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 3:44:11 PM EST
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The Saints have gone 30 games without allowing a 100 yard rusher. Longest active streak in the NFL.
Opposing kickers are only 9 of 18 against the Chargers. The NFC South combined for 4 passing touchdowns this week. All by Winston. There have been 8 different backup QBs to start games so far this season. This is 4th most through week 4 since 1950. That number could increased next week with Josh Allen (concussion), Mitchell Trubisky (shoulder) and Case Keenum (benched mid-game) in question. A beer vendor at Hard Rock Stadium (Miami Dolphins) was arrested and faces charges of third degree grand larceny after he used a skimming device to charge a Dolphin's fan $724 for two beers. The fan received a bank notification right after the purchase which made them aware of the scam and led to the vendor's arrest. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 3:48:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: On the flip side, if the Steelers win tonight they're only 1 game behind the division-leading Browns/Ravens.
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Posted: 9/30/2019 4:12:04 PM EST
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Kirk Cousins: 3 years, $84M Stefon Diggs: 5 years, $81M Adam Thielen: 4 years, $64M 31st in passing yards per game 32nd in passing first downs per game Kirk is 5-27 career against teams with a winning record. Today is the 5th anniversary of Trent Dilfer declaring the Patriots "not good anymore" after losing 41-14 to the Chiefs on MNF. Since then the Patriots are 76-18 with 5 AFCCG appearances, 4 SB appearances, and 3 SB championships. Khalil Mack on not wanting to over celebrate Sunday's win over a divisional rival, "A dog that poop fast don't poop for long man." Khalil Mack has 10 forced fumbles in 18 games with the Bears. The Chicago Bears are now 5-1 when scoring fewer than 20 points since 2018. The rest of the NFL is 28-186 in such games in that span. Browns now in a tie for first place in AFC North for first time since Week 10 of 2014, when they led by half a game. Sunday also marked first time in franchise history they had a 300-yard passer (Baker Mayfield), 150-yard rusher (Nick Chubb) and 150-yard receiver (Jarvis Landry). The NFC South is special this season: Saints won without a touchdown. Panthers won with their backup QB losing 3 fumbles. Buccaneers scored 55 against the defending NFC Champs. Matt Ryan went 35 of 53 for 397 yards but didn't throw a TD. The Dolphins are not in last place in the AFC. They have the strength of schedule tie breaker over the Broncos. The Broncos have lost 8 straight games. The Broncos have NEVER started 0-5 before. They are 6.5 point dogs at the Chargers next week. The Dolphins have not won a game since the Miami Miracle. Hope they enjoyed it. The Falcons have trailed by double digit points for 63.8% of their offensive snaps. This is the highest rate in the league, even higher than the Dolphins (62.8%). The player with the most guaranteed money in NFL history (Jared Goff) has 9 turnovers to 7 TDs through 25% of the season. Rich Gannon, reportedly quoting a former coach of his, on the Lions goal line fumble, "... it's better to die as a baby than fumble on the goal line." Pat Mahomes finished the game 0-9 on deep pass attempts. It marked his first NFL game without a deep completion. Tom Brady, to The Greg Hill Show on the Josh Allen hit, "I had a play like that up in Buffalo ... I remember the next day Coach Belichick said to me - I'll never forget this - 'Hey Brady, if you want to have a career in this league, when you're running like that, you throw the ball away or slide.'" With last night's -3 yards rushing, Tom Brady is back at exactly 1000 yards for his career. Even though they won, Tom Brady's passer rating of just 45.9 is his lowest since November 11th 2006. After the game, "I am frustrated when we don't play well. I am frustrated when we don't score points. I am happy when we win. It's a lot of mixed emotions." The Patriots defense is averaging 3.25 points per game. 13 points surrendered on defense in 4 games. 10 INTs and 18 sacks. Jay Gruden accepted a penalty on 3rd and 7 after an incompletion, making it 3rd and 17 instead of 4th and 7. The Giants went on to score a TD on that drive. Jaguars QB Gardner Minshew has the highest passer rating (106.9) and completion percentage (69.4%) of any rookie in the Super Bowl era (1966-present) through their first 4 games. The Jaguars are 2-0 since Ramsey made his trade request to go to a contender. Tonight will be the first ever MNF game between to 0-3 teams. The Eagles cutting LJ Fort has triggered a cascade of events where the Steelers will lose their 3rd round comp pick for Le'Veon Bell unless they cut Donte Moncrief who just signed a $9M contract in March. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 4:13:37 PM EST
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I disagree with the "keep Foles trade Wentz" theory. I also don't think any team will dominate the division. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If they traded Wentz for a couple of firsts there might be a decent chance of that. As is, I don’t think any team is “dominating that division for the foreseeable future.” There hasn’t been a back-to-back division winner in over a decade. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 4:14:11 PM EST
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Is today finally the day Gruden gets fired? |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 4:17:42 PM EST
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So I pull up the NFL app to check injury news and this pops up.
