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Posted: 2/20/2023 4:13:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2023 4:13:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At this point it's almost on them if they take him as a client... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I wonder if he’ll come back to form with a full training camp. Football form or sexually abusing message therapists form? The chances of him doing it again, all things considered, are almost a statistical certainty. Now whether or not the public finds out about it, that's less certain. At this point it's almost on them if they take him as a client... Some of Watson's previous victims were unemployed single mothers (during a lockdown no less) desperate for money. I suspect he knew even if they heard the rumors about him they'd be less likely to refuse the appointment and more likely to "just go with it" when the assault started. Reminds me of that scene in American Psycho where the hooker knows she shouldn't go with him, but he waves that big clip of money at her and she reluctantly agrees. |
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Posted: 2/20/2023 4:16:26 PM EDT
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"Organization believes that Carr could 'lead them to a championship.'" Mahomes couldn't lead that organization to a championship. |
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Posted: 2/20/2023 4:19:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A man with 10 figure net worth taking a job in an amateur league at age 75. Well that's a "he should've been out of the game years ago, but he can't stay home cause he hates his wife" situation if I ever saw one.  Wade Phillips is a billionaire? |
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Posted: 2/20/2023 4:37:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wade Phillips is a billionaire? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A man with 10 figure net worth taking a job in an amateur league at age 75. Well that's a "he should've been out of the game years ago, but he can't stay home cause he hates his wife" situation if I ever saw one. Wade Phillips is a billionaire? Oops. I went down a rabbit hole of celebrity net worth pages when I looked it up and got that messed up. Wade isn't even 9 futures. 
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Posted: 2/20/2023 5:09:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2023 5:29:30 PM EDT
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B.J. "Red" McCombs, a prominent San Antonio businessman, philanthropist and the namesake of the McCombs School of Business at the University of Texas, former co-owner of the Denver Nuggets, former owner of the San Antonio Spurs and the Minnesota Vikings, died Sunday. He was 95.
McCombs rose from working as a car salesman at a Ford dealership in Corpus Christi in 1950 to a billionaire who has owned more than 400 businesses in several industries, including real estate, energy, automotive and several sports enterprises. In 2022, Forbes listed him among the richest men in the world, with an $1.7 billion estimated net worth. McCombs was also a co-founder of Clear Channel Communications, which is now known as iHeartMedia. McCombs gave $50 million to UT's business school in 1999. The UT System Board of Regents renamed the school in McCombs' honor. McCombs and his wife, Charline, donated $30 million to the UT M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in Houston (the largest donation for cancer research they have ever received). McCombs attended Southwestern University in the 1940s on a football scholarship, where he was a lineman and receiver. He later joined the Army from 1946 to 1947 before enrolling in UT's law and business school, although he did not graduate. |
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Posted: 2/20/2023 5:35:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2023 5:58:18 PM EDT
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At least Jones is younger & has a shot at improving |
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Posted: 2/20/2023 7:30:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/20/2023 8:31:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I hope he bankrupts the franchise. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/5ddc336bfd9db244c913783d-460.gif /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/nod-3.gif I'm going to walk that back. Do I hate the Browns? I do. But the football gods have been ruthless in crushing the hopes of Browns fans for so long, and so thoroughly. If any one of either their carousel of head coaches or quarterbacks panned out...but no, instead they handicap themselves for years at a time. Maybe Watson regains form and by some Christmas miracle, they compete again...I actually hope they do. |
