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Posted: 3/21/2022 4:25:09 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Right now it sounds like the Eagles love Minshew and don't want to let him go unless it is a sweet deal, and no one is giving up something good for Minshew. Dude is trapped in back up land.  This year is the last year of his contract though. $2.5M We'll see what happens next year. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's a suprise. Over Gardner Minshew, Baker and Jimmy G? This year is the last year of his contract though. $2.5M We'll see what happens next year. You can’t blame them. Hurts isn’t exactly a sure thing. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 4:25:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven't been following the draft long enough to say, but I'm guessing it's a damn long time. Some people are saying it's because of the free Covid year developing a bunch of tackles and corners and edge rushers for an extra year, but man. There's just no QB talent available. Pickett put up okay numbers against okay competition. Other than that, there's a Memphis, or Louisville guy? NOBODY after that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Looking at the mock drafts it is fuckin' wild to see ZERO QBs going in the top 8 and only ONE going in the top 16.  The QBs really, really suck this year. And I'm absolutely not sold on Kenny Pickett. He'll probably go top 5 just because someone gets desperate every year, but damn. I've never seen a QB class this bad. Oh, I totally understand why. It's just crazy to actually see it. I mean when was the last time we had ZERO QBs go in the top 8 and only ONE go in the top 16? I haven't been following the draft long enough to say, but I'm guessing it's a damn long time. Some people are saying it's because of the free Covid year developing a bunch of tackles and corners and edge rushers for an extra year, but man. There's just no QB talent available. Pickett put up okay numbers against okay competition. Other than that, there's a Memphis, or Louisville guy? NOBODY after that. On the plus side, there should be only two QBs off the board by the time the Packers' first pick comes up.  |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 4:26:16 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Right now it sounds like the Eagles love Minshew and don't want to let him go unless it is a sweet deal, and no one is giving up something good for Minshew. Dude is trapped in back up land. This year is the last year of his contract though. $2.5M We'll see what happens next year. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's a suprise. Over Gardner Minshew, Baker and Jimmy G? This year is the last year of his contract though. $2.5M We'll see what happens next year. Am I the only one that was baffled at how little interest there was in Minshew? I'm not saying he's a top 10 franchise QB or anything, but he had a TD/INT ratio of 3.36/1 and a Passer Rating of 93.5 in hist first two seasons as the starter for the JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS, was set to make only $3.4M over the next two seasons, and all the Jags got for him was a 6th round pick. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 4:27:40 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Last season the Eagles set an NFL record for biggest dead cap hit ($33.8M) when they traded Wentz to the Colts. This season the Falcons set a new NFL record for biggest dead cap hit ($40.525M) when they traded Ryan to the Colts. Falcons now have over 30% of the cap in dead money. $136m in cap space for 2023 currently. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 4:29:01 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Emphasizing what I said above...
 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Seattle and Atlanta are not in on Baker. Leaves Panthers and I find it unlikely they make that move after the Sam Darnold move last year. Puts Cleveland in an interesting spot. Baker is on his 5th year option. It's $18.9M fully guaranteed. Cleveland has to pay him that full amount if they can't unload him. They have zero leverage in trying to deal him.