 Attached FileThe QB of a team that scored 10 points in a loss (with his own defense playing lights out) “has nothing to do” with the loss? Deion might want to get himself checked out by a doctor because I think those hair plugs might be effecting his brain. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 4:21:29 PM EST
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If it hasn’t happened by now I assume he’s safe another week.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is today finally the day Gruden gets fired? |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 4:23:17 PM EST
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So I pull up the NFL app to check injury news and this pops up. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/258158/9309415A-8E2D-4C2B-9B3A-ACAF8C1C42EF_jpeg-1108068.JPG The QB of a team that scored 10 points in a loss (with his own defense playing lights out) “has nothing to do” with the loss? Deion might want to get himself checked out by a doctor because I think those hair plugs might be effecting his brain. 
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Posted: 9/30/2019 4:31:36 PM EST
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Obviously Deion is correct. Dak has more fourth quarter comebacks than any other QB since 2016, the problem isn't him, it's obviously somewhere else. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I pull up the NFL app to check injury news and this pops up. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/258158/9309415A-8E2D-4C2B-9B3A-ACAF8C1C42EF_jpeg-1108068.JPG The QB of a team that scored 10 points in a loss (with his own defense playing lights out) “has nothing to do” with the loss? Deion might want to get himself checked out by a doctor because I think those hair plugs might be effecting his brain. 
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Posted: 9/30/2019 4:38:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Obviously Deion is correct. Dak has more fourth quarter comebacks than any other QB since 2016, the problem isn't him, it's obviously somewhere else.  Colin Cowherd reacts to NFL executives ranking starting quarterbacks in 4 tiers | NFL | THE HERD |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 4:47:31 PM EST
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So I pull up the NFL app to check injury news and this pops up. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/258158/9309415A-8E2D-4C2B-9B3A-ACAF8C1C42EF_jpeg-1108068.JPG The QB of a team that scored 10 points in a loss (with his own defense playing lights out) "has nothing to do" with the loss? Deion might want to get himself checked out by a doctor because I think those hair plugs might be effecting his brain. According to PFR, he attempted just 4 passes of 15+ yards all night, 2 complete, 2 incomplete. And 3 of them came in the last 30 seconds of the game. When you're playing a team that is doing everything they can to stop the run (Elliott, 18 carries, 35 yards) you HAVE to open up the field, complete some deeper passes and make the defense pay for stacking the box. Something Dak has done pretty well up until yesterday. But he didn't even try yesterday. 1 pass attempt of more than 15 yards before the final 30 seconds of the game... That is nuts when you're averaging less than 2 yards a carry all night. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:02:22 PM EST
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TIED for the most. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I pull up the NFL app to check injury news and this pops up. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/258158/9309415A-8E2D-4C2B-9B3A-ACAF8C1C42EF_jpeg-1108068.JPG The QB of a team that scored 10 points in a loss (with his own defense playing lights out) “has nothing to do” with the loss? Deion might want to get himself checked out by a doctor because I think those hair plugs might be effecting his brain. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:06:02 PM EST
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This list has been very accurate. Dak is the number 17 Quarterback in the league.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GSWm18M8o8 |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:08:46 PM EST
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It's not gonna feel like a proper Bengals Steelers game without Burfict trying to paralyze somebody.
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:09:11 PM EST
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:10:35 PM EST
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Vegas still has the Cowboys as the favorites to win the NFC.
And no, I didn't forget to add "East" to the end of that.
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:10:45 PM EST
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It's not gonna feel like a proper Bengals Steelers game without Burfict trying to paralyze somebody. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:16:03 PM EST
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Vegas still has the Cowboys as the favorites to win the NFC.