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Posted: 2/20/2023 8:49:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All things considered (including draft capital lost and the damage to your franchise’s image) that will likely go down as THE worst deal in NFL history and hindsight wasn’t even required to know it was a horrible idea from the get-go. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This season Deshaun Watson will count for $55M against the Brown's cap. It is the largest single season cap hit for any player in NFL history. He will also count for $55M against the cap in 2024, 2025 and 2026. All things considered (including draft capital lost and the damage to your franchise’s image) that will likely go down as THE worst deal in NFL history and hindsight wasn’t even required to know it was a horrible idea from the get-go. One of the angles that doesn't get talked about enough is that Watson's deal was fully guaranteed. My understanding is that, when any guarantees in a contract kick in, the owner must write a check to an escrow account in that player's name. With some contracts, those guarantees kick in at certain milestones along the way (like the Mahomes contract), but for Watson, it was all at signing. When that deal was signed, the Haslams had to write a full $230M check to Watson's escrow account. That sets a terrible precedent and really screws most of the other owners in the NFL, and that's before you consider the particulars of the player involved. Some team owners simply do not have the liquidity/cash flow to play that game. |
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Posted: 2/20/2023 9:18:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They can still tag him. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: No chance. They might tag him once and they'll draft a replacement if he sticks on a number that high. They can still tag him. That's a really interesting game. It is my belief that, in general, you should not tag a QB. You either have a franchise QB or you don't. If you have a franchise QB, you should get that contract extension written up and signed as soon as that player becomes eligible. If you wait on that extension and/or play games with the tag, the results are almost universally terrible for the franchise. The most likely scenario is probably paying an extra 20%+ like the Cowboys did with Dak. Or you can lose your player to FA and end up with nothing to show for it like the WTF did with Cousins. There is the potential for a tag & trade, but I can't think of an example of that at the QB position. Now that the Giants are here, they have to make a decision with Jones. The tag value for QBs this season is $32.4M. I think paying Jones $32.4M for one year can make some sense, but then what? Either Jones improves or becomes more expensive or he doesn't and the situation is probably worse this time next year. The other variable for the Giants here is Saquon Barkley. He's a FA this year, and the Giants can only franchise tag one player. Barkley seems like a good candidate for a tag and trade... IF they can get something ironed out with Jones. Otherwise, they might have to let Barkley go to the FA free market and hope they get a good comp pick for him. I like the idea of the Giants offering Jones a 3 year deal in the neighborhood of $35M or so. I think that's fair for the position, the production, and the potential, and it gives Jones a shot at a bigger payday in 2-3 years when he's 28-29 years old. Jones can ask for whatever he wants, but I'd expect him to have a soft market. A tag and trade gets spicy with Jones because they'd have to replace him with someone. Also, if they trade him, the entire league would know NYG is gunning for a QB, and they're all the way down at #26, so they'd need to move way up. Oh, and every team in the top 9 probably needs to be looking at QBs. Unless one of those teams wants Jones, I'm not seeing it. |
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Posted: 2/20/2023 11:53:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/21/2023 12:28:54 AM EDT
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https://media.tenor.com/4Nh-kwo0mSQAAAAM/batman-thinking.gif Oh, come on. Chris Collinsworth said Groot was the Michael Jordan of the NFL. Surely he's worth the biggest contract in NFL history, right? |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 11:35:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, come on. Chris Collinsworth said Groot was the Michael Jordan of the NFL. Surely he's worth the biggest contract in NFL history, right? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
https://media.tenor.com/4Nh-kwo0mSQAAAAM/batman-thinking.gif Oh, come on. Chris Collinsworth said Groot was the Michael Jordan of the NFL. Surely he's worth the biggest contract in NFL history, right? The prevailing report last year was that LJax wanted a fully guaranteed contract after butthole massage got one. We'll see if anyone is willing to entertain that desire. Either way, I'm ready to be entertained. |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 11:49:30 AM EDT
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https://media.tenor.com/4Nh-kwo0mSQAAAAM/batman-thinking.gif I mean they've got a PRO BOWL level backup.