Is a one year rental on a 27 year old diva QB with a losing record and a career Passer Rating of 87.8 even worth a fully guaranteed $18.9M? Never mind having to give up draft capital for the privilege. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 4:29:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Am I the only one that was baffled at how little interest there was in Minshew? I'm not saying he's a top 10 franchise QB or anything, but he had a TD/INT ratio of 3.36/1 and a Passer Rating of 93.5 in hist first two seasons as the starter for the JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS, was set to make only $3.4M over the next two seasons, and all the Jags got for him was a 6th round pick. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: That's a suprise. Over Gardner Minshew, Baker and Jimmy G? This year is the last year of his contract though. $2.5M We'll see what happens next year. Am I the only one that was baffled at how little interest there was in Minshew? I'm not saying he's a top 10 franchise QB or anything, but he had a TD/INT ratio of 3.36/1 and a Passer Rating of 93.5 in hist first two seasons as the starter for the JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS, was set to make only $3.4M over the next two seasons, and all the Jags got for him was a 6th round pick. I'm baffled by it. The guy is a baller. His teammates and fans love him. He is also very intelligent. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 4:30:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm baffled by it. The guy is a baller. His teammates and the fans love him too. He is also very intelligent. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That's a suprise. Over Gardner Minshew, Baker and Jimmy G? This year is the last year of his contract though. $2.5M We'll see what happens next year. Am I the only one that was baffled at how little interest there was in Minshew? I'm not saying he's a top 10 franchise QB or anything, but he had a TD/INT ratio of 3.36/1 and a Passer Rating of 93.5 in hist first two seasons as the starter for the JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS, was set to make only $3.4M over the next two seasons, and all the Jags got for him was a 6th round pick. I'm baffled by it. The guy is a baller. His teammates and the fans love him too. He is also very intelligent. He is Baker Mayfield but not a jackass. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 4:31:38 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is a one year rental on a 27 year old diva QB with a losing record and a career Passer Rating of 87.8 even worth a fully guaranteed $18.9M? Never mind having to give up draft capital for the privilege. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 4:33:07 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: $14M a season for Crab Legs isn't horrible. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 4:34:05 PM EDT
[#10]
Any predictions for the Groot and Calamari contract predicaments the Ravens and Cardinals find themselves in?
Things already weren't looking good for them BEFORE the Browns gave up 3 firsts, 1 third, and 1 fourth just for the right to give Watson a 5 year/$230M fully guaranteed deal.  |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 4:37:53 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. Hopefully he will get them by until they find another franchise guy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: $14M a season for Crab Legs isn't horrible. Some of the mock drafts I saw had the Saints drafting Matt Corral. Granted, it's the worst QB draft class in decades, but being able to use the #18 pick to draft the player some consider the best QB in the draft is pretty good. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 4:38:47 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is a one year rental on a 27 year old diva QB with a losing record and a career Passer Rating of 87.8 even worth a fully guaranteed $18.9M? Never mind having to give up draft capital for the privilege. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Seattle and Atlanta are not in on Baker. Leaves Panthers and I find it unlikely they make that move after the Sam Darnold move last year. Puts Cleveland in an interesting spot. Baker is on his 5th year option. It's $18.9M fully guaranteed. Cleveland has to pay him that full amount if they can't unload him. They have zero leverage in trying to deal him.
Is a one year rental on a 27 year old diva QB with a losing record and a career Passer Rating of 87.8 even worth a fully guaranteed $18.9M? Never mind having to give up draft capital for the privilege. Baker and Darnold... Both could end up being paid $19M guaranteed to sit on the bench this year. Good for them. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 4:39:48 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any predictions for the Groot and Calamari contract predicaments the Ravens and Cardinals find themselves in? Things already weren't looking good for them BEFORE the Browns gave up 3 firsts, 1 third, and 1 fourth just for the right to give Watson a 5 year/$230M fully guaranteed deal. Groot will sign the first billion dollar contract. But it will only have $70 million in guarantees. Calimari will be traded or cut when the cardinals miss the playoffs. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 4:40:08 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. Hopefully he will get them by until they find another franchise guy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: $14M a season for Crab Legs isn't horrible. I really thought Winston was going to have a bigger market this year. He looked solid until the ACL. He certainly had his lowest turnover percentage of his career in 2021. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 4:46:29 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Groot will sign the first billion dollar contract. But it will only have $70 million in guarantees. Calimari will be traded or cut when the cardinals miss the playoffs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Any predictions for the Groot and Calamari contract predicaments the Ravens and Cardinals find themselves in? Things already weren't looking good for them BEFORE the Browns gave up 3 firsts, 1 third, and 1 fourth just for the right to give Watson a 5 year/$230M fully guaranteed deal. Groot will sign the first billion dollar contract. But it will only have $70 million in guarantees. Calimari will be traded or cut when the cardinals miss the playoffs. Groot acting as his own agent during contract negotiations should be a reality TV show. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 4:53:14 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ALSO... This is the place the Panthers are with Sam Darnold, they exercised his 5th year as soon as they traded for him, now, even if they got another quarterback, is there anyone in the league who would take on Darnold's $18.9M guaranteed contract? Baker and Darnold... Both could end up being paid $19M guaranteed to sit on the bench this year. Good for them.