And no, I didn't forget to add "East" to the end of that. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:16:39 PM EST
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My bad, tied. Who is he tied with, I don't remember seeing any other active QB's at 8? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I pull up the NFL app to check injury news and this pops up. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/258158/9309415A-8E2D-4C2B-9B3A-ACAF8C1C42EF_jpeg-1108068.JPG The QB of a team that scored 10 points in a loss (with his own defense playing lights out) “has nothing to do” with the loss? Deion might want to get himself checked out by a doctor because I think those hair plugs might be effecting his brain. 
I pulled up the list here and while you can't change it to only count fourth quarter comebacks from 2016, you can pull up the list of 4QC's from active QB's (in bold) and just look at the ones from 2016 and later. It says Dak has 8. One of the first guys I pulled up is Derek Carr and he has 11 4QC's since 2016. Russell Wilson has 8 if you don't include the one from this season, 9 if you do. Matthew Stafford has 9 if you don't include ones from this season, 11 if you do. Drew brees has 10 if you don't include ones from this season, 11 if you do. HK, you been BS'ing us? 
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:20:49 PM EST
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Do you not think that is accurate? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Vegas still has the Cowboys as the favorites to win the NFC.
And no, I didn't forget to add "East" to the end of that. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:21:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya know...something seems fucky here...
I pulled up the list here and while you can't change it to only count fourth quarter comebacks from 2016, you can pull up the list of 4QC's from active QB's (in bold) and just look at the ones from 2016 and later. It says Dak has 8. One of the first guys I pulled up is Derek Carr and he has 11 4QC's since 2016. Russell Wilson has 8 if you don't include the one from this season, 9 if you do. Matthew Stafford has 9 if you don't include ones from this season, 11 if you do. Drew brees has 10 if you don't include ones from this season, 11 if you do. HK, you been BS'ing us? 
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:29:02 PM EST
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Ya know...something seems fucky here...
I pulled up the list here and while you can't change it to only count fourth quarter comebacks from 2016, you can pull up the list of 4QC's from active QB's (in bold) and just look at the ones from 2016 and later. It says Dak has 8. One of the first guys I pulled up is Derek Carr and he has 11 4QC's since 2016. Russell Wilson has 8 if you don't include the one from this season, 9 if you do. Matthew Stafford has 9 if you don't include ones from this season, 11 if you do. Drew brees has 10 if you don't include ones from this season, 11 if you do. HK, you been BS'ing us? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So I pull up the NFL app to check injury news and this pops up. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/258158/9309415A-8E2D-4C2B-9B3A-ACAF8C1C42EF_jpeg-1108068.JPG The QB of a team that scored 10 points in a loss (with his own defense playing lights out) “has nothing to do” with the loss? Deion might want to get himself checked out by a doctor because I think those hair plugs might be effecting his brain.
I pulled up the list here and while you can't change it to only count fourth quarter comebacks from 2016, you can pull up the list of 4QC's from active QB's (in bold) and just look at the ones from 2016 and later. It says Dak has 8. One of the first guys I pulled up is Derek Carr and he has 11 4QC's since 2016. Russell Wilson has 8 if you don't include the one from this season, 9 if you do. Matthew Stafford has 9 if you don't include ones from this season, 11 if you do. Drew brees has 10 if you don't include ones from this season, 11 if you do. HK, you been BS'ing us?  Attached File
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:34:18 PM EST
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It's not that far off, but it was just funny to see that after last night. Especially combined with the overreactions of the Cowboys' season being basically over now. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:36:10 PM EST
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Who's saying it's over? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's not that far off, but it was just funny to see that after last night. Especially combined with the overreactions of the Cowboys' season being basically over now.
Mostly hysterical Cowboys fans, TBH.
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:39:10 PM EST
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"Basically" over.
Mostly hysterical Cowboys fans, TBH. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:39:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryAh, GWD's, not 4QC's. My mistake.
Although, that makes it's less impressive IMO. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:45:43 PM EST
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lol they're fine. Only way Eagles give them a fight is if they can sure up the secondary. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"Basically" over.
Mostly hysterical Cowboys fans, TBH.
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:47:34 PM EST
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I think every fan base is like that though. At least the extreme end of the fan base. Eat Day Pussy, for example. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:49:06 PM EST
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Vegas still has the Cowboys as the favorites to win the NFC.