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Posted: 2/21/2023 11:58:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The prevailing report last year was that LJax wanted a fully guaranteed contract after butthole massage got one. We'll see if anyone is willing to entertain that desire. Either way, I'm ready to be entertained. We laughed a Daniel Jones wanting $45m/season but he's got the same amount of playoff wins and twice as many 300 yard passing games as LJax. He also didn't miss multiple games each of the last two season due to injury. |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 12:22:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We laughed a Daniel Jones wanting $45m/season but he's got the same amount of playoff wins and twice as many 300 yard passing games as LJax. He also didn't miss multiple games each of the last two season due to injury. Yep. LJax is overrated. He'll sink any team that gives him what he's asking and the talking heads will call the Ravens racist for not caving. |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 1:45:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. LJax is overrated. He'll sink any team that gives him what he's asking and the talking heads will call the Ravens racist for not caving. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We laughed a Daniel Jones wanting $45m/season but he's got the same amount of playoff wins and twice as many 300 yard passing games as LJax. He also didn't miss multiple games each of the last two season due to injury. Yep. LJax is overrated. He'll sink any team that gives him what he's asking and the talking heads will call the Ravens racist for not caving. Talent wise he's fine. He might not be able to carry an offense like Mahomes, Rodgers, or Brady but his legs keep a defense honest & limited. In that way he can help elevate the play of others. Money wise....is that worth the same as elite passers? Probably not, but it's a better argument for that pay than Jones, IMO. |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 2:26:33 PM EDT
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2022 thread now has more pages than 2021. Let's see what 2023 will bring!
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Posted: 2/21/2023 2:37:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm going to walk that back. Do I hate the Browns? I do. But the football gods have been ruthless in crushing the hopes of Browns fans for so long, and so thoroughly. If any one of either their carousel of head coaches or quarterbacks panned out...but no, instead they handicap themselves for years at a time. Maybe Watson regains form and by some Christmas miracle, they compete again...I actually hope they do. They got their nba championship. That's enough. |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 2:39:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Talent wise he's fine. He might not be able to carry an offense like Mahomes, Rodgers, or Brady but his legs keep a defense honest & limited. In that way he can help elevate the play of others. Money wise....is that worth the same as elite passers? Probably not, but it's a better argument for that pay than Jones, IMO. His rushing has also had him sidelined two seasons in a row. Newton's decline accelerated around 900 rush attempts which at Ljax's current pace will be in 1.5 seasons. QBs that rely on their athleticism typically have short careers. Short enough that anything over a two year deal would be a no for me. His career passing stats look almost identical to Colin Kaepernick's.... |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 2:43:32 PM EDT
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This century how many Super Bowls were won by teams that had a QB that was in the top 5 highest paid QBs for that season?
The only one I can think of off the top of my head might be the Rams with Stafford and with that one the Rams won 3 playoff games by 3 points with the refs basically handing them a Super Bowl win. |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 2:53:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This century how many Super Bowls were won by teams that had a QB that was in the top 5 highest paid QBs for that season? The only one I can think of off the top of my head might be the Rams with Stafford and with that one the Rams won 3 playoff games by 3 points with the refs basically handing them a Super Bowl win. Mahomes was second this year. Rams had the highest cap hit for QBs in the league (eating Goffs +Stafford) in 2021. Brady was tied for 5th in 2020. So, three in a row based on cap hits. |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 2:58:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mahomes was second this year. Rams had the highest cap hit for QBs in the league (eating Goffs +Stafford) in 2021. Brady was tied for 5th in 2020. So, three in a row. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This century how many Super Bowls were won by teams that had a QB that was in the top 5 highest paid QBs for that season? The only one I can think of off the top of my head might be the Rams with Stafford and with that one the Rams won 3 playoff games by 3 points with the refs basically handing them a Super Bowl win. Mahomes was second this year. Rams had the highest cap hit for QBs in the league (eating Goffs +Stafford) in 2021. Brady was tied for 5th in 2020. So, three in a row. Mahomes actually didn't get paid much at all in 2022. I'm pretty sure it was under $10M which obviously wouldn't be top 5. I don't remember the exact amount but I remember seeing it when I was shocked to see his net worth was only $40M and looked into his career earnings. |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 3:04:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mahomes actually didn't get paid much at all in 2022. I'm pretty sure it was under $10M which obviously wouldn't be top 5. I don't remember the exact amount but I remember seeing it when I was shocked to see his net worth was only $40M and looked into his career earnings. $32 million isnt "much at all"? $79.4 million to date in NFL salary |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 3:15:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $32 million isnt "much at all"? $79.4 million to date in NFL salary Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Mahomes actually didn't get paid much at all in 2022. I'm pretty sure it was under $10M which obviously wouldn't be top 5. I don't remember the exact amount but I remember seeing it when I was shocked to see his net worth was only $40M and looked into his career earnings. $32 million isnt "much at all"? $79.4 million to date in NFL salary You're right. My bad. I was looking at the wrong thing. So we have the GOAT, a unicorn, and a team that won 3 playoff games by 3 points with the refs handing them a Super Bowl win. Anyone else? |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 3:18:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: His rushing has also had him sidelined two seasons in a row. Newton's decline accelerated around 900 rush attempts which at Ljax's current pace will be in 1.5 seasons. QBs that rely on their athleticism typically have short careers. Short enough that anything over a two year deal would be a no for me. His career passing stats look almost identical to Colin Kaepernick's.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Talent wise he's fine. He might not be able to carry an offense like Mahomes, Rodgers, or Brady but his legs keep a defense honest & limited. In that way he can help elevate the play of others. Money wise....is that worth the same as elite passers? Probably not, but it's a better argument for that pay than Jones, IMO. His rushing has also had him sidelined two seasons in a row. Newton's decline accelerated around 900 rush attempts which at Ljax's current pace will be in 1.5 seasons. QBs that rely on their athleticism typically have short careers. Short enough that anything over a two year deal would be a no for me. His career passing stats look almost identical to Colin Kaepernick's.... LJax's old timey passer rating for this season was 91.1. That's in the same neighborhood as Herbert (93.2), D Jones (92.5), Cousins (92.5), Dak (91.1), Rodgers (91.1), and Brady (90.7). Now rank those guys by supporting cast. I think Jackson is still average as a passer. Not great, not terrible. But when his WR1 is Demarcus Robinson, he's pretty much screwed. Nobody is going anywhere with that. Put him in a system with a legit deep threat, a couple big YAC guys, and a good RB, and he'd be very dangerous. I don't see him working the pocket and making 3+ reads reliably, but he shouldn't be in a situation where his TE and his own legs are the only good options on any given down. |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 3:23:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Talent wise he's fine. He might not be able to carry an offense like Mahomes, Rodgers, or Brady but his legs keep a defense honest & limited. In that way he can help elevate the play of others. Money wise....is that worth the same as elite passers? Probably not, but it's a better argument for that pay than Jones, IMO. He is a smaller, faster, slightly more talented Cam Newton. IMO, much like a RB, you don't give a QB like that a huge second contract. |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 3:39:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LJax's old timey passer rating for this season was 91.1. That's in the same neighborhood as Herbert (93.2), D Jones (92.5), Cousins (92.5), Dak (91.1), Rodgers (91.1), and Brady (90.7). Now rank those guys by supporting cast. I think Jackson is still average as a passer. Not great, not terrible. But when his WR1 is Demarcus Robinson, he's pretty much screwed. Nobody is going anywhere with that. Put him in a system with a legit deep threat, a couple big YAC guys, and a good RB, and he'd be very dangerous. I don't see him working the pocket and making 3+ reads reliably, but he shouldn't be in a situation where his TE and his own legs are the only good options on any given down. His passer rating was 17th in the league - average. How are you supposed to build that cast when you pay him a shit ton of money? Since Ljax was selected the Ravens have drafted 8 WRs - either they can't draft for shit or he can't elevate them. Also, no FA WRs have went to Baltimore since he became the starter - either they don't want to play with Ljax or the Raven aren't offering them competitive deals. Who is to blame for his supporting cast? |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 3:40:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: His rushing has also had him sidelined two seasons in a row. Newton's decline accelerated around 900 rush attempts which at Ljax's current pace will be in 1.5 seasons. QBs that rely on their athleticism typically have short careers. Short enough that anything over a two year deal would be a no for me. His career passing stats look almost identical to Colin Kaepernick's.... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Talent wise he's fine. He might not be able to carry an offense like Mahomes, Rodgers, or Brady but his legs keep a defense honest & limited. In that way he can help elevate the play of others. Money wise....is that worth the same as elite passers? Probably not, but it's a better argument for that pay than Jones, IMO. His rushing has also had him sidelined two seasons in a row. Newton's decline accelerated around 900 rush attempts which at Ljax's current pace will be in 1.5 seasons. QBs that rely on their athleticism typically have short careers. Short enough that anything over a two year deal would be a no for me. His career passing stats look almost identical to Colin Kaepernick's.... Newton was a "power rusher", he was basically a DE (size wise) that could throw. Guys that size (big Ben is another example) can't stay competitive athletically for all that long. That's why Allen gets the reactions he is getting. Groot is a RB/WR size wise, and that's better for his continued elite athleticism. What he has to avoid is basically RG3ing himself, which you can tell he is doing a good job of avoiding the worst hits. You can bet his contract situation is playing a huge part in his on field absence this year, so I wouldn't hold that against him. |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 3:46:48 PM EDT
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Something else to consider with Groot is that he is acting as his own agent and the kid is a moron who has a very inflated opinion of how much guaranteed money he should be getting (in part due to how much Watson got). Its tough to negotiate with someone like that.
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Posted: 2/21/2023 4:14:04 PM EDT
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Via The Leap: Rodgers still wandering in the darkness (literally)
As of the time of writing, Aaron Rodgers has not resurfaced following his planned "darkness retreat." Until he does, the Packers won't know what their future holds. To the best of anyone's knowledge, Aaron Rodgers has not yet emerged from his multi-day "darkness retreat." Even if he has, no word has surfaced as to whether he plans to continue his NFL career. That means that until further notice, the Green Bay Packers also find themselves wandering in the darkness in a certain sense.  |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 4:18:17 PM EDT
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Good for him. Local boy. |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 4:19:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Via The Leap: Rodgers still wandering in the darkness (literally) As of the time of writing, Aaron Rodgers has not resurfaced following his planned "darkness retreat." Until he does, the Packers won't know what their future holds. To the best of anyone's knowledge, Aaron Rodgers has not yet emerged from his multi-day "darkness retreat." Even if he has, no word has surfaced as to whether he plans to continue his NFL career. That means that until further notice, the Green Bay Packers also find themselves wandering in the darkness in a certain sense. At the risk of triggering another Rebel meltdown, I think its time the Packers move on from Rodgers. Especially if the reports are accurate that they are very confident in Love. Sure, if they traded him now they wouldn't be able to get anything even close to what they could've gotten a year ago, but maybe they could get one 1st for him. I would think at bare minimum they could get a 2nd and a 3rd. |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 4:29:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Via The Leap: Rodgers still wandering in the darkness (literally) As of the time of writing, Aaron Rodgers has not resurfaced following his planned "darkness retreat." Until he does, the Packers won't know what their future holds. To the best of anyone's knowledge, Aaron Rodgers has not yet emerged from his multi-day "darkness retreat." Even if he has, no word has surfaced as to whether he plans to continue his NFL career. That means that until further notice, the Green Bay Packers also find themselves wandering in the darkness in a