Well no shit Sherlock. They already have a $19M guaranteed boat anchor quarterback. Why would they want two at the same time? 
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Posted: 3/21/2022 4:56:17 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Right after writing that I find this:
Well no shit Sherlock. They already have a $19M guaranteed boat anchor quarterback. Why would they want two at the same time? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ALSO... This is the place the Panthers are with Sam Darnold, they exercised his 5th year as soon as they traded for him, now, even if they got another quarterback, is there anyone in the league who would take on Darnold's $18.9M guaranteed contract? Baker and Darnold... Both could end up being paid $19M guaranteed to sit on the bench this year. Good for them.
Well no shit Sherlock. They already have a $19M guaranteed boat anchor quarterback. Why would they want two at the same time? Maybe they can get Josh Rosen too. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 4:57:08 PM EDT
[#18]
Is Cam Newton signed anywhere?
There might be a little football left in him. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 5:02:03 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe they can get Josh Rosen too. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: ALSO... This is the place the Panthers are with Sam Darnold, they exercised his 5th year as soon as they traded for him, now, even if they got another quarterback, is there anyone in the league who would take on Darnold's $18.9M guaranteed contract? Baker and Darnold... Both could end up being paid $19M guaranteed to sit on the bench this year. Good for them.
Well no shit Sherlock. They already have a $19M guaranteed boat anchor quarterback. Why would they want two at the same time? Maybe they can get Josh Rosen too. He did promise to make every team that passed on him regret it. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 5:02:46 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd hold a clipboard for 2.5... I'll be the waterboy for 2.5 Million. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 5:03:03 PM EDT
[#21]
Andy Dalton is still a free agent.
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Posted: 3/21/2022 5:04:33 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is Cam Newton signed anywhere?
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Posted: 3/21/2022 5:04:34 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is Cam Newton signed anywhere? There might be a little football left in him. He's a FA. He's about to turn 33 and last season he had a 64.4 Passer Rating and a 25.5 QBR. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 5:04:54 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He's a FA. He's about to turn 33 and last season he had a 64.4 Passer Rating and a 25.5 QBR. Big oof |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 5:11:58 PM EDT
[#25]
Baker can ride the pine for $19 Million heal up completely from his surgery, get some help with his QB skills and enter FA having rested a full year. Not a bad thing.
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Posted: 3/21/2022 5:13:53 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Baker can ride the pine for $19 Million heal up completely from his surgery, get some help with his QB skills and enter FA having rested a full year. Not a bad thing. That's quite an optimistic outlook. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 5:18:30 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's quite an optimistic outlook.
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Posted: 3/21/2022 5:22:01 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Every look is optimistic when it involves $19M guaranteed, whether you do something or not. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's quite an optimistic outlook. Haha, true, but I was referring to the "get some help with his QB skills and enter FA having rested a full year" part. A year from now I don't imagine teams are going to be knocking each other over to sign Baker. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 5:24:28 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Groot acting as his own agent during contract negotiations should be a reality TV show.  The Waterboy - "And what are we having for dessert?" |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 5:31:16 PM EDT
[#30]
This is a weird announcement:
 "Hey, everybody. We're talking to this dude. Just thought you should know." |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 5:43:40 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is a one year rental on a 27 year old diva QB with a losing record and a career Passer Rating of 87.8 even worth a fully guaranteed $18.9M? Never mind having to give up draft capital for the privilege. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Seattle and Atlanta are not in on Baker. Leaves Panthers and I find it unlikely they make that move after the Sam Darnold move last year. Puts Cleveland in an interesting spot. Baker is on his 5th year option. It's $18.9M fully guaranteed. Cleveland has to pay him that full amount if they can't unload him. They have zero leverage in trying to deal him.