And no, I didn't forget to add "East" to the end of that. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:49:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryI think I figured out what happened. Where I think the above search went wrong is there is a difference between a come back drive (scoring in the 4th quarter when down by 1 to 8 points) and a game winning drive (scoring to win from a tied or deficit position).
If you select both on PFR, you would think you would get results for both, but you don't. It only gives you the results for a comeback because it thinks it must be BOTH a comeback and game winning drive. If you search JUST game winning drives, it does include come backs. With that search Dak has 14 since 2016. It says Drew Brees and Matt Stafford also have 14. Derek Carr 11. Case Keenum, Marcus Mariota and Russell Wilson have 10. Tom Brady, Eli Manning and Ben R at 9. Kirk Cousins, Andy Dalton and Aaron Rodgers with 8. Jared Goff, Andrew Luck, Philip Rivers and Matt Ryan with 7. Edit: All of those results are from 2016 and on. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:50:02 PM EST
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Ah, GWD's, not 4QC's. My mistake. Although, that makes it's less impressive IMO. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Ah, GWD's, not 4QC's. My mistake.
Although, that makes it's less impressive IMO. Especially for a player that supposedly sucks, can't hit the broad side of a barn, etc.
Edit: though I appreciate you being man enough to just admit "my mistake." Some here would dig their feet in. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:55:16 PM EST
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And just for shits and giggles, total game winning drives for QB's since 2000.
Drew Brees 49 Peyton Manning 46 Tom Brady 44 Ben R 42 Eli Manning 37 Matt Ryan 37 Carson Palmer 35 Matt Stafford 34 Philip Rivers 31 Tony Romo 29 JAY MOTHER FUCKING CUTLER 28 If you include post season, the top 5 becomes: Tom Brady 57 Drew Brees 52 Peyton Manning 48 Ben R 46 Eli Manning 42 |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:55:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah not a great season start for sure. Von and Chubb were the great 1-2 punch. But have lost talent over the years to trades for FA compared to the 2015ish Wade Phillips D. On the other side, we don't have a real #1 WR. Sanders is a stud but he's not tall enough to contend for balls and TE is a mess as well. Lindsay is a stud RB but so far, Flacco looks confused, and nobody seems to be on the same page half the time. I actually think Flacco has been ok for the most part. As for the defense I have no idea what’s going on there. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 5:58:49 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cortland Sutton is coming around. I believe Fant will be much better next year. Tight end is tough for rookies. I actually think Flacco has been ok for the most part. As for the defense I have no idea what’s going on there. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 6:01:26 PM EST
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Yes, 14 4th quarter/OT comeback win drives would be more impressive than 14 4th quarter/OT game winning drives. Still, for a relative young player to be tied for most in the NFL is impressive, IMO. Especially for a player that supposedly sucks, can't hit the broad side of a barn, etc.
Edit: though I appreciate you being man enough to just admit "my mistake." Some here would dig their feet in. Again, I'm not trying to take anything away from Dak, I think he is a decent QB, but I'm just not sold on the idea of using this stat to judge Dak in any fashion. And if I'm wrong or made a mistake, it is what it is. Not like Dak's stats define me or anything
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Posted: 9/30/2019 6:08:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cortland Sutton is coming around. I believe Fant will be much better next year. Tight end is tough for rookies. I actually think Flacco has been ok for the most part. As for the defense I have no idea what’s going on there. I'm glad GB got Sternberger since they missed on Hockenson and Fant, but both those other guys look like they will be decent starting TE's for the foreseeable future and Sternberger has been hurt 95% of the time since he was drafted 
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Posted: 9/30/2019 6:12:16 PM EST
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I feel like I'm being punished with this MNF matchup. What did we do to deserve this?
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Posted: 9/30/2019 6:19:11 PM EST
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I feel like I'm being punished with this MNF matchup. What did we do to deserve this? So on top of this game being likely to be awful, I have to sit there and wonder which team is going to fuck it up worse and how that affects my outcome in fantasy, lol. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 6:20:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In one of my fantasy league matchups I'm currently winning 89.20 points to 88.78 points. I have James Conner left to play and he has Joe Mixon left to play. So on top of this game being likely to be awful, I have to sit there and wonder which team is going to fuck it up worse and how that affects my outcome in fantasy, lol. |
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Posted: 9/30/2019 6:20:18 PM EST
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I feel like I'm being punished with this MNF matchup. What did we do to deserve this? Someone @ me if someone throws a dildo on the field or something.
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