certain sense. I don’t really understand why this is such a media thing. I bet half the NFL smokes pot once a year or more. Ultimately this darkness retreat is an expensive attempt to alter his conscious state. He’s single and rich, and he apparently reads a lot of books. He wants to experience it. Why is this a nearly month long media story? |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 4:35:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At the risk of triggering another Rebel meltdown, I think its time the Packers move on from Rodgers. Especially if the reports are accurate that they are very confident in Love. Sure, if they traded him now they wouldn't be able to get anything even close to what they could've gotten a year ago, but maybe they could get one 1st for him. I would think at bare minimum they could get a 2nd and a 3rd. His market will be small. Teams with cap space that may be a QB away : Raiders, Giants, Patriots, Seahawks. I don't see a team shedding talent and draft capital for only a handful of years at most for Rodgers. |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 4:37:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: His passer rating was 17th in the league - average. How are you supposed to build that cast when you pay him a shit ton of money? Since Ljax was selected the Ravens have drafted 8 WRs - either they can't draft for shit or he can't elevate them. Also, no FA WRs have went to Baltimore since he became the starter - either they don't want to play with Ljax or the Raven aren't offering them competitive deals. Who is to blame for his supporting cast? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: LJax's old timey passer rating for this season was 91.1. That's in the same neighborhood as Herbert (93.2), D Jones (92.5), Cousins (92.5), Dak (91.1), Rodgers (91.1), and Brady (90.7). Now rank those guys by supporting cast. I think Jackson is still average as a passer. Not great, not terrible. But when his WR1 is Demarcus Robinson, he's pretty much screwed. Nobody is going anywhere with that. Put him in a system with a legit deep threat, a couple big YAC guys, and a good RB, and he'd be very dangerous. I don't see him working the pocket and making 3+ reads reliably, but he shouldn't be in a situation where his TE and his own legs are the only good options on any given down. His passer rating was 17th in the league - average. How are you supposed to build that cast when you pay him a shit ton of money? Since Ljax was selected the Ravens have drafted 8 WRs - either they can't draft for shit or he can't elevate them. Also, no FA WRs have went to Baltimore since he became the starter - either they don't want to play with Ljax or the Raven aren't offering them competitive deals. Who is to blame for his supporting cast? The front office? You know... the people responsible for roster construction? |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 4:40:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t really understand why this is such a media thing. I bet half the NFL smokes pot once a year or more. Ultimately this darkness retreat is an expensive attempt to alter his conscious state. He’s single and rich, and he apparently reads a lot of books. He wants to experience it. Why is this a nearly month long media story? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Via The Leap: Rodgers still wandering in the darkness (literally) As of the time of writing, Aaron Rodgers has not resurfaced following his planned "darkness retreat." Until he does, the Packers won't know what their future holds. To the best of anyone's knowledge, Aaron Rodgers has not yet emerged from his multi-day "darkness retreat." Even if he has, no word has surfaced as to whether he plans to continue his NFL career. That means that until further notice, the Green Bay Packers also find themselves wandering in the darkness in a certain sense. I don’t really understand why this is such a media thing. I bet half the NFL smokes pot once a year or more. Ultimately this darkness retreat is an expensive attempt to alter his conscious state. He’s single and rich, and he apparently reads a lot of books. He wants to experience it. Why is this a nearly month long media story? Sensory deprivation is a no shit torture technique. It's the kind of think the CIA, the KGB, and Mossad does to psychologically break people. Subjecting yourself to it voluntarily and paying for the privilege is bananas. I'm not one to really get into recreational chemicals, but I'm going to go out on a little bit of a limb and assume that maybe it's a tiny bit different than smoking a blunt or doing a few shots. |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 4:42:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t really understand why this is such a media thing. I bet half the NFL smokes pot once a year or more. Ultimately this darkness retreat is an expensive attempt to alter his conscious state. He’s single and rich, and he apparently reads a lot of books. He wants to experience it. Why is this a nearly month long media story? Because it's weird as shit bro.