Is a one year rental on a 27 year old diva QB with a losing record and a career Passer Rating of 87.8 even worth a fully guaranteed $18.9M? Never mind having to give up draft capital for the privilege. Look at Mayfield's career: 2018 - Rookie under Gregg Williams - 93.7 RTG 51.2 QBR 2019 - The Freddie Kitchens Year - 78.8 RTG 54.4 QBR 2020 - First year with Stefanski - 95.9 RTG 65.5 QBR 2021- Shoulder Injury year - 83.1 RTG 35.1 QBR So far, Mayfield has had only one season where he had a competent coach and was healthy. I think a 60+ QBR season should be repeatable for him. When the big boys are getting $40M+ APY, $19M for a guy like Mayfield is a low risk and worthwhile investment if nothing better is available to you. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 5:50:10 PM EDT
[#32]
Good number for a backup.
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Posted: 3/21/2022 5:56:48 PM EDT
[#33]
The Brisket will be playing for Watson as Mayfield collects his money.
Edit: Between the 3, around $70M in cash and $34M against the cap. Double Edit: Watson will account for $55M against the cap every other year (23-26). |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 6:02:27 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Brisket will be playing for Watson as Mayfield collects his money.
Edit: Between the 3, around $70M in cash and $34M against the cap. Double Edit: Watson will account for $55M against the cap every other year (23-26). The Browns currently have the following: - A QB with $4.5M guaranteed in 2022. - A QB with $18M guaranteed in 2022. - A QB they just signed to a 5 year/$230M fully guaranteed contract. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 6:14:14 PM EDT
[#35]
 Strange... |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 6:24:37 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Brisket will be playing for Watson as Mayfield collects his money.
Edit: Between the 3, around $70M in cash and $34M against the cap. Double Edit: Watson will account for $55M against the cap every other year (23-26). Everyone looked at Brissett as a huge WTF pick by Belichik, but the dude has at least proven to be a versatile backup-he's on what his forth team? |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 6:44:19 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Everyone looked at Brissett as a huge WTF pick by Belichik, but the dude has at least proven to be a versatile backup-he's on what his forth team? |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 6:45:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/21/2022 6:48:43 PM EDT
[#39]
Beasley's replacement. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 6:57:26 PM EDT
[#40]
Brady give us another ring plz!
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Posted: 3/21/2022 6:57:57 PM EDT
[#41]
Brady give us another ring plz!
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Posted: 3/21/2022 6:59:43 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
2 year/$18.75M deal for a QB that hasn't started in ANY game since 2019? Seems a bit on the expensive side. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 7:06:21 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Brady give us another ring plz! 
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Posted: 3/21/2022 7:08:04 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 2 year/$18.75M deal for a QB that hasn't started in ANY game since 2019? Seems a bit on the expensive side. I mean it’s not that bad considering Darnold is making that much this year alone. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 7:09:02 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Just play Rosen. Oh wait. He ain't black. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 9:04:24 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 2 year/$18.75M deal for a QB that hasn't started in ANY game since 2019? Seems a bit on the expensive side. And, that's never played a full season in his career. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 9:17:59 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And, that's never played a full season in his career. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 2 year/$18.75M deal for a QB that hasn't started in ANY game since 2019? Seems a bit on the expensive side. And, that's never played a full season in his career. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 9:34:51 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He got beat out by Tannehill... He's a backup He's also been injured, a lot. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 9:41:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's also been injured, a lot. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He got beat out by Tannehill... He's a backup He's also been injured, a lot. |
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Posted: 3/21/2022 10:59:09 PM EDT
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