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Posted: 2/21/2023 4:43:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sensory deprivation is a no shit torture technique. It's the kind of think the CIA, the KGB, and Mossad does to psychologically break people. Subjecting yourself to it voluntarily and paying for the privilege is bananas. I'm not one to really get into recreational chemicals, but I'm going to go out on a little bit of a limb and assume that maybe it's a tiny bit different than smoking a blunt or doing a few shots. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Via The Leap: Rodgers still wandering in the darkness (literally) As of the time of writing, Aaron Rodgers has not resurfaced following his planned "darkness retreat." Until he does, the Packers won't know what their future holds. To the best of anyone's knowledge, Aaron Rodgers has not yet emerged from his multi-day "darkness retreat." Even if he has, no word has surfaced as to whether he plans to continue his NFL career. That means that until further notice, the Green Bay Packers also find themselves wandering in the darkness in a certain sense. I don’t really understand why this is such a media thing. I bet half the NFL smokes pot once a year or more. Ultimately this darkness retreat is an expensive attempt to alter his conscious state. He’s single and rich, and he apparently reads a lot of books. He wants to experience it. Why is this a nearly month long media story? Sensory deprivation is a no shit torture technique. It's the kind of think the CIA, the KGB, and Mossad does to psychologically break people. Subjecting yourself to it voluntarily and paying for the privilege is bananas. I'm not one to really get into recreational chemicals, but I'm going to go out on a little bit of a limb and assume that maybe it's a tiny bit different than smoking a blunt or doing a few shots. I’m gonna assume someone paying for a darkness retreat, and planning for it months in advance is slightly different than state sponsored torture. I certainly might be wrong. |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 4:47:06 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m gonna assume someone paying for a darkness retreat, and planning for it months in advance is slightly different than state sponsored torture. I certainly might be wrong. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Via The Leap: Rodgers still wandering in the darkness (literally) As of the time of writing, Aaron Rodgers has not resurfaced following his planned "darkness retreat." Until he does, the Packers won't know what their future holds. To the best of anyone's knowledge, Aaron Rodgers has not yet emerged from his multi-day "darkness retreat." Even if he has, no word has surfaced as to whether he plans to continue his NFL career. That means that until further notice, the Green Bay Packers also find themselves wandering in the darkness in a certain sense. I don’t really understand why this is such a media thing. I bet half the NFL smokes pot once a year or more. Ultimately this darkness retreat is an expensive attempt to alter his conscious state. He’s single and rich, and he apparently reads a lot of books. He wants to experience it. Why is this a nearly month long media story? Sensory deprivation is a no shit torture technique. It's the kind of think the CIA, the KGB, and Mossad does to psychologically break people. Subjecting yourself to it voluntarily and paying for the privilege is bananas. I'm not one to really get into recreational chemicals, but I'm going to go out on a little bit of a limb and assume that maybe it's a tiny bit different than smoking a blunt or doing a few shots. I’m gonna assume someone paying for a darkness retreat, and planning for it months in advance is slightly different than state sponsored torture. I certainly might be wrong. What will you say here in a few months when Rodgers is getting waterboarded or jumper-cabled to reset his chakras or some shit?
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Posted: 2/21/2023 4:52:02 PM EDT
[#44]
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https://media.tenor.com/4Nh-kwo0mSQAAAAM/batman-thinking.gif Dan Snyder enters the chat. He'll try and get Lamar. I mean why not. |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 4:53:52 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is this a nearly month long media story? This off-season just happens to be him saying he is going to decide whether he wants to retire, play for the Packers or play for someone else while sitting in a prison hole. |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 4:57:19 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What will you say here in a few months when Rodgers is getting waterboarded or jumper-cabled to reset his chakras or some shit? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Via The Leap: Rodgers still wandering in the darkness (literally) As of the time of writing, Aaron Rodgers has not resurfaced following his planned "darkness retreat." Until he does, the Packers won't know what their future holds. To the best of anyone's knowledge, Aaron Rodgers has not yet emerged from his multi-day "darkness retreat." Even if he has, no word has surfaced as to whether he plans to continue his NFL career. That means that until further notice, the Green Bay Packers also find themselves wandering in the darkness in a certain sense. I don’t really understand why this is such a media thing. I bet half the NFL smokes pot once a year or more. Ultimately this darkness retreat is an expensive attempt to alter his conscious state. He’s single and rich, and he apparently reads a lot of books. He wants to experience it. Why is this a nearly month long media story? Sensory deprivation is a no shit torture technique. It's the kind of think the CIA, the KGB, and Mossad does to psychologically break people. Subjecting yourself to it voluntarily and paying for the privilege is bananas. I'm not one to really get into recreational chemicals, but I'm going to go out on a little bit of a limb and assume that maybe it's a tiny bit different than smoking a blunt or doing a few shots. I’m gonna assume someone paying for a darkness retreat, and planning for it months in advance is slightly different than state sponsored torture. I certainly might be wrong. What will you say here in a few months when Rodgers is getting waterboarded or jumper-cabled to reset his chakras or some shit? I’ll think of it as the circumstances suggest. |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 5:16:32 PM EDT
[#47]
 Some images: Click To View Spoiler  1150 and 1220 Harbor Bay Parkway Alameda CA |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 5:34:28 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Via The Leap: Rodgers still wandering in the darkness (literally) As of the time of writing, Aaron Rodgers has not resurfaced following his planned "darkness retreat." Until he does, the Packers won't know what their future holds. To the best of anyone's knowledge, Aaron Rodgers has not yet emerged from his multi-day "darkness retreat." Even if he has, no word has surfaced as to whether he plans to continue his NFL career. That means that until further notice, the Green Bay Packers also find themselves wandering in the darkness in a certain sense. When he emerges and he sees his shadow does that mean one more year or Rodgers with GB? |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 5:40:10 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're right. My bad. I was looking at the wrong thing. So we have the GOAT, a unicorn, and a team that won 3 playoff games by 3 points with the refs handing them a Super Bowl win. Anyone else? Joe Montana? |
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Posted: 2/21/2023 6:00:08 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sensory deprivation is a no shit torture technique. It's the kind of think the CIA, the KGB, and Mossad does to psychologically break people. Subjecting yourself to it voluntarily and paying for the privilege is bananas. I'm not one to really get into recreational chemicals, but I'm going to go out on a little bit of a limb and assume that maybe it's a tiny bit different than smoking a blunt or doing a few shots. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Via The Leap: Rodgers still wandering in the darkness (literally) As of the time of writing, Aaron Rodgers has not resurfaced following his planned "darkness retreat." Until he does, the Packers won't know what their future holds. To the best of anyone's knowledge, Aaron Rodgers has not yet emerged from his multi-day "darkness retreat." Even if he has, no word has surfaced as to whether he plans to continue his NFL career. That means that until further notice, the Green Bay Packers also find themselves wandering in the darkness in a certain sense. I don’t really understand why this is such a media thing. I bet half the NFL smokes pot once a year or more. Ultimately this darkness retreat is an expensive attempt to alter his conscious state. He’s single and rich, and he apparently reads a lot of books. He wants to experience it. Why is this a nearly month long media story? Sensory deprivation is a no shit torture technique. It's the kind of think the CIA, the KGB, and Mossad does to psychologically break people. Subjecting yourself to it voluntarily and paying for the privilege is bananas. I'm not one to really get into recreational chemicals, but I'm going to go out on a little bit of a limb and assume that maybe it's a tiny bit different than smoking a blunt or doing a few shots. It's not like a ultra-marathon or multi-day hunting trip in the mountains are physically fun, but people have a blast doing them & preparing for them. A darkness retreat is weird for sure, but I don't really see it any differently. He knows when he's done, he has everything he needs, and I imagine he's fairly comfortable unlike some prisoner stuffed in a dark hole. |
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